[00:10:25] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> The navigational section is through the page MediaWiki:Sidebar [00:10:41] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> The logo/icon is through Manage Additional Settings Styling [00:11:21] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Depending on the particular skin your wiki is using, you'll need to update either Logo ($wgLogo) or Icon ($wgIcon) [00:38:29] <⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274> The IRC<-Discord relay is going to go offline for a few minutes while I attempt move it to the Miraheze servers. [00:41:02] <⁦Meteor⁩#9401> curious, what skins do you guys use on Miraheze? [00:41:09] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> Vector 2022 [00:41:32] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> All my wikis are cosmos, but if you're talking about Meta, that's stock Vector 2022 as agent said [00:42:09] <⁦Meteor⁩#9401> nah i mean like skins u prefer [00:42:15] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> Vector 2022 [00:42:19] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> :P [00:42:32] <⁦Meteor⁩#9401> i prefer legacy vector [00:42:48] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> I dislike v22 [00:42:51] <⁦Meteor⁩#9401> i used that all these years, and tbh, dont feel like switching to anything else [00:43:27] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> I saw someone doing some very neat stuff with Tweeki that caught my interest. [00:43:45] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Once I've got my current project to a mature state, I might mess with that for my next project. [00:43:51] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> timeless, medik, and hassomecolors are the ones I've had most positive impressions of [00:44:03] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> tweeki if tweaked properly is ridiculously powerful [00:44:09] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> i prefer cosmos [00:44:13] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> https://genshinimpact.miraheze.org [00:44:14] [url] Genshin Impact Wiki | genshinimpact.miraheze.org [00:44:17] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> but its heavily customizde [00:44:27] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> I have unpopularly lower opinions of cosmos and vector personally, but I appreciate them when well customized [00:44:51] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦Meteor⁩#9401> vector….2010 i think [00:44:55] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> the older one [00:45:05] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Yeah, I seem to recall @artillect was messing with it, did some very cool native stuff using templates and dynamic sorting for MtG cards. [00:45:09] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> the default on miraheze is vector 2022 [00:45:11] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> even the older vector has left me scarred but I think that's mainly overexposure to reception wiki styling [00:45:18] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦raidarr⁩#6550> same tbh, i don’t hate it but the simplistic feel of 2010 is preferred for me [00:45:25] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> reception wiki styling is horrible [00:45:29] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> especially for accessibility [00:45:31] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Oh yeah, here's the discussion: [00:45:36] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> yeah, that's where most of my iffiness towards vector comes from [00:45:46] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> I like very specific implementations of monobook [00:45:51] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦Meteor⁩#9401> YES [00:46:09] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦raidarr⁩#6550> monobook isn’t terrible to be honest [00:46:19] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> as collei said though reception wiki styling throws me [00:46:23] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> there's an off-miraheze monobook setup that I think is just perfect [00:46:35] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> which one? [00:46:41] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> I forget what avid is using but whatever it is they're using it well [00:46:49] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550, replying to ⁦BWM⁩#6978> twcenter wiki [00:46:57] <⁦Meteor⁩#9401> I was eying AVID for a while [00:47:03] <⁦Meteor⁩#9401> I think it's tweeki [00:47:06] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> I may be biased since I played a small role in making it work [00:47:12] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> @Agent would you be able to clear the Meta deletion category if you have a second? [00:47:22] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> or just my twinkle JS page [00:47:37] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦raidarr⁩#6550> will look [00:47:40] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Avid's default is Medik [00:47:51] <⁦mariojack3⁩#2889, replying to ⁦Meteor⁩#9401> It's the far superior Vector [00:47:52] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Interesting, I'd yet to see a compelling implementation of that... [00:48:21] Relay is offline now [01:28:46] Relay is back online [01:41:15] <⁦Milly⁩#7253> Thank you