[00:38:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> Reddit closed their API and Twitter went private. The day the shitposts died.
[00:44:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix, replying to .labster> I mean the api thing makes sense
[00:44:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> Most apis have those type of restrictions
[01:24:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> Most APIs are priced so that the people who use them will want to pay.
[03:17:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cocopuff2018> #offtopic
[05:06:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelevking> Since no one answered this before: what time does it take for statistics counters to update after an import? Does MediaWiki run an update sometimes?
[05:51:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> I believe it runs on a timer
[05:51:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zppix> Im not sure how the timeframe
[06:48:56] <RhinosF1>	 It's a cron job for the special page
[06:49:04] <RhinosF1>	 Other places use a mix of ways
[06:51:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Twice a month on the 1st and 15th from what I can see
[06:53:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> (assuming that I'm poking around the right runner specifications:  https://github.com/miraheze/puppet/blob/master/modules/mediawiki/manifests/jobqueue/runner.pp)
[07:43:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @notaracham ye, that's the one for the special page
[08:10:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelevking> Thanks, that actually worked just now 😅
[09:52:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> ye, it would have been starting as you messaged @thelevking
[10:58:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ARV - MAD> Hey! Is there any special page with a list of broken links? Specifically looking for files which don't exist but were used, since my wiki had been closed and I have to reup all files
[11:05:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <han.0000> [1/2] Special:WantedFiles
[11:05:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <han.0000> [2/2] Special:WantedPages
[13:43:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tatiannaz> is there a way to see all the edits on your wiki
[13:43:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tatiannaz> like a contributions page but for
[13:43:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tatiannaz> the entire wiki?
[14:15:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aplantern> Special:RecentChanges?
[14:15:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> RC is limited to 30 days
[14:15:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aplantern> no its not
[14:15:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> and 500 edits
[14:16:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aplantern> you can manually change the url or change options in managewiki
[14:16:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aplantern> it max 1 year
[14:18:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aplantern> i think
[14:19:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aplantern> Special:RecentChanges?hidebots=1&hidecategorization=1&limit=5000000000000000&days=500000000000&urlversion=2
[14:26:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelevking> Is there something like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgEmailConfirmToEdit but just to require to add en email when registering?
[14:29:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gribskov> WikiForum is in the list of extensions, but it is tagged with some serious security warnings. Does the Miraheze installation deal with these problems?
[14:30:11] <Orange_Star>	 no, in fact it is disabled here in Miraheze, it doesn't actually work even when enabled on ManageWiki becuase of those security issues
[14:32:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gribskov> is there a forum extension that's actually enabled?
[14:33:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> on existing wiki? doubtful
[14:36:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelevking, replying to gribskov> You can have wiki-style discussions with DiscussionTools or forum-style discussions with Structured Discussions but that will be deprecated soon
[14:38:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> structured you mean?
[14:39:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_______________________________d> Can I post an IRC channel invite in #server-invites ?
[14:39:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <thelevking, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Are you asking about what will be deprecated? Yes, SD
[14:41:09] <Sheep42>	 hi
[14:41:38] <Orange_Star>	 hi
[14:41:54] <Sheep42>	 :)
[14:42:28] <Orange_Star>	 :(
[14:50:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gribskov> What about DPLForum? Also currently in extensions and no prominent warnings?
[15:16:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charliefiddlesticks> Hey I need some help
[15:17:25] <Orange_Star>	 with what
[15:18:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charliefiddlesticks> I was supposed to move my wiki to Wikitide today but the .gz image dump for it still won't work and nobody responded to the thing I posted on the Noticeboard back on the 18th
[15:18:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charliefiddlesticks> It still says "Failed - Network Error" when I try to download it
[15:22:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to charliefiddlesticks> I think you will have to use external tools for that instead
[15:22:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> Ig
[15:23:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charliefiddlesticks> What's an external tool?
[15:23:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> I found a tool from github that help, based on Python
[15:24:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charliefiddlesticks> What's the tool called?
