[01:07:06] @theoneandonlylegroom Thank you, I will give it a shot. My expertise with this stuff expands basically to running and maintaining a wiki, anything else is above my head, so anything helps! [01:24:35] mmm maybe :3 [01:25:21] :3 [01:25:32] <:nyaboom:1089282060251840594> [01:45:15] <.gtbot> Why did you guys delete the minecraft discontinued features wiki? [01:52:42] I believe it migrated to another wiki farm [01:54:08] <.gtbot> that doesn't mean just press delete but ok [02:02:42] Chances are that, after migrating, they requested the wiki to be closed/deleted. [02:09:01] <.gtbot> turns out no [02:10:18] [1/2] Yes, they originally requested it closed or self-closed. [02:10:18] [2/2] They are now asking to undelete and reopen temporarily to aid users in migrating to their new instance on wiki.gg [02:20:26] <.gtbot> turns out someone just auto deletes wikis when they get moved off miraheze or somthing [02:22:40] That's wildly untrue. [02:25:17] <.gtbot> Also happend to the stardew modding wiki [02:26:22] That's absolutely not policy, but perhaps @Site Reliability Engineers can shed some light on it. [02:26:24] @Stewards Someone didn't get rights on their new wiki: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/33393 [02:40:43] wasn't requested by an admin or closed by an admin [02:41:50] Interesting... Thanks for this, I'll escalate internally [02:43:25] Did every undeletion request on SN [02:44:01] thank you <3 [02:44:34] @.gtbot please do not accuse anyone of anything on the behalf of our wiki thank you [03:07:50] <.gtbot, replying to lpt4> I didn't accuse anyone of anything that isn't actually true [03:13:16] You claimed that "someone just auto deletes wikis when they get moved off miraheze or somthing" that is not proven at all. [03:18:37] <.gtbot> we got three instances of a wiki being deleted because it moved off of miraheze [03:18:59] <.gtbot> while we can't prove it was one person it is kinda suspicions [03:23:39] exactly, we can't prove it was one person, therefore, your statement is not a true accusation. [03:23:57] <.gtbot> if its not one person then its even worse lol [03:26:54] Alternatively, some of the wikis did have a valid request to be deleted and this one was unintentionally caught up in processing those requests. Without evidence againt, I'm inclined to support its a mistake as a default assumption [03:29:40] We do not delete wikis that are migrating unless requested, more than likely the dormancy policy applied [03:31:27] Dormancy Policy? that's 6 months of no edits right? last edit was either late June or early July. [03:31:46] [[Dormancy Policy]] [03:31:46] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Dormancy_Policy [03:31:47]

[03:32:43] June still wasn't 60 days ago though [03:32:55] Then it must of been requested [03:33:13] wasn't [03:33:27] not by an admin anyway [03:43:18] this is the person who deleted the wiki if that helps, insisting that there is no way that it could of been the fault of Miraheze is kind of annoying even if the issue is already resolved. [03:51:55] Um [03:51:57] Thanks, this does help track chain of events [03:52:12] <.gtbot> is it the same person on the other wiki? [03:53:02] We definitely should not be deleting wikis without a request… [03:53:37] <.gtbot> bruh [05:01:42] How do I access wiki forums in my wiki? [05:43:34] How do I become an established user? [06:23:18] That's not a black and white question [07:08:20] So, How do I? [07:13:37] Depends on the wiki [07:13:47] And what you mean by established [07:17:21] Loathsome Characters Wiki [07:18:24] I want a page made for someone I think deserves it [07:19:14] He is certainly Loathsome [07:23:17] He deserves it for being such a Loathsome Jerk [07:24:00] I would strongly suggest you read the content policy [07:24:17] If you're referring to a living person, you would be on a very fine line [07:24:45] If it's a character, you should look at the wikis guides for creating pages and what's allowed [07:24:49] Then do it [07:25:15] It says zi have to be a Established User first [07:25:56] Do they have a process for drafts? [07:26:17] We can't help much with local policies though. You need to contact the local team. [07:26:57] What is that? [07:27:05] How do I do that? [07:27:35] A process for allowing you to submit articles for review [07:28:01] Talk page of main page, something central like a community Noticeboard [07:28:06] Maybe their discord server [07:31:35] Oh, ok [07:40:28] I believe the Reception wikis/Qualitipedia could have worked out well if there were brains involved, and properly so [07:41:18] Can I please remind you a code of conduct applies in here [07:41:29] Yes [07:42:58] I don't believe I've read it, but if it involves not speaking of _that_ then I will comply. [07:50:56] I suggest you rephrase [07:51:01] Are you involved in Loathsome Characters Wiki? [07:51:11] "if they were brains involved" [07:51:13] No, why? [07:51:29] Just wanted to check [07:51:46] Still, Can I have someone else to confirm this character is Loathsome? [07:51:53] Just wanted to double check [07:51:55] Not in here, no [07:52:01] It's way in the past for me now, the only thing I have now would be the pages on Wayback Machine. [07:52:43] We are not able to provide support with local wiki policies unless there's no local admins and you need counter vandalism or abuse help or it's one of the core wikis. [07:53:10] We can't know what every one of the 5000 wikis has as a policy [07:58:41] I confess I could see there being good intentions with Qualitipedia, just that… well, how do I say this... [07:59:39] I had the primary self-given goal of having it clean and with a proper "tone" so to speak [08:00:18] …and I'd also be a good bit critical and also wanted people sourcing things [08:04:20] There was a lack of care among contributors for sourced or reasonable accusations [08:04:29] Most of it was fairly childish [08:05:31] "fairly balanced, meaningful or substantiated by independent referencing" [08:05:40] Or of comedic value [08:05:50] According to a reasonable person [08:06:07] Because we did have one wiki think sticking a label on saying this is satire would work [08:06:28] "Cringe" would be the right word to describe it in that state… [08:07:54] It was the kinda reaction I'd expect of primary school kids in the playground when one stole the others pen or they were having a tantrum. Not suited for being preserved for the world online. [08:13:11] I didn't like what I saw either [08:28:11] Uh, I've had a task created in phabricator for five days without anyone working on it? [08:43:56] link? [08:56:41] https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T11034 [08:58:01] idk if MacFan is online [08:58:20] I am scared [08:58:30] I did a mistake and I don’t know how to fix it [08:58:37] where [08:58:47] Villains Wiki [08:58:54] I deleated Joker [08:58:59] By mistake I might add [08:59:08] there's such wiki on Miraheze? lol [08:59:49] I do not think so [09:00:00] You can undelete pages [09:00:10] But I saved it [09:00:14] By mistake [09:00:21] What? [09:00:25] this server is for Miraheze, the wiki platform especially [09:00:42] Can I please DM you? [09:00:47] [1/2] please take convos about other places to #offtopic [09:00:47] [2/2] alse yeah, undeletion is a thing [09:00:57] no, please read my bio [09:01:03] Mediawiki doesn't do deletion [09:01:12] It just sets a flag that says deleted [09:01:24] But I am not random [09:01:31] dude [09:01:32] Yes you are [09:01:39] Also please respect others [09:02:10] If you DM legroom, you will be removed from the server [09:02:30] anyway, I suggest to leave a note on admin of that wiki telling you did this by mistake, hope they'll understand [09:02:47] How? [09:02:57] If you can delete, you can normally undelete [09:03:05] we talk about FANDOM? [09:03:08] @huh51 is this a Miraheze wiki? [09:03:41] I do not think so, but by the way, I have someone I wanted added to Loathsome Characters Wiki [09:04:08] If it is not a Miraheze wiki, we can't help. Please contact local wiki people or use the mediawiki discord. [09:04:13] you already was told what to do w/ user status, please contact admins of that wili itself [09:04:21] I did? [09:04:21] We are also not helping you with loathsome charecters wiki [09:04:46] then why you continue to bring this up here? [09:07:04] if it's still about FANDOM wiki - check who are mods/admins, go to their profile pages, there is message wall [09:11:53] <.labster> Okay, this isn't a generic wiki help channel for wikis hosted by other companies. Let's just end this discussion here. [15:05:15] @Site Reliability Engineers There may be a bug with