[01:42:21] is there any way to generate common templates? like stub and other universal ones as bases [03:07:50] Is there a way to see how many wikis currently have experimental status? [03:08:56] How do I make these Navigation Categories into Miraheze? [03:13:56] Those look a little like tables with colored headers... is it a public wiki you can provide a link to? [03:14:20] If I'm being honest, those are a little hard on my eyes (too bright). [03:20:55] [1/4] Hey i just wanted to double check a policy/rule related thing, i think we're following it correctly, but I figure it's best to be safe. [03:20:55] [2/4] So the NSFW content policy states that NSFW wikis should have a dismissible banner to alert readers of 18+ content. [03:20:56] [3/4] Does that rule have to be followed exactly? [03:20:56] [4/4] Because our wiki has a warning right at the top of the page, but it's not dismissible. [03:24:20] I'm just a user, but perhaps you might be using `MediaWiki:Sitenotice` rather than the DismissableSiteNotice extension? [03:25:58] [1/2] This link might help, at least with what looks like collapsible tables (can't tell without a link provided): [03:25:58] [2/2] - Collapsible elements. [03:26:53] Plus [03:27:09] That's sufficient [03:28:10] cool! thank you for answering! [03:29:24] It's nice you're leaving it up all the time. [03:29:45] I misread that part x D [03:34:24] Oh, bummer, they have to be public [[Tech:Experimental_Wikis]]. Makes sense though I guess. [03:34:24] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Experimental_Wikis [03:34:25] [06:50:23] Is there a way to make a channel in discord that can "search" for things in your wiki? [06:52:24] Use Wiki-Bot in a channel. [06:53:54] Thank you [06:54:46] No problem! [06:55:39] Sorry I'm brand new fr haha. Just trying to learn the ropes [06:57:41] How do I go about finding bots? [06:58:15] https://discord.bots.gg/bots/461189216198590464 [06:58:43] OHHH It's the one I already have lmfao. NVM! thank you [06:58:59] No problem lol [07:09:44] So, I'm used to Fandom Wikia (I know, I know) but how do you do templates and infoboxes in Miraheze? [07:17:31] [1/2] same way is in FANDOM, both platforms operate on MediaWiki [07:17:31] [2/2] you just need to make some extra steps on Miraheze, for example enabling PortableInfobox extension [07:17:59] OH! thank you so much haha. [07:20:17] you can just import things from FANDOM to Miraheze too, instead of redoing/copy pasting [07:20:36] Oh wait for real! [07:20:42] That's gonna save me DAYS [07:20:55] people migrate entire wikis from FANDOM here [07:21:25] the thing w/ imports tho they has to have all page histories, for licensing reasons [07:21:39] Imports? [07:21:43] Where would I find htis [07:22:29] are you planning a big migration or just to import couple of templates? [07:23:01] Mostly the templates honestly, I think I need to rewrite alot. I've had this server for about 4 years now [07:26:26] [1/3] on FANDOM wiki go to `Special:Export` page and type names of pages you want to export, it'll give you XML files of those pages [07:26:27] [2/3] then on Miraheze wiki (you should first request it to be created btw) go to `Special:Import` [07:26:27] [3/3] however if files are too heavy, over couple of KB, wiki will fail in the process and you'll have to request Miraheze sysadmins to do it for you [07:32:13] I got it created 😄 I requested it in the morning [07:40:01] I'm trying to work my way back when I didn't understand, so I have it downloaded as a XML, and I imported it, it's all blank though [07:42:49] Also, What are name sakes? [07:53:52] namespace is basically types of pages [07:54:06] for template page there's `Template:` prefix [07:54:22] on export page you should have it as `Template:...` [07:55:04] main namespace pages aka articles don't have prefixes and count as content pages of wiki (by default) [07:56:22] But do I not need the infobox template? [07:56:26] or is that built in? [08:00:35] Miraheze wiki is blank, you need to create or import templates yes [08:01:14] what I mean is that you should type namespace prefix too [08:01:29] in things like export/import [08:02:09] [1/2] your infobox is "Character", for example [08:02:09] [2/2] gonna me `Template:Character` [08:02:23] Yeah, that makes sense [08:08:56] [1/4] So the steps are. [08:08:56] [2/4] 1. Go to the page with the template. Copy paste Url, and place in Special:Export and download as XML. [08:08:57] [3/4] 2. Place the XML in the Special:Import and give it a namespace. [08:08:57] [4/4] 3. Then go to Template:(Name) and continue from there? [08:10:15] Is that correct? [08:10:25] How do I put that into the actual page then? [08:13:42] import should create the pahe [08:14:06] Mm... then I guess I am doing wrong [08:17:50] I have so many questions haha [08:31:50] Better question, when exporting, do I export the just the name, the url or the link? [08:32:57] [1/4] Like, is it (just as an example, I'm gonna Emily) [08:32:57] [2/4] Emily [08:32:57] [3/4] h.ttps://ffos-database.fandom.com/wiki/Emily [08:32:58] [4/4] /Emily [08:35:00] This is already somewhat the case as I described