[00:51:51] I’ll teach 10 interested people on how to earn $50k or more within 3 days from the crypto market, but you’ll promise to pay me 10% of the profit. Note only interested people should contact me (HOW) let get started [01:00:04] I believe I've got it fixed with [01:01:19] interesting, have they removed `required` from OOUI? [01:02:56] No, it's just that it seems to verify the component is included in the request, but only checks the $_POST and $_GET globals, while the file upload is actually tracked by $_FILE. This seems to indicate that using required on any file upload widget will make it fail. [01:22:28] How do I create new articles for my Wikipedia page [01:22:36] The support thing is not going well [01:23:07] Support help is not really walking [01:45:29] Make a search for the page that doesn't exist. Click on the link that asks if you want to create that page. [01:46:07] That is typically what I do. You can also type an uncreated page name directly into your address bar. [01:46:54] `https://.miraheze.org/wiki/Name_of_the_page_you_want_to_make` [02:04:04] Personally I thought this would be a good idea and it would be a fun way to share the world I created but I'm just having lots of frustrations figuring things out and it doesn't help that the help center doesn't have what I need [02:06:26] Sorry I'm ranting I'm just feeling frustrated [02:06:32] @soaringmoon [02:06:44] Thank you for helping [02:08:47] [1/5] You'll have to rely on mediawiki documentation. Thankfully, it is very detailed. Unfortunately, it assumes you have a background managing a web service or in programming. [02:08:48] [2/5] Mediawiki has a significant learning curve if you are fresh to it, and haven't acclimated yourself to wiki software or to editing wiki pages. If you this is the first time you have used mediawiki, I suggest just playing around with it on a new page. You can always purge it later. [02:08:48] [3/5] Here is the bare minimum to start. [02:08:48] [4/5] [02:08:49] [5/5] [02:10:19] Well I have some experience I made one or two Wikipedia pages but I got rid of them and I forgot the stuff that I learned [02:10:34] Also how do I verify [02:11:04] `/auth` then click the DM the robot gives you. [02:11:21] ty [02:13:49] lol I thought there would be more channels for verified users [02:13:53] @soaringmoon [02:14:58] XD Same. [02:15:22] If you need any help, which it sounds like you do. I'd be glad to provide it. [02:15:31] ok [02:15:36] Thank you very much [02:21:17] [1/2] Hi, there's some parts of my wiki I want to change and I'm not sure where or how. My wiki uses the Cosmos style, which has this button (I'm not sure that it's specific to this style or if it's just that this style makes it easier to see) [02:21:17] [2/2] Clicking it opens up a dialog that lets you edit pages. I would like to change the text in it, but I'm not sure from where it's pulling it [02:27:40] Are you trying to change the text displayed to the user upon instructing them to create a new article? [02:27:46] [1/2] The main reason for the verification is to be able to post links. [02:27:46] [2/2] I believe stewards etc. can see what MH account you linked as well, which is needed for certain kinds of requests relating to a wiki, so they know you are who you say you are basically [02:28:33] this text, specifically. not sure if that's the one you're referring to [02:29:00] i would like to make it clearer that the link leads to a page listing wanted articles [02:31:38] I believe you create a page named `MediaWiki:Newarticletext`. I think that works, but I'm not entirely sure. [02:31:53] I'll try that [02:33:57] hm, looking it up it appears that this is not it. this is the text that is displayed when you search for a page that doesn't exist but which you can make [02:38:42] It might be part of the skin. [02:46:18] wait is asking for feedback on your Wikipedia allowed [03:03:43] This server does exactly have a rules channel. [03:29:42] I wonder how long it will be until someone posts something really bad that they have to make a full channel [03:31:12] Most people don't read rules channels anyway. [03:31:46] I meant like how long will it be until someone posts something NSFW or worse and then they have to make a rules channel [03:32:15] Survey intervention speed run edition [03:33:11] I know what you meant but I don't think it