[00:01:21] @tombricks#0000, you need to add an interwiki prefix for your Miraheze subdomain on your non-Miraheze wiki [00:02:25] For example, if your wiki was `mywiki.miraheze.org`, you would add `https://mywiki.miraheze.org/wiki/$1` with the prefix of, say, `mywiki`. Forward and transclusion flags are not needed just to import edits and link to the source wiki in the page history [00:03:08] If you're referring to the "Interwiki prefix" field you find in the Special:Import page, that can be anything; it's added to the front of the username field in edits that you import. You can use "MH" as the prefix to signify that the edits came from Miraheze. [00:03:55] The interwiki prefix is used in place of account names, because you're importing to a wiki that uses a different account system. Thus, they won't be linked to a userpage when imported. [00:04:11] Edits made by unregistered users (IP addresses) are not affected and won't have the interwiki prefix. [00:04:11] Yeah, that's true, but if there's no prefix set up in Special:Interwiki, there will be no link to the source wiki. It'll just show up as "MH>User:Username" [00:29:50] @dmehus CHECK DMS [00:34:05] Hi [00:37:18] so far, is the last ditch recruitment effort going good? [00:38:11] Cocopuff2018, ok will do [00:41:25] i replied @dmehus [00:42:59] ok [00:50:55] we're safe from shutdown for the moment [00:52:17] :aubrey_cry: [00:55:45] That's right. Everything is fine for the time being, and there's no need to panic, but, of course, it's always a good idea to generate XML dumps and request image dumps periodically and have a contingency plan in place :) [00:57:50] how long does it usuall ytake for a datadump to process [01:06:14] it has to wait for any dumps before it to finish and then takes a varying amount of time depending on the wiki size [01:06:44] xml dump are usually pretty quick, image dumps tend to take a bit longer [01:13:49] Hey dmehus, seeing as there remains folks still uneasy due to the past tweets made by former SRE that icited a bit of panic; could those be deleted and a reassurance tweet published? [01:14:22] not sure who has access to twitter [01:14:34] not dmehus [01:14:45] at this point only me and void have access [01:15:23] ok, could you please erase the ones that still is causing alarm for now> [01:16:00] probably may as well post the current update, that should calm fears [01:28:34] m3w#0000, I don't know which posts you mean, but they're not pinned. I doubt many new users scroll back very far when they join :) [01:29:51] It's so joever [01:32:05] [1/5] Hi, [01:32:05] [2/5] Five days ago I put in a data import request to migrate my wiki to MH from Fandom. After that I saw the announcement that MH would shut down, and then the announcement that they are probably not shutting down. Given the current uncertainty, I have decided I don't want to migrate to MH at this time. I will likely reconsider in 1-2 years if MH is still up and runn [01:32:06] [3/5] ing. [01:32:06] [4/5] The import request says it is still "pending." [01:32:06] [5/5] Is there any way to cancel this request to avoid wasting the stewards' time? I set the wiki itself (which has no content) to "closed." [01:42:13] I would have to say the tweets from June 8 and 15. Probably to quote tweet june 15 initial and clarify that a potential rescue plan is being finalized. [01:45:37] m3w#0000, oh you mean MacFan4000's tweets? [01:46:30] Those could probably be deleted from the Miraheze Twitter, and deleted on Discord, sure, but IRC doesn't allow us to delete them [01:46:35] To those on IRC: If a Discord user appears to have the discriminator #0000, then they actually have a username under the new pomelo system with no discriminator. [01:46:59] yep ^ thanks for pointing that out, halian_#0000 [01:47:35] \:| [01:48:07] The bot code was updated to remove the discriminators, just needs to be deployed [01:48:19] ^ [01:52:05] Note we still need to include the discriminator of `#0000` on the IRC side for the ping to come through [01:53:03] it says queued for me [01:53:53] I don't see any pings above o.o [01:54:37] Is it ture that miraheze is shutting down? [01:54:54] not "cardi tanked" HELP 😭 [01:55:16] yes, might be a good idea potentially [01:55:18] I said what I said 🤷‍♀️ Cardi tanked [01:55:40] im tryna get my data dump so i can use my miraheze wiki on fandom :/ [01:56:00] Anyway, is it true that Miraheze is shutting down? [01:56:06] once you go to fandom, they will keep a copy if you ever want to leave again [01:56:17] It is not definitely shutting down yet, there is a community plan still in discussions