[01:52:20] I'm not currently aware of a black skin, but I haven't tried them all... someone asked about dark vector a while back and Void had some css for it . Not sure if that's helpful at all. [01:52:35] @_AR1A ^ [01:53:20] That was quite a long time ago though, not sure if still relevant. [01:55:15] I wonder if Cosmos might have a dark version? [01:56:28] Citizen I think has a dark mode [01:56:42] It does if you configure the colors to dark colors, everything else adapts to fit it. [01:57:06] ^ re Cosmos [01:57:34] There is the Dark Mode extension also. [01:58:01] citizen has a full-on dark setting, evidently cosmos natively supports it [01:58:11] Yeah, Cosmos seems a good option. [01:58:24] none other I recall has that as a native option and dark mode is just an invert filter [01:58:40] Oh yeah, and the invert filter is problematic for a number of elements. [01:58:45] darkvector is unmaintained iirc [01:59:18] Cosmos fixes some of the issues with the Dark Mode extension but integrates directly with it when used also. Doesn't have a built in option. [01:59:20] Yeah, I see darkvector on the rejected skins list. [02:00:54] It used to but I accidentally removed it in a patch ages ago, when skin became more customisable, and I just don't feel like readding built-in darkmode to Cosmos. [02:01:28] I think they're after a dark skin altogether. [02:01:46] Cosmos by default used to be dark coloring. [02:01:54] options for that are limited to technically nonexistent without additional effort [02:02:05] Question since you guys are here... if a wiki is CC BY-NC-SA 4.0, but has disabled Special:Export and Export api module, should the user just do their best to attribute templates used from such a site? [02:02:28] Any suggestions for how to approach such? [02:02:41] while not ideal, simply mentioning where the stuff came from/linking to it should be sufficient [02:03:19] [1/2] I think disabling Export on a CC-BY-SA licensed wiki is highly counter intuitive, and doesn't make a ton of sense. [02:03:19] [2/2] But it is sufficient to just mention/attribute in edit summaries as well [02:03:23] Yeah, I figured direct link to the page on their wiki and mentioning their wiki should work... [02:03:28] Ok, right on, thanks! [02:08:57] Is there info on how to set up an audit feed from a wiki to a discord server? [02:38:04] [1/2] Creating a webhook: [02:38:04] [2/2] https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/228383668-Intro-to-Webhooks [02:38:22] Once you've created a webhook, you can add it via Additional Settings >> Notifications [09:20:28] <Призрачный Вор Скотт#2957, replying to Призрачный Вор Скотт#2957> He is work! [13:50:08] Goodnight, fellow bumblebees! [18:50:29] how can i make this appear? [19:05:39] it shows the attribution and the license [19:16:01] i guess unneeded rights = co-owner [19:18:20] every single right he added was effectively a demotion [19:22:56] given that meta is my "home wiki" reception wikis really confuse me in their mannerisms in management but oh well [19:46:36] you and I are both very familiar with reception wiki mannerisms [19:46:46] admittedly I may have overthought about them more [19:47:19] they come from a very different culture, unfortunately it doesn't end well when that culture batters against meta/wikimedian ideals [20:12:35] lol yeah crat+admin is really all you need to be co-owner. Even more so if the main crat would be overthrown, assuming its a MH wiki at least, that would mean a community consensus, and thus would probably include any "co-owners" as well then xD, so that "reason" doesn't even really make sense [20:35:32] ugh, history repeated on the wiki discussed above [20:36:04] the community in question doesn't really believe in community consensus, and doesn't have much of a community as it is [20:36:18] which of course results in some problems [20:41:06] lmaooo [20:41:22] I replied in your support thread that asks the same question. [20:41:36] I will be discussing the possibility of outright closure with other stewards [20:42:14] the wiki is a relic of long rebuked attitudes and inability to adapt to miraheze on the part of old style reception wikis; some wikis have adapted, this one refuses [20:42:31] I don't think closure is justified [20:42:40] The wiki isn't violating any global policies [20:42:54] the wiki represents a long demonstrated history of unwillingness to be accountable to the community or discuss issues with the membership [20:43:15] attempts to discuss this with the wiki's main proprietor have been deflected [20:43:48] [1/2] https://amazingyoutubers.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Topic:Xghvi05o2jdroq12&topic_revId=xgmzayxr16oadqf9&action=single-view [20:43:48] [2/2] well yeah this wiki is great [20:44:23] this is great 😭 [20:44:41] the wiki features various attitudes and practices which may be characterizes as toxic including the admin hitlist blacklist, the way it approaches issues, and its unwillingness to change [20:45:03] despite not being a negative reception wiki it represents the negative attributes of every closed reception wiki [20:45:37] it would not be the worst case of closure but it is a case I believe merits consideration; I am aware it is more of an edge case, and for that reason I would see it discussed first instead of just terminating it on my own [20:46:10] Since most of the wiki's problems can be attributed to Pacsonic, he should just be demoted and the community can vote on his replacement [20:46:14] I would also argue its main operators run completely in contradiction to global conduct policies [20:46:25] without each of those members there is little community that remains [20:46:48] the issue is pacsonic, duchess, and pcgamer, each of whom have been complicit in that status quo [20:47:32] it's merited itself for intervention in any case, so that will be discussed [20:48:29] In that case, the proper solution would be to flush the wiki's administration and place it under Steward watch until new admins are elected [20:48:38] Blastoise can stay, I guess [20:49:08] i was demoted because i "sided with Money123123, tried to demote Pacsonic9000 from his own wiki, and sturred up more drama." [20:49:32] i was demoted because of this? [20:52:18] Procedurally this is probably the most likely course [20:52:29] the only real flush that would be needed is the bureaucracy as it has been most irresponsible [20:57:14] given my history with the participants it should not be me who fires the round in any case [21:06:28] funny part is, i didnt even want bureaucrat/admin on that wiki, i wanted admin on amazing github projects or whatever [21:10:19] yeah, your bureaucracy was strange [23:37:31] The AMYTW situation just escalated; Bukkit made a post calling out Pacsonic, which was later deleted for "drama", and she was recently banned by one of the admins on the wiki