[00:14:04] PageImages is the extension that picks an image to go along with a link, correct? [00:14:20] https://aurorawasteland.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Brightness_Falls [00:15:08] [1/2] I keep getting the default image, despite the page having one. [00:15:09] [2/2] Also, that dot is driving me crazy. I thought it was a home page issue. Is there some sort of site sumary or something I need to fill out? [01:05:20] I'll help 10 people on how to earn 30k or more 72hours from the Crypto Market, but you’ll pay me a 10% of your profit when you receive it. [01:05:35] If you’re interested inbox me for more info on how to start earning. [01:06:06] I I was just about to ping a mod [01:06:09] So fast [01:06:14] Just say no to crypto spammers [01:06:20] Ugh. [01:07:01] On Bookstagram it's always "DM Writer's warmth!" [01:07:04] They're like cockroaches. [02:03:59] I worked with him on some projects in Team Fortress 2 communities. He was permabanned from the official TF2 Wiki for his attitude () back in January this year. He don't belong on Miraheze and the fact he almost killed MH is all the more reason why if he ever appeals, it should be denied IMHO. [03:14:05] ^ :thistbh: [04:43:28] Or basically no to 'crypto' [04:43:52] And oh I lost my shiny red badge /joke [05:18:27] Sounds like you need to buy a doge coin and convert in to nitro. 🙃 [05:18:47] <:not_done:770086540604735498> [05:18:49] TotallyLegitTrader2202 swears by this one cool financial moove. [05:19:13] <:blobno:599839519130517534> [05:20:45] Sounds like [[mw:metawiki:NTSAMR]] lock :-p (I had to go long wikiname to prevent discord emoji-fy [05:20:45] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/metawiki:NTSAMR [05:20:46]

[05:22:52] I appreciate the extra effort. [06:11:38] [1/2] Yes, but users may be out of context if second message is published and first not. [06:11:38] [2/2] It's not big issue, just noticed that someone published day old message by Void. [06:14:31] Absolutely, thanks for additional perspective [08:07:36] Hi all [08:11:42] Hey @skryllz [08:11:46] Anything we can do? [08:12:05] Nothing much atm just waiting to see if my wiki gets approved :). How are you? [08:15:27] Good [08:15:39] That's good 🙂 [08:17:22] It'll be created soon [08:17:58] 🙂 [08:18:24] Excited to try this site out. Fandom is ugly as heck. Idk how ppl use it haha [08:19:56] @Site Reliability Engineers or @Trust and Safety please DM [09:55:56] how can i add build bracket module? [11:30:09] [1/3] hi there [11:30:10] [2/3] planning to migrate an existing wiki or start from scratch? [11:30:10] [3/3] in latter case, be aware that Miraheze doesn't provide a ready set default templates to use like FANDOM [13:20:17] Start a new [13:22:04] How long does the review process normally take? [13:22:40] usually several hours, depends on who is online among volunteers now [13:22:58] volunteers who create wikis I means [13:24:11] Ah I see [13:30:05] make sure to check your request, there might be a comment left by creator [13:33:01] Yea for sure. There isn't any atm [13:53:20] Good morning. Miraheze crew [13:55:16] morning, Cocopuff2018 :) [13:55:25] Hey dmehus coco [13:55:26] hi [13:55:44] any wiki creators online? [13:57:04] Nope [13:57:18] @paladox you around [13:57:35] I got an SRE matter [13:57:37] I am [13:59:34] I'm not sure what you mean by user cache [14:02:15] @RhinosF1 are you moving to New platform or you staying here [14:03:31] Hey @Doug dma [14:03:36] Morning [14:03:37] @Cocopuff2018 I don't actively maintain any wikis [14:06:31] I decided im staying at miraheze i see no point in moving [14:06:41] And restarting a whole new wiki [14:08:33] I just hope miraheze can survive 🙏 [14:13:24] Did miraheze ever fix the double edit extension yet? [14:14:07] the what? [14:14:34] The feature that let's you edit two pages at once [14:14:39] Forgot what it's called [14:19:43] Cocopuff2018, replied [14:20:38] Replied dough [14:21:47] Dough? [14:22:11] got this after clicking on an image on my wiki? [14:22:40] Which file? [14:22:58] wdym? [14:23:44] it displays normally on the main page, but not on the actual character's page [14:25:05] Yes what's the file [14:25:25] Can you link to the File page for it [14:25:59] https://ocverse.