kindly. [01:41:45] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> np [02:13:19] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Confirmed that this wiki was created after the December outage but one of those during the period when rights were not being assigned correctly on creation. Also confirmed that the authenticated user was the original requester, per https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/28340 [02:13:20] [url] Wiki requests queue - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [02:13:52] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> @Milly , if you don't hear back from a steward in a day or two, please file an update on the [[Stewards' Noticeboard]] on meta [02:13:52] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Stewards%27_Noticeboard [02:13:53] <⁦Wiki-Bot⁩#2998> [url] Stewards'Noticeboard - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [02:14:35] <⁦! 2PC_Official⁩#1765> !wiki [02:14:37] <⁦Wiki-Bot⁩#2998> [url] 100% free, ad-free wikis, request yours today! - Miraheze | meta.miraheze.org [02:14:44] <⁦! 2PC_Official⁩#1765> !w [02:14:48] <⁦! 2PC_Official⁩#1765> !wiki [02:14:50] <⁦Wiki-Bot⁩#2998> [url] 100% free, ad-free wikis, request yours today! - Miraheze | meta.miraheze.org [02:15:27] <⁦! 2PC_Official⁩#1765> [[test]] [02:15:27] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/test [02:15:28] <⁦Wiki-Bot⁩#2998> [url] Creating Test - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [02:15:38] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> If you want to play with the bots, please do that in the #bots channel [02:15:44] <⁦! 2PC_Official⁩#1765, replying to ⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Yes [02:15:48] <⁦! 2PC_Official⁩#1765> Sorry [02:15:53] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> No worries. 🙂 [02:16:21] <⁦! 2PC_Official⁩#1765, replying to ⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Thank you! and, please see #Wiki reset [02:18:05] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Unfortunately outside my purview to assist, you may need to file a Phabricator task to get a reset done, that'd be the next route I'd recommend if you don't here back in a day or so. [02:20:46] <⁦! 2PC_Official⁩#1765, replying to ⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Ok [02:20:54] <⁦! 2PC_Official⁩#1765> Thank you very much ! [02:21:59] <⁦Milly⁩#7253, replying to ⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Thank you once again. [02:46:11] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550, replying to ⁦Meteor⁩#9401> I wish, truth is it still varies [03:38:01] <⁦Agent⁩#3928, replying to ⁦mariojack3⁩#2889> I missed your request, sorry about that. :DoneMH: Done [03:40:56] <⁦mariojack3⁩#2889, replying to ⁦Agent⁩#3928> Awesome, thank you so much [03:42:58] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009, replying to ⁦Milly⁩#7253> @Agent , do you have bandwidth to address the above as well? [03:43:10] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> See https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1083210879786557560 for details [03:43:49] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> One of the dec-jan requests where createwiki was busted and not completing permission assignments [03:46:14] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> looking [04:00:43] <⁦Agent⁩#3928, replying to ⁦Milly⁩#7253> Fixed [04:14:51] <⁦Milly⁩#7253> Thank you very much [04:22:09] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> np [04:32:04] <⁦Pincle⁩#0312> Could anyone finish my request on RfGR,please..... [04:32:44] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> what request [04:32:48] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> and whats your username [04:35:44] <⁦Pincle⁩#0312> bit.ly/3ZzZJGz [04:37:17] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Hello buehl [04:38:16] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Your request just became eligible to close today, a Steward will get to it when they are able. [04:38:37] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> And an early congrats! :Partyheze: [04:39:12] <⁦Pincle⁩#0312, replying to ⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> OK. Thanks,NotAracham! [04:39:52] <⁦Agent⁩#3928, replying to ⁦Pincle⁩#0312> Please <⁦Agent⁩#3928> But welcome! [04:40:18] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> I asked @Reception123 to do so yesterday but it hadn't been 7 days yet [04:40:25] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> I can't close it because I voted so sorry [05:00:57] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> @Agent do you by any chance know where the wikidiscover config for Miraheze is? [05:01:12] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> i can't find the miraheze-specific repo/file for config [05:09:46] <⁦Agent⁩#3928, replying to ⁦BWM⁩#6978> What specifically are you looking for? [05:09:57] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> I don't think WikiDiscover is really configurable [05:10:00] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦Agent⁩#3928> need to fix a quick error [05:10:07] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦Agent⁩#3928> go to Special:WikiDiscover on Meta [05:10:11] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> you'll know what I mean [05:10:56] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> [05:10:58] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> ? [05:11:38] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦Agent⁩#3928> oh