[00:20:07] huh [00:39:53] Rating System Wiki had a vote and it decided to moving it to Miraheze [00:40:08] is special import working or still broken [00:47:31] Interesting, don’t think I’ve heard of it. [01:08:37] That is on ratingsystem[dot]fandom[com]. It is about content rating system around the world. [01:56:04] how can i make portable infobox titles in the middle [01:56:11] and not formatted to the left [03:34:26] [1/2] `.pi-title, .pi-header { [03:34:26] [2/2] text-align:center !important; }` [04:00:03] yeah, but Minecraft Wiki which is hosted alongside w/ RuneScape wikis got this too [04:00:23] run on request? [04:32:58] Yep. [05:13:45] Hi (again) [05:14:05] need help [05:14:20] can someone please give me information [05:14:21] ? [05:15:26] Hi what help do you need? [05:15:34] oh great [05:15:40] I just created a wiki [05:15:55]  and want to know how to change the background color [05:16:16] You can use Mediawiki:Common.css to set extra css that applies to most pages [05:16:26] and also, want to know if it's possible to modify the default font for reading. [05:16:44] Do be aware that a few special pages are excluded from that including login [05:17:00] How do I edit this CSS? How do I get in there? [05:17:08] It's a page [05:17:11] On your wiki [05:17:14] um [05:17:28] I managed to understand html, but not CSS. [05:17:34] If you go to yourwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [05:17:38] You'll find it [05:17:53] ok. [05:18:06] We have a team of people on discord who are fairly good at css [05:18:16] Also, I want to know what typefonts are available to use. [05:18:18] I recommend using support threads for help like that though [05:18:35] In theory any font can be loaded [05:18:50] Thanks Rhinos, you’ve answered this faster than I could have. Would have needed to go look up the global css page. 🙂 [05:19:11] * RhinosF1 is off to the station now [05:19:33] 👋 [05:19:42] Can you send me the CSS Discord, please? [05:19:59] I think I'm going to need CSS classes. [05:20:39] depends on skin [05:20:39] Also, how do i activate pop-up bubbles when I place the cursor on a wiki's link? [05:21:47] pop-ups is an extension, which requires two other extensions to work, it's a bit complicated, and I advice to go for it when wiki has a fair amount of pages/content [05:22:55] great. Can you give me the link about how to activate those extensions, please? :) [05:24:07] [1/3] in your admin sidebar must be manage this wiki's extensions [05:24:07] [2/3] use its search bar to find it, but it needs other two to be active first [05:24:08] [3/3] make sure to read documentations (click on extension's name) [05:24:24] you do have discord tho, we have support threads here [05:24:55] general is just very active channel, things tend to get lost here quickly [05:25:19] Yes, I have a discord account. [05:28:19] How can I do to you send me the discord link? [05:28:34] Like in this place the feedback is so slow. [05:30:14] wait a second... [05:30:19] Are you Legroom? [05:30:37] Who's editing at Pizza Tower wiki? [05:30:56] yup [05:31:08] oh [05:31:18] I already talked to you many days ago [05:31:39] lemme check Discord [05:31:55] there's discord invite on main Meta wiki [05:32:06] Miraheze Meta [05:51:01] I think https://miraheze.org/discord works too [05:53:24] cool [05:53:38] Better I should reply to you at discord. [05:56:43] uh no [05:56:52] keep this in server, please [05:57:31] ok, got it. [05:58:17] Can you send me that discord where Miraheze helps about stuff related to CSS? [06:00:59] Zppix sent it above, also you are technically in the server already through relay. but you'd need to actually come here on discord to make a support thread for CSS help [06:01:31] cool [06:02:18] but... which channel should I go to ask for CSS orientation? [06:02:49] Oh... [06:03:08] Ok, I'm here right now on discord. [06:03:27] nice you found it <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [06:03:36] you can make a thread in https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1019689826762637382 [06:03:58] Guys, so the IRC is some kind of mirror of this Discord chat hahaha [06:04:07] yes haha [06:04:10] Ok, thank you. [06:04:51] So I click the 'plus' in the down corner and start creating my thread, right? [06:06:20] probably? on discord it's top right "new post" button [06:17:15] Great. Thank you. [06:18:23] I'm done