[01:39:51] @jumbog You need to /auth before you can post links [01:42:36] Thanks [07:39:22] You're right. That's odd <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [08:17:13] quick question if i put a logo for my wiki does it also update the favicon [08:18:15] No [08:18:50] so i have to upload a separate favicon ? [08:38:39] yes [08:39:05] and separate image (png) for mobile devices to use as favicon [08:39:25] alright [08:40:07] historically favicons being very small meant people would make an optimized, good looking images for its [08:42:31] and different file format too [08:43:00] well whatever logo i do end up making ill just resize and put to .ico [08:43:51] I like redoing it pixel style lol [08:45:59] but does miraheze need it to be 16x16 or whatever size it is [08:46:39] because from memory with other website projects i just make the ico a square of any size and the browser resizes it [08:56:54] 32, 48 [08:57:21] I don't think there are limits now? [08:58:55] or when the logo is text, name of the wiki, or abbreviation, it's only right to make something else for icon [09:00:16] chances you'll make letters to be recognisable on the final 16x16 image are rather small [10:19:12] I don't fucking understand english but [10:19:13] @pizzajp Watch your language. [10:19:30] can u unblock my global block thing [10:19:57] i can't make my acc on friends server [10:23:57] Turn off your VPN [10:24:06] i ain't using vpn [10:24:38] bro who gonna use vpn for wiki [10:24:43] not me [10:24:47] Many people [10:24:56] y [10:33:20] Country they are in, privacy [10:35:44] both cases for me lol [10:36:44] just register from your normal IP, the use VPN all you want [10:37:43] maybe it's set on router or network you are using [10:41:20] what? [10:44:49] sites can be blocked in country, like Instagram and Twitter in Russia now, OR countries can block some users, like Etsy now does w/ Russian IPs [10:45:03] VPN helps in both cases [10:46:09] anyway, the reason of block is listed clearly [10:50:38] [1/3] anyway, Miraheze blocks VPN and proxy IPs from registering as anti spam/vandalism measure [10:50:38] [2/3] if you don't use them, check if your network actually does somewhere, or try different network w/ normal IP [10:50:39] [3/3] after registration you can continue to use old network/settings [11:47:11] [1/2] Common.css/js will target all users, but how to target only anons? [11:47:11] [2/2] I see user groups can be targeted, but there has to be a way for non registered ones? [12:04:35] uh [12:04:38] I dont understand [12:15:17] <_ar1a024> How do I change the image thumbnail for my wiki [12:15:26] I`m using normal IP ig [12:15:28] and blocked [12:15:28] what [12:17:19] well, if you are so sure then email to `stewards@miraheze.org`, attach screenshot and your IP [12:18:17] uh [12:18:20] what IP [12:18:43] Your current IP address is""""" one? [12:19:22] [1/2] bruh [12:19:23] [2/2] [[w:IP address]] [12:19:23] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address [12:19:23] [12:19:54] PageImages extension (very odd tbh) or WikiSEO extension (enabled by default) [12:20:10] I dont see that [12:24:46] [1/2] [12:24:47] [2/2] you could google that tho [12:26:07] ty [12:27:20] <_ar1a024, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> What's wrong with page items? [12:29:14] it has strange algorithm of prioritising which image should be used, there seems to be settings tho, but they seem to be broken too [12:30:07] <_ar1a024> So how would I do that with wikiSEO [12:31:13] [1/2] but in WikiSEO code you have to manually provide it which image must be used [12:31:14] [2/2] an alternative to that would be injecting its code into infobox, for example (so it'll get automatically an image you provided in infobox) [12:34:45] [1/2] speaking of which - why I haven't done that? and hook page description along the way [12:34:45] [2/2] lol [13:03:52] [1/6] Could I get help deleting these 5 files? I get a swift error when I try doing it [13:03:52] [2/6] https://polcompballanarchy.