wait never mind it appears to have been fixed? [05:11:55] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> the icon next to "Discover thousands of wikis across Miraheze" was a redlink [05:11:59] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> and now it's not [05:12:07] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> ah [05:12:16] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> Well that wouldn't be fixed via a config change though [05:12:23] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> Things like that are handled by system messages [05:12:25] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> [url] MediaWiki:Wikidiscover-summary - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [05:12:29] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> this system message handles that [05:13:10] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> ohhhhhhh [05:13:11] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> ooops [05:14:06] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> my bad [05:44:59] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> hah @Agent we're replying on two separate threads for the same issue [05:45:36] <⁦duvet⁩#2706> Sorry to bother both of you 😅 [05:45:50] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦duvet⁩#2706> haha no worries at all, that's why we're here [05:46:07] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> try and upload the favicon to your own wiki, then get the URL for the image and add it [05:46:19] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> if you need any help (as i said on Meta), feel free to ask [05:47:16] <⁦duvet⁩#2706> Thank you. [05:47:57] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> of course! [05:49:17] <⁦duvet⁩#2706> btw, I got the "The primary database server is running in read-only mode." message again. is there a maintenance undergoing? [05:49:30] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> that means a database server crashed and restarted [05:49:36] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> @Site Reliability Engineers ^ [05:49:44] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> I'm guessing db121 again [05:49:46] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦duvet⁩#2706> oh fun it appears that db121 OOMd [05:49:50] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> again [05:50:31] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> not a big problem and can be solved....just slightly annoying [05:53:11] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦Agent⁩#3928> do you know when cloud10 will be decommissioned? [05:53:12] <⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274> looking [05:53:24] <⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274, replying to ⁦BWM⁩#6978> Hopefully soon. [05:53:43] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274> extra space on cloud13 will be added right [05:54:08] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> also to hopefully prevent Phabricator from breaking again [05:55:11] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> oof the RAM space on db121 is not goo [05:55:40] <⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274> Should be fixed. [05:55:59] <⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274, replying to ⁦BWM⁩#6978> Yes, and cloud14 we hope IIRC. [05:56:39] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274> is it a funding issue? [05:56:51] <⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274> no, a disk issue. [05:57:52] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> ah [05:58:23] <⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274> [1/3] cloud14 because of the outage, we lost 3 disks, but I think they were now sent on for replacement or something. [05:58:23] <⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274> [2/3] [05:58:23] <⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274> [3/3] Cloud13 because for some reason it isn't registering the extra ones, so requires physical intervention. [05:58:50] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274> no timetable i'm assuming? [05:58:57] <⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274> no [05:59:02] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> damn [05:59:05] <⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274> Hopefully soon. [06:00:29] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> well, here's to hoping [06:05:30] Hello Guest81! If you have any questions, feel free to ask and someone should answer soon. [06:05:41] Hello [06:05:47] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> hello [06:05:49] Welcome [06:06:29] New here. [06:07:18] I want to contact with someone, an admin that can help me with my problem. [06:08:44] How can I do that? [06:10:25] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> an admin in what sense [06:10:32] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> Agent is a Steward [06:10:44] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> kind of like a global admin you could say [06:11:13] Yes. [06:11:24] Please. [06:11:41] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> what's your question? [06:13:12] It's about a mirahaze site that is obsolote and was rather made as some kind of "sh*tpost" from the beginning. [06:13:32] <⁦! 