[01:26:25] Yes it’s open, I requested and opened mine a few days ago :) [01:26:39] Ah, that's good to hear [13:45:04] https://forum.torproject.org/t/tor-relays-announcement-webtunnel-a-new-pluggable-transport-for-bridges-now-available-for-deployment/8180 [13:45:22] wouldn't it be cool if we did that here? [13:46:16] Orange_Star: why [13:46:27] connection could go from our frontend cache proxies, which would redirect to a dedicated webtunnel server (for security), and censors would be none the wiser [13:46:55] RhinosF1: Because these things work best when the front website isn't obviously only meant to avoid automatic probes [13:52:52] meanwhile my tor browser refuses to connect at all lmao (because government blocks mostly) [13:53:20] legroom: then this would be pretty good news for you [13:53:26] have u tried snowflake btw? [13:54:11] it's even worse [13:54:20] worse than not connecting at all? [13:54:28] it gives you a glimpse of connection [13:54:33] but [13:55:22] it's feels like the slowest thing on entire internet [13:55:45] it's frustrating [13:55:48] Well, snowflake proxies are mostly run on web browsers after all, it's not like regular relays on fast internet [13:56:42] feds will caught you faster than anything would load on snowflake lol [14:12:31] anyway, I think it's not that bad of an idea for us to do this. We could hide the webtunnel behind any of the wikis hosted on Miraheze, and we also have wikis on multiple domains on which to hide it (though it would be curious how to handle the opsec, we wouldn't want to give away where the proxy is) [14:13:40] maybe the webtunnel config could be handled on the private git used on Puppet somehow? [14:13:41] Maybe focus on keeping miraheze alive first, instead of implementing solutions to problems that don't exist.. [14:14:10] there's already people on that theresnotime [14:15:40] and besides, this is a very real problem, and one much more important than Miraheze will ever be: https://blog.torproject.org/tor-censorship-in-russia/ [14:23:40] Miraheze been blocked in China and Iran for considerable amount of time but you bring this up w/ Russia [14:24:10] besides, I can tell you Miraheze is VERY OBSCURE amongst Russians [14:24:24] We've never confirmed blocks in China [14:24:28] Nor Iran [14:24:35] Nor North Korea [14:24:45] they constantly try to register w/ VPN/proxies [14:24:56] leading to stewards emails [14:25:25] Because most people there use proxies to stop their government spying on them? :p [14:25:36] that too [14:26:00] So why would they turn it off for miraheze? Doesn't mean it's blocked there.. [14:26:11] as long as feds won't find out somee Russian is admining a wiki about gay synthpop band Miraheze is safe lol [14:27:18] I remember tho someone requesting a wiki for coordinating resources on humanitarian aid and news regarding the war [14:27:29] idk if it's exist now [14:28:26] we had there some guy from mainland China persuading Owen et all to register in China and enforce censorship [14:28:56] *register Miraheze as company or whatever [14:28:59] wait i don't remember that. When did that happen [14:29:09] roughly a year ago [14:29:12] We are not blocked in China [14:29:20] even if we are, so what? [14:29:26] we live in a free world. [14:29:32] we aren't bending to authoritarian regimes [14:29:43] Is miraheze blocked in Australia or no [14:29:51] Just a response to the claim we were [14:30:00] I don't care and we wouldn't do anything if we were [14:30:01] ok [14:30:07] yeah, this whole thing got forgotten fast [14:30:14] Why would we be [14:30:31] australia is a free country??? [14:30:38] wha [14:30:52] free for the spiderz [14:32:03] *he also was saying that Miraheze will be blocked sooner or later, idk [14:32:21] but ok, I get you Rhinos [14:32:28] Definitely not lmao, considering we don't really block sites unless they're like,,, illegal (ex: pirating) [14:32:34] Oh I'm amazed they haven't blocked us in some authoritarian regime for no reason [14:32:51] could be bc Miraheze isn't like, Wikipedia level big [14:33:14] what I'm saying ^ [14:33:36] What about russia are we blocked there or no [14:33:44] no. [14:33:50] I'm more amazed by the fact that tumblr isn't (don't jinx it), seeing ru artists flocking there [14:34:22] no [14:38:44] Im surprised miraheze doesn't have a Wikipedia page [15:18:09] There's a draft currently in progress, but it's been declined twice for having too many primary sources [15:34:27] Too many primary sources? [15:34:36] How does one have too many primary sources… [15:40:53] Because Wikipedia relies on not-primary sources. People talking about themselves aren’t exactly reliable/verifiable [15:41:25] Hi [15:43:07] Meme channel when [15:43:58] Memes go in #offtopic or nowhere [15:44:07] Ok [15:54:43] [[w:WP:RS]] & [[w:WP:GNG]] [15:54:43] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:RS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:GNG [15:54:44]

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[2/2] [16:00:47] Miraheze is an online free self hosted wiki platform.. it was founded by John Lewis and Southpark fan. [16:03:24] Tnh miraheze is better off without a Wikipedia page [16:04:49] Tbh miraheze doesn't have enough information for a page anyways [16:09:13] agreed [16:10:34] the history of miraheze would also be hard to explain [16:11:38] i honestly wouldnt want to see the bad side of miraheze's history listed on wikipedia, because when someone searches miraheze up they would see that [16:15:25] here is one thing i like about miraheze it indexes well on bing [16:15:56] i been complaning about the search engine for some time now [16:44:28] <_______________________________d> language option is terrible [16:45:20] <_______________________________d> also "patois" is english, in patois it [16:45:24] <_______________________________d> 's "patwa" [17:14:02] It's just translating it into base 64 [17:57:53] [1/2] How would I put these 2 graphs next to each other, not on top of each other? [17:57:54] [2/2] if possible [17:59:33] [1/2] make a table w/ two cells or create div w/ float: right/left [17:59:34] [2/2] the content of either would be those graphs [17:59:37] separately [18:03:23] Better to use flex or grid so it’s responsive [18:06:42] yeah [19:01:43] MW 1.40 is out! [19:02:25] yay [19:09:43] Not yay [19:09:54] why no yay? [19:10:12] First upgrade in Miraheze's history where we aren't anywhere close to ready [19:10:26] We haven't even decided if we'll do it [19:11:24] Well, the MediaWiki team consists of MacFan4000, who already said they're not updating on their own, and Agent, who's on the way out [19:11:39] pretty safe to say it was already decided that we won't be updating [19:12:39] I closed all of the related tickets [19:13:09] Upgrade definitely won’t happen due to understaffing [19:13:57] what about an update to 1.39.4? [19:54:42] [1/2] Isn't that just simple security update or something like that? [19:54:42] [2/2] Should be much easier than major updates [20:28:50] without the upgrade we will have old extensions [20:29:24] so let me make it clear we are gonna stay on 1.39 [20:29:51] For the time being [20:29:51] For now, yes [20:30:08] when is 1.40's release [20:30:34] ~today [20:30:41] oh shit [20:31:45] question so should all the 1.39 extensions still work [20:32:50] ? [20:33:25] i mean it should [20:33:30] Yes… [20:34:01] Just because MW updates doesnt mean anything we still use the 1.39 release of extensions [20:35:22] 1.39 is an LTS [20:35:29] It has 2 years of support [21:12:00] <_______________________________d, replying to tali64> It still probably shouldn’t do that [22:41:00] anyone know how to find the date a wiki xml dump was generated (as opposed to created on own's local file system)? [22:59:46] <.labster> I can't access https://twitter.com/mirahezeStatus Anyone else have this problem? [23:01:17] Loads fine for me [23:03:14] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/615786602454581249/1124475136880414790 [23:04:10] Twitter hid everything behind auth [23:04:25] I wonder if our embed on status page and 503 work