[00:36:27] Building on previous reports, I have several broken images on my wiki for existing, unmodified images... [00:36:38] Hopefully we're not hitting another swiftac issue... [00:37:19] Impacts aren't file type or size-specific, all image embeds are fair game. [00:47:27] seems like they have the same file name [04:46:24] Well, I come checking back 10 hours later, clearing my browser cache, purging the page.... and it still uses the old thumbnail. I guess I will be following Nobody679's tip then. [09:12:00] same thing happened to me uploaded a new version of the image and it broke [09:12:07] universal issue [09:12:17] i guess just upload it with a completely new name [10:10:48] [1/2] just saw on SN - wiki after reset gets fatal error [10:10:49] [2/2] [10:51:37] Hello. I'm the burocrate of my wiki. If someone publishs something illegal on my wiki, what do i risk? [10:59:38] Per the [[Content Policy]], "Wiki administrators are also expected to know this policy and are responsible for ensuring that their wikis do not fall outside the bounds of these rules. If administrators repeatedly ignore or do nothing about violations of this policy, the wiki in question will be closed." [10:59:38] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy [10:59:39]

[11:04:37] Thanks. I understood. I'm a teacher. i will check what my studend will publish. but i am afraid i can't check all pages. if i lose a page.... [11:05:56] i am worried about someone, not my student, use my wiki as a illegal container [11:07:19] [1/2] if it's not very active wiki you'll be able to overview all edits and uploads in Recent Changes page [11:07:20] [2/2] otherwise I'd suggest to add moderators [11:08:41] [1/2] As long as you remove it as soon as you get aware of it (and depending on the severity inform a steward, so they can take actual legal actions against the specific user, if needed), you should be fine. That said if you don't have time to check most of what get published, you may want to consider getting some more people to help in that regard, giving them the appropiate userrigh [11:08:41] [2/2] ts [11:09:39] perfetc. i understood [11:10:50] ok. i understand. thanks [11:21:01] is it possible to permit registration on my wiki? so i could permit to register only to my student... [11:50:33] I dont know if you can prevent registration, but you can remove editing rights from registered users by default, then only give the rights to your students [11:55:45] [1/2] account registration on Miraheze occurs across all wikis, roughly speaking, so no [11:55:46] [2/2] but as florigon mentioned, you can limit edit right to a custom user group and then add your students manually to it [12:05:43] [1/2] it's worth noting that we don't kill wikis because someone on them did something bad and it wasn't caught within seconds: operators have a reasonable chance to clean things up and we'll just go ahead and deal with whoever posted the offending material. But it seems like giving the right to edit just to people you want on the wiki is the best option anyw [12:05:43] [2/2] ay. [12:21:28] The site crashed [12:21:30] is anyone else getting 502 errors and increased loading times for pages? [12:21:47] Returned [12:21:51] Web [12:22:24] pages are also loading oddly, though i guess that could maybe be a cookie/cache issue? idk [12:23:52] That's right on wifi on data I have nothing [12:24:07] However, the speed is stable on data [13:16:58] great. thanks [13:17:47] thanks for answering me [13:19:14] yes. i agrre with you [13:58:58] please, one more minute. To forbid edit permission i need to edit LocalSettings.php. How can i edit this file? thanks [14:01:50] changes to the core setup can only be done through Special:ManageWiki, local file access is not possible because the core files are shared across wikis [14:02:53] Let me take a look real quick so I can give you a step by step for how to do it through managewiki [14:09:41] thanks. i think i have to uncheck all permission to 'users' group. Then i create a 'students' group. Then i insert every single student in 'students' group. So i give all edit/create permission to 'students' group [14:15:59] it can be done more simply/to avoid issues with what you just described [14:16:11] [[User:Raidarr/Restrict editing to authorized users]] [14:16:11] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Raidarr/Restrict_editing_to_authorized_users [14:16:11]

[14:34:49] Isnt there a per-wiki version of localsettings.php as well? [14:35:35] nothing that end users can change; perhaps there is something like this that sre can elaborate on, but my understanding is that at least a good portion of localsettings and certainly the extension data is shared between wikis [14:37:44] Oh, LocalWiki.php is what im thinking of. Like they added a setting for ExternalData for my wiki on there [14:38:13] But yeah still not user-editable [14:39:08] yeah, there's niche cases like that [14:39:59] I need to go through the whole user end process of miraheze and try to produce some dedicated guides, because I realize what we have going really is a bit of a mess [15:37:43] What kind of tool would I use to mass download from fandom [15:59:56] I mean shared files I suspect is just one part of it, but also security and stability issues could arise from people directly editing those kind of files incorrectly [16:08:30] We can't advise on that [16:08:43] Officially [16:09:17] Ah okay [16:09:36] The person told me I needed a tool to download them and I've never heard of anything that does that from a website lol [16:12:59] yeaaah, fandom prohibits automated image scrapping on legality/copyright ground, but the tools exist [16:13:16] yeah, can't advise on scraping tools because that is against fandom tos: they would rather you take the painstaking manual route [16:14:28] don't think they have any really accessible way to just export them, perhaps someone with direct experience like @Original Authority could advise if there is a preferred way that hasn't come up and is better than one by one [16:28:06] How long does a wiki in "on hold" get out [16:31:02] what do you mean? [16:40:54] the 'on hold' bit is not the key, it's the reason why it was put there [16:41:09] The reason is "On hold pending review from another Wiki creator or Steward." [16:41:13] How long does it usually take [16:42:16] Does anybody know why the images in a gallery are low resolution even tho the image is highres? [16:42:23] And also how to fix it [16:42:58] Depends on the reason for it, and when a WC or steward have time to look at it [16:46:06] How to know the reason for it [16:48:58] Am I allowed to edit the wiki request while it's on hold? [16:50:15] Yes, you can do so [16:51:36] I don't think I'll edit it [16:53:35] Editing it to add more info is a good idea @MeowyCats2 [19:32:19] My thoughts: it’s against Fandom ToU, yeah, but I’ve never seen anyone be phalanxed or anything for it. There are several scripts on Dev Wiki for doing such thing (right under the nose of staff) and I’ve used them to scrape Fandom whilst contracting for them before with no issue. [19:33:45] We're not going to take anything down that users say without a request [19:33:51] (Not that I’m advising doing such things, but the tools are out there) [19:33:59] We just won't tell you ourselves how [19:34:15] the fact it's right on devwiki is amusing and the fact it is really that openly done is also amusing - we still wouldn't formally advise these options since it would seem there is no authorized or encouraged way to get files en masse (not even a ticket to fandom?), but well, here we are [19:34:53] I doubt a ticket would be humored without fandom feeling particularly lenient and only if a wiki is sufficiently 'under the radar' for them to shrug and say why not, if they even have the interest or mechanism to provide a file dump [19:35:33] We do not agree with fandom's stupidity and we aren't going to stop anyone avoiding it. Miraheze SRE just won't advise or assist. [19:35:45] Fandom have outright said no [19:35:50] I’m not sure if they’d do it if you asked via a ticket. From what I’ve seen in WikiConfig there’s no setting for generating a file dump that I’m aware of. [19:36:00] They won't [19:36:02] it would be interesting to find a public post to this effect for formal reference [19:36:18] I spoke to one of their staff a while ago [19:36:24] my hypothetical is a big stretch and I'd be surprised if someone saw success even in the narrow niche where they might just be cooperative [19:36:33] He was a pain, I think he parted ways with them [19:36:50] Sounds about right for 90% of their staff. [19:36:53] Their wiki retention tactics are blatantly shit [19:37:24] their business model is quite understood [19:37:41] They seem to be investing more into indie games and the gaming vertical now, from what I saw from some leaked connect docs. Probably because of wiki.gg [19:37:47] though I've heard them being somewhat cooperative in certain requests when you get the right staff member and again, the wiki being obscure enough that they just don't care [19:38:07] They are narrowing themselves [19:38:26] Depends on your wiki manager then [19:40:50] iirc this is on wikis too small to even have a direct overseer [19:41:33] and now that I think of it probably wikis they'd just terminate if they came across it themselves anyway [19:49:13] can you remind me what's the dev wiki script again, I always forget about it [19:53:05] has anyone worked with namespace-aware module code, like implementing at the module level? it seems to expect to only be called from templates [20:06:04] Referring to this one? https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/DownloadImages [20:08:05] thanks <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [20:13:49] How would i go about installing the Cosmos skin? Can only figure out how to choose between the defaults [20:17:30] Aha, i figured it out. Thanks 🦆 [20:18:27] Yep, once that's done, it can also be set as global default for the wiki via Additional Settings -> Styling [21:15:09] Is it possible to edit the text in the sites footer? [22:32:42] I'll help 10 people to earn $40k within 72 hours but you will pay me 10% of your profit when you receive it. Note only interested people should apply, drop a message let's get started by asking (HOW) [22:33:52] It's that spam time again. [22:37:32] @Discord Moderators spam 2 up^ [22:38:33] Got it [22:57:03] I wonder how it would go to set up an rfc to just do away with all current foot and kid focused wikis on miraheze; not under any current clause, just under a general understanding that those wikis are completely weird and undesirable to platform image in the same vein that reception wikis have been locked out of new creations