[00:08:17] how can i edit my web url [00:08:25] i don’t want to have miraheze in my link anymore [00:32:08] You mean provide your own custom domain? well first you need to register a domain if you dont have one, but idk if you can change the url later, I’ll check. [01:06:10] [1/18] I've been trying to figure out how to use this, and after setting up a bot account and a bunch of files for pywikibot to use, I've come to the following error: [01:06:11] [2/18] ```WARNING: Http response status 404 [01:06:11] [3/18] WARNING: Non-JSON response received from server abts:en for url [01:06:11] [4/18] https://adriftbetwixtthestars.miraheze.org/wiki/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo%7Cuserinfo&siprop=namespaces%7Cnamespacealiases%7Cgeneral&continue=&uiprop=blockinfo%7Chasmsg&maxlag=5&format=json [01:06:11] [5/18] The server may be down. [01:06:12] [6/18] Status code: 404 [01:06:12] [7/18] The text message is: [01:06:12] [8/18] No such action - Adrift Betwixt the Stars``` [01:06:13] [9/18] There exists a forum post which has a similar issue with pywikibot, and it indicated the issue was that /wiki was in that url, and proposed a fix, but this did not work. I instead removed the /wiki automatically added with the language in the family file, and just adding /wiki manually to any page URLs i try to mess with, and this successfully rem [01:06:13] [10/18] oves /wiki from the api link, but this results in a similar but different error: [01:06:13] [11/18] ```WARNING: Http response status 404 [01:06:14] [12/18] WARNING: Non-JSON response received from server abts:en for url [01:06:14] [13/18] https://adriftbetwixtthestars.miraheze.org/api.php?action=query&meta=siteinfo%7Cuserinfo&siprop=namespaces%7Cnamespacealiases%7Cgeneral&continue=&uiprop=blockinfo%7Chasmsg&maxlag=5&format=json [01:06:15] [14/18] The server may be down. [01:06:15] [15/18] Status code: 404 [01:06:16] [16/18] The text message is: [01:06:16] [17/18] File not found.``` [01:06:17] [18/18] Any ideas? [01:08:17] from my limited understanding of mediawiki and stuff, it seems like i'm missing an "api.php" [01:11:13] You should be hitting `https://adriftbetwixtthestars.miraheze.org/w/api.php` [01:11:29] oh huh, interesting, i'll see if i can make it do that [01:13:04] ok, i think that fixed it, because it successfully tried to edit the page (and failed, because i didn't set up some bot user stuff up properly i think, which i can fix on my own) [01:13:05] thank you!! [01:14:02] No problem! [01:28:47] ok so i've got a pretty interesting issue after that. i get the error `pywikibot.exceptions.UserRightsError: User "None" does not have required user right "edit"` when i try to run my test code, so I take a look in `user-config.py` and discover that the `usernames` dictionary has no previous references or sources, which leads me to believe i set it up improperly [01:31:34] not entirely sure where that is supposed to come from and i have no idea how to repair it, nor do i know if that's the actual issue [01:31:38] how can i see every page a template is used on? [01:35:05] try the "What links here" tool on the sidebar thing while on the page for a template [02:02:37] nevermind i might've found the issue [02:05:03] Yep, works great now. My issue was I never ran `pwb.exe login` [03:05:55] [[Custom domains]] [03:05:55] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Custom_domains [03:05:55]

[03:18:02] Hey void were you able to read over my evidence yet? [03:32:20] <5.35> [1/4] I was wondering about [03:32:20] <5.35> [2/4] [03:32:20] <5.35> [3/4] [03:32:21] <5.35> [4/4] which use


[03:32:55] 	 <5.35> [1/2] `{{attr|x|y}}` and `{{tag|span}}`
[03:32:55] 	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:attr 
[03:32:55] 	 <5.35> [2/2] are no longer colored as shown on the template pages
[03:33:11] 	 <5.35> [1/2] seems that `{{#tag:syntaxhighlight||lang=text|style=display:none!important}}`
[03:33:11] 	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23tag:Template:syntaxhighlight 
[03:33:11] 	 <5.35> [2/2] is now necessary
[03:51:56] 	  Hello, I am Prodraxis from Wikipedia. I will probably lurk here from time to time - I have an account on Miraheze but I mostly lurk there cause most of the time I edit the English Wikipedia.
[03:53:08] 	  O/
[03:55:34] 	  Zppix, I recognize you from the WP discord...