would change to much. A troll will troll if they physically can lol [03:33:25] neither the code of conduct for miraheze spaces nor the content policy say anything about linking to your wiki or asking for feedback on it [03:33:35] geting bandspeed run [03:34:00] https://truaileiduthocwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [03:34:24] https://tenor.com/view/kfo-killing-fever-online-crystalwarrior-gif-25588452 [03:34:27] @netidiebele [03:34:43] @theandsystem [03:34:59] lol [03:35:09] wait if i ghost ping you with your permission is that a bannable offense [03:35:18] IDK [03:35:33] I'm gonna say the N word [03:35:36] Nigeria [03:35:39] Night [03:35:45] Nigt [03:36:07] noo [03:36:14] New new [03:36:20] There I said it I said the N word [03:41:46] Guess it's time for "discordruleschannels.miraheze.org" [03:41:59] A wiki of discord rules pages. [03:42:01] https://tenor.com/view/wdf-scoob-what-the-fuck-what-the-fuck-is-this-shit-shaggy-gif-18988005 [03:42:08] https://tenor.com/view/wdf-scoob-what-the-fuck-what-the-fuck-is-this-shit-shaggy-gif-18988005 [03:42:16] XD [03:42:45] Lol in #info they have a guidelines article linked [03:43:11] And some rules there to [03:43:26] https://tenor.com/view/sushichaeng-among-us-among-us-meme-shocked-confused-gif-22454610 [03:43:31] @scrapblox [03:44:00] [1/3] Oh they do. [03:44:00] [2/3] But I'm used to rules being in a rules channel. [03:44:01] [3/3] If the rules aren't discord specific, how do we know if we can link to our wiki's here? [03:44:22] Yea it's a bit confusing [03:44:43] https://tenor.com/view/squidward-gif-22922877 [03:44:57] Squidward.ere [03:44:58] what is happening [03:45:15] Talking about rules channel [03:45:24] https://tenor.com/view/among-us-gif-22758383 [03:45:26] me* [03:45:40] Purple=ScrapBlox [03:46:15] [1/2] i see [03:46:15] [2/2] i see a few in #info but thats about it [03:46:42] They also linked a code of conduct article but yea [03:46:57] Are you going to ignore my among us post [03:47:04] Yes [03:47:10] https://tenor.com/view/xd-meme-funny-emoji-gif-15406750 [03:47:11] [1/2] Well it doesn't really cover much. [03:47:11] [2/2] And also yes. [03:47:27] understandable [03:48:19] [1/2] Also I really could use some feedback on my wiki even though it's very basic and I like it that way since I don't need it to be super complex [03:48:19] [2/2] https://truaileiduthocwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [03:48:25] @soaringmoon @scrapblox @bigbee420 [03:48:52] 👀 [03:49:24] I'll check my discord tomorrow for your feedback it's late I'm going to bed folks [03:50:08] well i see a few errors in the text but other than that its fine [03:50:16] [1/2] [03:50:16] [2/2] To edit the sidebar at the left. [03:50:52] Edits need to be below "navigation" but above "SEARCH" [04:40:07] what the hell is going on [05:24:34] i have no idea [05:34:01] What do you mean? [05:35:03] gif spam <:moonch:794697217826095165> [05:47:08] this channel is for user support first and foremost, things move quick here and garbage that occupies half of the screen isn't helping at all [06:37:27] [1/2] pretty interesting how so many wikis opened on Oct 31 [06:37:28] [2/2] check Special:WikiDiscover [06:42:09] Mine was one of them. [06:55:46] oh pook who joined [07:06:14] Oh? [08:38:00] Sup [08:42:39] The staff of a couple of wikis I admin might consider forking outside Fandom [08:45:41] Oh yeah and someone started a Miraheze Vampire Survivors Wiki [09:03:55] Anyone know to replicate this in CSS and JS? [09:25:21] Bonus, I can give you the original html file, sinces this was fetched out from the comic's Google Sites [09:26:18] hover things can be achieved w/ css alone, but anything involving clicks is already js [09:26:52] Oh and actually I just want them to navigate to that characters page [09:27:02] click2go [09:28:02] not calling stats table at the bottom? [09:28:06] nope [09:28:15] I will use it for the Main Page [09:28:53] that's just `[[File:...|link=...]]