[00:31:35] You're welcome, and good luck! [03:44:01] [1/2] Hi, how can I add an Infobox in Visual Editor mode ? [03:44:01] [2/2] I added TemplateData extension what do I do next ? [03:55:45] When I click Insert Template and search Infobox I see nothing [04:00:10] Infoboxes aren't included in MediaWiki by default. Have you already coded an infobox or gotten the code for one from Wikipedia or a Fandom wiki using PortableInfobox? [04:10:01] No, I have not had experience with Wiki/ Fandom stuffs before [04:13:34] How can I get search results like this ? [05:47:54] Hi, I have a question - is there a way, for a private wiki to create some sort of subspace or something like that and allow 2 users to just be able to see that subspace and not other parts of the wiki? [05:49:58] To allow only certain users, no, but there is a way to allow certain pages to be publicly viewable. [06:20:43] a little bit disappointing, I'll give them access to whole wiki then [06:27:30] [1/2] That's depending on search engine used by the hosting service [06:27:30] [2/2] MH one is a really basic and kinda dumb in term of searching [06:58:29] Hey there, so I just recently had my wiki reset and now I’m getting this error—only when I try to access the main page, every other page I try seems to be fine [06:58:57] Should I put in a separate phabricator request to get a fix for this? [08:20:06] yes [13:21:25] <_AR1A#9993> Did I do this wrong? [13:21:33] <_AR1A#9993> I'm trying to assign it to headers [13:24:33] what exactly you want to assign, the font? you gotta define it in h2, there's just margin [13:25:09] `font-family: ...` [13:25:20] also the font is uploaded on wiki? [13:32:12] <_AR1A#9993> No [13:32:17] <_AR1A#9993> How do I upload it to the wiki [13:32:21] <_AR1A#9993> Isn’t it not valid? [13:48:09] <_AR1A#9993> Never mind I found out how [13:54:00] wait wait [13:54:09] it's more complicated then [13:54:48] [1/2] where are you getting the font then, from another site? [13:54:48] [2/2] it should be `@import` [13:55:19] I know it works w/ Google Fonts, but idk about another places [13:56:05] if you're uploading font on wiki it shouldn't breach copyrights, because fonts are mostly payed [13:56:56] only free to use or done by yourself from scratch are allowed, basically [14:04:59] <_AR1A#9993> @Legroom Is this alright? [14:24:29] I found a image that isn't updating properly (for me) [16:05:26] May I have help with something? Not sure if it's an issue on my end, but I recently requested my wiki to have it's subdomain changed, but now I am no longer able to log into that wiki, though I can log into other Miraheze wikis. I'm just presented with the mesage "No active login attempt is in progress for your session." If anyone knows what's wrong that'd be helpful. [16:21:20] I have researched into the issue and all I could find were phabricator requests which had never been resolved. If there is a known resolution to the issue now, do let me know. [16:34:18] Previous solutions have been to clear browsing data such as Cookies, but doing this has not had any effect. [17:09:26] general question - if the wiki is fully private small worldbuilding project, can it contain copyrighted images? If no, am I limited in my use of AI generated images? [17:20:55] You would want to justify under fair dealing, but in general we are unbothered by reasonable uses on private creative projects [17:22:43] Fully clearing cookies/cache for the domain is the usual answer, if that does not work you may wish to initiate a phab ticket including the wiki, error and current steps taken [17:23:06] alright, good to know, thanks [17:24:43] [1/2] Ok, I’ll create a phabricator task [17:24:44] [2/2] If there is no solution, I’ll probably ask if I could get the wiki deleted and re-created (there has been no edits on the wiki so far, it was brand new) [17:25:45] [1/2] If the purge option does not do it you may be experiencing this, which I have not seen a clear resolution for yet [17:25:45] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1100754698295857152 [17:26:25] If it's a wiki issue it should be resolvable after sre inspects the wiki [17:27:32] Could be a serious account issue but that is rare, overwhelmingly it's a cache local issue [17:28:12] You may consider checking with another browser to be sure [17:57:25] [1/3] I’m very sure it’s a Wiki issue [17:57:26] [2/3] I’ve tried multiple browsers and it still won’t let me log in [17:57:26] [3/3] But I can log in to other wikis on Miraheze [18:08:15] changing the resolution of file from 900px to 902px fixed [18:56:52] [1/5] Recently had my wiki's subdomain changed, but we're experiencing 3 problems: [18:56:52] [2/5] 1) Login isn't working, "No active login attempt is in progress for your session" [18:56:52] [3/5] 2) A few extensions are not working, like Templatestyles (but this case is weird because it works on the Template namespace but not the Main namespace) [18:56:53] [4/5] 3) All images are not loading [18:56:53] [5/5] Problem 1 is already talked about above this post so I'm not too concerned about it, but for 2 and 3, I tried purging pages but nothing is updating. Should I just wait longer for things to catch up (since I also requested a database name change) or is this something I can manually fix? [19:00:32] None of them are normal [19:01:01] Extensions don't go weird [19:01:05] Images don't disappear [19:01:14] And logins should fix on a cookie clear [19:05:26] hey RhinosF1 [19:05:40] Hey dmehus [19:05:44] What you doing here [19:05:58] I'm trying to be more active again :P [19:07:04] speaking of cookies, I watched the Google I/O webcast and learned a bit more about the planned deprecation of third-party cookies in Google Chrome, so wondered if we have an omnibus Phabricator task to plan for that eventuality? I imagine Wikimedia is planning for that with Miraheze [19:07:51] No we don't [19:07:59] And tbh no they aren't planning [19:08:07] There is no solution yet [19:08:52] ah [19:10:03] The entire login system needs a complete new concept [19:10:12] It's not going to be something we do overnight [19:10:45] problem 1 I would be somewhat worried about because I see no reason why the user would not be able to log in and unless the cache was cleared wrong then I see no reason why login would break around a particular wiki [19:11:34] 2 could be handwavable wonkiness related to how long the extension was enabled or how it was configured but 3 I want to hear more about because nobody from sre has formally commented on the thumbnail issue which clearly has a wide effect [19:11:53] in general there are weird load issues that haven't been ironed out, but that's all outside my domain to competently troubleshoot [19:12:13] RhinosF1, yeah, agreed [19:13:26] dmehus: it would fix the issues around FIDO auth too [19:13:35] Maybe they could add support for passkeys too [19:13:41] The passkey stuff is cool [19:15:55] RhinosF1, yeah. I like the idea of passkeys and particularly like how Google does not consider submitting scans of photo identification to be valid forms of identity validation...I wish Canadian banks and credit unions would adopt that philosophy and also stop using SMS messages as a two-factor authentication mechanism [19:16:54] dmehus: the 1st has nothing to do with passkeys but a photo alone is not, yes [19:17:07] The 2nd: SMS is not a safe 2FA factor [19:17:16] Banks need to really stop that anyway [19:17:30] Especially when they don't even remove old phone numbers properly [19:17:38] * cough * TSB * cough * [19:18:01] Passkeys are an amazing concept I'm happy to discuss in #miraheze-offtopic [19:30:03] hi everyone! [19:30:43] hm, i missed discord [19:49:58] yeah we tried clearing cache and cookies and nothing still works [19:51:26] [1/3] Regarding images, attempting to open the image sends you to a page that says: [19:51:27] [2/3] # Unauthorized [19:51:27] [3/3] This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document you requested. [19:51:41] oh, markdown doesn't work here, but the unauthorized is a header [19:52:55] I'm going to try uploading an image, actually [19:53:41] Image uploaded, also results in Unauthorized message [20:03:32] huh dmehus is back [20:07:08] well part of this is the fact that images do not load without a valid member login session attached as part of the security of private wikis [20:07:23] if images do not display on-wiki while logged in, that is an issue [20:07:26] i still use sms verification for somethings 😭 [20:07:41] I guess sms beats nothing but yeah, it's not particularly secure [20:07:47] If you have the option, don't [20:07:56] It's mildly better than nothing [20:08:05] FIDO based auth is best [20:08:19] You don't even need a password with FIDO keys [20:08:47] Using the new passkey tech [20:11:34] That's the problem; I'm logged in, and the wiki is public [20:11:37] i only use it for roblox and discord (in which i really should move those to 2fa apps but o well) [20:11:51] Should I report my problems to Phabricator, or are there already tasks there regarding my issues? [20:12:16] Phabricator [20:22:23] @Fiddlestix#9401, heh yes, hey :) [20:23:26] RhinosF1: 💯 agree on banks needing to stop using SMS for 2FA. Really frustrating! I'm to the point that government needs to legislate two-factor authentication requirements for online banking [20:24:11] dmehus: my bank refuse to even get my phone number for 3D secure correct [20:24:24] They have my current one and an old one [20:24:27] Both showing [20:24:30] oh, wow [20:24:51] dmehus: I've pursued a formal complaint against them [20:25:06] They failed to respond to my initial complaint [20:25:48] So I've asked them via the ombudsman to correct the error [20:25:59] And provide a full explanation [20:26:04] RhinosF1: that's good. at least my bank hasn't mandated SMS verification, yet, but if they did, I'd likely do the same. I figure no 2FA is better than SMS verification [20:26:29] dmehus: not getting my phone number right is illegal [20:27:00] Or at least, I've accused them of a breach of data protection law [20:27:02] RhinosF1, that's true, yeah, they would seem to be contravening the UK Data Protection Act [20:27:57] dmehus: Section 46 of the Data Protection Act 2017 [20:27:59] 2018* [20:28:05] I can't see an Earthly need for them to retain your outdated phone number on your active customer profile. If they need to retain it within their historical records or logs, that's a different story [20:28:11] RhinosF1: ah [20:28:13] https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2018/12/section/46/enacted [20:28:48] 1)The controller must, if so requested by a data subject, rectify without undue delay inaccurate personal data relating to the data subject. [20:29:01] yep, my interpretation is the same as yours [20:29:21] I've asked them explicitly within the complaint to explain how they are complying with the DPA [20:30:23] dmehus: I've also warned them that if they don't correct the data and provide a full response that I will refer them to the regulator [20:30:52] They failed to even admit for a while that it was wrong [20:31:15] Eventually they did [20:31:29] First step is settling them complaint with the ombudsman [20:32:03] Once the complaint is settled, I'll decide if I believe the response as a whole failed to comply with the DPA and if the complaint is exhausted [20:47:49] As a Dane it is so hillarious seeing such a clearly Danish (or at least Scandinavian) word as "ombudsman" weaved into the middle of an english conversation. I don't even know how it would be pronounced as part of english, as the way I would say it, it has some clear danish language features xD [20:49:33] Om buds man [20:49:45] It's an independent mediator [20:50:19] @Gummiel what's the word mean in Danish ? [20:52:50] Pretty sure its meaning is the same. Just how to pronounce it with english language I have no idea about. Particularly the d is almost silent in Danish [20:55:42] Same here [20:55:51] Om bus man [21:14:14] I think in Russian all letters are pronounced [21:49:21] [1/2] Hey, fellas. I have a question about policy. I am looking to upload images of various pathologies and would like to use examples from journals that I can take snapshots with on my phone or use from Google images. The little box asks if this is your content and I am conflicted about what this means. I would like to know if it is okay to make references like this on a wiki page. [21:49:21] [2/2] Thanks! [21:54:45] If the content is licensed under a public license, falls under fair use, or you have explicit permission to upload, you should be fine, but remember to give credit to the creator of the original content [21:55:27] So probably cool as long as there is a references page, I'd suspect? [22:25:21] For any global policy violations, you'll usually receive a warning [22:25:42] Awesome! I'll do my best. [22:33:33] at least have a link to the source of the image in file's description [22:33:53] or info, like if it's from book, etc [22:53:54] hey can anyone give me a warning template? [23:35:43] Here's one that I made in a few minutes: https://tali64.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Warning [23:36:15] thanks, how do i import it? [23:37:06] Use Special:Export to export the template and Special:Import on your wiki to import it there [23:37:12] thanks