posting it. I'll be creating the design ideas for my space, if someone can help, great. [07:19:24] [1/4] any luck in tracking it down? :) [07:19:25] [2/4] another thing I noticed - not sure if it’s related or not - is that on the Citizen skin, the footer desc and tagline aren’t rendered. It displays the default text “Edit this text on MediaWiki:Citizen-footer-desc” etc. [07:19:25] [3/4] after a quick search - seems to be [[phab:T338919]], common issues with translatewiki.net localisation. [07:19:25] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phab:T338919 [07:19:25] [4/4] No idea why it happened while on `en` instead of `en-gb`, nor why it defaults to Punjabi, but I’m not looking too much into the details. I expect this’ll be fixed with further updates to translatewiki. :) [07:19:25] [07:19:56] No that's not related and yes it's a common issue [07:20:12] It should be fixed with future translations if someone has spotted it [07:20:22] not related? It seems to be the same thing [07:20:31] unless I’m misunderstanding [07:20:38] No the citizen one not rendering is completely unrelated [07:20:46] oh I see [07:20:55] mhm, makes sense :) [07:28:09] they are still live [07:28:24] i can't work out how they broke to punjab though [07:28:28] going to file a task [07:30:07] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T347932 [08:24:25] @thatgaypigeon patch should be merged soon [08:28:56] @paladox can you update MobileFrontend [08:29:47] what's the update? did they finally fixed mobile.css being unstable? [08:30:16] I deleted the broken translations [08:30:24] and bribed @urbanecm to merge it for me [08:30:34] ah, okay [08:42:23] are there any plans for SimpleTooltip? was looking at it and it seems really old/unmaintained and there's a newer fork by Universal-Omega <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [10:26:38] [1/2] I will teach you how to earn $30k in just 72 hours from the crypto market…if you’re interested message me on WhatsApp on how to start earning... [10:26:38] [2/2] +1 (754) 279-9123 [11:13:51] done [11:17:04] somehow doesn't seem to have taken effect, look at the mobile view link on https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T295065#7483954 [11:17:17] https://thatgaypigeon.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page?uselang=en-gb even [11:18:02] you've used --world --l10n so it should have deleted on disk [11:18:24] you can try check the files on disk and bin them if they haven't [11:18:36] you could also force a full l10n rebuild again [11:25:12] i don't see the issue on there. [11:26:28] maybe it's cached somewhere then [11:27:02] yes [11:27:20] browser cache [11:27:33] @thatgaypigeon now fixed [11:28:18] looks good 👍 [11:28:22] thanks /gen [11:30:42] thanks for raising it [11:30:55] you'll find it happens far too often [11:35:58] [1/2] if wiki gets custom domain, the old `https://...miraheze.org` will function like a redirect? [11:35:58] [2/2] like, previously posted links won't be broken? [11:36:35] @theoneandonlylegroom no links will break [11:37:27] so this might sound really stupid but how do i change my wiki background color to something else without changing skin? [11:39:02] @micropotato you can do it with css but it won't apply to all special pages [11:39:43] why is that? :o [11:40:45] [1/2] i see, can you tell me specifically the commands to do it? [11:40:45] [2/2] i have heard of css but have 0 experience with anything code related [11:42:43] login and preferences, the rest should work [11:43:17] [1/2] check this thread, I just answered to another user [11:43:18] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1158648579603316766 [11:43:22] security reasons [11:43:45] oh, makes sense [11:45:02] hmm still really confusing for me but i'll see what i can do [11:46:53] what exactly confuses you? [11:47:34] how do you access, in my case, MediaWiki:Vector-2022? [11:48:10] add it in URL after `/wiki/` [11:48:23] you'll get a blank page which needs to be created [11:49:07] `...miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Vector-2022.css` [11:50:29] like this, correct? [11:51:32] yes [11:52:51] ok thank you so much [11:53:06] now i just have to look for the way to change it [11:55:29] Wiki.gg uses the Gamepedia one which is available on their Gitlab. [11:55:43] Maybe the contribs thing only works if you used grabbers, idk. It worked