[02:58:10] Hey SRE/anyone that knows anything about create wiki. We are still struggling with it. Specifically, we are having issues with suffixes and have tried many things. Anyone that can help? [02:58:37] @tali64 @zippybonzo @dusti_71873 [03:27:51] This kind of help as should be asked for in mediawiki server as its unrelated to miraheze @globe_x [03:31:03] i mean tbf this is probably a better place for CW questions than the mediawiki discord although we offer limited support :p. im kind of just confused as to why those people specifically were pinged lol [03:40:42] At the very least then, it should be done in a #support thread or something, instead of clogging up #general for several days though [04:08:36] I kinda think it's in dead end now, w/ people who could help not being active here [04:09:51] not to mention that SRE is currently understaffed [05:13:49] they were pinged (probably) because they are sysadmins for the project theyre making [06:26:43] third time in a week getting logged out on Meta on my phone :/ [06:37:10] anyone here have experience with abuse filters? [06:37:36] because apparently logic reasoning doesn't apply to abuse filters lol [06:54:29] Nevermind I decided against it [07:46:51] A note in here: help requests should not be moved to DM without reason. Please ask before friend requests / DMs. @globe_x @Cocopuff2018 etc [08:12:20] That's because CA is simple (ish) [08:16:08] Sort of true, I've purged the database for this wiki like 5 times this week. [09:49:10] They are the wikis system admins [10:18:35] <_sentinel., replying to _sentinel.> Bump [10:36:41] [1/2] you better make thread in #support [10:36:42] [2/2] convos get mixed up in general very often [10:37:44] [1/2] which wiki? [10:37:44] [2/2] if this all getting off Miraheze you better move it to #offtopic [10:39:55] tbh I don't understand which font you are talking about [10:58:59] <_sentinel., replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I'm talking about the font for the wikitext [10:59:50] <_sentinel.> I can write something in the screwy font in my wiki for you to compare if ya need it [11:01:29] <_sentinel.> First image is the default font on Wikimedia, the second is the screwy font in my wiki [11:03:04] <_sentinel.> They look awful similar but I'm sure something's changed since the diacritics on my wiki's font are off [11:03:43] can you check w/ element inspector names of fonts? [11:04:07] also, which skins you're comparing [11:04:47] Eng Wikipedia recently switched to Vector 2022, it is also default skin on Miraheze nowadays, previously in both cases it was just Vector [11:07:03] but I can't tell if there were some kind of updates or changes, I'm not a sys admin, and I avoid using Vector 2022 [11:08:26] and, you are the only admin on the wiki? [11:09:03] <_sentinel.> There're two other bureaucrats but I'm the active one [11:09:37] <_sentinel.> Another user's said that the font seems to have changed so it's hopefully not something on my end [11:09:58] <_sentinel.> Just a screenshot from inspect element so I don't miss anything [11:10:23] man have mercy w/ screenshots lol [11:10:36] discord is terrible w/ such dimensions [11:10:58] and sadly no, this is not what I meant [11:11:21] you sure there were no changes on Common.css, Vector.css and Vector-2022.css [11:12:04] <_sentinel.> Yeah, basically nobody on my wiki touches those anyways [11:12:52] <_sentinel., replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I'm on PC and it shows up aight, but maybe that's just because I'm too used to shite dimensions [11:13:13] and I'm on mobile, but it still sucks on desktop [11:13:22] <_sentinel.> I'll screenshot smth better next time that comes up [11:13:53] since I'm on mobile now, I can't tell which font and CSS code might fix things for you [11:14:53] <_sentinel.> Ah alright [11:18:08] <_sentinel.> The font change in my wiki seems to have happened randomly a week or two ago if that helps, rechecked the changelog around that timeframe and nothing relevant pops up [11:18:31] could you drop the link to your wiki at least? [11:18:56] <_sentinel.> Sure https://t2k.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [11:25:37] disabling custom CSS restores default font, you can see it by checking your personal, user settings or by adding `?safemode=1` in URL [11:25:48] so, something in Common.css [11:26:32] if the last change there was in April, idk why you noticed it only in July [11:27:35] unless somehow magically your and your friends' browsers were holding on cache really bad [11:31:56] <_sentinel.> Hell if I know about that [11:34:02] <_sentinel.> All I know is that the visual change was as recent as I mentioned [11:38:39] the funny thing is that your entire wiki actually should be in glagolitic font, according to Common.css [11:39:07] was the rest stuff taken from Wikipedia? [11:40:57] <_sentinel.> Snagged it from another wiki, Wikipedia's common.css mostly maps over though [11:42:29] <_sentinel.> That wiki doesn't have the same font strangeness as mine fyi [11:42:46] can you remove or comment (put inside `/ ... /` this part? [11:46:17] well, seems normal for me now [11:47:01] you might need to wait a little or force the wiki to purge cache [11:47:45] [1/2] add `?action=purge` in URL [11:47:45] [2/2] there's an extension which adds an easy button for that tho [11:48:43] <_sentinel.> Already tried purging a few times but no change on my end, probably'll have to wait [11:48:59] try to clean your browser's cache [11:49:08] <_sentinel.> Alright it's changed [11:49:45] I guess that screwy font was used as fallback for glagolitic one [11:50:03] which was applied on entire wiki [11:50:33] why it didn't worked in the first place tho - it's a mystery [11:51:35] actually wait, maybe I do lol [11:52:14] <_sentinel.> Glagolitic font's returned to the default squiggly looking ones now instead of Noto Sans Glagolitic [11:52:45] google fonts import links are more complex [11:53:46] <_sentinel.> The special font for Glagolitic had been applied without the screwy changes to the rest of the wiki prior to this, so I'm not sure what went on there [11:54:06] you should apply that font only to class where those glagolitic writing are actually used, not the entire wiki [11:54:44] `body` is like a root class for styling [11:54:53] <_sentinel.> Yeah, I probably brute forced the font change in hindsight [11:55:24] and you need to use proper import link [11:56:35] Tryna get the LuaCache extension but it's not there yet. Is there an alternative, like manually using it as a module? [11:57:20] you sure you enabled the first extension? [11:57:31] like I said in support thread [11:57:46] Talking about LuaCache now [11:57:51] I did get variables to work [11:57:54] 👌 [11:57:56] what I mean [11:59:01] don't delete thread, please, just react mark it as <:DoneMH:775407710400675940> [11:59:07] I closed it [11:59:16] Did not delete [11:59:38] it's a thing huh [11:59:46] yup [11:59:50] could just say over there lol [12:00:18] but sadly, Lua is not my thing [12:07:27] <_sentinel., replying to theoneandonlylegroom> How would I go about this then? [12:11:11] [1/8] you need to create a class to use that font [12:11:12] [2/8] for example, you have a