2PC_Official⁩#1765> . [06:13:46] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> ....which one? [06:15:31] https://chadsofa.miraheze.org/wiki/Home It was originated from 4chan and yeah as you can say it's a massive sh*tpost wherever you see it. It was brought up recently in some threads in 4chan. [06:15:32] [url] Chads of /a/ | chadsofa.miraheze.org [06:17:08] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> what's your question regarding it? [06:18:10] The person who is in charge of it seems to have a weird fascination towards the grey character called Jiren, to the point the article which itself is a copypasta from our threads was redone as some joke (by me since this person is always spamming in our threads) and the user banned me permanently. [06:19:32] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> well hilariously i was just logged out of my Miraheze account and can't log back in right now because of 2FA (my phone is updating) [06:19:34] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> so i'm stuck [06:19:56] Damn. [06:20:04] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> but @Agent, @Reception123, thoughts? [06:20:40] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> What resolution do you seek? [06:20:58] As I specified, we obviously don't need something like this when we have the official Dragon Ball wiki elsewhere for every character, we don't want to shove our visions from 4chan into these characters. [06:22:02] But this person is rather determined to keep it despite having no one to help in there. And it's rather presumed he possibly banned anyone else who tried to edit in there. I can say it's been there for years before it was migrated. [06:23:01] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦Agent⁩#3928> this, though [06:23:09] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> what would you like to happen [06:23:17] I must say I feel like an idiot for falling for his trap though. [06:24:45] Well, I'd suggest if it gets deleted it would be the best solution. Getting me unbanned don't think will do the job since that guy will ban me again if I try to edit again. [06:25:32] Mostly because no one gives a care about it anyway and it's just a waste of space interpreting established characters in the worst way possible in what is a sh*tpost that came from 4chan. [06:28:23] I feel like an idiot in the sense of editing the article of his favourite character to mock him, but that was it, everything from it was straight from the threads before he reverted them too so I admit my mistake too for playing his game but now I have paid the price. [06:28:24] https://chadsofa.miraheze.org/wiki/Jiren [06:28:25] [url] Jiren - Chads of /a/ | chadsofa.miraheze.org [06:29:32] Still it's no excuse to ban forever when he's done the same thing to the other articles, even if it wasn't him who did it, why it's this one the only one that shouldn't be treated as a joke? [06:34:18] If you need more information I'm here to provide. [06:40:23] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> if the wiki doesn't break Miraheze rules such content policy, code of conduct, copyrights, UK laws in general, it's most likely will stay up [06:41:01] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> if you'll find and bring up some severe violations then stewards might look into it [06:41:57] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> an idea is to force a "non canon/non official" banner on the wiki but idk what kind of procedure on Miraheze can do that [06:42:29] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> to require putting or force [06:44:09] It has tons of racism content [06:44:33] I don't know if that one breaks a rule. [06:46:16] Either way, I'd leave it like that but only if I get unbanned but I'm afraid if I try to edit there again I will simply just get banned even if it is to just help uploading or submitting stuff that doesn't relate to the one that bothers the guy. [06:46:23] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> So... To cut through the extras... there's a wiki based on a 4chan goof involving DBZ-style fighters, and you got banned for messing with the sole administrator of the wiki's personal pet character? [06:47:36] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> racism is ofc unacceptable [06:47:45] Well... [06:47:46] https://chadsofa.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Jirenbrony&diff=prev&oldid=2387 [06:47:47] [url] Jirenbrony: Difference between revisions - Chads of /a/ | chadsofa.miraheze.org [06:48:30] There are examples of it in here as well [06:48:59] In the home site [06:49:35] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> well, what could I expect from 4chan [06:50:42] I know. I blame myself from what I did too. [06:51:15] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> [1/3] I assume you have account Miraheze? [06:51:15] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> [2/3] the report procedure is to make a post on [[SN]] w/ example links and descriptions of violations [06:51:15] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SN [06:51:16] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> [3/3] there's similar report in process already you can base yours on [06:51:16] <⁦Wiki-Bot⁩#2998> [url] Stewards' noticeboard - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [06:53:59] <⁦Cabra⁩#8309> [1/2] The Argentinean (white) [06:53:59] <⁦Cabra⁩#8309> [2/2] Seems like a very normal and not racially-charged wiki to me 🤣 [06:54:21] Lol [06:55:03] Anyway, I just noticed my ban expires next day (apparently) If I edit again without harming his baby article and still get banned I will contact here again, just in