[01:00:49] I'm not sure why the infobox is actually working? [01:00:58] It should show up right? [01:02:28] Oh, ve edit mode is a bit goofy. Does it show up correctly on the page once saved? [01:03:50] Nah, not showing up at all [01:04:03] Yeah, PortableInfobox doesn't support VisualEditor displaying [01:04:15] Ah, what does it support then? [01:04:30] The classic wiki editor [01:04:46] I'm not sure what you mean [01:05:13] er, I'm not sure what I'm saying too [01:05:17] Went on autopilot for a bit [01:05:30] Lmfao. So, remove PortableInfobox? [01:05:35] What I mean is that PortableInfobox doesn't show up in VisualEditor as the final product [01:05:44] Once you save it, it should appear normally [01:06:54] Hmm, it doesn't seem like it worked [01:07:59] The values I'm seeing that you're inputting don't match up with what the infobox is setup to display [01:08:16] For example, I don't see a "title" attribute [01:08:21] But I do see a "title1" attribute [01:09:00] Hmm, you are right [01:09:30] So, just add Name? [01:09:50] To the infobox, yes, or use title1 perhaps? [01:10:38] ...that's, weird [01:11:25] Let me double read the article again in the ManageWiki [01:11:57] TemplateWizard isn't compatible with PortableInfobox unfortunately so Infobox values don't automatically appear on there [01:12:21] OOOOH, is Template Wizard the default then? [01:13:02] In otherwords should I just remove PortableInfobox? or Template Wizard? [01:14:39] [1/2] TemplateSandbox [01:14:39] [2/2] Renders a page transcluding templates from a sandbox? this perhaps/ [01:15:04] Ah, Template Wizard was not on [01:15:23] So, what I had on was PortableInfobox and that's it [01:17:21] It should be compatible, but you'd need to manually create the template data to tell it how it works [01:17:59] See and for details about these two features. [01:18:01] Hmm, like fully manually? Like, coding manually? [01:20:44] There's a wizard for the template data [01:21:04] See the links void posted they give more info on the features [01:21:33] essentially VE doesn't know anything about a template until you've added template data for that template [01:23:05] TemplateWizard sometimes pickups on parameters in templates that use the traditional {{{value|}}} [01:23:05] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bvalue [01:24:05] Oh didn't know it does that, pretty neat [01:24:06] I feel like a child learning english again, I'm so sorry haha [01:25:01] So, having TemplateWizard, PortableInfobox, TemplateSandbox at the same time is ok? [01:39:51] Does anyone know why I don't have the data-dump? [01:40:01] This is what it's meant to look like [01:51:25] Nvm [02:06:43] Is there maintenance right now? My wiki is in read only mode all of a sudden [02:07:02] what's the URL? [02:07:54] it appears one of the db servers has mariadb in read-only [02:08:09] I'm guessing db121 OOM'd again [02:08:53] I pinged the people who can fix it, it's up to them to fix it [02:09:01] https://iriskonstantino.miraheze.org/ [02:11:06] So is the Namespaces the same as the Category (thing) in Fandom? [02:12:29] i dont use fandom [02:12:43] oh wait youre replying to another thread [02:13:11] Yeah, sorry haha [02:14:11] can you try again? [02:17:15] works now, what happened? [02:17:26] db server restarted and needed someone to unlock it [02:18:37] i assume i wouldnt be able to do that myself? [02:18:42] no [05:56:15] [1/9] no, categories are categories. [05:56:16] [2/9] category is a namespace by itself. [05:56:16] [3/9] again, namespaces are basically types of pages, which behave differently, and can be recognised by prefixes [05:56:16] [4/9] - main namespace - normal pages where you create articles [05:56:17] [5/9] - category - namespace were pages can contain other pages, like folders [05:56:17] [6/9] - template - another namespace, which can be used many times on other pages [05:56:17] [7/9] and so on [05:56:17] [8/9] [[mw:Help:Namespaces]] [05:56:17] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Namespaces [05:56:18] [9/9] FANDOM just gives default set of namespaces, while Miraheze lets you to create additional, custom namespaces [05:56:18]