` then [09:28:53] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:... [09:29:15] if I understand you correctly [09:29:26] [09:31:08] I see, but I want them to looks like the site above- [09:31:36] split them into 2 containers for 2 classroom [11:16:35] [1/2] I don't really get which containers you mean here, the two rows? [11:16:35] [2/2] and what is classroom ... [11:51:31] maybe? yes. [11:56:08] [1/12] well, just make a div w/ images [11:56:09] [2/12] give it, say, `class="portraits"` [11:56:09] [3/12] in CSS [11:56:09] [4/12] `.portraits img { [11:56:10] [5/12] width: 100px; [11:56:10] [6/12] margin: 0; [11:56:10] [7/12] background: white; [11:56:11] [8/12] } [11:56:11] [9/12] .portraits img:hover { [11:56:11] [10/12] filter: opacity(65%); [11:56:11] [11/12] width: 200px; [11:56:12] [12/12] }` [11:56:22] and make two of such divs for two rows? [11:58:29] mind you, I'm on mobile, I can't test it [11:58:45] wait [12:18:12] Sounds good to me! [12:18:28] I owe you this time. [12:53:55] That's an insane number of wikis tbh [13:01:34] [1/2] yeah, usually there's like a dozen new wikis added every day [13:01:34] [2/2] probably the "Stop Using Fandom" video prompted more people to come, or it's just a coincidence [13:02:39] Yea I seen that video as well [13:26:06] Mine too lol [13:58:22] it's a good video imo [14:02:12] Somehow # 6 on trending list [14:04:08] based [14:05:28] uh? [14:07:32] it's a troll, please don't pay attention [14:08:53] been spamming around for couple of weeks already [14:10:07] speaking of, any solution for Phab protection? [14:11:08] macfan, you here? [14:12:58] gotcha [14:13:28] macfan is a SRE member who hangs on IRC instead of discord lol [14:13:45] this channel and IRC are bridged [14:13:59] That's cool 🤣 [14:31:24] [1/2] I don’t like hear only one side so I went to the Fandom discord cause they had a discussion on it. Some of them had some logical rebuttals that I think are good to consider. On the topic of the Grimace thing: [14:31:24] [2/2] > “From what I've heard, Maccas told Fandom they wanted to promote stuff. Fandom then reached out to local admins for their opinion/consent/whatever you want to call it. Local admins agreed.” [14:32:14] Which has very different implications then the video implies [14:34:17] I use Fandom and Miraheze, I absolutely don’t agree with everything fandom does. But you can’t take one video from one side as absolutely fact, and just saying “fandom bad it has ads for fork1!1!1!1” is stupid and wastes everyone’s time. I’m not saying anyone here is doing that but I say it in general [14:35:53] the info about approval didn't seem to be brought up untill this video [14:37:17] Yeah I’ve never heard it [14:37:52] I can't blame the guy not finding out, even I didn't [14:38:06] I intend to look on the MD wiki message walls to see if I can verify the fact Fandom staff got permission from the admins if possible [14:38:13] * know, but posted about it before on tumblr [14:38:18] Fair ig [14:38:25] Though with this kinda video [14:38:33] You really should do your research [14:39:28] tbf he did much better research and presentation than other youtubers who tried to promote new mc wiki [14:39:41] Yeah [14:42:14] The general consensus from Fandom Stars about the video seemed to be “The people in the fandom discord are obviously biased. The people in the Miraheze discord are most likely biased(or as one Fandom mod said “It's not biased it's called an opinion, both us and the video. Having an opinion is not wrong.“) “ [14:42:31] Wait [14:42:33] Wrong copy paste [14:43:28] Not annoyed about the video more about the people [14:43:39] and? [14:45:37] the fact that this phabricator bot's first recommendation is Fandom made me incredibly skeptical [14:45:46] (of its veracity) [14:45:46] ikr lol [14:46:04] like, hmm, i wonder where the bot could've come from! [14:46:28] Hmmm [14:47:13] [1/2] it's just a very petty person who's been vandalizing phabricator before, just ignore them [14:47:14] [2/2] sorry about manual reverts tho [14:49:05] ... how do they keep managing to do that? [14:49:28] i would assume you need special permission to, uh, alter someone else's posts [14:49:50] no, phabricator is like github, kinda [14:49:59] riight [14:50:15] I don't know the details so can't add anything on this [14:57:32] With all of the Receptionists gone, who will greet people when entering Miraheze (geddit)? [15:32:00] Welp, time to get back to porting over my wiki pages. [15:40:53] .oh hi that was me! [15:42:23] honestly fair but to me it sets a dangerous precident [15:42:28] .I will admit that the mossbag video did come up on my recommended, but starting one on Miraheze was purely out of brainrot & a day of playing for like 6 hours [15:44:08] I