case. [06:55:55] Still, I feel better thanks to the help and I will have that url saved for anything. [07:47:31] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> this is hard to follow [07:56:25] BWM: how so? [08:00:25] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> Could the Terms of Use page be umprotected? At least temporarily [08:01:37] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> why? [08:08:23] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> Would want to update something there [11:01:04] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702, replying to ⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> @CosmicAlpha [11:01:59] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648, replying to ⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> What change do you want to make? [11:02:18] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> It will not be unprotected [11:02:28] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702, replying to ⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> If I say so, you might as well do them yourselves.... [11:02:49] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> The board will do it [11:03:05] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702, replying to ⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> I meant at least temporarily [11:03:11] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> I meant at least temporarily [11:03:23] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> It’s not getting unprotected for some random person to edit [11:03:27] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> It’s a legal document [11:03:41] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> You need to state what you want changing [11:04:14] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> As I said, if I say it, who will stop anyone from stealing the idea from me and editing it selnst? [11:04:31] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> Like I said, if I say it, who's stopping anyone from stealing the idea from me and editing it themselves? [11:04:51] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> Then send it to board@miraheze.org or DM me and I will pass it on internally [11:04:55] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> We will credit you [11:05:06] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702, replying to ⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> Du bist kein board member? [11:05:16] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> You are not a board member? [11:05:30] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> No, I’m just in more private channels [11:05:37] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> ? [11:06:09] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> It means any random person couldn’t steal it [11:06:21] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> Because I can share it in places that any random person can’t access [11:07:18] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> What do these places have to do with the site? [11:07:24] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> Rhinos was system administrator [11:07:31] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> Yeah, was [11:07:39] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> They are for important Miraheze people [11:08:06] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> You have 3 options [11:08:30] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> Either share your idea here, share it in DM with someone who can pass it on or is on the board, email the board [11:08:43] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> what kind of fix you want to make at least, man [11:47:12] <⁦Silvestre Bin Sorceress⁩#7334> Hi dudes [11:49:48] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> yo [12:47:27] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702, replying to ⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> Or the 4th option, I work my way up to a position that can? [12:47:39] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702, replying to ⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> Or the 4th option, I work my way up to a position that can [12:48:50] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> @Justman10000 are you going to be like some of the tech employees who joined companies just to fix bugs? [13:07:54] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> No, but if I were one of those people, I could do that right now. [13:08:11] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> why are you so secretive about edit? [13:08:35] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702, replying to ⁦Legroom⁩#2748> Like I said, if I say it, who's stopping anyone from stealing the idea from me and editing it themselves? [13:08:35] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> you'll still have to have board discuss it [13:09:02] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> in terms of use? [13:09:05] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> like [13:09:21] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> all sites have them? [13:09:32] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> ? [13:09:42] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> When I correct mistakes? I think not [13:09:44] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> @Justman10000 it’s a legal document [13:09:47] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> It