to transfer ownership [01:56:32] Okay, thank you [01:56:51] More info [01:56:53] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_is_Not_Shutting_Down [01:56:53] i already have a fandom wiki but i just stole all my templates from other wikis [01:57:11] Thank you [01:57:18] i finally got the hang of using infobox builder [01:57:34] and now i dont have to ask 24/7 in #support because the template i imported from wikipedia has errors <:droidcry:1072716372137758740> [02:07:57] You can put reasonable restrictions on them then. Custom domain only, no anonymous editing, for example. Or something else like that. The censorship is not needed. [02:25:35] Thanks. As said earlier, time and venue for this debate is not now and here. 🙂 [02:25:54] Policy changes are not on the menu for quite some time. [02:28:17] The world is saved [02:28:33] If the world is miraheze [02:59:31] Ok guys so what's the plan [02:59:47] as it stands, in terms of like what's changed or developed over the past 7ish hours [03:01:41] are there any new staff.,,? like is miraheze not in eminent danger of being exploded or are we just debating banning random wikis for the hell of it [03:08:23] @talthiel@paulkitty have you seen the pins? [03:08:50] no [03:09:27] yes [03:09:45] I saw some developments like 9 hours ago and then had to focus on my work [03:10:35] [1/3] Paul, please check the pins [03:10:36] [2/3] Talthiel, if something significant does happen then it will get pinned. if nothing in pins then nothing. [03:10:36] [3/3] only thing now is we have cookmeplox from Runescape wiki trying to do a deep dive on infrastructure [03:10:40] we maybe figured out the source of all of the infrastructure issues [03:10:50] but that's about it. i wouldn't expect things to change multiple times a day [03:11:55] i mostly just wanted to know if miraheze was going away. it seems like its not? is that the case? should i still be trying to leave? the way this feels all unstable makes me very stressed [03:15:35] Have you read https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_is_Not_Shutting_Down ? [03:15:59] That's the most relevant thing. There is stable leadership committed to keeping it running [03:16:15] The communication over the last few days has been very herky-jerky but there's not going to be any more of that [03:17:09] i did,,, >_<;;; yea like u said its kinda. back and forth unclear so i just want confirmation i read it correctly,, [03:17:48] Ok [03:17:59] So Miraheze aint going no wherw [03:19:07] We do not have a ton of concrete details yet. We are asking the community to please be patient with us, but theres no need to panic, and you can safely (at this point) stay here on Miraheze with your wikis [03:23:22] [1/2] Additionally, a personal note from myself, I understand alot of you are trying to help come up with ideas for changes, however, we are not at a point where we are even ready to begin even entertaining the idea of changing community-facing policies at this moment. Right now the focus is on structuring, and such. We ask that people avoid jumping ahead of us and attempting to discuss [03:23:22] [2/2] at length any community-facing changes at this moment, because while it may sound productive, it just slows us down from discussing and figuring out the first steps. Remember you can’t run before you learn to walk. [03:24:27] please pin this 🙂 [03:25:07] I can’t nor is it pin worthy I basically summarized whats onwiki and added a personal note of mine [03:27:22] they should put the pinned link in #announcements and clarify that miraheze is actually not exploding and dying [03:28:04] because. the announcements are very scary and are more visible than the more current pins in general [03:30:19] @orduin if you are still awake can you ^ [03:35:04] Yeah, exactly this. I didn't even know Miraheze had NSFW until I got into an NSFW game with a wiki on Miraheze. [04:25:08] as has been said, let's hold off on discussing that until later. pointless until the org is incorporated in US [04:26:40] sorry about that, hadn't seen the later bits of the convo until after i sent my message [04:40:57] <.labster#0000> I kind of want to discuss NSFW, but I know I shouldn't because I have absolutely nothing concrete to say. [04:41:28] <:squint:755498402346827946> [04:41:35] Come back when you have something concrete to say! [04:41:41] we don't need to get general riled up <:EyesEmoji:980231120530591825> [04:41:56] <.labster#0000> NDKilla is preparing cement shoes for me [04:42:06] No I'm preparing the timeouts but im going to bed soon lmao [04:42:14] I WILL TIME OUT ANYONE BESIDES