''{{{caption1|}}}''/div}} [08:24:45] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23if:Template:%7b%7b%7bimage1 [08:24:45] [3/4] |tab2={{{tab2}}}|content2={{{image2|}}}{{#if:{{{caption2|}}}|

''{{{caption2|}}}''/div}} [08:24:45] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7btab2 [08:24:46] [4/4] }}|{{{image|No image}}}}}` [08:24:46] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bimage [08:24:55] okay [08:25:02] instead of the | image ={{{image|No image}}} that's there now [08:25:02] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bimage [08:26:19] that should hopefully make them show up, since that's the code for it that you were missing [08:27:20] its still not showing up but idk what to write [08:27:41] still not showing up but idk what to write [08:28:07] that part is fine, the code you need to put is in Template:Infobox_Character [08:28:21] i just did [08:28:54] I can change the colour of these via mobile.css right? [08:30:52] ah, you put it in Template:Infobox_Character/doc, that is a subpage that is for documentation/explaining the template, it doesn't actually affect the template [08:31:14] needs to be in Template:Infobox Character itself [08:31:59] also remove the "`" at the start and end, that's just discord formatting 😆 [08:32:41] okay [08:33:45] timeless.css would be better to tailor it to specific skin elements. you'll want a computer to optimally work on this because you have the dev tools which let you see how the css is applied and more [08:34:36] [1/2] Thanks! [08:34:36] [2/2] Is there some sort of article which has the list of things I am able to edit for the timeless skin? [08:34:45] good question [08:34:59] maybe [[mw:Skin:Timeless]] ? [08:34:59] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Timeless [08:34:59]

[08:36:17] help [08:36:19] looks like it has not much useful information [08:36:26] the good news is that the buttons are showing up <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> the bad news is you're going to need more of their templates [08:36:45] [1/2] http://lenen.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Template:Tabber/Tab [08:36:45] [2/2] http://lenen.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Template:Tabber/Content [08:36:49] copy those [08:36:51] they dont have any more tabber templates [08:36:59] wai [08:37:03] wait [08:37:06] okay ty [08:40:14] okay its working but its showing the same image [08:40:23] rather than both [08:45:02] that's weird <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [08:45:14] hmm [08:51:29] did we run out of options ? [08:52:50] not sure, trying to think what it could be <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [08:54:24] hm okay take your time [09:06:52] hmm tabber templates look the same, even the tabs work if setting a default one manually, it's really just the buttons themselves not working <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [09:07:29] yeahh [09:07:37] i wonder why? [09:09:12] maybe the tabber miraheze has works differently? [09:09:20] oh maybe [09:09:36] should we get someone else in this [09:10:15] yeah maybe someone else knows that part [09:10:29] do you know who? [09:13:20] no one that is online rn haha [09:13:26] oh oof [09:14:27] [1/2] well ill just wait ig [09:14:28] [2/2] thank you for your help [09:46:44] Timeless.css won't work in mobile mode, as I said before MFE only looks at Mobile.css and nothing else [09:47:38] since MFE allows only one skin for mobile mode, all the skin specific stuff goes into Mobile.css [09:47:53] @glisteningsunlight ^ [09:48:13] you can use my wiki's Timeless.css as reference [09:48:47] @ghaztliousmoths^ sorry its just mobile.css [09:50:01] but, as I also mentioned yesterday, Cosmos has a bonus of styling settings, w/o the need of putting everything into Mobile.css (which is also not stable by itself) [09:51:14] also things like templates, or main page exclusive stuff, are better to be styled w/ TemplateStyles instead of Common/Mobile.css [09:51:18] mfe could be disabled.... [09:51:52] I personally don't like MFE and use mobile responsive skins overall [09:52:30] but if you choose Vector, Monobook, etc as the main desktop skin, then you have to use MFE for the sake of mobility and better SEO [10:01:06] [1/2] hey legroom you there? i got the tabs working but the second image wont show fsr [10:01:06] [2/2] sorry if i butted in [10:12:13] I'm