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Lexsiekism.png [13:03:53] [3/6] https://polcompballanarchy.miraheze.org/wiki/File:HamburgDivisionChart.png [13:03:53] [4/6] https://polcompballanarchy.miraheze.org/wiki/File:H4NSb2S4OFf.png [13:03:53] [5/6] https://polcompballanarchy.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Gelatinism_polcompball.png [13:03:53] [6/6] https://polcompballanarchy.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Model5.jpeg [13:07:04] you can disable previews of links in discord by putting links inside `<...>` [13:09:38] True, I forgot that [17:10:17] am I understanding correctly that `subst:` can turn wiki text (w/ links and stuff) into plain text? [17:12:33] Well it substitutes transcluded content for actual (wiki)text — https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Substitution [17:12:34] No; `nowiki` does that [17:15:23] my infoboxes have a first paragraph part [17:15:51] the input is just normal wiki text [17:16:21] but for WikiSEO description I need the plain text [17:17:14] i.e. not `[[album]]` from normal paragraph wiki text but just `album` [17:17:14] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/album [17:18:33] I'll be honest, I don't understand this page [17:18:41] hence why I'm asking [17:18:57] (it might not be what you're looking for by the sounds of it) [17:19:06] seems so [17:19:27] I know textextract extension but no idea how I can apply it [17:20:36] can you link to an example? [17:20:47] example of what? [17:20:58] a page/template/whatever you're trying to do this to [17:21:25] I have infoboxes and wikiseo meta template separately rn [17:21:34] lemme [17:27:38] eh, I remember now why I decided to not do that lol [17:28:11] the image part, I made it too complicated, although maybe there's a way to fix that [17:29:20] the idea was to add WikiSEO into infobox and make it use image and description from infobox parameters [17:32:30] [1/4] one of infoboxes [17:32:30] [2/4] [17:32:30] [3/4] if the image parameter would be just manually given file name, there won't be troubles lol [17:32:31] [4/4] but I made dependent on title mostly, and file name in very rare cases [17:35:27] I have simpler infoboxes which do exactly that tho [17:36:02] so, I'm still looking for solution for text [17:36:49] [17:42:23] [1/5] and you've confirmed that: [17:42:23] [2/5] ``` [17:42:23] [3/5] {{#seo:|description={{{paragraph|}}}}} [17:42:23] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23seo:Template: [17:42:24] [4/5] ``` [17:42:24] [5/5] inserts poorly formatted text? (i.e. `[[album]]` and not `album`) [17:42:24] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/album [17:42:39] because it should be parsed [17:45:37] ref. https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-WikiSEO#adding-dynamic-values [18:09:09] confirmed what [18:09:17] <_ar1a024, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> So what do I do? [18:10:47] <_ar1a024> Oh wiat [18:10:50] <_ar1a024> I think I know [18:30:15] <_ar1a024> The image isn't changing [18:39:58] is there anyone who might be able to help me with the CreateWiki extension? I'm getting an error [18:40:39] What's the error @dusti_71873 [18:40:48] And is this on miraheze or your own hosting [18:40:51] [1/4] An error occurred: [18:40:51] [2/4] Error 1146: Table 'thetunsk_mw14734.cw_wikis' doesn't exist [18:40:52] [3/4] Function: Wikimedia\Rdbms\Database::sourceFile( /home/thetunsk/public_html/extensions/CreateWiki/includes/Hooks/Handlers/../../../sql/patches/patch-cw_wikis-add-default-to-wiki_closed.sql ) [18:40:52] [4/4] Query: ALTER TABLE cw_wikis MODIFY COLUMN wiki_closed SMALLINT NOT NULL DEFAULT '0' [18:40:55] my own hosting [18:41:08] @dusti_71873 you need to create the table [18:41:24] CreateWiki's table creation is not automated [18:41:42] We do not recommend the extension unless you have very good Sysadmin knowledge [18:42:00] I appreciate that [18:42:13] it's proving to be challenging but I love a good challenge [18:42:36] Its an advanced extension [19:06:34] <_ar1a024> Is this correct? [19:06:50] @rhinosf1 - sooooo I've finally poked around enough and found that the table /is/ there... but there's a prefix. Is there somewhere within the extension itself I can edit to include the prefix? I.e. it wanted thetunsk_mw14734.cw_wikis but my table is thetunsk_mw14734.mwij_cw_wikis [19:07:50] no, the image link has to be just file name [19:07:54] You could find and replace any reference to cw_wikis [19:08:16] It's probably too early in the process to use the DB prefix [19:09:13] Can you not drop the prefix though [19:11:50] [1/2] yeah [19:11:50] [2/2] and image_alt is for description of image, not alternative image file [19:12:28] [[mw:Extension:WikiSEO]] [19:12:28] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiSEO [19:12:28] [19:14:36] <_ar1a024> So I've done it and it hasn't changed [19:14:40] <_ar1a024> Do I have to wait a bit [19:19:31] <_ar1a024> I don't understand what I'm doing wrong [19:19:41] probably [19:20:04] you don't have pageimages enabled tho? it might override wikiseo [19:20:07] <_ar1a024> Because I always get the wrong image [19:20:24] <_ar1a024> Lemme check [19:21:17] <_ar1a024, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I do have it enabled [19:21:38] here you go, disable it [19:25:48] <_ar1a024> It's still not working [19:25:58] <_ar1a024> Sad moment [19:27:01] why i cant add Cargo ? [19:46:18] You need to request it on [[SN]], only stewards can activate it(that is what the required "managewiki-restricted" permission means), due to how heavy it can be on large wiki's. [19:46:18] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SN [19:46:19] [19:55:41] should be this? [19:57:47] it works [20:08:52] <_ar1a024, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> YES [20:09:00] <_ar1a024> How did you do ir [20:12:47] I just tried it on my server [20:12:57] try post the link as new message [20:13:20] previews in old messages aren't meant to change [20:13:46] and yeah, anything regarding extensions takes some time [20:25:03] <_ar1a024> Aight thanks [21:56:28] is it possible to have both a latest revisions dump AND all revisions dump available at the same time? we'd use each for very different purposes (e.g., bot procedures vs backing up the wiki) [21:59:04] right now I'm trying to do pywikibot stuff on the full dump because I don't want to delete it to generate a latest revisions one, that seems unsafe for backup purposes. but it's much more time consuming because it has to comb through every revision to find the latest one [22:00:18] Can't you download the files locally? [22:01:53] yes. but this is a case where I like the way ducks for cover Fandom does it; when they generate dumps they generate links for both kinds. also it seems inefficient to have to delete the full dump whenever I want to grab the latest revisions one, just to then remake the full backup [22:04:12] They put it in the Special:Statistics page which is odd [22:08:25] I don't know about processing cost of generating a dump vs storage costs of hosting additional backups, but my general approach has been to try to avoid slamming the API/servers, which is the whole reason I'm using the dump for some bot work, and I assume it's costlier to generate than the store [23:09:57] <.labster> How would everyone feel if we changed the name of Miraheze to the letter X? [23:10:10] <.labster> Everyone's doing it these days. [23:13:01] I don't know about the X, but something that tells it's something related to 'wikis' wouldn't hurt, imho [23:14:47] There's no better time for a rebranding than this lapse, I guess (I know the comment was a joke but still) [23:15:44] <.labster> It's not a great time for rebranding as we already registered the nonprofit, but I guess we could always make a DBA. [23:21:13] I don't think Elon would be too happy about that; we could change it to M, though [23:29:26] <.labster> Elon named his company 𝕏, not X. [23:30:36] <.labster> [1/2] I love the wikipedia talk page: [23:30:37] <.labster> [2/2] > For the love of God, maintain the letter X as the main redirection for when someone searches for 'X'