[05:58:25] custom namespaces are usually created when a wiki needs some kind of pages w/ valuable stuff but at the same time doesn't want them to be associated w/ articles, the main namespace, for example [06:09:28] [1/8] the default set is usually [06:09:28] [2/8] - main - no prefix [06:09:28] [3/8] - category - `Category:` prefix [06:09:28] [4/8] - template - `Template:` prefix [06:09:28] [5/8] - user - user pages, w/ `User:` prefix [06:09:28] [6/8] - project - prefix is title of the wiki, for example, for Meta wiki it's gonna be `Meta:`; it's for stuff like "about", "general disclaimer", links at the very bottom of wiki [06:09:28] [7/8] - `Special:` and `MediaWiki:` are special, technical kind of namespaces [06:09:28] [8/8] + most of namespaces have additional "talk" sub-namespaces for discussion [06:16:09] [1/2] ngl I didn't know what are namespaces myself till I moved to Miraheze from FANDOM. [06:16:09] [2/2] on FANDOM I just got the gist of how things work, but didn't dig into technical details of MediaWiki, because platform gives everything ready on easy level. [06:18:07] but on Miraheze it's right in admin menu and it lets you to change a lot of stuff [09:22:37] How fast does a custom domain change usually take [10:11:43] It may depend on how busy volunteers are. A past search turned up this answer that might help: [10:13:38] More info about custom domains here: [[Custom_domains]] [10:13:38] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Custom_domains [10:13:39]

[10:29:27] Fun [13:37:47] You forgot a pretty substantial and important namespace, `File:` [13:38:00] damn lol [14:02:21] Goodnight! [18:29:26] [1/2] Hi, there. [18:29:27] [2/2] To have a wiki only on MediaWiki, you have to pay, right? [18:30:27] @Ice Mace no [18:30:35] Miraheze is free [18:40:55] Miraheze, yes. But I'm talking about the case with a wiki only on MediaWiki, as I've seen. [18:41:14] I have no idea what you mean [18:41:26] Mediawiki is open source [18:41:46] https://www.mariowiki.com/ [18:41:49] Like this [18:42:46] Only this [18:42:48] Yes mediawiki is free [18:42:55] It's 100% open source [18:43:07] You do not need to pay to use the MediaWiki software, as it's FOSS (Free Open Source Software) but you do need to pay for hosting if you run your own wiki [18:43:25] So, how do you create a wiki only with MediaWiki? [18:43:55] By reading the docs [18:44:05] This is not a mediawiki support server [18:45:14] Thanks anyway. [18:46:36] you'll have to pay for server [18:46:51] that's independent hosting [18:52:09] That's what I thought. Thank you. [18:55:25] You don't create a wiki on Mediawiki, but with Mediawiki [20:58:05] Mediawiki is the name of the software and not intended to be a wiki like wikipedia [22:03:32] I never said that, I was just curious to know because I see that some wikis only have the MediaWiki "logo" at the bottom. [22:17:53] Oooohh I get it now. Sorry for the confusion. The reason they only have the mediawiki logo at the bottom is because they are not hosted by miraheze and are independently hosted [23:02:17] It's okay. And I just wanted to know if being independently hosted meant that it was paid. [23:02:47] It does cost money to host [23:03:12] Quite a bit [23:03:39] Okay, thanks for the answer. That's what I thought. [23:06:34] I've thought of hosting my wiki myself but I'm just an amateur editor. However, not only is it free to host here but also has places where you can seek tech support [23:37:51] independent hosting means you need to provide the resources that the software is running on [23:39:02] such resources are usually not offered for free and require you to take the time to configure the software yourself, and require a degree of technical competence in doing so [23:39:37] there are free answers but they always have drawbacks, but then, so does paying [23:47:50] [1/3] Mediawiki is just the software you use to run the wiki, but you need some machines you put said software on. One option is to use a platform Miraheze, Fandom(ugh) etc. that provide not only that but also takes cares of the most technical parts of the software and setup of network etc for you, OR you can do independent hosting, which would mean you have to go and get those machin [23:47:50] [2/3] es yourself and run the software yourself, and everything, this could in theory mean doing it on your own computer, though I would certainly not advice this if you planning a public wiki, or some other universal host option where you can install whatever you want (thus including Mediawiki on), these are usually paid for. The fact of the matter is, the world runs on money, and SO [23:47:50] [3/3] MEONE is gonna have to pay the bills for the machines you run Mediawiki on. MH get this money through donations, fandom gets it through ads, ads, ads and some more ads, and a bit more ads for good measure. A lot of universal hosts you just have to pay to even use them.