[03:56:00] 	  Yep been on enwiki since around 2014
[03:56:05] 	  lol
[03:56:15] 	  i've only been editing since March this year
[03:56:34] 	  Oh really? Could of swore ive seen you around forever
[03:56:51] 	  yeah.... well, i was an avid lurker since 2020ish
[03:57:09] 	  (as an IP ofc. that's why I know about policy and stuff. I didn't edit back then tho)
[03:57:18] 	  I think maybe I’m thinking of Prax something
[03:57:45] 	  Praxidicae?? well she's a global sysop and apparently according to WP:IMBRIAN a bunch of people confuse us lmao
[03:58:05] 	  Yes, and lol Its pretty similar
[03:58:49] 	  I have no relation to Praxidicae though, it's only a coincidence tbh. I used to be named Shadow of the Starlit Sky until I decided I needed a shorter username and chose Prodraxis as a reference to Prodigy Math Game, my first DYK
[03:59:22] 	  Ah nice
[03:59:41] 	  yeah... my old username was too long and I despised typing it out whenever I logged in
[04:01:35] 	  Yeah was 14 when I joined enwiki, then in 2017 I came here
[04:03:18] 	  lol
[04:03:42] 	  well...... I can say I am somewhere in high school but I will not reveal exact age due to privacy issues
[04:04:05] 	  Of course
[04:04:22] 	  I would edit enwiki during class all the time
[04:04:32] 	  lmao same
[04:04:35] 	  Infact most of my edits near the beginning were done during class 🤣
[04:05:03] 	  i wrote a good chunk of Korea Job World in class lol
[04:05:17] 	  I even did some sysadmin stuff for Miraheze while in class lol
[04:05:41] 	  i would never pass rfa in miraheze or wp meanwhile lmao
[04:06:08] 	  not that i want to be an admin or anything - i personally would only run if the community wants me to
[04:06:23] 	  This next few weeks will be busy for me here on Miraheze
[04:06:50] 	  yeah.... i've been seeing tons of updates and stuff on meta
[04:07:10] 	  Yeah my most recent edits on Meta are huge hints as to what
[04:11:01] 	  ikr..
[07:58:14] 	 <.labster> I just looked up best wiki hosting on What3Words and it says that it's in the middle of Nunavut:  https://what3words.com/best.wiki.hosting
[12:52:32] 	  Loo
[12:57:31] 	  I’ve been looking at MediaWiki hosting cause I Was considering making a self hosted on a home server
[12:57:47] 	  I have fallen down the habit hole of learning about panels
[12:58:03] 	  Help me please!
[13:08:33] 	  Also do y’all know if you can use a domain registered through Squarespace for a wiki? Like setting cookieworld.com to the site and wiki.cookieworld.com to a Miraheze wiki?
[13:17:25] 	  @orduin, please take a look at https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_permissions#Jph2_(Wiki_creator) and https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_permissions#Redmin_(Wiki_Creator) if you are able to; wiki requests are still piling up.
[14:32:44] 	  where can I find the option for having a wiki's logo ($wgLogo) appear over the sidebar?
[14:35:22] 	  also, is there a way to stop $wgLogo from being included in preview embeds?
[14:35:45] 	  it's unneccessary and annoying for our users
[14:36:24] 	  Manage this wiki's additional settings -> Styling
[14:36:43] 	  there's a space for a link to a logo and favicon
[14:37:48] 	  yes, and I've filled that out with the image you can see in my second embed
[14:38:00] 	  that's working and fine, we've got the favicon turning up where it should
[14:38:15] 	  but for some reason $wgLogo doesn't appear on the actual site
[14:38:32] 	  it's all still just text and coloured boxes
[14:41:32] 	  no logo :(
[14:41:53] 	  I assume it is some sort of toggle or option somewhere like "show logo in sidebar", but I haven't been able to find it
[14:43:09] 	  might be a function of the skin. i the generic skin, i had the favicon but no logo. when i switched to the legacy 2010 skin, the logo shows up for me.
[14:47:18] 	  yeah, def because it's 2022 vector
[14:47:30] 	  I still haven't figured out how it really works
[14:51:35] 	  ahh ok
[14:51:43] 	  I'll try out some other skins then, thankyou
[14:52:38] 	  you can change to legacy Vector in the same styling settings tho
[14:53:03] 	  a lot of people don't like new version lol
[15:03:52] 	  any idea why google says "there isn't a lot of HTTPS pages on your site thus it's not very convenient", while everyone know that Miraheze is HTTPS?