in my request, but if the universe would stand out even more through new media, such as series or new characters, then it would be good? [08:39:18] Thanks. [10:24:28] [1/3] I'm at work man, hope you understand [10:24:28] [2/3] Miraheze is volunteer based platform, people here are helping whenever they can and another user might have more competence over specific questions than me [10:24:28] [3/3] and, I'll be honest - I haven't performed export/import for over a year and always forgot details [10:26:18] a proper Miraheze based guide woul be handy ngl, MediaWiki ones are disappointing [10:30:53] all good! I am sorry to message you out the of blue. I appreciate the help! [10:43:05] I believe you only have to write out names of the pages on the Export page (each in a new line). It was also quite a while since I did exports, so you should try with 1-2 pages first to double-check <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [10:43:35] Names including namespaces of course (so for example Template:Stub would have to remain Template:Stub, not Stub) [10:47:30] ELI5 Namespaces, I'm not quite understanding the concept [11:11:25] Hello! can someone help me get unblocked on Miraheze? My IP has been globally blocked, and I sent in a couple of mails to try and have it rectified, but to no avail. [11:21:47] @Stewards [11:33:27] Feel free to DM [11:42:16] @HalfBloodPrince [12:06:55] Think of them like folders. So a page without a namespace (like `.../wiki/Apple`) is not in a folder, a template (`.../wiki/Template:Apple`) is in the "Template" folder (so the Template namespace) and so on. Some folders can have special properties that affect pages and that you can change in wiki settings. [12:08:57] Essentially a page belongs to a template that's named whatever you write before a : in the page name, but only of such a namespace exists. Otherwise it's in the main namespace (no folder) [12:09:10] You can add or remove existing namespaces in the wiki settings too [12:10:02] More info here https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Namespaces [12:25:06] It keeps happening. This time it hit Mason. [12:31:50] For the purposes of import/export you really don't need to understand the concept of namespaces. Just make sure you grab the entire name after the `/wiki/` part of the url of the page you want to export. [13:02:21] So, it's just after /Wiki/? [13:02:23] @Gummiel [13:07:07] Yes everything after the /wiki/ is the full title of a page, and what you put in the export text box (and if you want to export multiple pages then each title on a new line [13:35:34] I see. So it's not the ENTIRE URL? [13:35:37] It's just the name [13:35:57] That's good to know [13:36:05] Hi, after successfully installing the extension:Wikiforum I still can't find the corresponding special page on my wiki. Does anyone know how I can find the page and create the forum accordingly? [13:36:23] WikiForum is currently disabled due to some severe security vulnerabilities [13:37:32] but users still can enable it? [13:38:00] Thank you, is there a usable alternative? [13:38:36] Yes, i could do that [13:51:23] Goodnight! [14:41:27] miraheze will one day come to an end [14:44:54] we never know, miraheze could come to an end at anytime..... [14:46:23] I mean, for all you know Miraheze could shut down the next second /s [14:48:41] proceeds to delete all of Miraheze's servers [15:01:27] true, and the thing is we put all this work into mirahze and we dont know what could happen [15:01:42] I think you missed the /s [15:01:57] that is the scary part, all of our work going to waste [15:05:50] I don't really see the pertinence of such "doomsday talk" out of the blue. [15:05:53] Miraheze is doing fine [15:05:59] if you're worried about the fundraiser, one of the sub-goals was reaching £3840, which we met [15:06:17] so there's at least another year of Miraheze [15:07:37] man wtf [15:12:49] Obvious /s apparently wasn't obvious [16:27:30] A friendly warning, repeated doomsaying without evidence that the service is about to collapse (when it's very clearly not and several folks have told you otherwise) is a great way to get banned from the discord. Let's make this the first and last time you 'joke' about it, I'd really prefer to not have to take that step. [17:12:17] understood i am just worried about losing all my work, if miraheze was to go down hill [17:12:50] Sure, but that's why a backup feature exists, which you can utilize. [19:40:09] does i18n need to be configured for global renamers? [19:40:26] MirahezeMagic has to be updated [19:40:33] ah got it [19:40:44] thought so was just checking [19:40:55] since the Rename extension will be removed [19:43:27] what's Rename extension? [19:43:29] The renameuser extension is just merged with core [19:43:45] No functionality changes BrandonWM [19:44:03] GlobalRename is separate though [19:44:13] And part of CentralAuth [19:50:04] @CosmicAlpha around? If so, -sre Swift issue maybe [19:56:34] Might be fine [19:58:21] ? [19:58:26] how do you do that [19:58:31] send messages like that [19:59:03] @MirahezeRelay is from IRC @jst [20:32:44] damm [20:33:20] 0.16% of users on miraheze donating according to #announcements is enough for miraheze to meet their goal [20:34:10] 0.5% would have to donate like 5 dollars to meet their goal [20:36:15] so like 2% or 3% would have to donate a single dollar [20:45:33] Yep, sure wish that more of those that use MH, and can donate even a small amount, would. [20:45:54] Every little bit helps. : ) [20:48:23] according to #announcements their goal is 8175 dollars [20:48:47] 16.35 dollars * 500 members [20:51:07] Our group has recurring donations set monthly [20:51:55] That's a super convenient option imo [20:52:02] Nothing to have to remember to do [20:53:47] what is their goal tho [20:54:06] is it 8k dollars per ? [20:54:22] month 6 months year [20:54:49] [[Donate]] Some of the options provide [20:54:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Donate [20:54:50] [20:55:34] Actually, that page seems outdated. [20:55:41] There's also: https://ko-fi.com/miraheze [20:56:07] also what is our group? [20:57:04] My wiki's group [20:57:35] ok [21:09:34] I requested on the Donate talk page that they add the ko-fi option above that MH volunteers provided to me here (understandably that page is protected). [21:17:45] Attempting an update now [21:22:18] Done, though someone more fluent with the translation extension should check my work to make sure the changes play nice. [21:23:13] whos in charge of the search engine these days at miraheze? [21:28:13] Is there a Global Sysop available? [21:28:37] or Steward [21:28:56] You rang? [21:29:26] I need someone to locally block https://tttewiki.miraheze.org/wiki/User:MH1994 on that wiki [21:29:55] they're attempting a 100GB+ image import, which is very much not something we can do given the disk usage on swift servers [21:30:20] their import was previously declined in https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T10760 [21:30:23] i wouldnt necessaryly say that is a blockable offense [21:30:28] Why not set wgEnableUploads to false for the wiki? [21:30:36] already did, but is useless [21:31:15] I'm not seeing any PR for it [21:31:27] wgEnableUploads is managed through ManageWiki [21:31:29] Can it be disabled via ManageWiki? [21:31:31] Ah [21:31:58] im checking you're dm in a sec NotAracham [21:32:15] Cocopuff: Disk usage on the swift servers holding files is already very much at the limit, check out swiftobject122: https://grafana.miraheze.org/d/W9MIkA7iz/miraheze-cluster?orgId=1&var-job=node&var-node=swiftobject122.miraheze.org&var-port=9100 [21:32:28] 100gb+ is not something we have the technical capability to import [21:33:48] will have a look in a moment i have alot of tabs open [21:35:30] Very well, will block [21:38:41] i do need to speak to you later in dms when you have a chance agent (wiki related) incass you are curious [21:54:35] @Agent you there? [21:55:21] still waiting on that block, user stop uploading for a while but it's back [21:59:33] gonna send a dm, agent, for when you have time to answer [22:04:22] i would recommend Posting you're request on steward's noticeboard [22:04:42] yeah [22:32:48] Did images break again? Noticed that images on my wiki aren't loading anymore again, though there's nothing in #announcements [22:34:37] My wiki's images seem fine... [22:36:21] link if still broken? [22:37:32] Your gifs are working fine, could it be a template problem? [22:38:02] I think it might be (from looking at comment history) ? [22:38:51] Seems to be PNGs [22:40:35] Yeah, PNG files are giving "unauthorized" error for some reason. [22:40:49] When going direct to static link e.g., [22:41:38] It's thumnails only, full link works fine [22:42:14] Purging has no effect. [22:48:00] I'd make a phab task to look at that wiki's circumstance [22:48:13] We noticed a change in image behaviour recently, images used on our public mainpage (on our private wiki) used to be viewable by logged-out, non-members. Now they all don't appear including CSS and fonts. [22:48:46] We assumed we'd then have to have exceptions for every item, which is too much work. [22:48:52] So, we ended up blanking the page instead. [22:49:07] Totally different though. [22:49:09] Last time this crept in, IIRC it was either a container issue or an overloaded swift server. Either way, something for SRE team [22:49:18] what you describe is probably intended as images were changed in a way to make them private in nature along with a private wiki [22:50:08] @Cirom, can you please make a [[Phabricator]] task for your issue? [22:50:08] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phabricator [22:50:08] [22:51:03] Ah, okay, I wondered. Definitely too much work to have exceptions added for each. The CSS was a bit odd, I guess it'd have to be in-line styles then. [22:51:33] I guess that might have included CSS but I didn't hear about that [22:52:23] Hmm, I'll check into it again. I might be seeing that part wrong. [22:54:44] Yeah, probably was. The font was dropped because the font file is hosted locally, that's not the CSS. Same for images. Some styles were inline, but depended on the Skin's root font size set in skin CSS.