has to be checked [13:10:00] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> You need to have it reviewed first [13:10:12] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> Correct errors, not direct changes to the texts! Is a difference... [13:10:45] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> what kind of errors? orographic? [13:11:06] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> Formatting [13:11:30] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> formatting fix worth of stealing? [13:12:33] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> [1/3] ok, how about you post your cfix in ToU's talk page? [13:12:34] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> [2/3] - everyone can review your fix [13:12:34] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> [3/3] - it's essentially a proof that you came up w/ it [13:18:32] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> and making edit suggestions on talk pages of protected pages is pretty normal procedure [13:18:36] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702, replying to ⁦Legroom⁩#2748> You never know with some people! [13:18:49] <⁦Legroom⁩#2748> dude [13:42:29] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550, replying to ⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> never going to happen with this attitude I can tell you that now and forever [13:44:04] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> now I can tell you if you did share it with rhinos it would almost certainly then turn around and be shared in a private channel which would probably beat the ass of the individual who edited the tos without attribution [13:44:32] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> but to be quite honest nobody cares where a line in the tos individually came from anyway, if it's a good idea it's just part of it and I can see nothing you would suggest that would entitle you to be on a unique pedestal [13:44:43] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> if it is that unique then it probably is a little too 'special' for the TOS in the first place [13:45:59] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> [1/2] But let me put it another way why you would never get in a position to edit it in yourself: the tos is for the platform and the platform exists on account of the community, nobody who can edit the TOS would ever dare add shit randomly because they think it's a good idea with the level of entitlement being shown here because whatever that position is would likely be stripped from the community beca [13:45:59] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> [2/2] use you couldn't be arsed to get feedback for it [13:47:11] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> nothing gets modified without consulting peers at the very least and nothing substantial is put in without community consultation; even if it was the idea of someone who can just edit right now, they would go through that process because that is how it's done [13:47:41] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> and if it is a formatting error holy hell man, get over yourself [13:48:08] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> either suggest it in one of the prescribed places or just forget about it, there's no reason for all the nonsense [13:48:37] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> it's certainly not going to be unprotected because some person wants to make changes without accountability [14:04:37] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> ^ I went on a bit of a rant and I apologize, didn't mean to be too harsh about it, but I think the principles stated until the third to the last line stand [15:33:47] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦raidarr⁩#6550> reading in the aftermath of the whole conversation, it was appropriate [15:34:57] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> anywho, back to this being a support channel [15:35:24] <⁦Tali64⁩#9984, replying to ⁦raidarr⁩#6550> Raidarr's Fury [16:17:03] <⁦gifted9⁩#9594, replying to ⁦gifted9⁩#9594> i'm trying to create a custom tab/option under the "more" dropdown, "report," that leads to special:report/{{revisionid}}. i followed this admittedly ancient mediawiki support thread to no avail https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:Ptixd7447tagjfa5 - is there something dead-obvious i'm missing? happy to create a support thread if this requires extensive troubleshooting. pls ping [16:17:03] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:revisionid [16:17:03] <⁦Wiki-Bot⁩#2998> [url] [RESOLVED] Add Custom Tab or Tabs to Vector Skin on Project:Support desk | www.mediawiki.org [16:17:04] [url] Creating Revisionid - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [16:17:26] <⁦gifted9⁩#9594> i did not mean to invoke the bot sorry [16:19:36] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦gifted9⁩#9594> all good [16:19:49] <⁦BWM⁩#6978, replying to ⁦gifted9⁩#9594> i believe this now has to be done via config change? [16:19:53] <⁦BWM⁩#6978> i'm not positive though [16:25:27] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> the bot does what it wants, no worries [16:26:38] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550, replying to ⁦gifted9⁩#9594> what I might say is that since this is an involved topic requiring either specialized knowledge or a bit of research in good implementation, you may be best off making a support thread because this will likely