[01:38:43] Is there any way I can delete my wiki project? [01:48:36] You can make a request on the Stewards' noticeboard. (https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Stewards%27_noticeboard) [02:37:55] Hey what if there's some kind of big issue then with me not being able to see the changes to my wiki's skins? [02:38:01] also how do i install poncho skin? [02:51:03] Any changes to the sitewide css and js pages (ie Mediawiki:Common.css etc.) will takes a while to propagate, and thus take effect. That is normal [04:02:09] Oh so it’ll be a bit until I can see everything all different then? [04:02:19] Okay, what about the installation of a new skin? [04:35:56] Not sure if I should post this either here or on Phabricator...but I seem to have a persistent notification about something with the Cosmos Wiki. Is there a way to get rid of it? [05:37:16] [1/2] “Would you like to discover how to profit from the cryptocurrency market if YES I’m willing to help 11 people how to earn $47,000 in just 72hours Dm me to know How [05:37:17] [2/2] +1 (919) 408‑2566 [05:38:43] (for IRC) ignore ^ [05:40:37] You can open a Phabricator task or @MediaWiki Engineers might be able to help here [17:55:42] Wait so how does installing a new skin work? [17:55:57] Especially uh poncho, a rejected skin [18:20:04] Is it just me, or is Phabricator not working [18:22:07] @Site Reliability Engineers [18:22:13] It is down [18:22:24] OK then [18:25:53] Looks like /tmp is full [18:25:58] As the disk isn't [18:26:58] paladox: ^ [18:28:10] I’m mobile [18:30:28] DB112 is down I think @Orduin [18:31:41] It’s full. [18:32:21] @paladox database is fine I think [18:32:31] It’s full [18:32:34] I think it must be /tmp on the phab121 [18:32:39] It’s not [18:32:46] DB112 is full [18:33:18] How are you getting to that? Out of interest [18:33:28] Grafana and icinga [18:33:29] Oh wait ye [18:34:40] @paladox what happened at 4am 24th? [18:35:00] I’m not sure? [18:35:11] Something made usage increase then [18:36:38] [1/2] you'll have to request Miraheze system admins to review it [18:36:39] [2/2] in most cases extensions/skins are rejected if they're abandoned by their devs [18:40:58] 👀 [18:41:37] Matomo is huge [18:42:17] yeah, not sure how easy this'll be to free up some space [18:50:29] So the rejected skin won't work if I try and install it? [18:52:24] [1/2] there's no way you can install something on Miraheze, it's done by Miraheze sys admins aka SRE [18:52:24] [2/2] Miraheze wiki admins have a set of available, installed extensions to switch on/off on their wikis [18:53:41] I meant with like one's personal miraheze wiki [18:54:02] also got it then, I don't seem to have the stuff I'm wanting though, just a small handful of uh skins [18:54:05] [1/2] Miraheze is a platform [18:54:06] [2/2] what you probably mean is MediaWiki, a software [18:54:30] you can make an independently hosted MediaWiki installation, sure [18:54:45] you need server, money, some tech knowledge and experience [18:57:17] ah okay, probably got that mixed up then, whoops. I did miraheze because mediawiki was too hard to do. [18:57:36] if you are still having problems w/ Timeless and other skins you either misinterpreted something in our instructions or we don't see the full image of your problem [18:58:15] actually the wiki changed now [18:58:29] i guess I was changing it too much or soemthing. [18:58:41] So yeah I had to wait simply for a change, so whoops. [18:59:13] it always takes some time for wiki to change something big [18:59:29] extensions, CSS/JS, some heavy settings [19:00:27] oh...nothing changed. [19:00:38] I saw the change when I was logged out, but logging back in, it's timeless still. [19:00:53] have you checked your user preferences? [19:01:20] a link would be handy so other user could confirm if it's a bug or something on your end [19:02:28] Yeah sure: https://helixco.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [19:02:51] Also i have, I put the timeless thing on that skip skins thing so I can't see it anymore. [19:03:00] I think it may be a bug or glitch or something. [19:03:42] very interesting ... [19:05:57] which skin is this supposed to be? [19:06:19] at least Vector works w/ `?useskin=` [19:08:11] ah, your wiki is private too, can't see CSS [19:08:17] wait so I can add in a skin like that with CSS? [19:08:19] how so? [19:08:35] this is broken look man [19:08:36] also i think this is nostalgia, [19:08:50] first you gotta sort out skins [19:10:29] Not? [19:10:36] If it's Matomo, you screwed [19:10:38] yeah, I kinda saw and realize it needs a better skin, so I'm deciding rn with either Apex, HassomeColours, Metrolook, MinervaNueve, and Monaco [19:11:05] yeh, SHOW BINARY LOGS; seems to be hanging, but there is a 7GB file I can probably delete [19:11:08] let's try to clean Skip Skin first [19:11:22] just make it empty [19:11:47] uh huh [19:12:12] done, so how does one use CSS exactly? [19:12:25] to like fully do the desired skins? [19:12:44] dude [19:13:51] what, I cleaned out the skip skin already. [19:14:04] head to your user preferences and pick the skin which is marked as default [19:15:12] There is none, if you're still referring to skip skins of course. [19:15:45] your user preferences [19:15:51] your wiki profile [19:15:55] personal settings [19:16:34] example [19:17:13] `https://helixco.