[01:23:56] <5.35, replying to tatiannaz> i would assume the same way? [01:24:24] <5.35> ```[[File:Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping, BRICS summit 2015 04.jpg|thumb|thumb|[htt ps://www.google.com text]text]]``` [01:24:24] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Vladimir_Putin_and_Xi_Jinping%2c_BRICS_summit_2015_04.jpg [01:25:52] Dumb question: is there a way to create automatic redirects without having to move the page? [01:30:43] yes, make a new page and have the only thing on it be #REDIRECT [[page to redirect to goes here]] [01:30:43] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/page_to_redirect_to_goes_here [01:30:43]

[01:31:51] <5.35, replying to ziggyb> [1/5] I am guessing that you are asking how to create redirects? [01:31:51] <5.35, replying to ziggyb> [2/5] Just type [01:31:52] <5.35, replying to ziggyb> [3/5] ```#REDIRECT [[page redirected to]]``` [01:31:52] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/page_redirected_to [01:31:52] <5.35, replying to ziggyb> [4/5] A few tools can do that more conveniently / automatically for you. I use Wikiplus [01:31:52] <5.35, replying to ziggyb> [5/5] meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:XComhghall/global.js [01:34:08] <5.35> Once I hit submit, the js script creates the redirect page and `#REDIRECT [[page to redirect to goes here]]` for me [01:34:08] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/page_to_redirect_to_goes_here [02:09:33] I just checked Google seo and for some reason it reviews to index my wiki asking for another index. then saying please wait until later and then nothing's gets indexed. Now it doesn't allow me to do anything and it's been stuck on this for quite a while. [02:13:12] oh there is no Sitemap.xml for it the wiki did get bigger [02:13:55] ok now there lol [02:25:26] [1/2] the irony is a week ago when I directly typed in my wiki into Google I could still find it. But now I can't. But I know it wasn't indexed so a single word wouldn't do it. But now I can literally do the entire URL and still can't even find that wiki on google. [02:25:26] [2/2] While 1 weeks ago that was no problem. [02:31:48] the irony is all other search engines are reporting my wiki in perfect detail [02:52:42] I need to contact a steward for an urgent matter involving the code of conduct [02:52:57] Is there a proper channel to do so? [02:53:01] For some reason, the infobox we developed to show character details keeps including a placeholder line whenever it is used. I can't figure out why this is the case - is there an issue with the source we've set up? [02:59:19] <5.35, replying to elizatronicwarfare> you mean the 'based on …'? [02:59:25] <5.35> a noinclude tag will do [03:01:08] <5.35, replying to elizatronicwarfare> [1/2] seems that your wiki is private? I cannot seem to find it [03:01:08] <5.35, replying to elizatronicwarfare> [2/2] but yeah, I can take a look if you would like [03:01:40] https://www.destinycycle.miraheze.com [03:02:06] yeah, it's some sort of placeholder line that was part of the original template [03:03:01] https://forgeofdestiny.miraheze.org [03:06:30] <5.35, replying to elizatronicwarfare> OK. Should be fixed now. [03:06:54] <5.35> How can I get the Verified wiki user role [03:07:01] <5.35> I can't seem to send links without the role [03:07:23] `/auth` [03:08:41] <5.35> awesome thanks [03:24:21] works perfectly, thankyou for your help [04:06:22] [1/2] sadly all communications w/ stewards take some time nowadays [04:06:23] [2/2] the traditional venues for reports are [[SN]] and `stewards@miraheze.org` [04:06:23] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SN [04:06:23]

[04:20:06] [1/4] i need help from the stewards but they are ignoring [04:20:06] [2/4] so need a new steward [04:20:07] [3/4] nominated tali and kiju as stewards. need everyone's vote!!!! [04:20:07] [4/4] [[Requests for Stewardship]] [04:20:07] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Stewardship [04:20:07]

[04:21:26] [1/2] not ignoring, just being slow [04:21:26] [2/2] please don't panic [04:21:54] also promoting new steward is not easy [04:48:33] This isnt how you do things here, and accusing people of doing things they arent is not respectful and uncivil [05:25:50] miraheze is currently understaffed, stop spreading baseless bullshit please [05:27:20] <5.35> yeah [05:27:31] <5.35> <:00forever273:903230986488266812> [05:35:15] hi again [05:35:39] i have disabled the article rating extensions but why it's still appeared in the sidebar? [05:52:54] <5.35> Do you have a link? [05:53:40] <5.35> I'm not sure what it is [05:53:46] <5.35, replying to Guest272> <:A_CocoaThink:748883914642161755> [05:54:04] my wiki link? [05:57:39] <5.35> a link to any article with the 'article rating extensions in the sidebar' [05:58:33] How to integrate a Wikipedia infobox on Miraheze [05:58:58] the articles are being imported so i only have my main page here https://chidurianwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [05:59:17] [1/2] [[User:Legroom/Infoboxes]] [05:59:17] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Legroom/Infoboxes [05:59:17] [2/2] although I don't advice outright copying/importing from Wikipedia [05:59:18]

