[00:19:18] [1/5] Hello [00:19:18] [2/5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Internet [00:19:19] [3/5] Portal:Internet [00:19:19] [4/5] Are there skins or snippets that improve the look of portals and templates? [00:19:19] [5/5] Also, what are some ways to improve them if those don't exist yet? [00:19:22] (repost from mw) [00:37:19] It added up automatically I think, I just checked there is no anymore [01:14:11] If anyone was planning on doing more favicon work, I ran across this going through some old stuff https://github.com/audreyfeldroy/favicon-cheat-sheet [01:14:44] Presumably somewhat out-of-date, but a decent reference. [01:53:24] does anyone mind sharing a page of theirs that utilises smw on their wiki? im discussing with the admins about enabling smw and they would like to have a look for reference [01:55:22] if theres other reference pages that might be good we would love to have a look too. basically we are unsure if it would be a pain to learn how to get smw up and running from scratch vs getting cargo to work previously and we have a number of cargo stuff that were prepped before the disabling [04:05:00] I am here [04:05:11] I dunno why I announced that [04:10:46] wb [04:24:22] Is there anything important on Raidarr's talk page that I should look at? I don't want to read Nale's reply right now. [04:24:42] more of the same I'd say [04:24:45] not worth the time [04:24:59] kk [04:40:53] has anything been done yet [04:41:01] re revocation [04:46:50] still going on with the cn [04:47:20] wait @Agent it was oversighted? [04:47:46] it appears that something was oversighted on raidarr's talk page [04:47:55] if it wasn't what else do you think would happen [04:48:02] It was something small [04:48:08] ah [04:48:14] i don't think there's a consensus nor policy on this but nobody wants to argue about it anymore [04:48:15] not the "outing" that Nale alleged? [04:48:16] his comment didn't change though, his reply is untouched [04:48:22] got it [04:53:28] hello gaddman, welcome to the miraheze channel [04:54:08] Hi! Anyone know if there's an issue with the DataDump? I see the option for XML and managewiki, but not the Image option. [04:54:14] which wiki? [04:54:21] It's a private one [04:54:56] ah [04:55:22] image dump has to be requested via Phabricator [04:55:33] Oh right, is that new? I've done it myself in the past. [04:55:56] I don't believe a sysadmin has to generate the dump [04:56:07] if it needs importing to a wiki then yes [04:56:26] not directly for importing, just as a backup [04:56:35] yes i see [04:56:48] ^ [04:56:50] hmm it should allow for generating an image dump [04:57:41] unless something has changed in less than a month and I wasn't aware of that [04:57:42] looks like it's a while since I last did an image dump - 25/07/2022. So it was available then. [04:57:55] let me check something [04:58:13] ah I forgot irc doesn't get replies tru [04:58:26] They only see you replied not what to. [04:58:30] It gets them like this: https://prnt.sc/60QrSV2hWMRf [04:58:51] sadge [04:58:51] CA if I'm wrong, does DataDump not allow for an image generation? [04:58:59] I'm able to do so on Beta... [05:00:00] I'm sure it wasn't after db141 incident at least [05:00:06] not sure about before [05:00:28] No, I was working on it but resigned before finishing it. [05:00:47] oh ouch [05:01:28] ah ok. So sounds like no longer possible then? Or at least not without a Phabricator request. [05:01:37] yes [05:01:42] correct [05:02:34] oh well, will place my trust in the SRE team's backups! Not many files/images in this wiki anyway. [05:02:46] Also replies were originally on my list of things to improve IRC side before resigning frlm Miraheze SRE, but maybe will