CreateWiki, since a few requests I've handled had a "Redis server error: socket error on read socket" error and the requestors don't get their rights (https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/33397 - the second time this has happened recently) [15:17:00] https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T11046 [15:18:24] @tali64 only in the last 7 hours by any chance? [15:19:07] There was request I approved 13 hours ago that threw an error [15:19:31] hmm [15:19:36] doesn't match then [15:19:42] well maybe [15:20:41] that's in the something went wrong range [15:20:46] but not the very wrong [15:22:56] @tali64 there's a huge increase in jobs too [15:23:03] I have a theory [15:23:12] redis might be overloaded [15:23:55] @Site Reliability Engineers: we have a spike in redis errors and a critically high job queue, please review [15:24:19] polcompballanarchywiki probably needs all jobs running [15:25:32] MacFan4000: ^ [15:27:41] @tali64: Thank you for reporting that [15:35:12] there's also global user page [15:35:17] so loginwiki [15:35:23] Hi - is there a way where I can contact Support (or with a staff privately) in regards to a wiki? [15:35:47] I can give you an email if you tell me briefly what the issue is [15:36:02] Hey how can we change the name of a wiki page [15:36:23] You should see a move page button in the more menu [15:36:28] there's a wiki named Wikitube that is just directly copying content from another wiki (in a diff. platform - Fandom) [15:36:39] Oh okay thank [15:36:56] I've previously sent an email before, however I've yet to be replied back. [15:37:08] i've restarted redis (it was running long running scripts?) [15:37:14] @eterhox I opened a thread [15:37:20] Noted [15:37:41] @paladox weird, can you try running jobs for polcompballanarchywiki and loginwiki as it's a huge backlog [15:37:57] it seems restarting has deleted all the backlog [15:38:21] is there any wiki request we can see if it works [15:38:43] @paladox deleting all jobs backlog will also solve it [15:38:55] might be some people who need to manually purge pages though [15:38:59] especially on polcompballanarchywiki [15:39:21] also 268 thumbnail generations lost [15:39:54] iirc not worried about thumberneils [15:40:00] they'll get generated on page load [15:40:25] jobs are generally not a major issue if lost [15:41:06] i thought we had save the jobs to disks (seems we only save to memory) [15:41:42] we should wait an hour or so to make sure it doesn't go unhappy before closing the task [15:42:05] @paladox i'm not that worried. you can retrigger most jobs. [15:42:22] i'd rather we didn't loose them as there's an impact but meh [15:47:33] @tali64 I'm fairly confident that fixed it [15:47:49] @paladox what exactly was the long running thing [15:48:04] it says a LUA script [15:48:07] so EVAL [15:48:13] i don't know exactly what it was tho [15:48:28] @paladox could it not have been individually killed [15:48:29] you can see the cpu spike on jobchron [15:48:40] i tried to and it said no script was running [15:48:44] Ye I saw the sudden horrid performance [15:48:46] Weird [15:49:08] or maybe i had to do SHUTDOWN NOSAVE [16:22:53] @paladox performance on redis still doesn't look perfect [16:22:57] It's much better [16:23:34] There's an increase in commands & misses per second [16:23:36] https://grafana.miraheze.org/d/HZGjmu_Zz/redis?orgId=1&from=now-12h&to=now [18:15:13] I requested a Wiki to be deleted and will one of you guys delete it ASAP because I lost interest in the show [18:15:50] lol [18:16:28] it's funny that you say ASAP about wiki deletion [18:19:40] Because I want it deleted that’s why [18:22:35] It will get deleted [21:53:41] My wiki has been an advertisement page for five days... [21:56:15] oof [21:57:56] resolved [21:59:45] thanks [22:03:46] right now we can delete the wiki (as in it'll hide it so you won't be able to access it via url) but it won't truely be deleted as we are currently resolving an issue before re-starting deletions. [22:11:28] Ok Thanks [22:17:33] @lovesnextmissessandra what's your wiki [22:20:17] It's this one I believe: [22:24:00] Yes it is [22:24:15] That’s the one I want deleted [22:31:49] That’s the one I want deleted https://samandcat.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [22:40:27] deleted [22:44:08]