[00:00:40] Lol [00:06:13] <.labster> Honestly "Back in Black" are the only words I can understand in that song. But man, that guitar riff. [00:09:29] That song has words? 🤣 [00:34:27] Yipee miraheze isn't going bust [00:39:17] Can we get an everyone ping for the new announcemrnt, since the shutdown one got one? [00:39:56] I'm glad Miraheze is still going [00:43:16] i love mira heeezee...... [00:43:33] WoWwwww [00:43:40] I am glad Miraheze is not shutting down. [00:43:53] Yay:) [00:44:03] Thank fucking god I was about to buy an amazon web server to host my wiki [00:44:27] Paladox took care of that [00:44:36] [00:44:54] thank FUCK bro DAMN [00:44:55] AWS would have been too expensive anyways. Oracle and Google have some insanely overpowered free trials [00:45:05] HOORAY! We saved miraheze [00:45:29] How do I lock my Wiki [00:45:50] YAYYYY [00:45:51] Why would you? Miraheze isn't going anywhere [00:46:10] Since I still want to still move it to WikiTide [00:46:14] I'm gay [00:46:15] Also this sounds kinda silly but I wouldn't mind opening up ads on my wiki that will go directly to keeping Miraheze free, I don't want a cent from it but I'm sure the people who go on my wiki wouldn't mind some eyesores to support such a great site [00:46:18] jk [00:46:21] me 2 [00:46:23] Or is it? [00:46:35] Or is it? [00:46:37] [1/3] really glad the sites gonna survive! [00:46:37] [2/3] if a situation like this happens again, i'd recommend asking for emergency volunteers before announcing the project going under lol, tho i'm sure that was learned after what has happened haha [00:46:38] [3/3] glad everythings working out now it seems! [00:46:57] Special:ManageWiki, tick the "Closed" box if you haven't already [00:47:06] Let’s go hell ya [00:47:07] you could probably make the miraheze donation banner permanent on your wiki if you wanted [00:47:09] Ok Thanks [00:47:13] Miraheze lives on [00:47:39] though this recent crisis was actually not really one of funding, but of volunteers [00:48:14] We did it reddit [00:48:17] <.labster, replying to shatteredwaters> Will do next time. Not that there will be a next time. [00:48:22] [1/2] i think miraheze and wikitide should be used interchangeably [00:48:23] [2/2] let the option be open for those who want it [00:50:05] 👍 [00:50:18] best of luck on this for the future! looking forawrd to how this goes! [00:51:23] I mean neither MH or WT have any control over what the other are doing, so they will both exist for the forseeable future, and people can pick wichever they want. And some health competion existing will only incetivise both to provinding the best possible service they can [00:52:42] I would hope there isn't _another_ time of this [00:54:02] [00:54:02] There won’t be… [00:54:38] I mean you never know what the future holds, but hopefully not for the next 10 years at least [00:54:53] I agree (for some reason, it's not letting me react to this message specifically) [00:55:02] Thanks to everyone who got together to save Miraheze! [00:57:39] if you cannot react then the user has you blocked [00:58:19] anyways, congrats on finding a path forward for miraheze. But just some widely-applicable advice: if you are ever working on a free volunteer effort, never feel bad about allowing it to have a beginning, middle, and end. If miraheze did shut down it would be 100% understandable [00:59:29] Great, I was impersonated again [00:59:30] there's always a burnout risk with these sorts of things [01:00:46] macfan4000 sorry for the trouble and thanks for the prompt response but i think our image dump might need reuploading because the status is Failed on our end now [01:00:55] Congratulations! [01:00:57] but if they were blocked they wouldn't be able to reply, either, right? [01:01:11] you can open the message and reply again [01:01:15] you can reply, they just won't see it [01:01:25] [1/2] as an example, it hit the golang community like a brick wall when this project shut down - https://github.com/gorilla/ [01:01:26] [2/2] but it made sense in retrospect, they were simply unable to find long term contributors [01:01:36] @xnotyuki which wiki? [01:01:45] twisted wonderland [01:03:05] the shutdown may have been called off but i just stabbed my left hand with a rusty nail by accident [01:03:15] so yeah this week kinda sucks [01:03:33] could've had a better start to summer than miraheze almost shutting down [01:04:13] Yooo u nerds did it you saved miraheze, I don't have to go back to the awful hell of a website fandom is, thanks nerds [01:04:38] [1/2] yeah, more volunteers would be nice. being able to communicate freely [01:04:38] [2/2] this reminds me of "psychological safety" coined by Google, being able to communicate effectively without fear would be a good culture to implement for the new team 🙂 [01:04:41] also as a side note whoever is pubkishing the #announcements you dont actually need to publish the @ everyone [01:05:00] it wont @ the peoplr in the servers anyways but it sure looks funny [01:05:07] and someone still needs to update [[MediaWiki:Sitenotice id]] [01:05:07] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sitenotice_id [01:05:07]

