[04:22:16] My wiki is having some issues with the Legends template. It isn't filling in the squares with the designated color. All templates and modules are on the wiki, and all are the most recent versions from Wikipedia. Any guess as to why this is happening? [04:36:14] tried w/o `#`? [10:36:11] <_ar1a024> Nothing changed [10:36:29] <_ar1a024> Idk what else I'm supposed to do [10:37:08] <_ar1a024> Most tables have wikitable as a class [10:37:34] <_ar1a024> And it's still not showing as 100% [10:49:58] it's better to set up 100% for mobile, than limiting width for desktop, on my opinion [10:51:09] [1/6] on my wiki [10:51:10] [2/6] `@media only screen and (max-width: 850px) { [10:51:10] [3/6] .mw-body table { / All tables go to 100% / [10:51:10] [4/6] width: 100%; [10:51:10] [5/6] margin-left: 0; [10:51:11] [6/6] margin-right: 0; }` [10:54:13] [1/5] my other wiki w/ PortableInfobox [10:54:14] [2/5] `@media only screen and (max-width: 720px ) { [10:54:14] [3/5] .portable-infobox { [10:54:14] [4/5] margin: 15px 0; } [10:54:15] [5/5] }` [12:01:10] <_ar1a024, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> What's portable infobox [12:02:18] one of the method to create templates [12:02:57] I saw later that you're trying to style main page so that's probably irrelevant [12:03:12] the point of doing opposite stands tho [12:05:44] <_ar1a024> Ah [12:06:11] <_ar1a024> So what if most tables on the wiki have the class (.wikitable) [12:06:23] <_ar1a024> Some tables work and others dont [12:06:52] <_ar1a024> Cause some work and some dont [12:07:33] <_ar1a024> Darn I can't send the link [12:25:28] gotta /auth w/ both to send links [12:26:08] `.mw-body table` will target any table, no matter which class they have themselves [12:26:56] bear in mind that order in CSS file plays role too [12:27:17] conflict between rules mean that some might overrun desired one [13:41:20] [1/5] you might be missing [13:41:20] [2/5] `Template:Greater color contrast ratio` [13:41:20] [3/5] which also needs [13:41:21] [4/5] `Module:Color contrast [13:41:21] [5/5] Module:Color contrast/colors` [13:42:04] assuming you snagged legends from wikipedia [13:42:22] I'll give it a shot and let you know what happens. Thanks. [14:13:33] Hey! 👋🏻 [14:13:40] One small business I have. [14:13:51] Something strange happened to my wiki. [14:14:04] It doesn't shows picture, don't know why. [14:14:06] 🤔 [14:14:32] And I know about #announcements, but how long this problem can occur? [14:30:03] The problem is supposed to be solved now. Please post some screenshots/links here [14:30:27] ( Or create a thread in #support ) [15:04:59] Can I just apologize for this whole argument the other day. The thing is, I really like Miraheze, it is probably one of the best wiki farms out there. I was only trying to help out but I am sorry for causing drama cause of it. [15:13:18] Looking at the conversation, I don't really see how it could be considered an argument; we're open to suggestions, but some (such as including ads in every wiki) will most likely not be approved by the community [15:15:27] I mean I understand that [15:16:30] like this anouncement right here is mainly what caused it [15:17:39] Miraheze makes an announcement for donations at least every year; it's not a new thing [15:18:03] alright that's good to know [15:18:56] although I did have an idea idk how well it would suit though [15:22:03] you mind if I share it @tali64? [15:22:18] Of course, go ahead [15:29:07] [1/2] So what if you could enable ads to be displayed on a wiki you are a owner or admin in. The thing is like 20-30% of the ad revenue would go back to the owners. It would be split between them depending on how many admins have added say a paypal account to it. The other 80-70% percent would go directly to miraheze to help cover expenses. So it would be up to the c [15:29:07] [2/2] ommunity wether or not they want ads but they get a reward for it if they do. Idk it's just an idea. [15:30:16] even if admins of some wiki won't be against ads, editor and readers of that wiki might [15:30:29] Hmm...I doubt the community will be supportive of the idea, but at least it's better than just having ads on wikis that people didn't want and are getting nothing for [15:30:32] unless there will be local discussion I guess [15:31:31] when I say ads, I am not talking about so many ads like on fandom to the point where it lags the page. Like 1 or 2 ads on the screen which wouldn't be in contact with the content of a page. [15:31:32] again, no ads policy is of the things Miraheze was founded in 2015 - and still going w/ [15:31:47] those are still ads man [15:31:54] ight [15:31:58] again it was just an idea [15:32:52] check out telepedia, they don't have a lot of ads, sure, but - they are really hard to ignore lol [15:33:26] fandom also has shit ton load of tracking [15:33:32] or whatever [15:33:46] I mean it runs alot smoother with an adblocker lol [15:34:31] like fandom with ads, "Lags the hell out" fandom with adblocker, "Like night and day" [15:34:45] and when Miraheze users gonna use ad blocks - what the point in having ads in the first place lol [15:35:41] I mean to be fair that's a personal decision that the users make. You can't exactly control that. [15:37:05] like some people have personal beliefs against using an adblocker because to them it is, "Stealing people's money" [15:48:00] can I ask something though that has me wondering [15:52:09] If money is alright now then why did some of you make wikiforge a few months ago. Like wasn't it supposed to help fund Miraheze for a little while before it started funding wikitide. [15:53:47] the help funding thing fell flat on its face during discussion [15:53:52] then drama happened [15:54:15] and they created wikitide for themselves [15:54:20] ok [15:55:00] Having even an affiliated badge anywhere was flatly declined [15:55:12] Imma be honest though I don't see the point in using wikiforge when wikitide is a free alternative. Like to me it is mainly just 1 runs a little smoother. [15:55:14] The community have a very strong aversion to add [15:55:34] @swordhavoc WikiForge has some of the more complex stuff [15:56:03] oh? [15:56:03] and that's getting out of channel's scope tbh [15:56:11] I wouldn't say money is alright. We always operate on a very low margin and have to beg every year. We're just not at risk of bankruptcy. [15:56:12] alright that's fine [15:59:01] idk zppix was talking about the fact that you guys have enough money to last you the better end of a year. But the announcement on the homepage is still there. Which tbh in my personal opinion the anouncement on homepages of wikis is just as distracting as an advertisement. [15:59:41] Yea, we have enough to last until Christmas [15:59:52] We'll have to beg as always at the next fundraiser [16:00:02] And we won't make any profit [16:02:04] Idk something about that makes me worried but it's probably just me. [16:02:44] when it became clear that Miraheze will stay, people actually started donating more [16:03:11] tho I don't have any statistic, just based on convos here [16:03:23] I'm glad that's the case lol [16:06:51] didn't you guys say to prevent wikis from being deleted it would be moved to be archive.org so people could still download thier wikis? [16:07:27] sorry I am not too familiar with it [16:10:01] [[Backups]] [16:10:01] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Backups [16:10:01]

[16:10:39] that's really cool actually [16:11:04] so in the end almost nothing is lost [16:11:45] private wikis dumps don't get uploaded to IA tho [16:12:42] in any way, admins should be responsible for their wiki, by not letting closed due to inactivity in the first place [16:15:30] yeah [16:27:13] It worries me every year [16:27:23] I would love for people to donate regularly [16:31:32] Ugh [16:31:34] Is MacFan available these days? [16:34:57] Individuals don't scale [16:35:01] What's the problem [17:44:44] I just wish there was a way for you guys get more funds besides donations [17:50:10] We've considered being a domain reseller and merch before [17:50:26] I think merch might be cool [17:50:33] It might be [17:50:41] But we'd generally need to bulk order [17:51:21] it would be funny to see you guys selling miraheze themed mugs lol [17:52:34] or like create an energy drink [17:54:10] Typically though, merch has very low margins [17:54:26] and high costs for people buying which makes it unattractive [17:54:27] To make a profit, we'd need to charge like double the cost [17:54:41] And we'd also need to know many people would buy one [17:55:20] so like £35-60 shirts [17:55:28] I mean there is also like making profits from youtube or something [17:55:28] No [17:55:35] More like about £20 [17:55:41] But utter shit quality [17:56:22] not sure anyone here wants to maintain a YouTube channel [17:56:31] And also we'd have to send them out [17:56:39] Like if we offer 500 T-shirts [17:56:47] Someone has to send out 500 orders [17:56:51] I'm thinking about some service where you create your own designs and they sell them [17:57:00] no way we have the capital to handle that in-house [17:57:22] yeah that's true [17:57:33] like you have