[00:17:08] What kind of IP-based rate limits does the `(autoconfirmed)` permission exempt users from? And how do they differ from rate limits that the `(noratelimit)` permission exempts them from? [01:08:05] What is code of conduct and content policy [01:48:42] Hi [03:48:15] [[Code of Conduct]] [03:48:15] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Code_of_Conduct [03:48:16]

[03:48:18] [[Content Policy]] [03:48:18] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy [03:48:18]

[06:14:02] I have an odd question. Is it possible to get the Vector2022 search result suggestions to display in Vector (old)? [06:18:53] The search box is a big improvement, showing the short descriptions. Most everything else about Vector2022 is objectively bad. [06:19:43] It isn't supported by itself, but technically it might be possible with some hooks, JS, and an insane amount of work and code duplication to basically copy the Codex search, to hook it into Vector. I don't think it is necessarily feasible... [06:20:43] Honestly it might be easier to hack it into Vector itself. If they accept PRs. [06:21:09] I mean, I can always use Javascript. Javascript is like violence: if it's not working, use more. [06:21:36] Other skins support something similar to it also. Cosmos, Citizen, and Snap! are the ones I know of... [06:21:46] javascript is like violence: it is not the answer. it it a question. the answer is yes [06:22:55] Ah, other skins. Now that's an interesting idea. I'm thinking about All The Tropes here so I'd obviously need to get to buy in before changing things. [06:23:29] Could on gerrit if they merged it, but it is unlikely since legacy vector isn't as much actively maintained anymore, and if it were to interfere or make harder the development of vector-2022 they would not merge it. [06:26:57] Honestly, how do other people like Vector2022? I mean, yes, it is far more responsive, but it really deemphasizes the content of the page, and gives a lot more attention to page controls. [06:27:41] a lot of people hated Vector 2022 when it was introduced [06:28:07] I like it for administrative purposes but from a reader standpoint it is not my favorite but I also don't hold a huge grudge against it. [06:28:23] I meant that in the sense of "how do people find it" not that it was impossible to like [06:28:23] I like it on mobile. [06:30:38] As of MediaWiki 1.41 is becomes the official skin of MediaWiki also [06:30:47] I think it can actually look pretty nice with a bit of customization work put in, though it probably won't be what I test out for my next wiki [06:31:09] I noticed mediawiki.org turned off the sticky headers, though. [06:41:00] I am thinking of making an extension to make codex search universal across skins if that is even possible... but it might be... [06:42:03] Skin:Citizen is nice. It's funny, because I tend to like more cluttered interfaces, but for some reason that one seemed easy to find things. [06:44:08] Anyway I am gonna go for a bit ping me if needed, but I will look and see if it is even possible to bring the Codex/Vue search universally tomorrow... [06:44:46] I assume there'd have to be front-end support, but of course extensions can inject things into the front end. [06:44:53] Okay, thanks for chatting. [06:45:49] Yep, it might be able to just override the search by the #searchInput or #simpleSearch elements [06:46:46] is it Miraheze Meta wiki question? [06:47:27] It's a standard MediaWiki question. [06:52:41] Vector 2022 was good for a while until they messed with the side bars [06:56:41] Depends on config [10:29:31] any updates on logout bug? [10:30:03] I think I get logged out once in a week-two [10:32:37] Good question... I get logged out nearly every day, really hurts my motivation to do CVT work, was going to do some things the other day both Meta sysop and GS stuff, but I got logged out, and it takes so long to log in with 2FA + slow CA, and sometimes 504s it hurts motivation to actually log in just to get logged out the next day... [10:35:52] I do log in when something absolutely needs done, but it definitely hurts motivation to do things... [10:37:33] wow! [10:37:38] cosmic alphw [10:38:09] huh? [10:38:15] he's rich lol [10:38:29] boost ridden 😄 [10:39:47] Oh lol [10:45:01] hey there, where are the staff? [10:45:23] i requested to rename my account as The Harvett Vault globally a few days ago [10:45:37] can anyone please accept it? [10:47:20] [1/2] first - there's no "staff", Miraheze is made of volunteers. [10:47:21] [2/2] second - where do you left the request? [10:47:37] i mean steward [10:47:55] on stewards' noticeboard? [10:48:12] i used Special:GlobalRenameUser [10:50:35] ^^ * Special:GlobalRenameRequest [10:55:30] at once but i'm still waiting [10:55:44] HarvettFox96: even the Stewards are volunteers, please be patient [10:55:53] whatever [11:03:29] Not a member of the Miraheze team, but I feel obliged to say that I think you might be being a bit too rude there, Harvett [11:04:00] they left [11:04:05] Bruh [11:04:08] Nvm then [11:04:43] But I agree yeah, they left immediately after their last message. [11:05:10] But yeah I disagree with Harvett's actions here. The team already do so much already, shouldn't be hounded for not renaming a single account [12:02:29] funny thing is I was going to do that rather early this morning [12:02:42] well, what's a few more minutes until I look at another japanese wikipedia [13:49:45] @Site Reliability Engineers db121 seems to be down again [14:00:42] looking now [14:01:10] Fixed [15:11:12] out of curiosity, do we still need [[Requests for Comment/Premium offerings (in-house proposal)]] as a draft proposal? [15:11:12] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Premium_offerings_(in-house_proposal) [15:11:13]