still finish that. [05:03:00] i see [05:03:06] No backups are kept for images unless you request them. [05:03:23] ooh, ok. Good to know [05:04:28] Regrading these replies, is the action on Discord these days? [05:04:49] yes [05:05:08] I guess you can check Sagan 4 wiki, its admin Disgustedorite converted Cargo stuff to SMW, you might ask them about that [05:05:32] discord has more features, but privacy is worse and discord is closed source and it sucks in several other ways [05:06:00] there isn't many users savvy w/ such extensions + they are part of restricted settings nowadays [05:06:29] i was also banned from discord for some reason they haven't really explained to me [05:07:06] That’s rough. [05:07:18] You were banned? I wasn't even aware of that. [05:08:20] yes i was, i posted about it on CN [05:08:22] I don't see you in the ban list. [05:08:27] no i mean from discord.com as a site [05:08:35] Oh [05:08:38] lol [05:08:53] Over 50,000,000 accounts were [05:09:17] its not a spambot ban if you're wondering, they first banned me because they think im under 13, then warned me for acting like a pedophile [05:09:20] really logical i know [05:09:39] it's good to mention about ban your profile but tbh CN entry wasn't necessary ... especially w/ such details [05:09:45] * in [05:09:46] All I mean is Discord has really cracked down on people lately. [05:09:54] @Legroom#2748 i know [05:10:06] i should've excluded most of the details but i wasnt thinking it through when posting [05:10:43] i had just woken up and my normal schedule is to reply to dms before i do other things and that was when i realized i had been banned [05:10:56] so i hadnt really thought about it too much [05:11:49] and @CosmicAlpha#3274: yeah they have but they havent cracked down on spambots, trolls, etc., they're more interested in edgy jokes and mass-bans with AI and stuff [05:12:42] can a user request to hide their CN entry, in history and from archive etc? [05:13:22] also I didn't realize this discord is public ... [05:13:29] oh well, it's too late [05:13:38] Depends on the request reason [05:18:36] hmmm I got logged out again [05:18:45] it happens much more often now [05:18:56] not counting the cargo logouts [05:20:14] you can't really take something off the internet once its there [05:20:21] im pretty sure that the CN is on the web archive [05:20:33] i dont intend to take back what i wrote or try to hide it from public view [05:20:44] i regret writing it but i dont want it to be just erased from the CN history [05:20:52] someone could close or delete the thread if they *really* insist though [05:21:17] I mean you do you I just was curious [05:21:34] oh i see [05:41:28] is it possible to give to image as `[[File:...` width value via CSS? [05:43:46] elaborate? [05:43:52] I thought it is ... [05:44:12] instead of setting it in File construction [05:45:41] [1/3] like `|250px|` [05:45:42] [2/3] I got a class for image, to give it border and some marhin, which I already set in `|class=` [05:45:42] [3/3] the problem is how image formats in mobile screen, thought I'd give it different width w/ media query [05:45:51] * margin [05:46:33] and the image isn't fixed either, it's in template [05:47:23] Oh there's a "hack" for that [05:48:05] well not really a hack [05:48:45] you can just target the class and the image inside and applyy your css rules [05:53:46] that what I was thinking, but should it be made in class itself or w/ `class image {`? or I mistake something [05:55:28] @Meta-Wiki Administrators If anyone is looking for something to do, [[Category:Candidatesfordeletion]] has 23 entries in it. :) [05:55:28] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Candidates%1dfor%1ddeletion [05:55:29]