be buried quickly [16:27:59] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009, replying to ⁦gifted9⁩#9594> For future reference, you can also use a 🗑️ emoji to make the over-eager bot delete its messages if you were the one that woke it up. [16:28:10] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> oh nice, news to me too [16:28:38] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Sorry, should have clarified, it only works on the discord-side ones [16:29:33] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Let me make sure it's still working as intended after our recent OAuth troubles... [[w:bread]] [16:29:33] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/bread [16:29:33] <⁦Wiki-Bot⁩#2998> [wikipedia] bread | "Bread is a staple food prepared from a dough of flour (usually wheat) and water, usually by baking. Throughout recorded history and around the world, it has been an important part of many cultures' diet. It is one of the oldest human-made foods, having been of significance since the dawn of agriculture, and plays an essential role in both religious rituals and secular culture.Bread may be leavened by naturally […]" [16:29:48] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Yep, all good [16:32:26] <⁦gifted9⁩#9594> ty all, i'll create a support thread. sitting on the perch of my bay window, pining for open-source problemreports like a victorian woman waiting for her husband to return from war [16:34:48] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550, replying to ⁦gifted9⁩#9594> when you do, please note what part fails ie, getting anything to appear in the skin interface or the magic word not working, as I might attempt to reproduce the steps when a support thread exists [16:48:03] <⁦kimora⁩#2222> PURRRRRRR [16:50:48] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> nice [16:51:08] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> for the glory of oblasia [17:08:55] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> @raidarr [17:08:57] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> So, to put it briefly? Even if I were in a position that had the permission to edit these pages, this would not entitle me to make any changes without consultation? And if I did, would I get into trouble? [17:09:06] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284, replying to ⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> yes [17:09:16] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> because the ToS is not something you can randomly edit [17:09:24] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> Hmm [17:09:27] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> stop making a complete fool of yourself [17:11:15] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> Can this conversation please find its way to the depths of history and end here? [17:11:47] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> yeah, lets avoid that second bit [17:11:59] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> but yes, the tos should not undergo arbitrary edit [17:12:18] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> if it would cause trouble is a matter of knowing what exactly it was/about [17:14:45] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> anyway, miraheze meeting for the 15th or na [17:15:03] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> mainly because it's a date I could actually make it [18:31:09] <⁦Justman10000⁩#0702> Miraheze meeting? [18:32:06] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> We host semi-regular meetings open to all miraheze users to discuss the current state of the platform, upcoming events, and general user inquiries [18:32:12] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550> [[Miraheze Meetings]] [18:32:12] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meetings [18:32:12] <⁦Wiki-Bot⁩#2998> [url] MirahezeMeetings - Miraheze Meta | meta.miraheze.org [18:48:44] <⁦Jakeukalane⁩#2767> hello! I don't remember whats steps I have to do if I want a wiki to be using a a wiki image repository [19:11:52] <⁦Gummiel⁩#0001> [1/2] I feel like meeting makes it sound a lot more strict than it usually is tbh 😛 More or less like a bit of clarification or extra comment from the core team about recent events, if any, and then just qeustions for the community, and plenty of time to still joke around a bit during it. Not what I usually envision of a "meeting" (But also have no idea what a better word would even be so :ablobshrug: [19:11:53] <⁦Gummiel⁩#0001> [2/2] ) [19:13:06] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Miraheze: The Gathering [19:25:38] <⁦kimora⁩#2222, replying to ⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Is it on the server or? [19:26:08] <⁦kimora⁩#2222> nvm,i just checked the page [19:26:35] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Yep, a channel here on discord/IRC [19:43:11] <⁦Agent⁩#3928, replying to ⁦Gummiel⁩#0001> heh yeah, idk what to name it [19:43:50] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> It originally was like a meeting with an agenda and everything but now it sort of morphed into a "just chatting about recent stuff and also feedback if anyone has some" [19:43:59] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> Miraheze Chats maybe? [19:45:23] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> They are effectively informal office hours [19:47:17] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> Miraheze Conferences 😆 [19:47:25] <⁦Agent⁩#3928> or Miraheze