to spend money to make money [17:57:42] which MH doesn't have a lot of [17:57:48] so it's the eternal cycle [17:58:25] 3 [17:58:49] We could use a service like that [17:58:55] But then they'd take stupid fees too [17:59:07] We'd probably have to charge at least £15 a T-shirt [17:59:15] And no idea if they'd deliver international [17:59:16] that's rather modest [17:59:30] most services I've seen would require you to charge double that [17:59:53] Me and Reception have researched the idea for years [17:59:56] It's just not feasible [18:00:24] I considered it heavily last time I organized the fundraiser [18:00:40] I just found one that charges £8 a T-shirt online [18:00:46] In 10 seconds of googling [18:00:55] clearly our Google results are different [18:01:02] Try print full [18:01:07] Printful* [18:01:11] perhaps you're seeing services that contour to the UK while I see services that contour to the US [18:01:26] But we do need to consider that we need someone who can deliver most places [18:01:33] Users in places like Russia are a no [18:02:24] even before invasion UK amazon and ebay sellers didn't send to Russia lol [18:03:24] @theoneandonlylegroom I don't think we legally can [18:03:28] I had to ask my friend to accept stuff on his address and then he shipped me big box [18:03:45] We have to follow international sanctions [18:03:57] I said "even before war" [18:04:07] so lol [18:04:09] Yes [18:04:16] Before it might have considerable [18:04:21] Now it's a flat out no [18:08:11] There are sites out that do print on demand that dont charge the seller [18:18:31] Wdym by that? Like something like ebay? [18:18:39] or fiverr [18:18:48] not sure what you're replying to [18:20:28] idk tbh [18:38:21] `fandom` interwiki prefix works on Miraheze? [19:42:36] yes [20:15:44] How's the US Company stuff going? [20:18:41] Hello! [20:18:42] OK, thanks! [20:20:57] Got verified :D [20:21:39] Going at the speed of US bureaucracy [20:22:31] So we have our EIN, and I just recently got the official letter in the mail that they approved it (which we already knew based on online records) [20:22:44] Approved the Articles of incorp that is [20:23:04] Just a question [20:23:12] Now we are a point where we have more paperwork to do lol [20:23:21] Do wikis come with "built-in" infoboxes? [20:23:27] No [20:23:27] Or do we have to build our own? [20:23:30] Yes [20:23:38] Ooh [20:23:45] Check the pins [20:23:53] I'm moving from Fandom; that'll be a challenge but it'll be fun [20:31:05] Is there any infobox template in another wiki I can use? [20:31:16] I'm not good with wiki CSS, let alone template-making [20:32:05] Zppix: what kind of company did y'all incorporate? [20:33:02] TheresNoTime: atm we are an Illinois Not-For-Profit, with the plan to apply for 501c3 [20:34:17] Huh [20:35:09] fellowesin, you are better off using the PortableInfobox extension [20:35:36] How do we install it? [20:35:51] I'm sorry, I'm very used to Fandom's warm waters [20:36:52] you would use Special:ManageWiki/extensions (i think thats the correct page title) [20:38:19] Cool! [20:38:26] Is there a quote template extension as well? [20:40:39] That page should have all the extensions that we have [20:41:31] In fact Portable Infobox is based on fandoms infoboxes, so you can most likely take infobox from there and import it directly, and have it work, as long as the extension is enabled [20:41:53] One of the very few things that fandom done right xD [20:42:11] Yeah [20:43:45] Couldn't find a quoute template, unfortunately [20:44:19] yeah, just enable PI and import infoboxes, you'll be good [20:44:36] PI and import infoboxes? [20:44:58] PortableInfobox [20:45:15] you got a wiki on Miraheze already? [20:45:56] as for quote, I believe on fandom quotes are simple templates [20:46:19] I can drop you one from my wiki [20:46:45] or, again, import from some fandom wiki [20:49:18] [1/5] the import process is [20:49:18] [2/5] * go to `Special:Export` page on source wiki [20:49:19] [3/5] * get the file [20:49:19] [4/5] * go to `Special:Import` on your wiki [20:49:19] [5/5] * uploaded that file [20:52:30] Zppix: trying to figure out if non-US folx can be a trustee of a Not For Profit Corp. — looks like they *can* afaict [21:08:25] TheresNoTime: AFAIK, that *should* be fine, the only requirement is that the incorporator be US [23:14:12] I gave your suggestion a look, and I already have the Greater color contrast ratio template, along with the two necessary modules. 🤔 [23:16:53] The color box template is impacted by the error as well, so I'm not sure what the problem might be. [23:41:04]