[05:56:18] on it! [05:57:11] heh why is my talkpage archive there? Usertalk:Reception123/Archive2 [05:57:22] Pretty sure it has to do with BWM's signature [05:58:18] Target the image itself, this css isn't exactly what you need but is what I did to make responsive images [05:59:01] [1/5] you do ``[[File:image.png|Description|frameless|link=|class=rewards-icon]]`` in File: and then add something like [05:59:01] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:image.png [05:59:01] [2/5] ```img.rewards-icon { [05:59:01] [3/5] width: 40px; [05:59:01] [4/5] height: auto; [05:59:02] [5/5] }``` in your css [05:59:24] oh huh the class got applied to the image itself [05:59:31] then use the rule that electric sheep got [05:59:42] thank you both [06:00:13] I knew it's possible just got confused that img property [06:03:53] Hi! Can someone tell me how long it usually takes for an IP unblock request to be worked on? :3 [06:04:45] lol [06:05:37] @HalfBloodPrince#8125: i cannot promise anything in particular but it's unlikely that you would need to wait more than a day to hear back [06:05:46] just wanted to ping you Agent lol [06:05:49] Oh yes, you emailed us, right? [06:05:53] they've sent email [06:05:54] Sorry, busy day in the emails [06:19:12]

Does anyone know of a template - or if not, how to create one - that can write out numerals? (i.e. if I were to input $16,000,000.00 it would display "$16 million") [06:20:08] this can probably be done with lua but https://xyproblem.info/, there might be a better way to accomplish that [06:20:47]

I need this for a sortable wikitable cus writing adding suffixes such as million or billion or thousand does not work in plaintext as it doesn't jive with the numbers [06:21:49] [1/2] that isn't really hard [06:21:50] [2/2] I think it's possible to use ParserFunc by making it counts the numbers then take the 2 or 3 first numbers [06:22:36] How specific will it be [06:23:38]

To the nearest whole number less than three digits in length (i.e. $16,345,781 would also revert to $16 million) [06:24:10]

Or 1,212 turns to $1 thousand [06:24:26]

So, ideally cut off after the first comma [06:25:22] Will it always be formatted that way [06:25:39]

For my specific purposes, yes. [06:28:00] Could strip the $, find the first comma, extract the number before that comma, figure out the number of decimal places of the remaining number to get the correct word [06:28:21] If there is no comma then I don’t think anything needs to be changed? [06:28:50]

Exactly [06:32:51] Alternatively, can strip all characters that are not numbers or a decimal place, cast that to number, keep on dividing that number by 1000 until it’s less than 1000. Keep track of the number of divides and then you can figure out the word [06:34:22]

Oh [06:34:32]

That does make more sense. [06:34:59]

