[00:51:56] If I missed backing up some pages from an archived wiki, is there a way to get the dump? [00:53:36] If it's a public wiki, dumps are available on archive.org [01:06:04] Ok thanks [01:11:37] what if i don't see it in there? [01:12:53] What if it's not available with a `subject:"miraheze"` search? [01:13:17] [1/2] From an older incident, but this guide covers your options: [01:13:18] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:NotAracham/Wiki_Recovery_Guide_(db141_outage)#Option_1:_Archive.org_search_for_XML_backups [01:13:36] If nothing can be found, that's it, you're pretty much out of luck. [01:14:14] it was deleted within the last week I believe [01:19:01] specifically advancewars.miraheze.org [01:21:16] In this case, the database for the wiki still exists, so you can request its undeletion on the [[Stewards' noticeboard]] [01:21:16] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Stewards%27_noticeboard [01:21:17] [01:27:03] thnx [01:39:58] ugh got logged out on miraheze again [01:40:07] starting to annoy me :p [01:40:19] Happens every other Wednesday, may as well get used to it [01:40:33] its a weekly occurance? [01:40:54] Biweekly (once every two weeks, not twice a week) [01:41:07] oh wait didnt notice the other [01:41:14] lol oh well [02:00:22] back for another simple quest, how can i do something like a gallery with videos? (using the tag and such) https://supersonicowiki.miraheze.org/wiki/SoniPro#Gallery [02:06:06] I rarely get logged out since like 2019 [02:36:06] mobile editing is a pain... [02:37:51] I do 99% of my editing using desktop view on mobile on old vector (the only real skin) [02:56:08] my wikis either use old vector, cosmos or citizen as it's main skins, the new vector skin kinda sucks ngl [03:18:33] old vector is nice, too bad minerva sucks and no other skin pairs that well visually for mobile :/ [04:48:58] I constantly get logged out on both mobile and desktop [04:49:28] I still don't know if this bug is upstream? [04:52:27] doesn't seem to be possible, only w/ videos directly uploaded on wiki [04:53:14] I guess maybe w/ some CSS tricks in a div [04:53:29] you can get something similar [04:54:50] actually, according to documentation you can set width/height, try that [04:55:01] Ive been logged in for the last month [04:55:37] I wonder if your browser is deleting your cookies [04:55:55] [1/2] nope [04:55:56] [2/2] I had a guess that's maybe it's tied to VPN but most of the time I logged in [04:56:12] That could be why [04:56:21] happens once or twice in a week, and again [04:56:58] I’m not sure if MW has a built in cookie hijack measure or not, but if it does a VPN could most certainty trigger it [05:45:19] I've been getting logged out too [05:45:27] but i definitely don't have a VPN [06:09:24] With what browser? I have this issue using Firefox on both Miraheze and WMF wikis (and with 2FA enabled which is such a pain). AFAIK, this has to do with CentralAuth's (mis)handling of cookies. So if you don't have this issue, I envy you. [06:12:53] I'm also Firefox user, both versions <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [06:13:20] and for doing wiki stuff I'm using a fork [06:14:34] 🤝 fellow firefox user [06:15:57] I think I registered on Wikipedia in 2019, and for entire year never was logged out of it [06:16:27] Are you still logged in there? [06:16:36] no [06:16:59] I probably made last edit in 2021 [06:18:53] I also made a mistake creating new account on MediaWiki [06:18:56] I do 99% of my editing on mobile using Safari. It shouldn’t be a firefox issue, unless its a unreported bug with FF (I’m on firefox’s support team) [06:20:14] Pretty sure it's the intended behaviour on FF's side; CentralAuth is the one with the issues. [06:20:27] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256525 could be the relevant task. [06:20:54] I’ve never had issues on FF on my laptop either on either wmf or mh, since 2019ish [06:20:58] But there are far too many similar tasks out there. [06:22:49] even UO said not long time ago he gets logged out often [06:23:22] So what is different i wonder [06:23:32] [1/2] and I've made an account on WikiTide, very early [06:23:32] [2/2] but checking couple of days ago I was logged out lol [06:24:10] although, considering its freshness, might not be related to the bug [06:24:29] Can you both go to https://samesite-sandbox.glitch.me/ and tell me the result [06:26:26] Okay so yours does the same as mine [06:27:46] We've had reports of issues with FF before [06:28:18] There's an entry on bugzilla but it went nowhere because they found our login unreliable [06:28:24] FF doesn’t log me out on MH, odd. [06:28:43] Is bugzilla still a thing lol [06:30:23] If you find it I can raise it internally [06:31:11] Yep Mozilla developed it and actively uses it for bug tracking [06:31:29] htrps://buzilla.mozilla.org/ [06:32:29] They should hire a UI designer that is horrid. [06:33:04] I mean its several decades old, 1998 [06:33:56] WMF used it prior to migrating to phab [06:34:07] Yeah same behavior as mine [06:35:40] Fandom too iirc. [06:38:25] @rhinosf1 so I found the bugzilla report, I don’t believe its the same issue [06:38:45] This seems more like login cookies and/or sessions are not being retained [06:40:13] @zppix yeah I just cc'd you on it. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1774861 [06:41:25] @redmin0 @theoneandonlylegroom on FF do you guys have Extended Tracking Protection enabled? [06:42:22] yeah [06:42:51] lemme check desktop [06:44:08] [1/2] on desktop - no, set to standard [06:44:08] [2/2] it's Comodo IceDragon btw [06:44:44] So its not that then ugh [06:45:41] same stuff on desktop [06:47:30] [1/2] I remember loggin in couple of months ago and recently checking FANDOM again - logget out [06:47:31] [2/2] again, when I only registered (2015-2016), I never was logged out for very long periods [06:48:32] CentralAuth is going to need major changes soon because google & Mozilla hate tracking [06:49:09] kinda unbelievable, Wikipedia is tracking you lol [06:49:29] Ive been close eye on their tracking stuff, no huge breaking changes are in the works (yet) [06:50:28] I’m trying to find in centralauth’s code where they set the cookie [06:51:21] Because if im right in my assumption, this may be an easy fix [06:52:01] @zppix Google's plans will break CA [06:52:13] Solution: Use a better browser [06:59:01] I wanna humor myself for a second, we dont set $wgCentralAuthCookieDomain, I wonder if we set this to *.miraheze.org, if that would fix things [07:02:52] @zppix wait we don't set that [07:02:59] How? Why? [07:03:13] Not according to localsettings.php we do not [07:03:49] @zppix https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/4a2d8941d2e9e5a942100a19c1005e642a0639da/GlobalSettings.php#L149 [07:04:13] Wait, we set the cookie domain to the custom domain [07:04:29] That's going to cause issues if sameSite is broken [07:04:51] You probably have to [07:05:04] Because the request would be coming from the custom domain [07:05:07] What do wikimedia do? [07:05:58] https://codesearch.wmcloud.org/search/?q=wgCentralAuthCookieDomain&files=&excludeFiles=&repos=#operations/mediawiki-config [07:06:25] https://github.com/wikimedia/operations-mediawiki-config/blob/7c676d45218cfd16adf6d1ccb27407c49ef4c170/wmf-config/CommonSettings.php#L1906 [07:09:33] Looks like they do a ton of hacking for CentralAuth [07:54:32] [1/2] remember when we had a bug w/ Vector 2022 when it only got available here? when admins of wikis and anons were able to see normal default skin, while the rest types of users were getting V22 w/ broken styling? [07:54:32] [2/2] I've created new account back then to test it out, but now can't remeber its name or if I tied it to an email [08:17:18] [1/5] how do you install this to use? [08:17:18] [2/5] [08:17:18] [3/5] i've copied all the code to [08:17:18] [4/5] [08:17:19] [5/5] but i still can't create a countdown [08:18:36] isn't there an extension for that? [08:19:29] ah, it's archived [08:20:42] we have [[mw:Extension:CountDownClock]] tho [08:20:42] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CountDownClock [08:20:43] [08:21:36] i think it isn't working, i tried to use it before [08:22:18] it looks like that extension hasn't been working for a long time. i found that countdown on dev fandom wiki from searching here [08:22:22] idk then, you sure you make right syntax by that dev documentation? [08:34:13] i copied the example to test it but nothing is appearing [08:35:25] i'm not sure about that installation [08:36:01] it says "The ImportJS feature of the Content Review extension bypasses" on the help page for ImportJS [08:36:23] ImportJS is purely FANDOM thing [08:36:40] you had to copy or import the js page [08:37:07] I've done that before w/ other dev.fandom things [08:37:08] yea, so i copied all the code at MediaWiki:Countdown/code.js [08:37:20] wait a sec [08:37:23] is there anyone else other than that i need to do? [08:38:24] Yes, you need to load it [08:38:58] We don't load MediaWiki:*.js - you'll need to do a js import from Mediawiki:Common.js or Mediawiki:.js [08:39:24] or w/ `@import`, right 🤦 [08:39:40] what I've done previsouly were Lua modules, not js, sorry [08:40:27] importScript(Mediawiki:Countdown/code.js) [08:41:20] It seems you copied it to MediaWiki:Countdown.js [08:43:35] also @yorki unrelated, but it seems like some images on your wiki are "miss sized" [08:45:11] [08:46:02] @yorki try the full url instead of without the domain [08:46:09] https://cravesaga.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.js&diff=10789&oldid=10592 [08:47:15] [1/2] ah yea, i'm trying it. this right? [08:47:15] [2/2] ```mw.loader.load( 'https://www.cravesaga.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Countdown.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript' );``` [08:48:01] which one? the sprite? that is the full size of it, it's supposed to be small like that [08:48:49] no, full art, looking at the template there's just no set limit on the file [08:49:57] wait, but it's working in my side [08:50:02] It looks it [08:50:07] <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [08:50:10] I can't see any errors in the console [08:50:47] ha, it shows up fine in vanilla Firefox and Chrome ... [08:50:54] apologies [08:53:43] [1/4] i'm copying the example on dev wiki to test [08:53:43] [2/4] ```