[06:00:33] <5.35, replying to Guest272> oh yeah i see the rate article on the left [06:00:39] <5.35> lemme see what skin it is [06:00:51] Vector 2022 [06:01:04] i have enabled it and then disabled afterwards [06:01:23] are you sure you saved changes on disabling? [06:02:18] <5.35> it may be just delay in updating the setting [06:02:44] <5.35> i had experienced that earlier in the afternoon [06:02:48] i have saved it too [06:02:52] yeah [06:03:08] how long is the delay cuz i have waited for 2 days [06:03:13] <5.35> [1/2] just now i enabled it, and saved it [06:03:13] <5.35> [2/2] yet in vector 2022, i do not see the 5 stars for rating [06:03:29] <5.35, replying to Guest272> [1/2] hmmmm <:thinking_02:751458834609864814> [06:03:30] <5.35, replying to Guest272> [2/2] that does seem quite long [06:04:05] <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [06:05:32] so like the delay is longer than expected or there's an error [06:05:59] delay is usually 5-10 minutes [06:06:10] something doesn't add up [06:08:43] i have the image here https://i.imgur.com/BqNNKq4.png [06:09:19] yeah, I just saw it's indeed disabled [06:11:13] and its special pages are not available [06:11:41] what do you mean [06:12:19] you haven't used `` tags? [06:12:53] no. i just enabled the extensions, i havent edited anything [06:13:43] [1/2] some extension add unique special pages to the wiki, the ones w/ `Special` prefix [06:13:43] [2/2] so I tried to check `Special:ChangeRating` and it's not here, since extension is disabled technically [06:14:02] wait a second [06:16:20] <5.35> It has been 13 minutes since i enabled rating [06:16:54] <5.35> and i do not see 'Rate article' on the left sidebar [06:17:06] I think it's different extension [06:17:13] look at screenshots on MW [06:17:34] I can't check on my wiki rn [06:18:33] hmm during the reload of the page i can see the extension disappeared but then it's presented again [06:18:33] <5.35> Oh yeah [06:18:36] <5.35> It is this one: [06:18:36] <5.35> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RatePage [06:19:13] <5.35> Yup [06:19:16] <5.35> also under others [06:19:56] so do I have to delete it? [06:20:23] <5.35> unclicking it would be fine [06:21:00] <5.35> [1/2] probably [06:21:00] <5.35> [2/2] then the rating widget will be gone [06:21:32] oh it worked [06:22:38] thanks [06:22:38] <5.35> awesome~ [06:22:46] <5.35> [06:38:18] hi [06:40:15] hello there [06:49:35] <5.35> hola [06:49:39] <5.35> [07:00:04] [1/3] iknow Void is busy [07:00:04] [2/3] then we should add new stewards [07:00:05] [3/3] vote now!! [07:04:53] Stewards should not be added on a whim [07:05:14] They have the power to do a lot and can access a huge amount of data [07:08:03] they are trusted as wikicreator and globalsysop [07:08:12] why not? [07:09:05] my friend requested a username change 3 months ago but it has not been confirmed yet [07:10:24] Wiki creator's power is virtually none [07:10:30] You can't cause lasting damage [07:10:52] power can be easily abused, there were precedents already and no amount of community trust can mitigate that [07:10:54] Globalsysop can do a lot more but it's still extremely tightly controlled and involves no PI or PII [07:11:44] Stewards have virtually unlimited access to anything that can be done via the mediawiki interface including personally identifiable information and private information on users and wikis [07:12:49] then why not oppose? [07:16:02] more processes follow voting [07:16:15] it's simply not easy/quick [07:16:49] plus Miraheze as organization is going tru some legal and transferring stuff [07:16:59] *right now [07:24:23] [1/8] but nothing can be done without community consensus [07:24:23] [2/8] nominated them for it for those who will be using Miraheze [07:24:23] [3/8] don't care if it takes a long time [07:24:24] [4/8] We need stewards to keep everyone out of trouble [07:24:24] [5/8] tali did a good job as a wiki author, and kiju did a kind outreach effort [07:24:24] [6/8] think people worry too much [07:24:24] [7/8] Stewardship can be revoked at any time [07:24:25] [8/8] don't believe they will abuse their rights [07:32:05] [1/6] You guys worry too much [07:32:05] [2/6] That's why there is always a shortage of stewards [07:32:06] [3/6] No one is perfect [07:32:06] [4/6] If you do a bad job, just take it revoked [07:32:06] [5/6] everyone is in trouble [07:32:07] [6/6] Why don't you put your faith in them for once? [07:33:14] [1/2] you are the one who started this convo w/ "being ignored" and asking people to act fast [07:33:14] [2/2] now you say don't care about long times [07:34:17] [1/2] I hang on Miraheze since 2021 and seen some stuff, Rhinos is even more older