absolutely agree [15:44:54] Real. I wasn’t the one who made the choice to make our wiki on Mira but our thoughts process was “Fandom or Miraheze? Eh fuck it Miraheze” [15:45:13] Though now that I’ve learned more bout bout I feel it was the right choice [15:45:34] .hell yeah 🤝 [15:47:03] i do think while ads are a huge part in why people hate fandom it's also just like. the way they handle things for sysops in general that make it a pain [15:47:10] like you can't do SHIT without having to go to fandom reps [15:47:40] <3 manage wiki [15:47:57] i love managing wikis independently ... it's my favorite activity [15:48:26] I mean the ads are why it is horrible to browser and affects everyone, and if there are even more issues for people actualy manageing wiki's there that just makes it even worse [15:48:39] the ads imo are a small part of the bigger picture [15:48:49] like obviously they suck and even if you have an adblocker they still hinder preformance [15:48:52] but it's also like [15:49:17] the rating feature ....... [15:49:36] Da wa [15:49:37] and other useless junk [15:49:45] the way fandom operates it's a part of how most corperations and things these days tend to try and look as minimalistic as possible [15:49:53] thingy w/ ugly emojis [15:50:01] Tbf unless your like Miraheze and run on donations(can be risky) you do need ads [15:50:06] i HATE minimalism it only looks good in specific instances [15:50:19] # cough ai quick answers cough [15:51:02] [1/2] Well, honestly that was just poorly implemented. [15:51:02] [2/2] A correctly working system could actually prove useful. [15:51:10] I remember how in 2018 staff was going around big wikis persuading them to slow down on customisation and things like, uh, stopping using navboxes ... [15:51:14] Sure, but fandom very much like youtubr has WAY TOO many. Some pages can be litterally MORE ads than there are content [15:51:18] why use quick answers when you can just look at an infobox [15:51:40] i forget what host it was but the video brought up one that only had one add on the left and i really liked that [15:51:52] eventually they forcibly started to strip down stuff from js/css [15:52:04] Oh def [15:52:16] If you googled a question that leads you to a wiki page, then a question answering robot might be able to find an answer more quickly than reading an article. [15:52:16] Plus the following video and ads in the middle of a page [15:52:49] Maybe. If the answers weren’t nearly always completely wrong, outdated, or made up [15:53:12] ai answers really said "source? i made it the fuck up" [15:53:13] Guh [15:53:26] Real [15:53:50] It’s still a risk I don’t think is worth it [15:53:57] And it takes away from the value of what we write [15:54:23] How, the robot is literally taking text from the wiki to generate the answers. It's using the writing you provie. [15:54:32] Ohh boy... yeah I stumbled on this video yesterday... I did know it was bad, but not that it was THAT bad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTX7zx9F3Rs [15:55:50] If it was that simple it likely would have worked the first time [15:56:10] AI is complex as fuck [15:56:19] And can be a pain in the ass [15:56:38] Technology always finds a way to not do what you want [15:56:46] No matter how much testing you do [15:56:57] [1/2] let me put it like this: i think quick answers does undermine the value of just reading a wiki article, specifically because there is a specific kind of fun you get from reading an article you don't get from quick answers. i might've originally came for an answer to one question, but often i get sucked into the rest of the article because i get invested. i want to know more, [15:56:58] [2/2] i want to read everything [15:57:03] quick answers gets rid of that i think [15:57:51] [1/4] I mean, we can have further discussions about machine learning and its complexity if you would like. [15:57:51] [2/4] But again, I said it was a poor implementation. [15:57:52] [3/4] An AI answer generating robot isn't inherently flawed because it is an AI. [15:57:52] [4/4] Fandom just sucks at using machine learning tools. [15:58:49] Agree [15:58:58] The latter is a fact [15:59:21] despite being an artist and writer i don't inherently hate AI but i do hate what it's been used for, especially when it was never meant to replace people as writers and artists [15:59:26] if anything they're just good to bounce ideas off of [15:59:29] The former is, well it’s not inherently flawed yes, weather it’s a good idea is a matter of opinion [15:59:43] <:StrongestSupportMH:945088423469916160> [16:00:29] [1/3] For sure. XD [16:00:29] [2/3] I was just trying to get at the fact that if they took the time to implement it properly, it might have actually be a useful addition. [16:00:29] [3/3] Wanted? No. But certainly useful. Especially if it cross references multiple wikis to get answers. Then relays potential conflicts in the accuracy of information. [16:00:35] [1/2] The issue with AI answers, is that it basically queries the entire Internet (that is ofc a gross over simplification, but still about right), meaning its intelligence is more of less that of the average human since it used the whole collective knowledge, which is a pretty bad level really. AI can be an amazing tool, but for overall answers over the entire fucking Internet is not one [16:00:35] [2/2] of them [16:01:04] i thought the quizzes on fandom were kind of cute but they miss the entire point of wikis [16:01:10] You assume fandom's AI answers came from places other than fandom. [16:01:13] Hold on tho, I might want to consider to move it to a thread. [16:01:29] Yea [16:01:33] Oh then I'll stop. [16:01:43] I thought this was a general discussion channel [16:02:06] “General discussion about Miraheze and MediaWiki” [16:02:07] Eh [16:02:09] Close enough? [16:02:26] Is this not a discussion about AI answer question implimentation on a mediawiki platform? [16:02:35] Yeah [16:02:51] Then it's about mediawiki lol. [16:03:03] we usually discuss other farm in offtopic yeah [16:03:09] Eh [16:03:10] Fair [16:03:18] I'll drop it though. [16:03:34] or me can just move it to a thread? [16:03:47] [1/2] can yeah [16:03:48] [2/2] I don't like threads tho lol [16:03:54] rip [16:04:44] threads are nice occasionally [16:04:49] but not often imo [16:04:54] Yeah [17:40:34] Is there a way for a JS script to load for only one specific page only? I wanna make like a tool that requires some JS wizardry but I don't want the script to keep loading for each page (or at least I suspect it would be incredibly inefficient to have Common.js check if it's in a specific page each and every time you go on a page) [17:50:39] can someone who knows how to use EasyTimeline help me in #How do I make this? [18:23:08] [1/6] I'm having a weird issue with my CSS, basically this class isn't working anymore (point was to invert white pngs to dark pngs if in default mode and revert back to no filter white on dark background [18:23:08] [2/6] ```.lightmode-invert:not(client-darkmode) { [18:23:08] [3/6] filter: invert(1) hue-rotate(180deg); [18:23:08] [4/6] -webkit-filter: invert(1) hue-rotate(180deg); [18:23:09] [5/6] }``` [18:23:09] [6/6] From what I understand the invert is automatic now but it means I need to make those white pngs dark again? [18:52:33] <__mangone__> is it possible to port a wiki from fandom over automatically? [18:54:13] in short, you should make an xml dump of text content + file dump, and give them to Miraheze sysadmins to quickly upload on your new blank wiki [18:55:11] <__mangone__, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> i am completely illeterate code wise so you're speaking a completely different language to me [18:56:46] [1/3] * you create an archive of fandom wiki [18:56:46] [2/3] * you request new wiki on Miraheze [18:56:46] [3/3] * when it gets approved, you ask Miraheze tech guys to put the archive on new wiki [18:56:56] <__mangone__> already got my wiki [18:57:00] <__mangone__> so how do i do the last part? [18:57:02] there's nothing about coding lol [18:58:16] [1/4] this is for xml file [18:58:16] [2/4] [18:58:17] [3/4] this is for archive files (images, videos, etc) [18:58:17] [4/4] [18:59:37] <__mangone__> this is all so confusing qwq [19:00:19] what exacly is confusing? [19:00:35] you got archive of fandom wiki? [19:00:38] <__mangone__> for one i cant find anything about archiving the fandom wiki [19:00:47] you likely need to add `img` to that, because of some css changes [19:01:15] that was the first step, but you asked about last xd [19:01:16] okay [19:01:34] <__mangone__> well i assumed there would be some kind of article tbh [19:01:56] [19:02:33] <__mangone__> oh [19:02:36] <__mangone__> there is an article [19:03:03] yeah, this is Meta Wiki, it has a lot of info on how things on Miraheze works [19:03:09] including a FAQ [19:03:21] but I'd say [19:03:31] tried it to no avail, it keeps doing the exact opposite of what I want somehow [19:03:39] do not ask fandom staff to create archive [19:04:17] <__mangone__> well its a bit late for that one [19:04:45] [1/2] it's better to use different way, which also will get you files, because fandom won't give you them [19:04:46] [2/2] but it requires some hoops w/ python program [19:05:05] <__mangone__> ykw [19:05:09] <__mangone__> ima just import it manually [19:05:20] bad idea [19:05:24] copyrights [19:05:29] <__mangone__> wdym copyrights [19:05:38] all wikis work under licenses [19:06:02] you can't copy past stuff, you should make at least text import w/ all page histories [19:06:08] <__mangone__> why? [19:06:18] Yeah fandom unfortunately will go to great lengths to ensure your wiki stays with them, the bigger it is the further they go, but it absolutely is possible to move a wiki, but may be a lot of work, particularly for big ones [19:06:21] because that's how wikis work [19:06:45] <__mangone__> i cant just take the images and upload them then add the code into the pages?? [19:07:25] it seems the `not` thingy is simply not working [19:07:57] if you gonna just copy paste text w/o page histories then you'll get us into trouble [19:08:02] <__mangone__> OH [19:08:06] <__mangone__> okay then i wont [19:08:18] listen [19:08:20] slow down [19:08:23] lemme explain [19:08:38] <__mangone__> i thought it was gonna be a problem on my end but if it involves y'all ill just do it with the method on the page [19:09:18] [1/2] I don't have time to explain how wiki copyrights work, fandom follows them too [19:09:19] [2/2] but [19:10:45] [1/5] you asked fandom to create an archive [19:10:45] [2/5] it should include all page histories [19:10:45] [3/5] this one is easy, you can upload it here [19:10:46] [4/5] and after that, you can go and manually save all images and other files and upload on Miraheze [19:10:46] [5/5] this one is okay thing to do [19:11:15] <__mangone__> the wiki is quite small so i can actually use the special:import page it says [19:11:27] Special:Import often fail [19:11:42] <__mangone__> its 300kb surely it aint gonna lose its mind [19:11:42] you can try ofc [19:12:18] <__mangone__> what do i put in the interwiki prefix box [19:12:35] fandom [19:12:38] <__mangone__> k [19:13:54] <__mangone__> 504 gateway time-out [19:13:55] <__mangone__> rip [19:14:05] told ya [19:19:58] <__mangone__> uhhh [19:20:03] <__mangone__> im definitely uploading the xml [19:20:54] @orduin RequestImportDump wasn't fixed? [19:21:03] Oh, shoot, I merged the fix, but never deployed [19:21:18] keep forgetting puppet doesn't auto-deploy [19:21:21] <__mangone__> im assuming that means the fix exists but isnt uploaded [19:21:28] yea, wait a sec [19:21:34] <__mangone__> oki doki :D [19:23:38] Welcome, everyone on the Miraheze website! [19:23:47] hey there [19:24:31] So uh... yeah, I'm the guy who sent a recent wiki request... how do I get verified? [19:25:27] if your request is accepted you'll get a notif on Meta wiki AND email (if you attached one to your account) [19:26:05] wiki creator can ask a question in request comments tho, if there's not enough info etc [19:27:14] <__mangone__> ok the request sent through [19:28:00] Deploy just finished too, so you must have just gotten it through [19:28:12] we expect a lot of import requests now, both xml and files on phabricator ... [19:35:21] <__mangone__> alright sent in my images too [19:52:47] it's ok, we'll see what the community on fandom wants first [19:59:26] how do I add a page for something [20:03:15] search for it and click on red link [20:04:51] we need new page button/link to be in sidebar on all skin, like cosmos does [20:05:14] os it possible to inject like managewiki sidebar? [20:05:23] for all wikis [20:05:40] <__mangone__> if there was a new page button on the side of the wiki it'd be a godsend [20:06:06] <__mangone__> stuff like that is one of the reasons i quite like fandom [20:07:37] [1/2] for some reason mediawiki never made it, so we gotta do something on our own like [20:07:37] [2/2] [20:08:33] and cosmos skin has new page button in the corner, it's an imitation of previous