for me though. [11:56:07] [1/4] it should be like this or similar [11:56:07] [2/4] body { [11:56:07] [3/4] background-color: #(hexcolor); [11:56:08] [4/4] } [11:58:26] you mean like this? [11:59:08] yeap, only one # is needed though [12:00:48] ok so i did it and ctrl - f5 but nothing seems to change [12:01:40] css changes take a bit to show up so you wouldn't know right away if it worked [12:12:02] [1/2] how long does it usually take? [12:12:02] [2/2] it's been 10 mins or but nothing changed [12:12:06] usually give it a few mins, also keep in mind that "body" is just one id and a site has id's for different parts [12:12:41] it has changed, the outer part of the site [12:13:12] any way i could mass edit to replace "article-table" to "wikitable" in source editor? [12:14:03] auto wiki browser [12:14:16] if we talk about several pages [12:15:28] if it's only one page w/ many cases of replacement, then just copy the entire code into notepad program, use its replace function and copy/pasted fixed code back to the page [12:16:39] source editor can replace tho, but it's such not obvious function, idk how to explain it lol [12:16:54] still nothing like in notepad tho [12:17:31] Ah [12:17:43] like 100 of them? [12:18:00] yeap awb can do that [12:20:35] def awb then [12:21:08] [1/2] really sorry but where is the outer part? [12:21:09] [2/2] all pages remain the same for me, i assume i did something wrong [12:21:17] try zooming out [12:21:36] ooooh that part [12:22:20] not where i wanted to change but progress! [12:22:23] if you want the "main article" to be that color too you'll need a few more things, like the font color also [12:22:52] hunt for classes/ids has begun [12:22:57] yeap haha [12:24:03] so now i have to inspect the page i want to change then find the id and put into vector page? [12:24:58] yeap [12:29:16] wow don't where to look for it [12:30:47] use the "select" tool [12:31:56] or just select random stuff in there haha, it will show you what part of the site it is, usually base of the page stuff is on top [12:32:29] chrome? [12:33:10] yes [12:33:42] i still don't know where this id thing supposed to be [12:34:28] "body/div class=" [12:34:55] the thing after that is the id [12:35:42] [1/2] like this? [12:35:42] [2/2] my bad i thought id was a line of number 🤦‍♂️ [12:36:28] yes <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [12:37:35] however, if you check what it affects, "content" is still a smaller part of the page [12:38:38] it would work as id to set the font-color, but not the full background [12:38:54] there would be a white gap between that and body [12:40:06] i see this one covers entire page, is it the correct one? [12:42:05] yes <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [12:42:42] [1/2] yes! [12:42:43] [2/2] im getting really close now [12:44:01] yeap, now you just need to go back the css page [12:44:36] i think this is it [12:45:22] so how do i tell it to change the color of that id? [12:47:00] same thing but id name w/ `#` instead of body [12:47:34] `#top-page` [12:48:06] [1/2] if it's class then it's gonna be [12:48:07] [2/2] `.mw-page-container` [12:49:02] for the background color you can also multi-purpose the code that's already there, by changing body into body, .mw-page-container [12:52:37] [1/4] you will need to make a new entry for .mw-page-container or the like in the same style though, to change the font-color, it would be added after what's already there [12:52:37] [2/4] .mw-page-container { [12:52:37] [3/4] color: white(or a hexcolor); [12:52:37] [4/4] } [12:52:54] just "color" is the font-color of text [12:57:38] hmm something is still not right [12:57:55] i tested with color first and it did change the font [12:58:08] but background doesn't seem to do anything [12:59:55] oh nvm it did work [12:59:57] just way longer [13:00:55] btw you will still need body in there, if someone zooms out or maybe has a diff screen resolution they'll see a white outer space otherwise, because container doesn't cover that [13:02:45] ok so this is it right? [13:03:19] yeah almost, just need a , after body [13:04:53] lastly, i see that tables' color is still the same [13:05:14] is there a command to change all of them or i just have to do it manually? [13:05:20] yeap, other things will need a different id still [13:06:15] sadly no way to auto change all of them no [13:06:36] Just to make