[00:30:47] When? [00:36:12] We don’t have an app [01:13:15] I know [01:13:17] 😦 [01:41:46] Does Miraheze have a plan for the event that funding doesn't match expenditure? Looking at the finance page, if it cost £1500 for hosting, then MH isn't going to have much left after the next payment? [01:50:09] that is what the fundraiser is for [01:50:36] hence why I asekd "in the event funding doesn't match" [01:51:17] hmm, not sure [01:51:27] question for @Board Members [01:54:42] We'll still have a few months to figure that out. Our options could include more aggressive fundraising, and we at least have a few ideas to pursue to reduce costs. [02:03:38] anyone can check Meta Administrator's Noticeboard in their free time? [02:04:28] especially IA [02:09:12] em [02:11:08] IA directing Interwiki Administrator... [02:17:24] I don't see any posts on the meta board that could be actionable by GIWAs. Do you have a link? [02:21:18] No. That's my wrong. I think the IA is means Interface Administrator. [02:21:38] lol [02:21:46] Yep, no worries. 🤣 [02:21:55] but it's Interwiki admins. lol [02:22:37] First and foremost, want to make sure you get corrected with the right group to actually help. [02:23:06] yes [02:23:16] Sound like you're getting towards the right direction now [02:23:44] hehe [02:24:58] all in all, do we now have an interface admin online? [02:33:32] for Meta? [02:33:34] not currently [02:34:13] one of our IAs is semi-active, the other is on a wikibreak (but returning in a few hours I believe), and the other has been the subject of countless complaints [02:34:30] anywho that's not relevant but Reception123 should be able to take a look when he's online [02:38:34] OK Thanks [02:38:54] no problem at all, happy to assist [02:43:11] and BrandonWM, for Translator Wiki, what do you think? I am preparing it as a replacement with a set of pages on Meta per the discussion. [02:43:37] i think it's definitely an interesting idea [02:43:50] could work given the right conditions [02:44:27] ok it's great if it can works. [02:44:45] maybe it need a rfc? [02:45:27] tbd [02:45:52] ah [02:47:13] all in all thanks [02:47:24] happy to assist 🙂 [02:48:34] you too [02:48:40] have a good day [03:38:16] hm i remember we have an encyclopedia? [04:48:43] test? [04:57:53] test? [05:00:29] oh wow [05:25:48] pong [05:26:46] who glitched [05:27:11] ping [05:27:58] relaybot probably [05:28:59] Still a better track record than the animatronics operated by Charles Entertainment Cheese, Esq. [05:29:18] is that still even around? 😂 [05:29:22] thought those had gone extinct [05:29:49] Can confirm, still in operation and still as uncanny as ever [05:30:20] sigh [05:40:10] ping [05:40:12] pong [06:04:24] ping [06:04:30] pong [06:04:51] 👍 should be fine now [06:58:02] Any particular @ or # i should use? Two suspicious signups this evening, esp [07:08:26] CVT channel is great fo rthis [07:46:20] <Призрачный Вор Скотт#2957> [1/3] Hmm...I have a good question about MediaWiki. [07:46:21] <Призрачный Вор Скотт#2957> [2/3] Does it make sense to install it on a PC? I just want to do it, but there is a suspicion that there is no point at all. [07:46:21] <Призрачный Вор Скотт#2957> [3/3] Yes, the question is a little different from the subject of the server, but still. [07:47:53] <Призрачный Вор Скотт#2957> My friends told me that this way you can make your wiki right on your computer, and almost all of it will work even without an Internet connection. [07:55:57] It is possible yes for a personal project [07:56:09] But it's not particularly easy to install and maintain your own instance [08:02:31] <Призрачный Вор Скотт#2957> what difficulties will I have? [08:31:19] Призрачный Вор Скотт: maintaining the server [08:31:46] updating and all that, like Reception said, and also keeping up with the news [08:32:50] also if by PC you mean your personal computer, that's okay but please don't make it accessible over the Internet [08:36:41] <Призрачный Вор Скотт#2957> why should I not give access to the Internet? [08:37:53] It's not "don't give it access to the Internet" is don't make that MediaWiki installation available over the Internet [08:39:28] Mostly just in case, servers are usually a bit more hardened compared to regular desktops due to the fact that they are constantly under attack [08:46:14] <Призрачный Вор Скотт#2957> That is, if I install MW, should I turn off the Internet? [08:48:20] [1/2] hi, is it possible to export the wiki for a selfhosting out from miraheze? [08:48:21] [2/2] another question - should i be able to log into phabricator and mediawiki with my miraheze login informations, or should i create a new name and pass? [08:49:27] M. roY: Special:DataDump should give you all you need to selfhost, you may need to ask in Phabricator if you also want the images tho [08:50:05] you can login to phab using the button with the MediaWiki logo to login [08:50:05] could you explain me what is DataDump used for exactly? [08:50:17] basically to make backups of the wiki [08:50:22] it's at Special:DataDump [08:50:40] ok thanks [08:51:18] <Призрачный Вор Скотт#2957> Oh, and one more thing. Can I