wikia/fandom skin [20:09:10] <__mangone__> speaking of skins [20:09:16] <__mangone__> is there any easy way to make a skin? [20:09:37] <__mangone__> cuz i see wikis on sites like wiki.gg and they have custom images nd such [20:09:52] CSS [20:11:03] some project on wiki.gg are so hardcore, they have css/js guros in their teams ... [20:11:35] <__mangone__> i just mean smth like this [20:11:42] <__mangone__> with the grass top nd such [20:12:01] <__mangone__> ill probably ask my friend who knows CSS [20:12:12] [1/5] If you mean the whole: [20:12:12] [2/5] > Manage this wiki's core settings [20:12:12] [3/5] > Manage this wiki's extensions [20:12:13] [4/5] etc. there is an option in your preferences to always show that on any wiki regardless of your usergroup [20:12:13] [5/5] "Force the display of ManageWiki links in the sidebar." at the top of Appearance tab [20:13:59] will it create a article for my wiki or for its? [20:14:06] and how to I hyperlink a sentence [20:15:17] yeaah [20:15:18] this is not an easy thing to implement [20:16:38] no, I meant can our dev folks to implement a create page link in sidebar, w/ a pop up window like button in cosmos does [20:17:01] Even though I'm not good at making title pages for wikis what do you guys think [20:17:29] <__mangone__, replying to netidiebele> adding capital letters makes it look a lot cleaner, other than that it looks decent :D [20:17:30] [1/3] [[mw:Help:Formatting]] [20:17:30] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting [20:17:31] [2/3] [[mw:Help:Links]] [20:17:31] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Links [20:17:31] [3/3] [[mw:Help:Images]] [20:17:31] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images [20:17:31] [1/3] [20:17:32] [2/3] [20:17:32] [3/3] [20:17:57] NO I'm gonna be chaotic and randomly capitalize random characters you can't stop me [20:18:17] <__mangone__, replying to netidiebele> okay? [20:18:25] yeah, Terraria Wiki is sure nice looking but it has massive skin modifications behind it [20:18:33] nvm [20:19:09] before 2021 folks would go crazy w/ customisation on fandom too [20:19:22] it was much better than what it is now [20:19:55] and yet, as I said before, they would suppress individuality even before that [20:20:46] <__mangone__> i remember once fandom decided it'd be funny to show me an ad that was the size of the page [20:21:24] <__mangone__> honestly its just a shame that the website is so dumb because its one of the easiest and cleanest experiences ive had [20:22:32] if the community isn't primarily young children (nothing against them but generally they don't tend to understand the importance of wikis and whatnot) they're probably gonna want to leave fandom lmao [20:24:51] clicking on a red link (which means page doesn't exists) will take you page creation form/editor [20:36:24] [1/2] don't you have anything better to do than checking for incoming wiki migrations from FANDOM? [20:36:24] [2/2] get out of here. [20:40:52] <__mangone__> i am so confused whats with the hostility [20:43:05] [1/2] .I do have an etiquette question: is it a huge deal if someone not affiliated w/ a Fandom branch of a wiki making their own on another site? [20:43:06] [2/2] .I only recently learned vampire survivors actually has its own wiki on fandom [20:45:05] [1/3] you mean starting another wiki from scratch? [20:45:05] [2/3] but you'll have to have original content, textual at least [20:45:06] [3/3] if you gonna copy from fandom, you'll have to provide credits to its editors [20:45:27] Gurus or prophets? [20:45:55] [1/2] .ah okay [20:45:55] [2/2] .that was the plan so I'm glad to hear I'm on the right track ^^;; [20:46:36] Megami Tensei Wiki done exactly that, they started new fully independent wiki from scratch, and picked a more strict license (copyright), so neither them, nor fandom would be able to copy from each other [20:48:19] [1/2] Though whether you got aware of the other one existing before or after, while it may not be part of any rules it would imo generally be a good idea to make the people of the original wiki aware. Heck I mean if you can manage to make a better version I am sure they would want to know even, and thus contribute to your version growing, if you are again able to make one that is as good o [20:48:19] [2/2] r better, and maybe some of the ppl from the original version