LABSTER THAT BRINGS IT UP [04:42:18] [04:42:20] <.labster#0000> hahaaha [04:43:11] <.labster#0000> In any case you should take that as a meaning that I have decided nothing on NSFW policy, and I'm not even ready to have that discussion. So NDK can safely go to bed. [04:43:26] aight end of discussion perfect [04:43:50] So as the discord manager I can just arbitrarily make labster a discord mod right? [04:43:51] <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [04:44:18] (on a slightlyyyyy more serious note, i was trying to find if we had an official policy on discord mods earlier, and couldn't find one?) [04:45:13] <.labster#0000> If you're being arbitrary you have to go to ArbCom first. [04:45:25] we disbanded arbcom in like 2013 [04:46:39] <.labster#0000> If you feel it would be helpful for me to be a mod, go ahead. [04:48:12] Thought we had rules on elections [04:49:03] I am pretty sure we do and thats why i was looking earlier because there's ongoing elections right now [04:49:10] but i could not find anything officially documenting it??? [04:49:33] Yeah, I think [[Discord/RfC 2]] passed and then no offical documentation was made, rip [04:49:33] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Discord/RfC_2 [04:49:34]

[04:51:35] There are some going on in #elections right now, but we can always do access differently as needed [04:53:01] [1/4] tl;dr [04:53:01] [2/4] > a request must stay open for at least seven (7) days. During this period anyone from the Community may comment on a candidate's request. This request will be listed in a dedicated channel on Discord for awareness. [04:53:01] [3/4] > [04:53:02] [4/4] > A request will be deemed successful when closed by a Discord Administrator after having achieved a 70% support ratio. [05:02:10] [1/2] at this point, does it really even matter considering the few number of staff remaining? is it worthwhile to still follow procedures when its probably not possible, especially in this type of situation. [05:02:10] [2/2] that said, if Labster can be trusted to moderate then go for it [05:02:48] I imagine a good chuck will be revisited and altered at later time [05:03:20] Uh yes it does [05:03:42] Just because theres no police around doesnt mean you should rob a bank does it? [05:04:10] the thing is, Labster is going to be the new org director anyways... [05:04:18] As well I [05:04:30] ik [05:04:40] on that notion, do you or labster have twitter handles? [05:04:42] Doesn’t mean procedures don’t need to be followed [05:04:49] I do [05:05:03] Dont really use it though [05:05:07] ah [05:05:43] wasn't to undermine procedures but if going to be org director, do we really need to wait for formalities to promote both of you? [05:06:21] That would be the very definition of undermining procedures, why should we expect the community to follow policy if we choose not to? [05:07:09] I mean it would be pending... [05:07:59] Theres a right way and a wrong way to do things [05:09:00] as you wish, just thought there really wouldn't be much of a difference [05:09:56] [1/3] Hello, I hope this is an okay place to ask. I'm interested in volunteering for Miraheze. I don't have much experience with Miraheze specifically, but I've been contributing to wikis for a long time (mostly Fanlore and Wikipedia), and have some experience coordinating volunteer efforts (mostly offline). I also have a lot of free time for the next month, and it sounds like you g [05:09:57] [2/3] uys could use some hands. [05:09:57] [3/3] I've been poking around meta.miraheze and backreading this channel, and I understand things are really in flux right now, but is there anything in particular I should be doing to get the lay of the land, or figuring out how I can help? [05:16:48] [1/2] currently SRE (sysadmins, roughly speaking) volunteers are needed, stuff is mainly outlined in [[Miraheze Volunteering Opportunities]] and takes place in #tech-community [05:16:48] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Volunteering_Opportunities [05:16:48] [2/2] at the same, currently people most interested in Miraheze's survival are making efforts in organizational and legal stuff outside of this discord [05:16:49]

