[00:06:08] imma go sleep gn [00:16:48] thought i messed up but i did it correctly [00:17:31] anyway goodnight [01:14:14] Small update on cloud11: a reinstall is necessary and will take place tomorrow. [01:14:41] aight [01:15:15] whats that? [01:21:19] Thanks for the update Void! [01:21:29] whats cloud11? [01:22:30] It's a server used to provide some Miraheze services [01:22:36] ah [01:33:24] is reception the only one who is able to run the smw script? sorry for sounding impatient but there’s a number of updates we would like to make to the wiki and it being down entirely is pretty oof 😅 [01:35:41] I'm not sure, someone else may be able to answer that one... I'll see if I can find an answer, though. [01:36:34] the game we cover had some new content added and soon there will be more so I don’t want us to be too far on the backlog [01:42:33] uploading shit to commons would actually be kinda smart tbh [01:42:44] then req for their deletion after it gets fixed lmaooo [01:45:59] what exactly did you do [01:55:06] Once that's done will everything be back to normal? [01:56:19] So, looks like Reception is the Engineering manager, I assume that means they help triage and distribute tasks among the SRE team, likely based on priority/severity, to help with workflow. [01:57:08] What might be a good idea is to create a phabricator task for this, so it's officially tracked somewhere with greater visibility. I doubt that's the issue though. Due to the Miraheze wide issues and volunteer shortage, they just really have their hands full with higher-severity tasks that affect all of MH. [01:57:50] We be winnin these [01:58:11] I can help you create a phab task if you like @xnotyuki. [02:02:13] The note on phab was: "The operating system for cloud11 looks too corrupted for recovery", that I think is what necessitates the reinstall tomorrow instead. [02:02:55] I'm certain they're sorry for the delay though, if that helps at all. [02:02:57] oh it’s fine I can create a task afterwards but thanks so much for the explanation! [02:03:17] yeah I get it hahahhaa [02:03:25] Yw, tbf it's just my interpretation from checking [[ech:SRE_Volunteers]] [02:03:25] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ech:SRE_Volunteers [02:03:26]

[02:03:32] Darn it, [02:03:43] [[Tech:SRE_Volunteers]] [02:03:43] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:SRE_Volunteers [02:03:44]

[02:05:33] What I would do maybe in the phab task, is to link to Agent's earlier ping to reception, that way, they're aware it's the same request (i.e., you're not intentionally double dipping--maybe just mention you just created the phab task for easier tracking). [02:07:15] No idea frankly how they keep track of discord tasks when they have no tracking system for that. Magic maybe? 😆 [02:08:00] If it were me, my brain would 🤯 [03:28:34] What does this mean [03:28:40] I want to move 2 of my Wikis to WikiForge [03:29:12] that's a thing for @CosmicAlpha [03:29:40] I made those 2 request already but waiting for approval [03:36:39] I believe more free wikis won't be approved unless the RfC fails [03:50:07] I just DMed them also. [04:06:44] Thanks for letting me know [04:51:17] good luck [05:16:06] Hello, mirage homepage image don't load [05:16:30] Please check the #announcements 📣 [05:33:57] Bed time for me folks, before I turn into a pumpkin instead of a plum 😛 [05:34:29] G'night [06:11:16] lol [06:16:55] Nice, an update 👀 good luck Void! 🍀 [11:01:33] An approximate resolution date [11:01:36] ? [11:03:03] none yet [11:04:10] More info should be known within the next 24 hours as to when Swift will be back [11:07:28] @Gummiel more info does not mean swift back and nor does it give any indication of whether good or bad news nor how long restoration could take [11:07:48] All I can tell you is it won’t say there is no update [11:11:18] I know, but just getting a timeline on how long it will probably take is a huge step in itself imo [13:59:28] Any timeline would be less accurate than a download time estimate with extreme flux in speeds [14:03:07] Yeah. Work is that slow right now. Just give the team working on it time [14:19:14] mfw its been 6 days [14:49:57] How can I make my wiki private because any attempt for it automatically results to 'fatal error at FileBackendError' [14:52:41] Is there any way to make specific pages not appear in any search results? [14:57:50] Is $wgAllowExternalImages enabled? If not, is there a good reason not to enable it so we could get some of our images back until the problem is resolved? [14:59:49] [1/2] So I've switched to Semantic MediaWiki, but now I'm getting a splash page error with "ERRORSCHEMAINVALID_KEY" for the first few seconds after each page loads. It says "An administrator (or any person with administrator rights) has to run either MediaWiki's update.php or Semantic MediaWiki's setupStore.php maintenance script." Is this something that someone with access