sure, are you using the browser inspector? [13:07:00] With it you can see if the css is correct in real time before pasting it into common.css [13:07:40] yeah we didn't cover that part of the inspector [13:08:08] yes i did use it but sadly i don't know how or where to change in the inspector [13:08:32] there should be a section that shows all styling for a selected element [13:08:36] You can edit it [13:08:59] It will go away after a page reload, but it's the most useful way of tinkering with styles before copying it [13:09:28] oh it works! [13:09:33] thank you so much [13:10:10] It's very handy haha [13:10:41] just a tip, you can add the same styling to multiple elements by listing the id's/classes etc. with commas [13:11:42] [1/6] so something like this if you need to apply the same style or color [13:11:43] [2/6] ```css [13:11:43] [3/6] .class1, #id2, div > .class3 { [13:11:43] [4/6] background-color: tan; [13:11:44] [5/6] } [13:11:44] [6/6] ``` [13:12:30] inspector is also overpowered when it comes to choosing colors [13:12:45] in the way that you can see everything instantly [13:13:49] yeah background color specifically is really slow [13:14:32] it still hasn't changed since this message [13:14:59] if things take longer than like 15 minutes to update from common.css and you already tried hard refreshing, most of the time something is wrong [13:15:04] it can even be a typo [13:15:32] you added the comma right? [13:15:45] absolutely [13:16:14] If you don't have the CodeEditor extension enabled then enabling it helps see the errors faster [13:16:59] it should be body, .mw-page-container [13:16:59] the #hex color value here seems off, should be either 3, 6 or 8 digits [13:17:12] no dot is needed before body [13:17:19] also that yes [13:17:27] body is an element like a div is [13:18:56] yes! i think i accidentally got a c in it while copypaste [13:19:36] make sure to fix the period in body also <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [13:19:49] finally it works [13:19:58] thank you everyone here [13:20:21] <:pepeHeart:1030035268767584256> [13:39:20] would it be viable at all to have like a list of id's for the default skins for common stuff like background color? it's not like they change all the time right? I wonder why that's not a thing yet <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [13:41:59] I'm 90% sure it's not a thing and was thinking it should be [13:42:19] I keep copying bits from my first wiki if I get to work on another lol [13:44:25] I imagine it would be a table w/ class/id of element, its description, and example code w/ result screenshot [13:44:55] yeah that would be neat, and make css a bit more accessible [13:45:36] I promised to make CSS for PI to look like WP infoboxes and still haven't lol [13:45:48] and PI versions of popular WP infoboxes [13:46:18] I feel like I won't get there till December lol [14:08:06] AWB isnt detecting all the pages with an article-table, what do i do? [14:09:05] what are you currently doing? [14:10:35] trying to change all pages with an article-table to make them change those into wikitables since an import of a whole lotta pages just gone through and 90% of them have article tables [14:10:53] (from fandom since were from there) [14:10:55] right, but how are you going about the detecting part? [14:11:01] oh lol [14:11:50] im probably not thinking right but i just downloaded it right now lol [14:12:16] your wiki was the woody one right? [14:12:42] yeah [14:13:44] same thing happens if you search article-table on your wiki, are other pages really using it? :o [14:13:51] yep [14:13:57] can you link one? [14:13:58] as you do to make tables [14:14:00] <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [14:14:48] wait [14:14:56] isn't it fandom table? [14:15:00] i forgot this was before i requested a newer dump [14:15:15] so most of the stuff are still fandom tables [14:15:36] called it [14:15:39] seems that way [14:15:48] oh yeah no [14:15:54] changed it to fandom table [14:15:58] now it works [14:16:56] nice <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> also awb is powerful so review the changes carefully before you set it loose [14:19:57] yep [15:18:18] [1/2] uhh [15:18:19] [2/2] can someone do import requests? [15:43:29] Hi, our entire System Administrator team are volunteers and are very understaff at the moment, the requests