[05:28:19] <.labster#0000> I guess I can request mod normally. [05:56:23] Thank you! [06:02:55] ah, that page was updated since I saw it last time, more than SRE vacancies now [06:08:33] [1/4] also [06:08:33] [2/4] maybe make the current notice on Meta more noticeable? lol [06:08:33] [3/4] as we still gonna get folks here asking, it seems [06:08:34] [4/4] not sure if it needs to be global notice tho, to appear on all wikis [06:08:55] *asking "mh is shutting down fr?" [06:14:32] Discord and twitter announcements are likely gonna be released tomorrow [06:49:28] [1/2] I was thrilled to hear the news. [06:49:28] [2/2] I'm glad to see that Miraheze's closure is a thing of the past. [08:25:57] https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/35c953c06b558a32422e8fd32fc2e332cb61158c14e2f2ededa419295d09acb0/details complains about some of the files in https://anticommunism.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:%E6%96%87%E4%BB%B6%E5%88%97%E8%A1%A8 [08:26:18] "Shell.php;.png" isn't a particularly inspiring filename [08:53:05] Nemo_bis: can you file a private phab task [08:57:36] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_shell [09:47:24] If only I managed to remember my password or receive a password reset email :) [09:55:47] Nemo_bis: use sign in with mediawiki if you've linked meta to phab [10:13:10] trying to make tournament brackets is actually the most frustrating thing ever [10:16:16] RhinosF1: I meant my meta.miraheze.org account. [10:17:30] Nemo_bis: ah [10:58:45] Uh. My account was created from the nonciclopedia side it seems https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth?target=Nemo+bis [11:03:03] Go figure what password I used 15 years ago [11:08:18] quick question if I accidentally delete the image dump for my wiki will the stewards be able to easily retrieve it again [11:08:48] just feels bad if it’s gonna be another few days of work to get it back up again [11:08:53] It'll have to be recreated [11:09:58] ah shit [11:10:09] thanks [13:03:05] oh [13:03:17] the new announcement isn't showing up for some people [13:03:32] an admin needs to update [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice id]] [13:03:32] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sitenotice_id [13:03:32]

[13:16:58] Wait, is there a deletion log for wikis? [13:19:52] Is Miraheze still shutting down or not [13:20:12] It’s unlikely it will be shut down [13:20:40] Miraheze received help from the community and former volunteers and is rebuilding a new organization [13:20:55] [1/2] https://trashyvyondvideos.miraheze.org/wiki/Trashy_Vyond_Videos_Wiki [13:20:55] [2/2] what the hell is this? [13:21:20] Because I moved 3 of my Wiki to a new host and still working on copying my content over on my largest Wiki [13:21:53] Doing backups is good [13:22:16] I thought reception wikis are not allowed on Miraheze [13:22:46] The CSS for that wiki is really bad [13:27:28] the reception wikis which got hard kick were part of qualitypedia thing [13:27:43] after that new reception wikis weren't and will never be accepted [13:27:48] whats reception wiki [13:27:49] but the rest ones stayed [13:28:03] i.e. outside of qp group [13:28:38] wikis revolving around good/bad stuff, poor man's critics network [13:28:48] *listing [13:28:55] ohhh [13:29:23] frequent source of drama, ruined Miraheze rep in the long run [13:29:41] <光纪#9056, replying to eytirth#0000> seems like a website in 2001 [13:29:44] ah so its basically the wiki version of the tabloids [13:29:52] <光纪#9056> 🗿 [13:30:01] And as seen in the above link, tend to have the stright up eyebleeding CSS designs [13:30:03] I would not mind them booting out the rest of those wikis [13:30:17] feel ya [13:30:46] I feel if the rest of the " reception wikis" was booted, and their drama stopped, Miraheze could try and move on [13:31:08] idk, I don't hear much shit from those remaining [13:31:14] but eh [13:31:22] Eh, the worst ones are gone at lest,. [13:39:36] good morning [13:44:11] hey Cocopuff2018 [13:44:22] how ur doing f1 [13:44:32] ok [13:51:23] is miraheze an interwiki prefix for fandom [13:51:28] can a moderator please dm me [13:54:50] Cocopuff2018: is there anything you actually need [13:57:37] es i acually do @Rhinosf1 [13:59:06] Cocopuff2018: tell me briefly what and i'll pass it on [13:59:51] i need to appeal a decision taken on my account [14:00:50] Cocopuff2018: irc/discord/wiki [14:01:09] discord [14:01:55] Cocopuff2018: will let you know if there's a response [14:03:54] thanks [15:04:59] Is there a way for me to export a wiki, images included? [15:05:27] As in, export a Miraheze wiki [15:06:03] I found another service that should work, but due to limitations they have ATM, I will have to wait a bit [15:06:14] [1/2] Special:DataDump for all the normal pages [15:06:14] [2/2] an Image Dump have to be requested on [[SN]] [15:06:14] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SN [15:06:14]

[15:06:19] I am doing this due to the recent news with Miraheze [15:07:01]