to t [14:59:50] [2/2] he backend can quickly take care of? [15:00:22] MikeV: External images can be set via ManageWiki, however you may find it is pretty useless in Miraheze [15:00:44] cause any domain not in the CSP is not allowed, so images won't load [15:00:44] Goodnight! [15:02:37] reschultzed: what's your wiki's subdomain? [15:05:25] It is enabled in ManageWiki but as you suggested, it didn't work. We're kb.nena.org and ndgkb.nena.org. [15:06:24] chances are its because of the CSP: https://github.com/miraheze/puppet/blob/master/modules/varnish/data/csp.yaml [15:06:34] from what domain are you trying to load images? [15:13:49] We would find a convenient place to put our most important images. I tested getting an image from nena.org and it didn't work. Any suggestions? [15:13:56] So, I put a template in a normal page and it works fine. I put it into a category, and it's showing a "Page Module:Message box/cmbox.css has no content." error. [15:14:44] MikeV: Then it is because of the CSP, it tells browsers from what domains to load what, and since nena.org isn't in the media list, browsers block it [15:14:57] that's why it is kinda useless in Miraheze [15:46:13] Please resolve problem [15:48:17] It looks like postimage.org that uses the domain i.postimg.cc for images works. Images posted there can be rendered on our wiki. Thanks, Orange_Star. [15:49:14] Rest assured, they've been actively working on it for several days now, unfortunately the problem is rather complex, and time-consuming to resolve. The volunteers working on it are doing as much as they are able, as fast as they are able. This one is just going to take some time, unfortunately. [15:49:38] Ok [15:50:10] I would like to have the pictures on the website until this is resolved [15:50:17] In my wiki [15:51:06] Currently, that is possible only if the images are served from elsewhere. Unfortunately, we're having to wait it out. [16:01:18] Am înțeles [16:36:45] You know romanian? [16:45:54] No, I wish I did, I just have a nice MW template for taking text and turning it into an auto-translated Google Translate URL heheheeh : ) [16:46:10] It comes in handy lots of places. [16:47:10] Alas, I don't even know French (being 🇨🇦 , that's kinda bad), I only have tiny bits of Dutch. ¯\(ツ)/¯ [16:48:17] If you want, I'll teach you. 🙂 [16:49:26] French or Romanian? [16:49:34] French. [16:50:29] Ah,that one would come in handy, I know bits of it also, but not nearly enough to hold a conversation XD [16:51:47] I know what it is, I have to copy and paste all the sentences in English to translate them if I want to have a conversation. 🙂 [16:52:14] Even though I'm not too bad in English either. [16:53:01] That makes sense, writing would be ultra-hard I would think, where speaking seems easier. I'd be doubly terrible at writing in another language. [16:53:51] Ah, I find reading and writing in a foreign language easier. [16:54:18] I don't have time to figure it out anymore. [16:54:26] Sorry [16:54:31] I have more time to understand [16:54:54] Personal opinion, of course. [16:58:04] Oh, interesting, I didn't think of that, but you're right, more time with would probably helps digest it better. [16:59:25] I can understand some of what my grandmother/aunts/uncles say in Dutch, but I can't speak it as they can. [16:59:32] It's especially that when you speak, you have the speed of diction of people, you have the accent that can prevent you from understanding people and also from making yourself understood. [16:59:59] In writing, you don't have all that so it's much easier. [17:00:34] Yeah, and your point about more time with it makes sense. I should ask them to correspond with me in Dutch in writing, and see if I can build my understanding better that way. [17:01:14] I think so, you will understand much better. [17:02:05] Especially if you already speak some Dutch. [17:02:15] Yeah, thanks for that. I've only been using translate to manufacture some crazy pop-up cards for her now and then, heheeh. 😆 [17:03:36] Converting these to an embedded letter too, and continued correspondence to practice, might be kinda fun [17:04:25] Ok [17:04:30] Yeah, send each other letters, or emails. [17:04:35] I forgot to translate [17:06:03] No worries. There's lots of folks that speak different languages here, it's nice to see/learn. [17:06:12] 😉 [17:14:58] <[baws]#7595> waited a few days [17:15:08] <[baws]#7595> still waiting on when image file previews will be fixed [17:20:57] Yeah, sorry about that baws, they're still actively working on it though. It has turned out to be more complex than thought. [17:22:16] I thought there was going to be a reset or something? [17:23:55] Last I read, they're having to reinstall the operating system today, as recovery was unsuccessful [17:24:55] So today? Or tomorrow? [17:25:30] I read: tomorrow. [17:25:57] Oh, I didn't think they have an ETA yet, unfortunately... but would have to read