[15:25:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to charliefiddlesticks> Mediawiki Scraper
[15:26:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charliefiddlesticks> Does it scrape images too?
[15:27:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yes
[15:28:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charliefiddlesticks> https://github.com/openzim/mwoffliner This is it right?
[15:29:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charliefiddlesticks> How do I download it and stuff? I am not that good with Python
[15:33:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> hell nah, not that
[15:33:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> https://github.com/mediawiki-client-tools/mediawiki-scraper
[15:34:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> this 👆
[15:35:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charliefiddlesticks> Ok, so how exactly do I use this scraper?
[15:36:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charliefiddlesticks> I have Windows 11 btw
[15:37:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> just do as the readme said and u should be fine
[15:37:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charliefiddlesticks> Ok
[15:39:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> [1/2] check out the python environment for your system first, then install Python 3.8
[15:39:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> [2/2] Add Python to PATH or it might not work
[15:42:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charliefiddlesticks> Ok
[15:47:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charliefiddlesticks> I am on the first step and it is deciding not to work :(
[15:49:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mastergalahad> You'll need git-scm on Windows too
[15:51:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charliefiddlesticks> Ok
[15:59:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charliefiddlesticks> What did I do wrong here? I was following the steps
[16:18:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charliefiddlesticks> I am starting to get confused. I installed poetry but it still won't work
[18:33:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091, replying to charliefiddlesticks> Isn't that Powershell?
[18:33:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091> There are many stuffs that aren't compatible with Powershell so...
[18:33:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091> Either use cmd in Powershell by typing "cmd" or using cmd app
[18:34:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theresnotime, replying to charliefiddlesticks> probably isn't on your PATH (https://www.architectryan.com/2018/03/17/add-to-the-path-on-windows-10/)
[19:19:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <charliefiddlesticks> will do
[20:47:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> https://meta.betaheze.org/wiki/Miraheze is now running 1.40 (the released version)
[20:47:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> all other wikis are on 1.39.4 now.
[20:57:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Thanks @paladox
[20:57:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theresnotime> painless
[20:59:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @theresnotime you own https://isbetabroken.com, you know beta ain't painless
[21:00:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theresnotime> snrk :p
[21:00:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theresnotime> https://butreally.isbetabroken.com
[21:00:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to theresnotime> The answer for Miraheze is a very resounding no
[21:00:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Beta was my concept
[21:01:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theresnotime> so you're to blame?
[21:01:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to theresnotime> Yes
[21:01:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I'm also to blame for Miraheze's equivalent of scap @theresnotime
[21:02:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theresnotime> oooh
[21:02:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @theresnotime it's far more simple than scap and a push only system
[21:02:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theresnotime> hadn't occurred to me that you don't just rip off wmf's scap too ;P
[21:02:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> There is no equivalent of 'scap pull'
[21:03:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Well there is
[21:03:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> But it's just not selecting all servers to push too
[21:03:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @theresnotime too complex
[21:04:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theresnotime> Will maybe have to give it a go one day
[21:04:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @theresnotime https://github.com/miraheze/puppet/blob/master/modules/mediawiki/files/bin/deploy-mediawiki.py
[21:11:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @paladox what's maint
[21:12:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox, replying to rhinosf1> i need to change a setting on cloud14 to see if that'll help with performance as i noticed a difference between cloud13 & 14 which would explain the different behaviour on cloud14.
[21:12:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> and i need to restart mariadb to pickup a unit change
[21:12:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Cool
[21:13:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> i don't expect it to last 3h but cloud servers are unpredictable when rebooting
[21:13:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> 3h is a sensible window length
[21:13:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> It gives a contingency for tech being tech
[21:14:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <paladox> yeh, i don't want to make it conservative because in the past that usually goes wrong for us so a more reasonable window is better
[21:15:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> We have learnt to expect the unexpected
[21:43:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cibryll> And to also expect the expected, instead of not expecting the expected.
[21:58:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lieskryos> For some reason, my infoboxes don't appear to be rendering right?
[22:19:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lieskryos> And also this isn't rendering, even though I have the TemplateData extension