w/ those writings [12:11:12] [3/8] let's call the class "glagol" [12:11:12] [4/8] in Common.css you add this: [12:11:13] [5/8] `.glagol { [12:11:13] [6/8] font-family: 'Noto Sans Glagolitic', sans-serif; }` [12:11:13] [7/8] and then use it: [12:11:14] [8/8] `

...` [12:12:43] <_sentinel.> So the font will have to be manually applied with `

/div` each time it is used in normal articles? [12:13:38] It’s not a Miraheze wiki, but the extension we are inquiring about is used on Miraheze and is developed by SRE. [12:13:48] [1/2] only if specify the class inside the div, like I said [12:13:49] [2/2] surely, your wiki has templates w/ div's w/ normal text [12:14:57] [1/2] and I'm repeating again - Miraheze SRE is currently understaffed, and those who are there rn didn't work on that extension directly [12:14:58] [2/2] the person who did is in another server, w/ hus own different project [12:16:20] We own and maintain the extension [12:16:36] It's perfectly reasonable to ask here as we're the only ones that can fix the issue [12:16:51] could you say this earlier lol [12:16:55] I do recommend a #support thread though, it's becoming a long topic [12:17:04] I believe they did [12:17:05] then create #support thread man [12:17:11] It's definitely not #offtopic [12:17:53] my bad [12:18:13] still, general channel is not the place for long support convos [12:18:25] because stuff gets mixed here a lot [12:18:29] Np, understood [12:22:08] <_sentinel., replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Added your aforementioned code, last thing seems to be that it causes a line break in the text, everything else looks great [12:24:50] [1/4] div is a block construction, it's always gonna render separately from everything else. [12:24:50] [2/4] I just mentioned it as example. [12:24:50] [3/4] for inline text you should use span: [12:24:51] [4/4] ...` [12:26:29] if you use that writing inline a lot, you can create a template, instead of typing span and class manually and constantly [12:27:44] <_sentinel.> Will go ahead and do that then, thanks a bunch for the help [12:28:46] [1/5] gonna be, Template:Glagol: [12:28:46] [2/5] `{{{1}}}/span` [12:28:46] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b1 [12:28:47] [3/5] then in text you go: [12:28:47] [4/5] `{{glagol|some text here}}` [12:28:47] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:glagol [12:28:47] [5/5] just make sure you won't leave accident line breaks in template [12:29:19] np [15:31:54] Is there a way to request a cli script to be run [15:46:34] [[Phabricator]] [15:46:34] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phabricator [15:46:35]

[16:39:32] Thanks [16:40:11] yo chaotic [16:40:27] you know Lua, right? [16:41:14] [1/2] can you give a hint here? [16:41:14] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1135541516912295976 [16:44:11] Never used luacache before [16:45:11] You can store variables on a page with the lua version of variables though [16:45:42] @ixnoah ^ [16:46:20] Yeah no I'm just importing some lua code and can't be assed to switch it from LuaCache [16:46:23] Looking into it [16:48:17] Not sure what the capabilities of it are [16:48:47] But if you are only storing stuff in page you can create an interface for lua variables [16:49:22] So you can use the same methods of luacache but have lua variables do the work [16:50:45] From a quick read I did see something about sitewide cache which I’m pretty sure you can’t do with variables [17:44:13] https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T11108 [19:21:38] How to make the footer and header class extend out like shown here? [20:57:40] that depends on skin, size of the page, your screen's resolution and, possibly, browser's zoom [20:58:14] like, this page isn't long, such behaviour of footer is expected [20:58:54] the resolution of your screen seems to be huge, or you zoomed the page out [20:59:29] I did zoomed the page out, yeah. My page doesn't seem to extend out for whatever reason though; this page does [21:00:24] using same skin, Timeless? [21:02:28] I use vector-2022 [21:02:54] I will try with Timeless skin [21:02:56] well, here you go, the first reason [21:03:17] drastically different skins behave differently [21:04:48] I see. Thank you for what shouldn't have been a problem! 😅 [21:10:54] aight, I'll be having 5 hours of sleep, bye bye [23:33:50] How do you give articles italicized names? [23:44:08] cause I need them for some articles [23:44:48] That means you're missing a module that allows for italicized titles; by the looks of it, you need to import it from Wikipedia [23:44:56] {{DISPLAYTITLE: ''TITLE''}} for ease of use. [23:44:56] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/DISPLAYTITLE:Template:_%27%27TITLE%27%27 [23:44:59] yes but how would I get it to work? [23:45:51] I'd have to copy the code for that one correct? [23:46:01] yres [23:46:24] Using Special:Export is recommended, but as long as you attribute it to Wikipedia, you should be fine [23:48:26] thank you guys! [23:58:30] 💀 ok it broke again