up again and see what the latest is. [17:27:08] I read that they are going to do a reinstall tomorrow. [17:27:11] Good new. [17:27:21] If so, that'd be great. [17:27:37] I keep forgetting to check the tech namespace for update. [17:27:44] I would have preferred it to be today actually, but they are doing what they can. [17:28:34] I'm wondering if there are more tasks after the reinstall, that need doing (I would have thought so, but I don't know enough about it). [17:29:37] Neither do I. [17:30:03] The files are apparently not affected, so I guess there will be no need to recover them. [17:38:09] that was said yesterday [17:38:57] Which time zone? [17:39:20] utc [17:39:30] pretty sure [17:42:10] Said the 15th [17:42:11] https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T10717 [17:42:21] Oh I mean when what time zone is "yesterday" and "tomorrow" [17:42:43] Well yes, I could be wrong because of the time difference. [17:45:03] this image from meta.miraheze exists now!! [17:46:45] might have allways existed idk [17:46:51] most images dont tho [17:47:22] all images from commons work [17:47:29] That’s probably from commons [17:48:41] it is (see last line in screenshot) [17:52:07] huh [17:52:14] its on the meta.miraheze site [17:52:20] idk how that work [17:52:26] works* [17:52:33] yes, you can see commons files from miraheze with instant commons [17:56:40] If it helps to understand, MH can still display files stored in other sites/servers, like commons, as they aren't stored on MH. The image problem currently affects images stored on MH. [17:59:02] hmm [17:59:54] If I had to hazard a guess, it's because all users implicitly have access to commons images (provided commons is enabled for your wiki) [18:00:10] And thus no verification of rights is needed. [18:00:44] @NotAracham nothing to do with that in the slightest [18:00:54] Instant commons just doesn’t touch Swift [18:01:10] Ah good to know. [18:02:40] The images are embedded straight from Wikimedia [18:03:00] You can cache thumbnails but I’m pretty sure that’s off by default so you don’t display deleted content [18:17:13] Oh shoot, I thought we were talking about MH commons, not WP commons. [18:17:32] MH commons embedded images are also down [18:18:34] Yep, that makes much more sense. [18:20:33] huh [18:20:44] what about minecraft.fandom? [18:20:51] could you load those? [18:21:04] or only mediawiki official imagery? [18:21:17] Only those on Wikimedia Commons [18:21:28] most MediaWiki wikis can load images from Commons [18:21:48] I mean we can add foreign wikis [18:21:51] what would you write to link a wikimedia commons image? [18:22:05] I’m not sure we’ve ever done a non Miraheze foreign image host [18:22:11] @jst same as you do a normal file [18:22:24] It checks if it exists on commons if the Miraheze image doesn’t exist [18:22:49] okay [18:23:02] could you check if other pages dont exist outside of miraheze? [18:23:21] like if a name of a page on minecraft.fandom exists [18:23:37] Only files [18:23:42] ok [18:23:43] Not pages [18:31:20] agent is owner of polandball wiki [18:31:29] woah [18:45:36] Is that real? Polandball discord is different than polandball wiki [18:52:11] Pretty sure agent is the sole bureaucrat on Polandball wiki now also... but might be wrong. [18:53:13] <[baws]#7595, replying to FrozenPlum#2113> the images are still on the servers though? [18:53:42] Yes [18:53:54] The server that authenticates access is broken [19:02:12] Info on that, and the current status can be found here: [[Tech:SRE noticeboard]] [19:02:12] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:SRE_noticeboard [19:02:13]

[19:02:38] the discord is called polandball wiki [19:04:17] so idk [19:04:18] I’m a bit confused about why the photo issue isn’t mentioned anywhere in #announcements. Maybe someone can provide a recap of the issue there? [19:04:37] lies [19:04:40] top message [19:04:40] please [19:04:46] not in general [19:05:34] the discord servers happenings I mean [19:05:39] Hi! Right now I'm trying to get a wiki started at ultrakill.miraheze.org. Originally, the wiki was almost entirely empty with no administrators or bureaucrats. Is there precedent for what to do in this scenario, since nobody can really do anything about this without one of us having administrator/bureaucrat status? [19:06:17] you wasn't the one to request it as I understand? [19:06:19] just request for the wiki to be repurposed in the reopen wiki request thing? [19:06:23] Couldn’t they continue it in #offtopic? [19:06:28] if there is really no one except you, you can directly claim as bureaucrat [19:06:36] yes [19:06:46] oh [19:06:49] Problem solved✅✅ [19:06:50] its not closed [19:07:04] if there are other people, you need to do a vote [19:07:58] hm, how would I go about that? i apologize, none of us working on the wiki are very experienced with miraheze [19:07:59] what if the subdomain is closed originally? [19:08:13]