[15:04:20] 	  Is the entire Miraheze is full HTTPS?
[15:04:29] 	  I thought so?
[15:04:58] 	  Some parts of the website can be unecrypted and thus cannot pass Google HTTPS
[15:05:49] 	  No idea if they do check if a website is accessible without encryption
[15:06:40] 	  like typing http://meta.miraheze.org/ instead of https
[15:07:16] 	  @theoneandonlylegroom where are you seeing that
[15:07:24] 	  @max20091 we do not serve over http
[15:08:02] 	  miraheze.org (and all subdomains) are HSTS preloaded
[15:08:18] 	  No browser should even be attempting HTTP requests
[15:13:31] 	  [1/2] in Google Search Console
[15:13:31] 	  [2/2] maybe I misinterpreted it ...
[15:14:01] 	  @theoneandonlylegroom can you screenshot (in English) and DM
[15:19:24] 	  Is there a version of the ManageWiki Extension for non farm wikis?
[15:20:31] 	  [1/2] Yes, it's open-source but don't expect for supports tho
[15:20:31] 	  [2/2] https://github.com/miraheze/ManageWiki
[15:20:58] 	  isn't heavily tied w/ CreateWiki?
[15:21:02] 	  ManageWiki/CreateWiki really is hard to setup outside of the Miraheze environment
[15:21:10] 	  Was gonna say, that’s why I asked
[15:21:23] 	  ManageWiki/CreateWiki work very close together
[15:21:28] 	  They can be seperated, but no idea how well it would work
[15:21:32] 	  Pretty sure you need CreateWiki
[15:21:37] 	  Or maybe create needs manage
[15:21:46] 	  No pretty dashboard for me 😔, it’s not a big deal just wanted to try it cause gonna make a self hosted wiki on a home server
[15:22:09] 	  The [[mw:Extention:ManageWiki]] page mentions it needs create wiki
[15:22:09] 	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extention:ManageWiki
[15:22:10] 	  
[15:22:24] 	  ManageWiki requires CreateWiki
[15:22:45] 	  So the answer to is there a version for non-farms, no ish
[15:22:57] 	  You can have CreateWiki installed and just not assign the rights
[15:23:13] 	  Know if there’s another similar extension?
[15:23:16] 	  But both are hard to install
[15:23:54] 	  Eh, oh well, not like i don’t know how to use LocalSettings.PHP
[15:24:22] 	  There's https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfigManager for blue spice
[15:26:44] 	  Oh thank you
[15:27:14] 	  Related ish questions, anyone have any experience using a git version control to back up configurations?
[15:27:35] 	  Yes
[15:27:40] 	  Miraheze does that
[15:27:51] 	  (Also to make it the same across all servers)
[15:28:40] 	  Yeah I got the idea looking at IRC git relays
[15:29:11] 	  I tend to be trigger happy with configs so I was thinking about it to revert my tomfuckery
[15:31:01] 	  It's a pretty smart idea
[15:32:18] 	  Yeah, just wondering which files and such to include, rn Im thinking to do skins, LocalSettings.PHP, and the extensions directory
[15:32:43] 	  You can do the whole installation if you want
[15:32:49] 	  That's easy enough to do
[15:32:56] 	  It's generally up you
[15:33:14] 	  Full install will make updating super easy, git pull can just work
[15:35:53] 	  Yeah, but including stuff like the images directory would cause data to rollback when restoring
[15:37:39] 	 You can change the images directory
[15:39:13] 	  Hm?
[15:40:03] 	 Make images store somewhere else
[15:41:42] 	  True, although right now I’m just setting up a wiki instance for the fun of it, not to use it in a prod environment so not super important, I just wanna learn how
[15:41:55] 	  But thanks for all your help
[18:19:38] 	  i suggest putting cgi/fpm and memcached to improve loading times
[18:22:56] 	  there's a mediawiki discord and irc for your support questions @pixldev
[18:27:17] 	  that’s probably a better place yeah thank you
[18:28:36] 	  setup cache in your wiki and also setup php fpm/fastcgi
[18:31:07] 	  133 requests done, wiki request queue is now no longer backlogged
[18:32:56] 	  good job
[18:35:59] 	  👏
[18:43:27] 	  @pixldev your loading times might be slow without cache and fastcgi, at least it was in my experience
[18:45:25] 	  and might be reaching timeouts
[18:45:52] 	  ah, thanks, ill keep that in mind if I ever go to set up a producation server or the testing is being real slow
[18:46:38] 	  cache definitely should help performance and reduce timeouts
[18:47:09] 	  cgi is a dubious one
[18:48:17] 	  so i cant really setup managewiki and createwiki independently?