still not able to use laptop so I can't help, sorry [10:13:36] oh its fine [10:14:02] ill wait for someone else😅 [10:15:39] you can make a thread in support channel too btw, that way it will still be up even if it gets buried in here [11:07:55] oky 🙏 [11:25:00] also link your wiki page there too, and the other wiki as reference for what you want it to do [11:25:38] got it [14:53:54] <_______________________________d> Some wikis on Miraheze are great and some are utter shit [14:54:25] <_______________________________d> Like damn I love Miraheze but seriously some wikis make me question my faith in humanity [14:54:56] I get that feeling [14:55:07] wait wdym [14:55:22] Some wikis are a bit off [14:55:36] oh dear [14:55:43] <_______________________________d> This is an actual screenshot [14:56:04] WHA [14:56:07] 💀 [14:56:20] <_______________________________d> They couldn’t spell taenia correctly 💀 [14:56:32] omgggg [14:56:34] <_______________________________d> Or cestode [14:56:53] <_______________________________d> Not to mention that not all cestodes are tapeworms and not all tapeworms are taenia [14:57:10] <_______________________________d> Although all that infect humans are [14:57:17] <_______________________________d> I’m overthinking this aren’t I [14:58:03] Ye I don't think we need examples [14:58:09] <_______________________________d> Yeah [14:58:35] <_______________________________d> Tl;dr a lot of wikis on the heze are garbage [14:59:18] <_______________________________d> There are a lot of wikis that are innocent but extremely low quality [14:59:29] <_______________________________d> And there are also wikis that are just… weird [14:59:38] <_______________________________d> Borderline rule violations [15:02:50] may I ask what wiki is that? (ok to dm) [15:03:12] maybe it does require some investigation [15:06:06] the most infamous cases were shut down, however, including reception wikis which damaged Miraheze's reputation most [15:06:40] to find this kind of stuff one probably should wander discoverwiki or google a lot [15:07:32] <_______________________________d> Also real life villains [15:10:05] <_______________________________d> My username isn’t updating [15:10:06] <_______________________________d> Weird [15:11:14] <_______________________________d> It updated [15:11:52] <_______________________________d> Speaking of reception wikis I don’t see what made them so controversial [15:12:00] constant drama [15:12:09] and shit takes [15:12:24] <_______________________________d> I remember they said that morbius was a bad movie [15:12:28] people from outside started associating Miraheze in general w/ these wikis [15:12:40] <_______________________________d> Not great [15:13:06] also shit like user related wikis [15:13:11] spreading rumours etc [15:13:18] <_______________________________d> Yeahhhhhhhhhhhhh [15:13:36] <_______________________________d> Imagine a wiki that was just people reviewing other users [15:14:56] <_______________________________d> Of course I am the most diabolical villain on miraheze so I wouldn’t mind being in the terrible Miraheze users wiki but I’m sure other people would [15:16:10] The last reception wiki that ranted on users was shut down nearly three years ago [15:16:25] <_______________________________d, replying to tali64> I wasn’t around [15:17:00] I was, but I didn't really know that it shut down until I looked through old ManageWiki logs a couple of years later [15:17:03] <_______________________________d> On the backrooms on wikia there is a page dedicated to ranting on other users [15:17:12] <_______________________________d, replying to tali64> deserved tbh [15:17:15] Ayy, that's my wiki [15:17:19] <_______________________________d> Not sure if it’s around anymore [15:17:23] <_______________________________d, replying to ghaztliousmoths> Same [15:18:58] If only if I didn't get overwhelmed with how complex the way to change colours of a skin [15:19:20] <_______________________________d> I like the white color [15:19:44] <_______________________________d> Dark mode leaves weird lines around letters [15:20:10] [1/2] I want my wiki to match its fandom counterpart [15:20:11] [2/2] Just without the fandom look [15:20:34] <_______________________________d> For mine not really [15:20:55] <_______________________________d> Maybe I’ll make it yellow to match the theme [15:22:03] I basically trying to revise this