Assemblies [19:47:50] <⁦Fiddlestix⁩#9401> Miraheze Teams [19:48:49] <⁦RhinosF1⁩#3648> Assembly reminds me of school [19:58:45] <⁦Orduin⁩#1491> [1/8] Assembly makes brain go: [19:58:45] <⁦Orduin⁩#1491> [2/8] assembly [19:58:46] <⁦Orduin⁩#1491> [3/8] POP EAX [19:58:46] <⁦Orduin⁩#1491> [4/8] POP EAX [19:58:46] <⁦Orduin⁩#1491> [5/8] RETN [19:58:46] <⁦Orduin⁩#1491> [6/8] [19:58:47] <⁦Orduin⁩#1491> [7/8] or JMP ESP [19:58:47] <⁦Orduin⁩#1491> [8/8] pls help [20:01:08] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> if you are reverse engineering and can only get like C code or assembly [20:01:12] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> just ask chatgpt what the code does [20:01:28] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> i was reverse engineering the genshin impact launcher and i would just ask chatgpt what the code does when i didnt know [20:03:42] <⁦Orduin⁩#1491> POP POP RETN is the assembly for closing out a function, very handy when injecting bytecode during a buffer overflow attack [20:04:44] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> All this time, that character from Community whose catchphrase was "Pop Pop" was just trying to end the program. 🤣 [20:06:47] <⁦Fiddlestix⁩#9401, replying to ⁦Orduin⁩#1491> it reminded me of just the mere existence of that language [20:08:20] <⁦Orduin⁩#1491> I do not fear those who think in terms of POP EAX; POP EAX; RETN, but those who think 58 58 C3 [20:09:50] <⁦kimora⁩#2222> POP EAX RETN [20:11:44] <⁦kimora⁩#2222> these names 😭 [20:27:06] <⁦Han⁩#3688> Miraheze pub ^^ [20:43:18] <⁦Fiddlestix⁩#9401, replying to ⁦kimora⁩#2222> best names ever 💯 [20:43:26] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> :ColleiLove2: [20:43:29] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> a nice person gave me nitro [20:43:41] <⁦Fiddlestix⁩#9401, replying to ⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> thats great! [20:43:52] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> i meant to post it in #offtpb [20:43:57] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> "well your help with support must be rewarded" [20:44:20] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> (if nale is confused its because i edited a message which is why it wont make sense on the irc send) [20:44:25] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> end [20:46:49] <⁦Fiddlestix⁩#9401> nale is gonna wonder who i am again because i keep changing my username :p [20:48:21] <⁦Colleiflower⁩#9284> lmaoo [21:24:51] <⁦raidarr⁩#6550, replying to ⁦Agent⁩#3928> mirameets [22:02:41] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009, replying to ⁦florigon⁩#5751> Received confirmation from one of the devwiki bureacrats, way to proceed is: Code goes in MediaWiki: <⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274> We can give you interface-admin if it is required also. [22:03:55] <⁦florigon⁩#5751, replying to ⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> Cool, thanks for looking into that, ill add it in probably tomorrow [22:04:02] <⁦NotAracham⁩#0009> I suppose you could also just drop it into the mainspace article using the

	 <⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274> devwiki IA is just an extra protection against distructive scripts, but can be given fairly easily.
[22:04:46] 	 <⁦florigon⁩#5751, replying to ⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274> Oh ok, i appreciate it
[22:05:28] 	 <⁦CosmicAlpha⁩#3274> No problem just ping me if you need it.
[22:05:37] 	 <⁦florigon⁩#5751> Will do
[23:50:34] 	 <⁦Molto Ritardando⁩#7334> How do I change the tab icon on the browser?
[23:51:53] 	 <⁦Fiddlestix⁩#9401> Special:ManageWiki/settings#mw-section-styling
[23:52:39] 	 <⁦Fiddlestix⁩#9401> Favicon btw
[23:53:15] 	 <⁦Fiddlestix⁩#9401> [1/4] To change the logo and favicon of your wiki, you need to go to Special:ManageWiki/settings and look for $wgLogo under the Styling section. If you want to change the favicon or icon shown for Apple mobile devices, you need to look for $wgFavicon or $wgAppleTouchIcon depending on your needs in the same section. You need to add a specific URL to the textbox below the option. This URL will always be i
[23:53:15] 	 <⁦Fiddlestix⁩#9401> [2/6] n the form of https://static.miraheze.org/yourwiki/XX/XX/Filename.X, where X is a stand-in character for something that will be different depending on the file. To get this URL, follow these simple steps:
[23:53:15] 	 <⁦Fiddlestix⁩#9401> [3/6] Upload the logo, if you have not already. Once the upload is completed, you'll be redirected to your image.
[23:53:16] 	 <⁦Fiddlestix⁩#9401> [4/6] Right-click on the image and select an option to "Copy Image Location" or drag and drop
[23:53:16] 	 <⁦Fiddlestix⁩#9401> [3/8]  the image into a new tab on your browser.
[23:53:16] 	 <⁦Fiddlestix⁩#9401> [4/8] Copy the URL of the current page (do not use http unless it's the only protocol supported. Always use https where possible.)
[23:53:17] 	 <⁦Fiddlestix⁩#9401> [5/8] Pictogram voting info.svg Note: The recommended logo size for most skins is 135px by 135px.
[23:53:17] 	 <⁦Fiddlestix⁩#9401> [6/8] 
[23:53:17] 	 <⁦Fiddlestix⁩#9401> [7/8] Once you are done, make sure to clear the cache in your browser in order to see the updated image. Please be aware that the change may not 
[23:53:18] 	 <⁦Fiddlestix⁩#9401> [4/4] be immediate, and can take several minutes to go through. Please also be aware that Apple mobile devices do not support all image file formats.
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