[15:11:23] the other WikiForge proposal was approved so this seems unnecessart [15:11:35] "My cell phone was stolen so I have to give this a more in-depth look when I am back on track, I haven't even gotten my number yet. To revise and move it into voting is my intention, since this was suppossed to be concurrent with the other proposal but global admins didn't merge it as an alternative voting despite my request. --NimoStar (talk) 15:42, 7 May 2023 (UTC)" [15:11:48] Maybe you can ask NimoStar directly whether he still wishes to proceed [15:11:58] will do, missed that comment [15:12:01] thank you! [22:52:43] [1/5] I've added a background image to my wiki on Mediawiki:Common.css, and I'm trying to get the page to become slightly transparent so the image can show through. I tried the following CSS (on the same page) but it didn't work: [22:52:43] [2/5] .page { [22:52:44] [3/5] opacity: 0.8; [22:52:44] [4/5] } [22:52:44] [5/5] Help! [23:24:20] not sure where you got .page, because .page__main looks to be more along the lines of what you want. also you probably dont want to use "opacity" because that will also make the text and images semi-transparent, which i expect you dont want to do. try just modifying the background color to be semi transparent perhaps [23:25:35] Ok. What would the CSS for that look like? (I'm not a CSS genius... 🙃) [23:27:20] oof sorry, just realized i am not in the server i thought i was in [23:29:36] I can make an attempt at assisting, is this a public wiki? [23:30:25] Yes. https://fara.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [23:30:39] [1/5] maybe try [23:30:39] [2/5] ```css [23:30:39] [3/5] .mw-content { [23:30:40] [4/5] background: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.9) [23:30:40] [5/5] }``` [23:30:43] or whatever you want your opacity of it to be [23:31:24] ah, this skin doesnt have mw-content [23:31:32] probs best for me to stop out lol [23:31:43] I get the following error: [23:32:08] haha sry. should've mentioned what skin im using [23:32:33] truly the bane of my existence apparently given that ive given u the wrong class twice now [23:32:42] This is for the vector(2022) skin default, yes? [23:33:25] yes [23:36:16] Found it, one second [23:36:30] Ok. [23:37:31] [1/3] ```.mw-page-container{ [23:37:31] [2/3] background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0.7); [23:37:31] [3/3] }``` [23:37:37] gives [23:38:55] Wait. I put it in Common.css, but it's not working... [23:39:02] Hrmph. [23:39:09] Common CSS takes a good few minutes to propagate through [23:39:36] Ok. Good to know. [23:39:38] if you want to test things faster, I recommend making changes in your preferences >> Appearance >> custom CSS for the skin your testing [23:39:55] Changes made there are generally near-instantaneous [23:40:04] Ok, got it. [23:40:38] It works now! Thank you so much! I'm honestly so terrible at CSS. 😅 [23:41:10] One more question, while you're here. 🙂 [23:41:15] does anyone know why an image in an infobox built with infoboxbuilder doesnt show up on hover (i dont remember the module/extension name, sorry)? [23:41:27] Nooo worries. The whole wiki thing definitely upped my proficiency w/ CSS well beyond where I started. [23:42:11] How would I change the "sidebar" width. (The area where the BG image is completely visible) [23:43:16] That's complicated as I recall, as Vector2022 is big on dynamic scaling and a pain in the butt to override. One of our more savvy CSS volunteers might have other ideas. [23:43:41] Ok... How would I go about contacting them? [23:44:41] If you create a thread in the #support forum, your question is less likely to get buried. Our most knowledgeable folks are scattered globally but do try to keep an eye on new threads there. [23:45:30] Ok. Thanks! How long does it usually take to get a response? [23:46:07] It varies, usually someone answers within a day or less on simpler issues if an answer is known and you provide enough context for what you're trying to do. [23:46:31] Perfect, thanks! [23:46:36] You've been a big help! [23:46:53] Glad to be of help, wishing you success. [23:48:41] Based on the description given, I think you're either talking about the preview image for links on discord and elsewhere playing badly with WikiSEO or something with the MultimediaViewer extension, unfortunately both are weak areas in my knowledge so I don't have any leads for you without more context... [23:48:58] Oh, or maybe the popups extension? [23:49:09] i think thats what i mean yeah [23:49:12] ill get a few images, wait [23:50:26] That's unfortunately an extension I haven't touched before, but hopefully others might know more. [23:50:32] infobox vs hover [23:51:01] there is a page where theres an image near the top outside of an infobox, which does appear [23:51:09] Unfortunately it does seem like all the kinds of things Aracham mentioned above, have a hard time picking up pictures and the like in PI's, so you have to usually find some way to force things through, which yeah I only really know how to do for liek 1 or 2 of the things myself [23:51:09] Definitely looks like popups extension then [23:51:50] i see, do you have any suggestions? [23:52:13] I'm planning on doing some extension testing this weekend for our 1.40 upgrade, I'll make a point to play around with popups and PortableInfobox to see if I can gain any insights. [23:52:30] popups is not something I have worked with, so not really [23:52:35] thanks, i appreciate that