will be processed as soon as they have a chance. [15:44:53] ok, thanks [15:48:09] Thanks for the extra context! [16:46:12] well, here I am, requesting another wiki for migration while being occupied by other two migrated wikis lol [16:47:11] I planned to do it later this year, that's one of my old wikis I cared a lot about, but possible game revival rumours are pushing me hard right now [16:47:37] like, absolitely sudden and just an hour ago [16:47:45] the hype is massive [16:51:07] I have 2 weeks for everything 🥲 [16:52:17] migrating to MH or from> [16:52:27] to MH [16:57:02] [1/2] sorry for bothering everyone again i ran into another problem [16:57:02] [2/2] now the Main Page text color blends with the background [16:57:22] is there a way to change only that text color? [16:57:42] you'll have to find active tab class/id and give it differnt `color:` [16:57:56] I have for old Vector, idk about new [16:58:08] the upload file in the toolbox went missing and i cannot for the life of me figure out where it went... @_@ [16:58:41] have you changed something in user groups of permissions? [17:00:58] nope, everyone still has upload perms [17:01:12] are you sure you're logged in? [17:02:01] yep [17:06:31] this is where the color is different, im not sure where the class is <:think:1012928931105607700> [17:16:05] the entire vector-menu-tabs thing. it's also several id's with comma's but pretty sure just copying the entire thing would work [17:16:56] you can also use the plus button to make a new css thing in inspector and test id's that way [17:19:36] you could try turning it on or off too [17:19:46] that's the strange part, everything above is still the correct color until that line [17:19:53] To check if it really is it [17:22:02] turning the color in the span line did change [17:22:28] but i don't know how to change it MediaWiki:Vector-2022.css [17:24:16] I'm not sure what's strange about it, there's a lot of default css for specific parts of the site, this just seems one of those things [17:24:54] just copy the entire id? [17:26:10] it's not different from before, just make a new thing in the css page with the id and color:white it [17:27:44] [1/3] you mean the entire: [17:27:45] [2/3] .vector-menu-tabs .mw-list-item.selected a, .vector-menu-tabs .mw-list-item.selected a:visited [17:27:45] [3/3] ? [17:28:29] yeap [17:32:05] [1/3] also if the id stuff is still confusing, might help to keep in mind the id's are like [17:32:06] [2/3] .1 .2 means it applies only if the site thing has both id's at the same time [17:32:06] [3/3] and 1., 2. with the comma would mean it applies to both .1 and .2 even if they only have one of them [17:32:25] so a thing like ".vector-menu-tabs .mw-list-item.selected a" is just a very very specific id [17:33:52] if I'm not wrong anyway <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [17:34:22] <:worryyay:685483513193300009> It worked! [17:34:45] nice <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [17:35:18] [1/2] thanks for the help! [17:35:18] [2/2] learn something new everyday [17:38:10] yeah, css might seem complicated at first but it's cool to learn all the stuff you can do [17:44:33] Where do I put this [17:45:05] `MediaWiki:Common.css` page [17:45:22] Ókay ty [17:45:36] Pls why does my keyboard keep accidentally accenting things [17:56:14] btw in what case would you use a > ? <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> if the the class is inside the div or something else? [18:06:11] Here you can see all the various selector syntaxes https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css_selectors.php [18:58:59] [1/2] Migrating to Miraheze is always awesome. [18:59:00] [2/2] Miraheze provides services that are paid services for other companies [20:27:20] Exactly. Gummiel already linked the explanation of it, it's not hard to grasp with a reference on the side and a bit of experimentation <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [22:19:06] [1/2] this one is even more confusing [22:19:07] [2/2] i use minerva theme for my wiki on mobile due to better looks so i decided to change its background color as well but it didn't change at all [22:44:43] Minerva Neue ignores the styling pages [22:46:54] so there is nothing you can do? [22:51:59] nvm i figured it out [22:52:17] turns out mobile uses a different css [22:52:28] thank you for the help thoguh