I'm also not that great at expressing verbally what I want [06:35:36] Nah the description was fine [06:35:57] I just came up with a worse solution first [06:38:43] what will miraheze status on wiki content related to end-to-end encryption if the encryption backdoor bill in the UK passes [06:39:06] like will content teaching how to use end to end encryption without backdoor be allowed [06:39:22] and will i be allowed to say things like contact on matrix session etc [07:07:59] Collei: that depends on what passes [07:10:04] bruh, is there another anti crypto bill in the UK I didn't know about? [07:10:33] Orange_Star: https://signal.org/blog/uk-online-safety-bill/ [07:15:20] Collei: it seems to put duty on the provider skimming [07:15:34] I’m not seeing distribution of materials advising to be an offence [07:15:44] Unlike things like the computer misuse act [07:18:24] i see [07:18:38] was the issue w/ /styles.css pages in Template namespace being wiki text by default addressed to TS upstream? [07:18:52] For how long have they been trying this already? [07:19:02] i dont know [07:19:15] i've read on the EFF site that it seems like it's been argued about for a long time in the UK [07:20:31] Collei: all governments hate encryption they can’t crack [07:20:37] i know [07:20:37] The UK has been trying to undermine encryption for longer than I've been alive [07:20:41] The US tried it with Apple [07:20:46] or at least it feels like it [07:20:48] Until they found a backdoor and shut up [07:20:55] Orange_Star: literally every country has [07:21:05] anyway i know a good loophole, let's not make e2ee, let's make it go so that a foss bot invents some code words for you and then just provides a convenient interface to translate normal english into the code words and vice versa, no encryption at all [07:21:12] :troll: [07:21:26] hewwo [07:21:40] @Legroom#2748 idk [07:21:45] the reason i didnt reply is because idk [07:22:02] and RhinosF1 Orange_Star that is correct, all the governments hate encryption [07:22:27] because "think of the children" when there is little evidence that this solves the child abuse problemd [07:22:39] Collei: it’s not just think of the children [07:22:48] It’s think of the agenda at the time [07:22:58] Terrorism, Children, etc [07:23:02] yea [07:23:13] dont get me wrong, csam is horrible, and its traumatic for victims when its distributed online, but this is not how abuse is solved [07:23:43] the abuse itself wont be prevented if the abusers just stop using the internet 🧍 [07:24:38] also abusers, terrorists, etc. are already criminals, some amount of them smart enough to get away with it, so given that they're already facing life without parole, there's nothing stopping them from making their own e2ee and not caring that making their own e2ee is a crime [07:24:56] Most of them stupid and most of them you make it easier [07:25:06] meanwhile the actual law-abiding citizens are the ones left with insecure e2ee [07:25:11] But yes, the online safety bill is far too wishy washy [07:25:18] It’s not going to do anything [07:25:28] yea [07:25:33] Because it’s wrote by people who don’t understand the internet [07:25:44] And contains vague text that isn’t helpful [07:25:48] yes [09:10:08] Okay! I'll wait anothe r day just in case [12:04:25] Was there a specific deadline in mind for the fundraiser? Seems to have stalled at 42% for the past week unfortunately... [12:10:11] RhinosF1: just fyi mw python tools will need to be updated for MW 1.40 since maintenance extorts will now be run via run.php - still works for now but might not in a future version [12:10:27] s/extorts/scripts [12:11:35] Though we wouldn’t be able to merge until we upgrade since run.php is not present in 1.39 [12:11:50] MacFan4000: yes, I’ll deploy a feature flag soon [12:12:01] Once I’m home for Easter [12:12:58] So you can test new run.php based mwscript [12:13:01] Home after Easter* [12:13:01] Which is 9 days away [12:47:51] does anyone have time to look at this so we can make our wikis stop being crunchy and start being friendly to newcomers, who are actively coming in because submissions are open, again? https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T10702 [14:41:02] oh hi @Doug [14:44:00] hi 🙂 [14:44:06] what's new [14:44:56] Not too much, been busy at work, but that's slowing down now that the end of fiscal year purchases have subsided 🙂 [14:45:05] oh good [14:45:30] miraheze on the to do list at all? lol [14:46:31] Indeed. I'm looking at areas where I can help out and contribute. I'm looking to catch up on what I've missed in terms of community discussions, Miraheze news, and so forth 🙂 [14:46:52] Ah. Happy to catch you up via DMs if you'd like [15:54:59] @Coolie#9406 about your fundraiser question, the number has to be updated manually [15:55:01] sometimes it is not updated [15:55:12] or at least not immediately [16:02:58] be rest assured (atomic shrimp video moment) that we are at more than 42% [16:09:36] Agent: there seems to be a typo here in your reply to nale: "The user has preciously called another user " [16:09:46] i think its meant to be previously not preciously [16:09:46] oops [16:09:52] feel free to change it if you want [16:10:12] ok [16:22:11] Could an admin please check my support ticket, my servers wiki is currently being vandalised/trolled and there's not much we can do [16:23:14] @Stewards [16:23:22] @TheMisterEpic which wiki? [16:23:27] And why can’t you do much? [16:23:28] Subdomain ogsmp [16:23:38] No beaurucrats or admins [16:23:55] The only active beaurucrats went innactive long ago and I still haven't managed to get myself promoted [16:23:59] Cool, we’ll get someone on it soon [16:24:01] oh, I see, you filed the request in the miscellaneous section [16:24:05] that's why it hasn't been looked at [16:24:08] Yea sorry, if it was the wrong spot [16:24:41] So who's a vandal? [16:24:55] Let me check their username [16:26:56] Dizmaze [16:27:16] They are a player banned from the Minecraft server, so are editing pages with false information/trolls [16:28:31] I see [16:28:34] Anyone else? [16:29:15]