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Yohan_Chae_Profile.png [14:26:04] the wiki is private though [14:26:19] and the issue seems to be happening with more than one image [14:27:19] Does mass upload extension work at miraheze? [14:27:56] it displays normally on the file page, so idk what's going on [14:32:16] @paladox ^ [14:32:43] I have a fairly good idea [14:35:54] @MintyBingus does it work now [14:36:55] YES, THANK YOU! [14:37:05] you just had to resave the page (an empty edit) [14:37:12] Had to refresh a couple times but it looks to be working now [14:37:13] ohhhhh [14:37:28] neat, glad it was something with a simple fix [14:37:33] it was not using img_auth rather it was linking to static.m.org but your wiki being private means you have to go via img_auth [14:37:41] it uses a cach. [14:38:50] mhm mhm, noting that down in case i have the issue again in the future [15:13:53] How's everyone's day going [15:15:07] Fairly quiet [15:16:20] good [15:45:28] That's good [16:48:05] @RhinosF1 [16:48:11] Need to talk to you [16:53:28] DM [17:00:38] Boring [17:01:13] Well that's a way if you need to talk to me [17:02:03] Not need anymore. Boring. [17:03:33] bruh [17:08:35] dude [17:08:41] the hell [17:09:46] Worth being respectful that it's into the PM hours for Rhinos, so DM is a perfectly reasonable request when they can't necessarily reply right away. [17:22:39] Any suggestions for CSS template editing? [17:31:46] @Ice Mace this is not the first time you acting snappy here, please communicate in more understandable and respectful manner [17:34:53] Gonna give you a day to cool off, Ice mace. You were asked to be respectful but are frankly acting like a clown. [18:42:01] hello crew [19:11:54] Hey @Cocopuff2018 [19:31:30] yes sir [19:32:44] @Cocopuff2018 you said hi [20:23:52] My wiki keeps putting the vecktor 2022 theme on the Main Page but using my correct theme on other pages why would this happen? [20:25:43] can you try to purge the page (button next to "edit") or clean cash w/ Ctrl+F5 or manually? [20:27:10] That did it @Legroom thank you [20:29:16] np [20:40:34] would that also be the reason why expand/collapse is not working me me rn? [20:42:00] be more specific please [20:45:47] I tohught what was being talked about above was a general bug, my bad, I just did some CSS changes and for some reason my collapsed initially tables are just constantly appearing open [20:45:58] which is somehow my fault but eh [20:47:48] oh nvm I know what I fucked up [20:56:26] oes mediawiki have a limit to how many pages my wiki can [20:58:10] I don't think it's possible to achieve on any wiki on Miraheze [20:58:41] but how much EN Wikipedia has? MediaWiki itself probably doesn't have limita [21:01:57] No. [21:10:02] I mean technically it does [21:10:08] You're not going to reach them though [21:11:51] What’s the maximum then? [21:12:46] 2^48 if using mariadb as a backend [21:12:55] So over 281 trillion [21:12:56] Oh probably the maximum row length. [21:13:19] A MariaDB database can only go up to 256TB too [21:15:24] @Original Authority I think you'll have much bigger problems before you get anywhere near the limits [21:16:46] Thats interesting—surely then there is a limit on how many revisions a wiki can have also then. [21:17:16] Not that anyone is making 281 trillion edits. Maybe Wikipedia one day. [21:17:51] @Original Authority yes it would be somewhat similar [21:18:23] Things would probably break long before 256TB mediawiki [21:18:51] And you'd have to be huge to be able to