volunteer and former sys admin, he knows the stuff [07:34:17] [2/2] we aren't "worrying too much" [07:38:50] I changed my mind [07:39:04] I'm not worrying too much [07:39:26] The past predicts the future. We have had multiple users who've abused positions. Some have gone to extreme lengths. [07:40:53] I have never seen a situation where two people abused their positions [07:43:12] tali was very attentive in responding to my consultation [07:43:29] kiju was kind enough to reply to my DM when I mistakenly thought he was a steward [09:16:21] lucky you, everyone else has. calm down, have some patience, and wait your turn for your request to be processed. you are not going to get anything done any other way. [09:17:39] nothing on Miraheze is life or death, you can afford to wait for a bit. [09:32:44] no point to continue this topic now [09:50:46] I nominate you as stewards [09:53:03] @turbon_ please stop [10:19:14] [1/3] good news! [10:19:14] [2/3] you have been nominated as stewards [10:19:15] [3/3] good luck [10:49:04] LMAO [10:49:21] Bruh [11:02:54] I have closed his nomination of me [11:14:29] Get being frustrated with slow response times, because the current stewards are understandably busy, but that's just plain ridiculous lol [11:15:03] Randomly nominating people isn't going to help [11:15:34] Not at all no [11:18:21] for a table that has 4 rows, is it possible to turn this [11:18:25] into this? [11:18:40] (theres 3 columns in the 4th row) [11:24:52] Not sure if this is what you meant, but you can select multiple cells in a table, then merge them into one. [11:26:25] [1/2] please Accept the nomination [11:26:26] [2/2] we need experienced people like you to be our steward [11:27:03] how can I do that [11:27:45] oh do you mean colspan? [11:28:50] No, you need something called time [11:29:16] Also I'm a tech person, not suited to stewards [11:30:49] Yeah, to fit 3 columns in one, the wider columns need to have a colspan of 3. [11:31:38] Mediawiki has some examples in help tables [11:31:39] oh thats the first way I did it, I assumed it was an erroneous way to do it 😵‍💫 [11:31:53] so what other users can be good stewards? [11:32:04] No other way to do that I believe <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [11:32:12] Probably no one or they'd have long been nominated [11:32:44] Though I recall there being a website that can generate wikitext tables from a visual editor. So maybe that can help you [11:33:12] do you remember the name [11:34:27] [1/2] That's the one I saw earlier, but there's a few others if you google for mediawiki table generator [11:34:27] [2/2] [11:34:58] thanks [11:42:31] can someone close my nomination too please, a tad confused w/ source code on mobile rn lol [11:42:52] there's no way I can be steward [11:43:38] although I'd delete all of this tomfoolery from the page [11:50:42] oof it removes bgcolor="color" [12:20:29] For those of you guys who do SEO and use Google Search Console, do entries in the ownership log expire/can they be removed? [12:20:46] Maaaay have done a small goofy and linked the SEO to my school google account [12:32:20] the one who registered forst sure can remove others [13:08:01] @paladox [83e1015627d14f4d2863988c] 2023-09-22 13:07:35: Fatal exception of type "JobQueueError" when trying to do wiki requests [13:09:25] looks like it logged the creation, but i dont think it actually did (Farmer log 08:08 Zppix talk contribs block created the wiki "tuflenafhaonsidawiki" ‎(Requested) ) [13:10:13] correction: It created it but didnt update the request status [13:22:35] Remove other users or log entries? because my concern is having other bureaucrats on the Search Console would allow them to see the personal email I originally registered with(not currently much of a concern seeing as the only other one rn is inactive on the wiki [13:23:00] hm <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [13:23:17] Sighs [13:23:30] I have an aversion to doxxing myself so [13:23:40] Yes we don't recommend doing that thanks [13:24:31] If not it’s not a huge deal cause I doubt we’ll have another bureaucrat, let alone one doing SEO [13:24:35] But still [13:24:49] Can’t be too safe [13:25:02] Especially since the email is a school one containing year and location info [13:25:12] (big oof) [13:25:22] you don't have to tell every detail here tho [13:25:44] /and channel is relayed/ [13:26:00] I'm not sure what to do here tho [13:26:02] O good point shit up I do now [13:26:31] /dont suppose deletion here removed from irc?/ [13:27:04] nope [13:27:08] nope, unless irc admin does [13:27:14] IRC messages cannot be deleted [13:27:21] oh, my bad [13:27:53] man, if I knew this server itself is public, I'd make an alt, but it's too late lol [13:27:57] Hmm, im mobile atm [15:46:00] anyone else getting this error? [15:46:32] Yes I just checked. [15:46:47] idk why my photo not loading but [15:47:32] I am also getting that and 503 backend fetch failed [15:47:36]