[01:33:41] [1/2] In the 6 and a half months I've been a wiki creator, I've noticed that a lot of people request wikis at subdomains that are taken up by "deleted" wikis that aren't actually deleted (they throw a 404 error if visited, but the database still exists), causing them to have to do more work to pick another subdomain because they didn't know there was a wiki there; as a result of this, I tho [01:33:41] [2/2] ught I'd share the idea of having another sitenotice explaining that the wiki is eligible for deletion unless reopened instead of throwing a 404 error, since a lot of people think that 404 error = no wiki here [02:51:36] is it possible to have the mobile advanced options toggle as a global setting? [02:57:42] Users are already given a warning that wikis are eligible for deletion after a specific amount of time. If users haven’t edited since that time, a wiki is deleted and made inaccessible, but CreateWiki doesn’t drop databases, so even if a wiki is deleted the database might still exist. [02:57:57] So 404 does = no wiki here, because it’s been deleted, just not dropped. [03:00:14] But I do advocate for better dropping of database after a wiki is deleted. [03:01:52] [1/7] My point is that deleted should mean that the database has been dropped; to illustrate my point, here is what the Dormancy Policy would look like: [03:01:52] [2/7] 0 days - Last edit [03:01:52] [3/7] 45 days - Inactivity notice [03:01:53] [4/7] 60 days - Wiki closed [03:01:53] [5/7] 180 days - Notice that wiki is eligible for deletion [03:01:53] [6/7] ~194 days - Wiki deleted & database dropped [03:01:53] [7/7] There's no reason why deletion should be done in two parts [06:53:03] @tali64 sadly the time to drop wikis at the moment is very high [07:45:16] hey folks, on our site we're writing a content policy. was wondering where we could submit it once it's finished so the mirhaeze stewards or admins can approve it? [07:45:48] That's not something we really do @peppermintpatty [07:46:06] As long as nothing in it goes against the main policies, you're fine [13:59:37] how do I request for reopening my wiki? [13:59:50] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_reopening_wikis [14:02:19] corget it because I saw Tali64's message https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1142654707165302928 [14:04:30] I can't have my own private wiki using MediaWiki because Bitnami is now gone [14:05:13] https://www.wikihow.com/Create-Your-Own-Offline-Wiki [14:06:26] You're able to request private wikis in RequestWiki; just tick the box saying "Private wiki" [14:11:30] it said "Will this wiki's main subject(s) be about living people?" what it does means? [14:12:09] about real people who are still alive [14:14:16] What if I tick that living people box? [14:14:33] It doesn't affect anything; it's just an indicator [16:59:15] My new wiki has been approved but I don't see a Login box. just Create Account box https://sc6caswiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [17:00:26] I checked my wiki and it's the same. [17:07:53] It did say not login in this one https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User_groups#Administrators [17:11:21] I don't see Special:Login anywhere [17:11:23] Login is in the ... menu next to create account [17:13:00] found it! thanks for the help! [17:19:38] I get a error message, it said There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please resubmit the form. [17:20:17] I guess someone hijacking my account? [17:20:40] https://tenor.com/view/frustrating-bbt-monday-work-give-up-gif-17444675 [17:45:41] No [17:45:51] That message uses big words to scare people [17:45:58] Try clearing your cookies [18:18:25] <.hecko, replying to combusto82> it's not gone per se, just that they've moved from normal applications to virtual machines [18:19:12] <.hecko> there's also an official guide by mediawiki for windows installation [18:50:19] Is there a list of bad titles for pages? [18:52:15] I was going to wait until MH finished transitioning to a new board before attempting to move again.  But the latest Fandom shenanigans (AI-generated fake FAQs!) is the push I need to move now. [18:52:16] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestImportDumpQueue/434 [19:49:42] I forget how to make multiple categories for my wiki [19:50:48] it should be Category: Page 1 | Page 2 (and it goes on) [19:56:21] [1/3] If you mean adding a page to multiple categories it is as simple as making multiple category "links" ie ```[[Category:Cars]] [19:56:21] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Cars [19:56:21] [2/3] [[Category:Mercedes]]``` [19:56:21] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Mercedes [19:56:21] [3/3] Shouldn't matter if they are on the same line, or different lines, or where in the page for that matter (though generally that sort of stuff gets put at the very bottom) [20:21:37] (Are forks from Fandom still being accepted?) [20:26:01] yes [20:26:15] But import yourself is much faster than waiting for someone to import [20:26:33] Especially when MH is currently overload now [20:31:03] The xml file is 3.6 MB. I thought the limit to import myself was 2 MB? [20:31:26] I just tried using special:import and I got a 504 gateway timeout. I'll try again tomorrow. [20:33:37] Special:import can only import really small file, like few KB [20:33:43] You should use the request import file [20:33:49] Page [20:33:52] ^ [20:33:54] There's no hard limit, but imports over 2MB via Special:Import generally fail; even imports under that size may take multiple tries [20:33:55] Special:Import is rubbish [20:36:34] Yeah I figured. Looks like my import request is ninth in line (eighth if you ignore the duplicate request for Chum Wiki), so I'll wait for it. [20:48:57] any idea why Special:MathStatus times out (504) on all mh wikis? [20:49:33] <_______________________________d> soomething weird happened [20:49:50] <_______________________________d> basically i couldn't sign in with my password unless i copy pasted it [20:49:55] <_______________________________d> 🤷 [20:51:03] @paladox any idea? [20:54:43] i wonder if should've i asked this in sre? [20:55:31] sre channel is mostly bot posting logs ... [20:55:53] general and support are main venues for reporting problems [20:55:57] in discord [20:56:20] but at this point I suggest to create a ticket on [[Phabricator]] [20:56:20] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phabricator [20:56:20] [20:59:03] hm okay [20:59:23] it might've been a while since this is happening [21:00:31] I think Math extension in general had problems for a long time [21:00:39] but I can't tell for sure [21:09:02] Hey all, is it alright to ask a general wiki question or two in here that doesn't really warrant a whole support topic? [21:09:26] I'm just wondering if folks have figured out how to embed a Youtube video into a page that starts midway, either with the youtube embed plug or something else. [21:10:28] That's what this channel is for [21:10:41] maybe specifying t= ? [21:11:04] i'm not sure, sorry [21:12:23] If I put 4pE5sPqRMDA?t=76, it says Provided ID could not be validated. Maybe there's a slightly different way to add it? I couldn't find anything in the docs though [21:15:03] Oh nevermind I found the answer in the general embedvideo extension page! It's like this {{#ev:youtube|URL|||||start=76}} [21:15:03] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23ev:Template:youtube [21:26:30] there you go [21:27:35] should i follow miraheze array of extensions for inspiration in setting up my own instance with extensions ?