[00:10:57] Closest is just Special:CentralAuth [00:15:07] ah [02:50:30] how do I add Dormancy Exemption Request for my current wiki? I don't want it to be deleted in 194 days like what happened to my old wikis [10:02:53] guc would be far too slow @Juesto [10:03:00] It struggles on wikimedia sites [10:48:05] [1/2] I'm currently looking to migrate a Wiki from WikiDot over to Miraheze, but I am confused as to how to having multiple languages actually works here. Over on WD, the english, chinese, french and spanish wikis are literally different wikis with entirely different domains, but would it be possible here to have them all as (sub)subdomains? [10:48:05] [2/2] I can't really make sense out of the documentation just yet due to being relatively new, so apologies for asking an RTFM questions. [10:56:13] [1/3] people can create separate wikis for different lang versions and tie them via interwiki linking, but I'm not sure how to make them work as subdomains [10:56:14] [2/3] I guess if you give them all custom domains, maybe? [10:56:14] [3/3] on other hand, there's Translation extension - in this case you have only one wiki w/ different lang options/switching, like Miraheze Meta wiki works [11:00:25] I don't think we've ever tested sub sub domains [11:18:27] [1/2] Thank you. [11:18:27] [2/2] Is interwiki linking here simply just a fancy placing [[lang:Article]] in a specific sidebar, or does it work more like Wikimedia's where there is a central Wikidata database with basically different language "views" on the content? [11:18:27] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/lang:Article [11:18:28] [11:20:19] [[Interwiki]] [11:20:19] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Interwiki [11:20:20] [11:21:01] your case must be Interlanguage I guess [11:21:36] I don't have enough knownledge of this subject so I'm leaving to other volunteers [11:41:42] Different language "views" would be the Translate extension [11:41:55] Where multiple language versions of an article exist on the same wiki [11:42:30] Interwiki would be linking a separate wiki in another language [11:47:57] [1/4] Huh, so if I get this right we could assign our own prefixes to make stuff like `[[cn:Article]]` to automatically mean `[[cn-domain:Article]]`. Neat. [11:47:57] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/cn:Article https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/cn-domain:Article [11:47:57] [2/4] However, my main concern is basically having some central configuration that allows us to save that, for example `directory` is the english version of FR's `repertoire` the ES's `directorio` and CN's `相关网站` in the same way in which Wikipedia knows that `Portada` and `Accueil_principal` are different language versions of the same page. [11:47:57] [3/4] I know Wikipedia relies on Wikidata for this, and wonder if this on a much smaller scale is also possible on Miraheze. So to make my question concise: [11:47:58] [4/4] Does Miraheze allows to centralize Interlanguage/Interwiki links like it is possible on Wikipedia? [12:09:44] @zesc7 we support WikiBase [12:09:59] So you can have a wikimedia like setup [12:18:51] Cool. Thanks. Okay, that's it for now. I just kind of needed to get a view of my options before just continuing the tradition of outright attrocious wiki hacks I've acustomed to. [13:43:14] Can somebody import our wikis? thanks [13:43:57] eventually if you've put a request in [13:44:08] welp [13:44:18] some people in our community are impatient [13:44:35] nothing that we can do about it [13:44:42] only 3 people have the power to do it [13:44:47] oh [13:44:53] thanks [14:37:09] what are templates? [14:37:47] To put it simply, it's a special page that can be included with content pages. [14:38:05] The pages are not special in the slightest [14:38:12] And in fact any page can be a template [14:38:34] The namespace only exists for ease of navigation and avoiding them being indexed / show in search etc [14:39:01] think of it as macros [14:39:12] oh [14:39:32] [[mw:Help:Templates]] [14:39:32] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates [14:39:33] [14:44:59] ohhhhi get it now [14:45:17] you basically make a piece of code for something that is more complex [14:45:28] and you can refrence that to only change a couple variables [14:45:37] in a simpler way like a template [14:45:40] thank you [14:57:41] yep [17:03:32] how do some wikis tells that they are Dormancy Exemption? like All The Tropes Wiki https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Main_Page [17:05:15] You can see on Special:ManageWiki [17:11:50] I can't tick the Exempt from inactivity box on my wiki's Special:ManageWiki [17:12:27] No you can not [17:12:37] You have to request it from a steward [17:13:47] you'll have to wait for steward now, you left a request on SN after all [17:49:18] is there a way to exclude specifics links from the "a" link colors? [17:49:50] new class [17:51:07] [1/6] example in CSS [17:51:07] [2/6] `.blue a { color: blue; }` [17:51:07] [3/6] in text [17:51:08] [4/6] `.../span` [17:51:08] [5/6] CSS might or might not require `!important` [17:51:08] [6/6] span can be used in a template [17:51:52] [1/3] `{{{1}}}/span` [17:51:52] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b1 [17:51:52] [2/3] so it's gonna be [17:51:52] [3/3] `{{blue|text here}}` [17:51:52] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:blue [17:56:40] yeah, makes sense. would it also work to just have a color: inherit class? [17:57:06] I think it won't change anything [17:57:21] you can try w/ element inspector [17:58:09] it worked in inspect, it took the color of what the page set, just not sure if it would work it practise, could try I guess xD [17:59:10] sometimes even inspector poking doesn't work in actual css lol [19:09:49] anyone had access error to `Special:ChangeContentModel` while beinf a sysop? [19:11:24] Why do some templates work right off the bat when i special export/import from other wiki's and some don't [19:11:32] Some require TemplateData [19:11:41] But I already have it in there and the extension installed [19:11:44] TemplateData is separate extension [19:11:52] I have it installed in my wiki [19:12:28] sometimes purge action or an empty edit needs to be done to kick off [19:13:17] Yeah still says I need missing TemplateData [19:13:30] https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Template:Pagebanner [19:13:34] this is what I wanted to import [19:13:51] Imported fine, just doesn't load any parameters when I try to insert it into an article [19:21:32] nvm i fixed it [19:21:36] i needed Template:Pagebanner/styles.css [19:27:25] inherit didn't work haha. I'll try this, ty btw! [19:27:35] np [19:34:33] that worked <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [19:49:13] How can I change the font within a template [19:49:18] Specifically the one i linked [19:52:20] via this page, I suppose [19:52:47] doesnt look like theres an option [20:02:29] I have no idea how to do it [20:02:47] I just want the text in that pagebanner to match the text in the wiki [20:04:46] hm yeah, not what I expected [20:05:02] I'm off laptop now so can't check [20:09:49] can you link a page that uses the banner? [20:10:03] . [20:10:24] https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Lyon [20:10:43] My wiki isn't availible without an account [20:15:58] [1/7] not sure if it will work, but try adding this to Pagebanner/styles.css [20:15:59] [2/7] .ext-wpb-pagebanner { [20:15:59] [3/7] font-family: (your font); [20:15:59] [4/7] } [20:16:00] [5/7] .wpb-name { [20:16:00] [6/7] font-family: (your font); [20:16:00] [7/7] } [20:21:36] [1/2] Invalid or unsupported value for property font-family at line 17 character 14. [20:21:37] [2/2] Invalid or unsupported value for property font-family at line 20 character 14. [20:21:45] I assume to replace your font with the one I want [20:21:51] But even that had the same error [20:22:03] Ideally, I'd like to have a uniform font for infoboxes and banners [20:24:05] try setting it to font-family: math, just to see if it works <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [20:24:44] im an idiot, it was the paranthesis [20:24:48] so it worked with Garamond Pro [20:24:55] Let me try and check to see if it updated [20:25:48] oh, that's my bad too then for not making it more clear [20:25:55] Hm it doesnt change the font to that specific one [20:26:05] what's the name of the font in miraheze [20:26:26] how are you setting the font for the other parts of your wiki? [20:26:32] trying to essentially make the banner font the same as the default one [20:26:39] i haven't edited the default dont [20:26:45] i have no idea how to do it [20:27:26] default wiki font should be sans-serif [20:29:04] yeah it doesn't update the dont [20:31:30] does setting it to a different font not work either? [20:32:34] I tried Garamond Pro and Sans-Serif and the template saves fine, but the pagebanner doesnt update, even after deleting and making a new one [20:41:46] hmm maybe it needs a different selector, you might have to go into inspect mode in your browser <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [20:42:33] How do I go about changing the selector with the inspect mode [20:46:47] [1/2] not changing exactly, just getting more info. like the ".wpb-name" part you currently have in css is based on this [20:46:47] [2/2] oh, maybe that needs to be .ext-wpb-pagebanner h1.wpb-name, but it could also be a bit different on your specific page [20:47:52] here's what came up [21:14:04] in this part, if you click near "style attribute", it should make a new line [21:14:50] Ok i made a new line [21:16:45] you can make the "font-family" and set the font, you should also just be able copy-paste font-family: sans-serif; into that area [21:20:33] how do i save it [21:20:43] and does this work for any font i want to change [21:25:09] with "inspect" you're just looking which part of the page code stuff will affect the page the way you want, then from that you get the selector aka address to use in your css [21:25:38] did the font change from putting in that one? with the ext-wpb-pagebanner stuff? [21:26:39] Yes [21:26:49] Until i refreshed the page [21:27:02] By adding a line to style attribute to sans serif font family [21:29:06] this is normal, inspect is for previewing only [21:30:27] So how can I permanently change it [21:32:01] back in the style.css page [21:33:36] this code didnt change the font when i tried that though [21:33:37] [1/6] .ext-wpb-pagebanner { [21:33:37] [2/6] font-family: (your font); [21:33:37] [3/6] } [21:33:38] [4/6] .wpb-name { [21:33:38] [5/6] font-family: (your font); [21:33:38] [6/6] } [21:33:45] [1/4] try this [21:33:46] [2/4] .ext-wpb-pagebanner .wpb-topbanner .wpb-name { [21:33:46] [3/4] font-family: sans-serif !important; [21:33:46] [4/4] } [21:34:57] nope 😦 [21:42:39] maybe it's this part..? looks like you have something setting the fonts to serif [21:43:16] do you have something in your general css that sets fonts maybe? [21:47:23] [1/5] / Reset italic styling set by user agent / [21:47:23] [2/5] cite, [21:47:23] [3/5] dfn { [21:47:24] [4/5] font-style: inherit; [21:47:24] [5/5] } [21:47:28] Inherit seems to be the font its using [21:47:42] all other instances are just for size and boldness [21:48:29] i changed it to sans-serif and nothing happened [21:50:52] inherit means it takes the style of its parent. [21:51:00] is the parent already using sans-serif? [21:51:41] which line should say the font [21:51:47] there's over 1000 of them [21:55:31] [1/5] the font-style is just for stuff like bold or italics so you shouldn't change that one. [21:55:32] [2/5] try adding this to general css maybe? it should force the content of any page to be san-serif so if nothing else, I think that might work <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [21:55:32] [3/5] .mw-body { [21:55:32] [4/5] font-family: sans-serif !important; [21:55:33] [5/5] } [21:56:01] just paste it anywhere? [21:56:04] the font might be affected by the skin you're using [21:56:27] yeah at the bottom or something [21:57:15] Yeah nothing changed [21:57:17] you can put a / Note/ above it like this one has, that's just to keep track of stuff on the css page [21:58:15] for general css it takes a while to update [21:58:34] so you wouldn't see it right away, refreshing browser cache helps tho [22:01:06] if it is a skin issue, is the method of changing the font simple as going into the specific skin css to do it [22:01:57] oh ya, the skin specific css might have be it [22:04:09] Im using the timeless skin [22:04:14] and the custom css has no page made for it [22:15:59] oh, yeah timelss is loading is in body <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [22:16:28] try changing the .mw-body to just body in this one [22:18:30] so cmd+f .mw-body and replace with just body for all that pop up? [22:18:37] Or just that specific section [22:19:50] just that specific section/code [22:21:47] Still nothing [22:21:59] I removed the .mw-body from that added bit of code you sent [22:22:05] Because that's the only one with font family [22:22:18] there's no Timeless in the general css [22:28:00] the page would be MediaWiki:Timeless.css, maybe you'll have to make one if that doesn't exist yet <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [22:28:59] ok yeah there's nothing there [22:29:07] so i can just plug that code you sent in [22:29:14] can you send it as a text so I can do that please [22:31:02] [1/3] body { [22:31:02] [2/3] font-family: sans-serif !important; [22:31:02] [3/3] } [22:32:05] [1/7] could also try [22:32:05] [2/7] .mw-body h1 [22:32:05] [3/7] font-family: sans-serif !important; [22:32:06] [4/7] } [22:32:06] [5/7] h1.firstHeading [22:32:06] [6/7] font-family: sans-serif !important; [22:32:06] [7/7] } [22:33:53] yeah nothing [22:34:05] youd think this would be an easy fix [22:34:09] just changing a font [22:36:52] general/skin css changes are usually not visible that quickly in either case [22:37:32] and yeah I know right 😭 [22:37:55] Im trying it in a different browser for the test so the cache is fast [22:45:42] would purging the css article help at all or it's served directly to the browser? [22:46:24] im not sure [22:46:29] how can i tell [22:49:30] developer tools [22:52:06] Im in safari, on the Develop tab on the taskbar, what do you need me to select [22:53:08] uhh i'm not sure, but somewhere in assets, i don't have the ui handy [22:53:46] you can purge the page in miraheze anyways [22:54:10] lol you see my name now i guess haha [22:54:36] don't worry about it just the developer tools would do for checking [22:54:46] but there's a purge action in mediawiki [22:54:50] btw if it doesn't get solved here you can make a thread in #support later so it doesn't get buried [22:55:06] i'm not sure if it works for those files [22:55:09] Purging just clears all the cache right [22:55:16] server cache [22:55:44] Ok, so is it best then to empty all the cache in Safari Develop or just the pages I need to force update on Mediawiki [22:56:11] you want to refresh with command+shift+r to force it to load from the source [22:59:17] that just loads Responsive Design Mode [22:59:23] oops [22:59:31] my bad [23:00:08] then try emptying caches or having the inspector open and ignore caches there on the network tab [23:04:05] Still nothing [23:05:53] then something is wrong, check in inspector if the values are correct ? [23:06:37] where in inspector do i need to look [23:06:55] like it changed when i added a new style attribute, it just doesnt save [23:08:20] oh don't edit it there, take note and apply it on the respective mediawiki css [23:11:38] i think we tried that [23:11:42] check the code the other person sent [23:15:27] sorry for not being of much help [23:16:11] Nah its ok [23:41:33] Read this https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Miraheze Miraheze regularly deletes "inactive" wikis (wikis with over 6 months of no activity) according to its Dormancy Policy unless wikis are granted an exemption. I don't want my wiki to be deleted in Feb 2024 two months before my birthday! which is April