might even come and help [20:50:00] [1/2] .ooo that sounds like that could be fun! [20:50:01] [2/2] .perhaps when I get time to get the skeleton set up I'll contact the [20:53:52] interesting idea [21:00:22] Yeah, but always best to ask [21:00:25] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [21:02:55] i guess? idk it just feels like you're really trying hard to stick your neck out for fandom a lot, especially since you shat on miraheze in the wiki.gg discord not too long ago [21:05:48] JustLeafy openly shittalked about Miraheze in wiki.gg's Discord server and also proceeds to take a look at incoming wiki migrations (I've seen an example of him removing the new wiki URL from a relatively obscure and unknown wiki after they joined wiki.gg) [21:06:23] So for him to be here is just extremely suspicious [21:40:09] aaand he left [21:42:17] Good riddance [21:50:54] lol [22:07:51] Why, when I try to change my wiki's theme, does it just stay as the one it was before? [22:09:53] If you're changing something in Special:ManageWiki, it doesn't update the skin you've got set in Special:Preferences [22:12:06] so the wikis skin depend on my preferences? [22:15:40] What you see does [22:18:37] alright but also when I screw with the wiki's styling and try to change the background colour it only changes o my user page [22:20:41] Any changes in the sitewise css and js pages (ie those in the Mediawiki: namespace), usually take a while to update. So a good idea to either test the changes in either your browsers inspector, or your own user version of them first before migrating them to the sitewide once you are satisfied with the result [22:20:54] what [22:41:28] when testing out my styling change I used incognito mode, but you will need to wait a minute or so for it apply the change. [22:48:41] How would incognito help?, again inspector or user page version is the 2 options that actually apply it instantly. Inspector does it on the fly as you do it, but doesn't stick if you reload the page (which I generally prefer), where user version of the page you still have to save the page but does apply even when you go around the wiki, so pros and cons to both there [22:51:19] Who can edit the wiki? [22:51:25] exept me ,the creator [22:51:34] can other random people just come in and edit? [22:52:36] If public by default anyone, if private only you can even see anything but the main page (aside for MH stewards and the like ofc) [22:53:28] ok thank you [23:15:07] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vcsUYNA83pc?feature=share [23:17:14] @gummiel i regret looking at the wiki in your profile why do you even have it [23:20:58] [1/2] I mean... I specifically state it is NSFW in with the link there... And there is several warning on the main page as well, before you see anything NSFW, so kinda your own fault if you go that deep still to find some of that kind of stuff without being able to take it. As for why I have the link there, because it is hosted by MH, so usefull when needing help with stuff to have it at h [23:20:58] [2/2] and [23:22:47] I guess you're right it is kinda my fault I just was surprised by the game itself just the way it is and how kind of extreme it is [23:22:59] Definitely might need some bleach in my eyes [23:25:18] I am not gonna discuss that any further... Both because I do not have the desire to it, nor is it the right place for that kind of discussion [23:27:58] i agree about this is not the right place to discuss your NSFW game but also you kind of seemed upset about my opinion about the game [23:38:15] [1/3] hey! i was wondering about changing my username? [23:38:15] [2/3] i submitted a request to change my username (from "Luigifan53" to "LJorSomething") to miraheze a month or multiple ago and it seemingly was ignored? i'm still listed by my old alias on miraheze. [23:38:15] [3/3] though, i tried making a new account with my new and desired username, and was told that the name i requested was taken? [23:41:49] It would really suck if he found out that someone already took the name that you want [23:51:22] Hoo boy, completely forgot about the global renames request queue. [23:51:55] [1/2] > There is no global account for "LJorSomething". [23:51:56] [2/2] Looks like you'll be fine, and I'll go approve that one now so there's definitely no problems. [23:57:11] Rename done