[19:17:19] 	  No
[19:18:26] 	  welp
[19:18:44] 	  i mean, i cant setup managewiki/createwiki outside of miraheze?
[19:19:10] 	  Its not easy
[19:20:01] 	  there's no instructions to do this because its unsupported correct?
[19:20:46] 	  does it require puppet and varnish set up?
[19:20:58] 	  and i take its not possible on windows
[19:23:00] 	  Its just extremely difficult to setup
[19:23:57] 	  It wasnt really designed to be used outside of Miraheze, although if someone has the technical knowledge to do so nothing is stopping them from trying
[19:25:43] 	  Its not designed for small scale wiki setups either
[19:35:51] 	  we recently had there some folks ready to pay to help them set up CreateWiki on their farm
[19:37:28] 	  (they got help for free lol)
[19:40:46] 	  oh cool
[19:40:59] 	  i'd like to set up createwiki/managewiki for self-learning/experimentation
[19:45:23] 	  the only other wiki farms using these extensions I know are Telepedia and WikiTide/Forge (but this one is not surprising)
[19:51:03] 	  WikiTide yeah is basically blue Miraheze from what i see
[19:51:14] 	  Telepedia is purple fandom
[20:50:35] 	  Yeah, you need the cw_wikis table
[20:51:40] 	  There are some commits hanging about on GitHub somewhere in attempts to spin off MW to not require CW but I don’t believe they got very far.
[21:16:51] 	  [1/2] RE: WT, things are a bit different on backend (extensive use of cloud-based architecture + cloudflare) along with slightly stricter wiki acceptance criteria.
[21:16:51] 	  [2/2] Given that it was formed by former MH volunteers (myself included) there's absolutely a lot of shared thinking and "Blue MH" is still an absolutely fair comparison for now.
[21:18:49] 	  I expect we'll continue to further diverge over time, but more stable hosts is better for everyone, hence why I'm still volunteering as a discord mod here.
[21:20:16] 	  Aight, thanks for the clarification Aracham, and good luck with WikiTide, keep up the good work mg 🫡
[21:20:30] 	  <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711>
[21:35:01] 	  Hello people's!
[21:54:38] 	  came here to ask a question. I noticed that on wikipedia when using the vector 2022 skin there's a way to disable limited width which gets rid of alot of the unused space for pages. Is there a way to do the same on a miraheze wiki? Since I don't see that setting
[22:19:58] 	  why so?
[22:31:33] 	  what's a good way to handle typos in the source material? <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> for example there's a dialogue option "Ghost Stroy" in a game, and there's wanting to stay accurate but it also won't make any sense to ppl running the wiki through auto translate/screen readers or stuff like that
[22:38:23] 	  Thats really up to you, I might use square brackes([]) to tell the reader this part of the text has been changed to make it more readable
[22:38:31] 	  Maybe outline in a policy page
[22:38:43] 	  <:nomChocoStrawberry:938647184973365318>
[22:51:50] 	  `[sic]`(often in superscript) is basically the indicator used to say, that this is a mistake kept from the original, if you do end up needing something like that
[22:56:27] 	  [1/2] agree [sic] is the accepted means of saying the mistake comes from the original.
[22:56:27] 	  [2/2] but i don't recall ever seeing [sic] as a superscript.
[23:46:17] 	  Hmm might be remembering it wrong on the superscript part, not sure, maybe confusing it with reference notations, as they use a similar kind of style
[23:53:29] 	  theres a Wikipedia page on it as well
[23:53:37] 	  {{wp:Sic}}
[23:53:37] 	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/wp:Template:Sic 
[23:53:39] 	  
[23:55:14] 	  not the page i eas looking for but okay
[23:55:35] 	  https://en.Wikipedia.org/wiki/Sic
[23:55:41] 	  what i meant to link
[23:55:55] 	  good luck chime <:EpicFaceMH:912930767972225095>
[23:56:46] 	  haha tyy
[23:56:51] 	  works with [] idkf
[23:57:02] 	  [[wp:Sic]] goofy bot
[23:57:02] 	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/wp:Sic
[23:57:03] 	  
[23:57:38] 	  wait no
[23:57:40] 	  idfk