[01:05:09] yes thank you nerds who have the technical know-how to even make miraheze work in the first place, i was looking at chat earlier and got my head hurt trying to understand anything [01:05:17] it might be automatic if you set publish [01:05:32] publishes are manual iirc? [01:05:39] or did they change it rexently [01:05:44] Why does sitenotice id need updated? [01:05:48] well you can follow an announcement channel on your server thus it sends all [01:05:59] so people see the sitenotice if they hid it previously [01:06:05] since it's really important [01:06:07] Oh really [01:06:14] I didnt know that was a thing [01:06:17] i used to do announcemebt publishing. theres a 10 per hour limit. it was manuakly done [01:06:37] yeah, if you don't update it then the new one won't update or be shown to those who dismissed [01:06:50] @xnotyuki it’s actually still there https://static.miraheze.org/twistedwonderlandwiki/dumps/twistedwonderlandwiki_image_9824ae94886fc757366f.tar.gz [01:07:05] oh wtf thanks [01:07:05] This is another problem that needs fixing [01:07:08] why is it a tarball [01:07:14] with the formal announcement, everyone can probably start to relax on requesting wiki dumps [01:07:17] Image dump [01:07:39] I didn’t set it up - @orduin did [01:07:52] (I have no idea what the thought was) [01:08:11] well gz means compressed tarball, saves on space if good compression [01:08:19] this is how it looks on our end [01:08:27] thanks again! [01:09:44] I generate a dump, and later I see via ps aux that somehow the dump is being generated again for whatever reason, and so I kill the process, but I guess DataDump sees that as a failure and so updates it to failed [01:09:48] <.labster> Compressing a bunch of compressed image formats like jpg, png, webp will save very little space but it might matter to us. [01:10:05] oof [01:10:20] also we should get rid of non-animated gifs [01:10:47] Ideally DataDump should not set failed status if it is already set to “ready” [01:11:25] <.labster> I see GeoJSON namespace so someone might be using TIFFs [01:21:13] <.labster> Well, that was a fun little burst of activity. Hopefully most everyone knows by now. [01:22:34] congrats all [01:34:59] Was about to drop in to say that lol [01:43:55] am I the only one having big problems? the pages barely load [01:47:09] it shows as if half the pages are missing [01:49:26] Both meta and my own wiki loads perfectly fine at least [01:50:58] fuck me [01:55:33] <.labster> Honestly things seem a little faster to me. It could be network issues. [02:07:17] the problem was me. For some reason one edit from my iPad completely destroyed my while page and links [02:08:03] sorry I got quite scared [02:09:30] I’ll be on both Wiki hosting services Miraheze and WikiTide [02:51:08] I'm still learning self hosting (Docker completely floors me), but good to know the future looks less uncertain [02:54:50] well if you use a weird linux operating system, you will encounter weird results...I do not understand what on earth happened [03:55:53] Miraheze saved! I'm donating. [04:06:38] Seems like Miraheze is quite buggy this day [04:24:37] I was softly thinking i should just before the announcement and now i definitely think i will now that its staying around, I owe a lot of hours of my life working on projects im proud of within their sites [04:32:31] don't donate for now, the money aren't a problem right now, some legal transition will occur [04:32:32] hold on, wait for the in incorporation otherwise will lose value in donation funds when transfer [04:32:43] @averywager ^ [04:32:47] not sure if remain in UK or going to uS [04:34:08] Will be reincorp in US when we do [04:34:13] [1/2] perhaps maybe disable donate links? slap a redirect to a note instead? [04:34:13] [2/2] although people w/ auto donations will stuck [04:34:21] Thats doable! [04:35:01] I rather a board member do it just so we arent stepping on toes [04:35:08] ofc [04:35:26] probably should be noted on that last announcement page tho [04:35:47] I believe it is noted [04:36:10] [1/2] in terms of auto donate, can't you guys issue a revoke or cancel on all? [04:36:11] [2/2] might be worth a twitter announcement and site notice on meta [04:37:06] I have no idea how that all works [04:37:15] I mean it wouldnt be the end of the world if people donate [04:37:33] yeah, in that case a twitter message would be good [04:37:50] Once again only board has that kind of access [04:38:08] (and should, for now) [04:39:36] so in this case, Void? [04:40:04] that said, is Void staying with new management or leaving? [05:03:03] this is a little bit silly imo [05:03:28] you're gonna lose like 0.4% of the value to a transfer. not a viable reason to discourage people from donating imo [05:16:25] Suppose, miraheze staff seem to be doing it [05:22:48] I dont know where you got that from [05:23:06] Because I explicitly stated it was up to the current board to make that decision [05:28:10] There's been intermittent suggestions from a few folks of various levels of volunteer attachments that it might be a good idea to hold off until transfer is complete, so it's not out of nowhere [05:53:41] To be clear, there is no strong decree to hold off on donations at this time, with obvious deference to board/transition team statements confirming in either direction. [06:05:54] Owen recommended waiting I believe [06:07:01] [1/2] Found it (or one example): [06:07:01] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1119717056586186882 [06:13:30] Hi. I want to run MediaWiki Scraper on Windows 10, but I didn't understand how to do it at all. I have a Linux subsystem for Windows (Debian distribution). Maybe she needs to work? [06:18:44] I accept birthday wishes for my main wiki which was created on 20th June in 2021 <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [06:22:05] damn I need to set min width [06:23:51] Happy 2nd year of existence to SC Wiki [06:26:32] [1/2] btw can native Eng speakers help me? [06:26:32] [2/2] which way of saying is correct, "is 2 years", "is 2 years old" or "turned 2 years (old)"? [06:32:13] Turned 2 years old is probably yes [06:32:15] Best [06:39:36] Seconded as occasional resident wordsmith, but aren't we all really? [06:46:08] @notaracham my grammar at 7am is not great so I'm glad someone else agrees [06:49:29] thank u <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [06:52:12] Why the interface language has been switched to English [06:53:45] seems some correct some not [07:01:39] I use Timeless as well but my interface is intact (Russian) [07:02:04] can you try to log out and log in back? [07:02:34] check user preferences just in case too [07:20:30] [1/2] It's the same with mine. [07:20:31] [2/2] I already tried from different accounts but it didn't worked. Managewiki also doesn't work [07:21:58] [1/2] in what sense ManageWiki doesn't work? [07:21:58] [2/2] and which language you use? [07:24:30] German. The pages are not existing. Same with others. Main, Logged out... [07:26:50] [1/4] well, log out is an ongoing bug, I just got logged out off my wiki too [07:26:51] [2/4] but I can access ManageWiki pages just fine [07:26:51] [3/4] please login and try again [07:26:51] [4/4] also was your wiki just created? there's a bug where founder might not get full rights on their wiki [07:28:28] ^ @ current and future SRE members - the log out bug us quite persistent and needs an investigation, the sooner the better [07:29:07] it's been at least a month like that [07:30:09] Same issue as mine, sometimes it shows the English version instead of Tagalog [07:33:40] all three of you - can you tell on which db are your wikis? [07:34:13] ah wait, admins can't tell [07:34:20] my bad [07:46:30] Does db stand for database? [07:47:56] yeah, it just a thought cus SRE been poking around them last night [07:49:34] since my wiki is fine [07:50:02] it wasn't affected by infamous November shut downs too [07:51:21] OK, I think mediawiki system randomly fail to load locale setting [07:52:36] #tech-community [07:56:49] ok, scratch my theory, I got English sidebar too [08:35:35] <.labster> It's most likely caused by newly deployed servers not being set up properly. The language bug only seems to happen on the new ones. [09:09:30] So I just want know—can I reported bugs now？ [09:09:45] Cause nowadays I still can delete my pages [09:09:56] ??? [09:11:09] well, I don't use Python so can't help [09:11:57] bugs have to be reported via Phabricator, but what do you mean by "still can delete my pages"? [09:11:58] Okay...( [09:12:54] cannot（ [09:13:15] I reported before [09:13:33] hmm <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [09:13:51] But I think maybe I have to resubmit report [09:14:30] cause this is not from the bug of css and js，It is from the API on mh [09:14:40] no need to post again, check status of the first [09:14:50] OK [09:14:58] can be opened or kicked again [09:15:34] but we currently got issues w/ wikis in different languages, yours might be affected too [09:15:53] yean [09:16:18] Me too,the wiki language is eng,not Chinese [09:16:29] maybe someone in #Alternative Wiki Hosting Services knows [09:17:31] I saw someone had feedback this bug，so I don't feed it. [09:21:25] newly deployed servers? [09:24:06] <.labster> virtual servers on our current infrastructure. We rebalanced some things by moving mediawiki instances. It seems to have already made things faster, and hopefully less likely to see 503, but obviously we have a little bug to work out. [09:24:19] ohhhh that makes sense [09:25:34] <.labster> Basically before you had a 33% chance to hit a slow server that was already busy doing other things, so now we just let it do those other things instead of also running mediawiki. [09:25:51] [09:37:26] Good morning goobers [09:37:39] yo [09:38:24] We have been saved [09:39:08] Let’s hope we last 100 years! [09:45:00] Man this year has been wild for Miraheze [09:46:21] Hopefully the second half is better [09:48:46]