afford to manage that much data [21:18:56] And have very decent servers [21:19:01] Like a google or Microsoft [21:23:02] how would you know when you hit the limit? [21:23:14] good night fellaa [21:24:37] https://tenor.com/bt0Bu.gif [21:24:52] Know that you wouldn't hit it without trying and employing bots for page creation. [21:25:01] You won't hit it [21:25:26] Things would start acting weird in ways I don't want to think about long before that [21:25:39] And you'd probably be bankrupt paying the bill to host it [21:25:49] Also this. [21:25:59] 😆 [21:26:56] Now I'm thinking about it and wondering what'd happen 😭 [21:27:08] that wont hapen to me [21:27:17] i got plenty of money to pay hosting [21:28:27] im not broke [21:29:41] You'd be talking hundreds of thousands a month [21:29:47] You're not Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos [21:29:49] perhaps you underestimate the cost of performant databases at scale [21:29:54] Nor the US government [21:30:17] So I can assume you can't throw billions of pounds a year at hosting [21:30:30] Allie: massively [21:30:40] i dont think Jimmy Wales is rich [21:30:51] I'm guessing somewhere above a million a year-- [21:31:02] Wikipedia isn't anywhere near 256TB [21:31:27] Rhinos wiki may run out one day [21:32:06] like i said i dout wikipedia is rich [21:32:15] or jimmy Wales [21:36:52] I mean accounts are public for wikimedia [21:38:14] @Cocopuff2018 according to the last set of accounts, they spend about $180 million a year [21:38:20] Across everything [21:38:34] wmf turns over about 200-- yeah [21:38:47] fast databases are hard [21:39:35] About $65 mil on technology according to the form 990 [21:39:50] Allie: databases are hard [21:39:52] In general [21:40:03] databases are easy, sqlite is right there :P [21:40:18] Big Internet Things are hard in general [21:40:39] Allie: yes [21:40:57] Me and MariaDB don't get a long [21:41:16] Well yeah. Wouldn't want a database made up of something like jelly. [21:41:17] I once brought Miraheze down by locking the central auth DB [21:41:26] You what. [21:41:30] Yes [21:41:32] Why? [21:41:43] Bad query [21:42:08] I made a typo creating a column on cw_wikis [21:42:14] Not central auth [21:42:18] It was create wiki [21:42:21] Apologies [21:42:29] Then I tried to rename the column live [21:42:35] ALTER is banned [21:42:36] Apparently that blocked all reads [21:42:40] :D [21:42:43] And was taking a long time to alter [21:42:48] Ah. I imagine if that was Central Auth things would've been even more disastrous-- 😨 [21:42:50] So we kind of failed [21:42:54] Nah [21:43:00] It was easily fixed [21:43:09] I just stopped my alter [21:43:19] Which released the lock [21:43:34] You just got a database error trying to browse any wiki for a few minutes [21:43:56] Allie: yes I'm not altering live again without a better plan [21:44:08] Ever [21:57:27] u ever hosted a self hosted wiki @RhinosF1 [21:57:56] No [21:58:17] Well I've hosted one on toolforge [21:58:20] For ZppixBot [21:58:37] But not for long [21:58:46] That was barely used though [21:59:00] Hosting a few thousand of them was enough [21:59:24] did f1 ever host a wiki farm [22:01:55] Yes. Miraheze. [22:02:02] I've been SRE twice [22:02:09] you did not build it [22:02:29] No individual did [22:02:45] But it's whole deployment architecture was based on one of my dreams [22:03:03] Or maybe nightmares [22:03:07] Depends who you ask [23:12:01] How would I go on making that table not go out bounds and instead have a overflow x scroll bar appear if too many collapsed elements are opened, thinking about making a class for it but I can't figure out why its not appearing/going out of bounds [23:17:24] `overflow-x: scroll` [23:18:15] Is there a plug-in or something that brings over template and modules from Wikipedia/Wikimedia? [23:18:26] RIght now, it seems I would have to copy stuff over by hand. [23:19:26]