install two completely different versions of MW? [08:51:48] Призрачный Вор Скотт: that's an advanced question not trivially answered [08:56:24] <Призрачный Вор Скотт#2957> Okay( [09:04:28] <Призрачный Вор Скотт#2957> Then where should I look for the answer? [11:03:45] I'd say try one instance first, if you could handle it then it'll worth to look for that variant further [11:07:36] gmorining [12:53:32] <Призрачный Вор Скотт#2957, replying to Legroom#2748> That is, it is technically possible. Thanks. That's what I needed. [14:05:17] I have a question for the SREs: the jatrainwiki (jatrain.miraheze.org) has been removed due to inactivity, is it still possible to get it back now? [16:13:30] Is family tree.js finally working? [17:09:27] huh [17:09:34] just learned about this Telepedia now [17:10:40] it looks like MH but if it was specifically for entertainment wikis [17:10:41] lol [17:12:56] it uses ManageWiki [17:13:00] I think [17:13:09] Original Authority made it [17:14:18] miraheze tech, fandom style focus [17:34:34] We're intentionally open-source, it happens. [17:51:24] Would be pretty weird to be unintentionally open-source tbh 😛 [17:52:34] 👋 [17:52:45] True! [17:52:59] Proprietary code being leaked might count as unintentional open source [17:53:48] more source-available [17:53:52] Not really, as it wouldn't have the licence that allows to legally use it, like actual open-source code do [20:16:05] <ΛlphaOmega#8769> hi, can someone remind me where the webhook is for discord to notify on changes? [20:28:04] I think the User CosmicAlpha#3274 is the one who looks for the Webhook from Wiki to Discord [20:28:18] What happened with user CosmicAlpha? [20:28:49] They're taking some personal time. [20:29:11] We'll take a look into the notification webhook as time allows [20:31:09] And CA is going to return after that personal time? [20:32:17] only he can say [20:32:27] Let's give them their privacy for now, though. It's been a rough few months. [20:32:28] and at this point who really knows [20:44:51] in regards to Telepedia? [20:45:41] Nah, was meant to be a joke [20:52:02] Special:ManageWiki/settings under the Notifications tab, look for "Discord Additional Incoming Webhook URLs" [21:00:12] <ΛlphaOmega#8769> thanks! [22:25:11] Why does Special:Import keep returning 504 error for me? [22:26:59] Am I the only person running into this now [22:41:15] Post the trace and @Site Reliability Engineers can locate the error. [22:45:15] 504 is not a traceable error. It just means the server spent too long processing the request and decided to abort. Only real solution we have is [[Special:RequestImportDump]] [22:45:15] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestImportDump [22:45:15]

[22:46:48] Seems to be a manual process? [22:47:00] Would be too much trouble to go through for everyone [22:47:08] it's just a wikipedia template [23:07:14] hi hi [23:08:28] i had a quick question, since i couldn't find this anywhere. my partner and i just setup a wiki with Miraheze for project collaboration, but he's concerned that we won't own the rights to anything we put on here [23:08:55] you won't [23:08:57] i don't think [23:09:32] so is everything we put on Miraheze the property of Miraheze? [23:10:04] It's the terms set on your wiki. [23:10:05] i'm not seeing this addressed in any of the documentations [23:10:24] You can choose different licenses, I'm pretty sure. [23:10:36] ahhh [23:21:26] nah, it just might take a bit for someone with the appropriate access to get it [23:21:59] thanks sTRM, your tip led me to this https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:Changing_your_wiki_license [23:22:14] poi'fect! [23:41:57] Is the Miraheze company a registered charity? [23:43:17] https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12323854 [23:44:13] That doesn't really answer my question. That just tells me that it's incorporated [23:45:46] We're a not-for-profit (different from a non-profit). If we wanted to get recognized as a charity in the UK, we'd need to meet some rather strict limitations on the content we host. IIRC, something like all content has to be written by qualified educators. [23:46:00] Yeh ^ [23:46:01] https://www.gov.uk/limited-company-formation [23:46:49] Does Miraheze pay taxes on its net revenue? Are donations to Miraheze deductible on taxes (for those who live in the correct country)? [23:48:27] @Owen you’d know more ^ [23:51:06] On that note I am somewhat curious why Miraheze was incorporated in England given that previously it reported a USD balance. [23:51:37] I guess new volunteers took it over? [23:52:47] The main volunteer who used to handle our finances didn't have the time necessary to oversee incorporation/all the legal bits in the US so another volunteer took the lead and incorporated Miraheze in the UK [23:54:30] Yes, we have to pay taxes and no, donations are unfortunately not tax deductible as we are not a charity (the only types of organizations which can claim tax deductible donations in the UK are charities). As explained before, if we did become a charity, we'd have to cut back on the types of wikis we allow