wiki because I don't like how they're doing it on the other version [15:23:12] <_______________________________d> For me all other wikis were either invite only or extremely, like trollishly low quality [15:23:45] As someone whose worked on Pikipedia, I've gotten the mindset of "if a group of things have little to say about them individually, just put them all on 1 page" [15:24:46] <_______________________________d> I make pages too long [16:28:11] Same, I've always gone for one big 50kb page, unless it makes sense to split or split again. [16:30:45] Did a format upgrade :D [16:32:33] you still request desktop view while in mobile mode? [16:34:03] [1/2] Yea [16:34:03] [2/2] As for why? Idk [17:56:29] [1/2] Assuming you are talking about the icons, you can try and do things like filter effects and such in css, though at the end of the day they are pictures (applied as background in the css). So depending on exactly the colors you actually want, you may have to download them, and modify them, and then upload your new modified versions to your wiki and then ap [17:56:29] [2/2] ply those instead of the default ones [18:05:25] Not the icons, the red and blue lines [18:09:21] <_______________________________d> Miraheze is not in a great position [18:09:41] <_______________________________d> Prior to the shutdown scare it was pretty much the only good wiki farm [18:09:52] <_______________________________d> Maybe shoutwiki but that has ads [18:10:00] <_______________________________d> Now other options have opened up [18:10:23] <_______________________________d> Some of the largest wikis are controversial [18:11:06] <_______________________________d> And in the end wikia is still a hegemon [18:11:26] <_______________________________d> Despite all their bad decisions [18:19:49] they want to check how it looks on desktop or something or prefer the desktop skin [18:20:02] use a computer, request desktop site is not a replacement [18:22:26] also, mobile editing sucks in general [18:23:26] I mean, w/ Timeless or Cosmos it's alright lol [18:23:53] just can't do more complex stuff like CSS or hardcore table coding [18:24:12] cosmos is the fandom look and they said not wanting to have the fandom look lol [18:24:26] yeah, so there's Cosmos [18:24:36] cosmos is a fandom skin clone [18:25:14] clone of Oasis except it's better than Oasis, and definitely better than what FANDOM has now lol [18:26:12] we had there some guy who pestered SRE to accept as fast as possible clone of that skin [18:26:41] and then he disappeared [18:27:15] idk if he finally was content w/ it, or just stopped hanging on Miraheze all together [18:28:04] I don't think anyone use that skin here, considering it was the last straw for many people (me included) to start leaving FANDOM [18:29:28] back in 2021 [18:35:11] Shoutwiki can be a bit choppy with the 504s [18:38:43] [1/2] That why you should almost always point out what in a picture you talk about. [18:38:43] [2/2] The blue line I think we be related to the h1 (header 1) element, not sure on the red one though, maybe a border of the content box, I could be widely off on that one though [19:08:50] A replacement for what? [19:13:32] [1/2] The only computer I have, I am technically not supposed to do anything unrelated to school. [19:13:32] [2/2] I know mobile editing sucks, but for general editing and image uploading, it's the most comfortable way for me to work until I can replace my old broken mac [19:16:40] sometimes you can only use what you can [19:20:39] Yea. I do use the school laptop for big/large batch edits, and skin editing soon [19:23:17] Overall, the only major inconvenience on mobile is that I can't edit in split screen because the editor starts to misalign from the cursor [19:48:44] does mediawiki.org load for anyone? [19:49:50] It does for me [19:52:32] istg if they're trying to block wikimedia in russia ... [19:52:54] it loaded w/ proxy immediately [20:09:27] @theoneandonlylegroom can you DM some tests? [20:09:32] Are you laptop or mobile? [20:11:42] laptop [20:12:44] @theoneandonlylegroom dm the output to tracert en.wikipedia.org please [20:13:08] and ping -c 4 en.wikipedia.org [20:13:13] or whichever wikimedia site [20:15:09] you said mediawiki.org [20:15:21] so mediawiki.org instead of en.wikipedia.org [20:15:30] wikipedia too [20:15:52] @theoneandonlylegroom try a traceroute and ping [20:15:55] please [20:16:04] wait a sec