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering` [19:25:30] Are you able to request multiple extensions at once? [19:27:35] if you mean extensions which aren't installed on Miraheze - I guess each would need its own Phab task, but extension review isn't a fast process as well (especially now w/ low number of SRE volunteers) [19:28:18] Oh dear, Ive been requested to add 60 extensions. This is going to take a while [19:28:29] for example? [19:28:43] maybe they meant enabling it [19:28:44] I think one of them is easy timelines [19:29:05] have you checked admin extensions menu aka Manage this wiki's extensions? [19:29:32] I was told by our admins that a lot of extensions are required just to get certain infoboxes working and other features. [19:30:14] were previously hosted independently? [19:30:18] Literally told none of them are on miraheze; they had wikis of their own before [19:30:25] aha [19:30:54] We managed to work around some things like getting a custom background without using skins [19:31:15] But unfortunately we’re not the best at this [19:31:49] I can't imagine infoboxes this complicated to require dozen on extensions, unless they are trying to imitate Wikipedia's [19:32:10] It’s just what my editors want sadly [19:32:12] and yet Wikipedia uses Lua modules [19:32:18] But we have gotten 99% of them to work [19:33:19] We have hundreds of those already [19:38:21] Hi! How can I import a template/infobox from Wikipedia to my Miraheze wikia? [19:41:24] What's this btw? [19:41:40] also gotcha its a personal skin setting then, which is weird. [19:42:21] which skin is marked as default? [19:42:25] nostalgia [19:43:59] [1/2] it is generally not advised to import infoboxes from Wikipedia because they are very complicated and the process usually leads to problems [19:44:00] [2/2] instead we suggest to build templates w/ PortableInfobox extension (aka the FANDOM/Wikia way of making infoboxes) since it's much easier [19:44:31] pick it and save changes [19:46:13] [1/2] And then this solves the problems? [19:46:14] [2/2] So if it does, you can show me the way of using CSS to put my desired skins? [19:46:51] dude, you gonna have a hard time CSS modding Nostalgia at this point [19:47:27] we need to fix your problem first [19:47:40] which skin you are getting now? [19:47:45] what you see [19:48:40] [1/2] patient is virtue [19:48:40] [2/2] rushing things always leads to a mess [19:49:34] and - CSS is not for setting skins, it's just for modifying their looks, like colors, fonts, background, etc [19:52:24] skin's layout cannot - and shouldn't - be changed via CSS [20:15:20] I don't want to mod nostalgia, I want to change skins for the wiki and I guess myself for when spectating it. [20:15:34] Also nostalgia now. [20:15:53] which means I guess i'm seeing the chosen skin I have to see or something like that? [20:18:31] it is not [20:18:39] it's not all steps [20:19:03] we don't know what you have done w/ skins on your wiki thus we have to check every thing that may affect it [20:19:26] now [20:20:14] I advice you to choose another skin because Nostalgia is really a mess right now [20:20:35] the usual default skins are Vector and Vector 2022 [20:21:01] Timeless seems to be hardcoded in MediaWiki too, so you won't see it in extensions [20:21:44] MinervaNeue is a purely mobile skin which was created as tie-in to MobileFrontend extension, and otherwise it's not a good skin [20:24:25] [1/4] the correct way of setting a skin [20:24:25] [2/4] 1) enable it in extensions/skins [20:24:26] [3/4] 2) in Additional settings admin menu - styling tab, you set which skin is used by wiki by default [20:24:26] [4/4] 3) only after that you can poke the SkipSkin setting [20:24:57] that's all [20:25:51] he personal setting is personal, again - we don't know what have you done w/ settings, you haven't provided us w/ this information so we gone tru every skin related setting to fix your issue [20:27:20] now, sunday is coming to an end for me, good night people [20:28:01] Ah well good night then legroom. [20:28:11] I'll try and see with you again later. [20:28:51] I'll decide to go with Vector since it seems to be the more natural sounding one. [20:31:53] I will then cross out Minervaneue, so there's 4 standing now. [20:38:41] I think I just said it with user preferences to be the thing I wanted it to be, for my personal/side of viewing? Or something? So I guess it is a user preference thing I did for my user when I thought it was for my wiki. [20:38:49] So i guess that's it.