[00:01:06] thank you so much! [00:25:48] https://youtu.be/1giQVuoTAFM [00:36:55] I just had the bad Gateway message on my wiki [00:38:45] If it is just a one time thing, that went away after a reload, it usually safe to just chalk it up to a hiccup. Ofc if it keeps happening regularly then it is worth reporting [00:46:27] what is a bad Gateway message? [00:47:11] when you try to submit edit and you get '504 bad gateway" error in response [00:47:21] Ohhh ok [00:47:27] @netidiebele just that the wiki won't load [00:48:14] it sometimes happen if there's too much traffic, but it is unusual. [00:48:40] except when we have experienced DDOS, then it was truly obnoxious. [01:16:46] Hi [01:16:53] Uhh im a little stuck lol [01:17:19] I cant figure out how to change the logo in the top left of my wiki [01:19:10] go to Special:ManageWiki/settings, then the Styling tab [01:19:20] Oki [01:19:25] Ill try that, one minute [01:19:55] Logo ($wgLogo)? [01:20:40] yeap [01:20:48] I thought this was the logo? [01:21:41] you need to paste a full link in there. if you have the logo on your wiki you can go to the file and click on it again to get a link with "static" in it [01:21:51] That's the Favicon [01:21:56] ooooooh [01:22:04] Thanks guys!! [01:22:13] Im a bit new to this 😅 [01:24:15] Okay already got another question lol, how do I view all my uploaded files? [01:24:58] Special:UncategorizedFiles or Special:ListFiles [01:25:33] thank you! [01:26:51] Or you might specifically want Special:MyUploads to see only your uploads. [01:27:20] That'll be very useful for when I invite more editors! [01:27:40] I hope its okay if I end up asking a lot of questions 😓 [01:29:11] that's what this place is for, so yes 😄 [01:38:01] So the main page that was created, I just edit that one for my main page right? [01:38:18] I just ask because this is throwing me off [01:38:31] Mentioning that it "hasn't been replaced yet." [01:38:44] Yes. [01:38:53] Alright cool [01:39:44] it's like saying the content is a placeholder haha [01:39:59] Ahh that makes sense [01:40:01] Thanks! [01:43:53] So how do I make my wiki look...good? [01:44:00] I saw something about a theme [01:44:17] Do i need to upload image files that have embeded links? [01:45:15] I know thats a bit of a broad question [01:46:38] But how do I go from plain wikipedia type look, to a cool look like that of more official game wikis. [01:46:50] I did see the visual editor [01:47:35] Is it kinda like coding? [01:47:41] mostly CSS [01:47:45] yeap [01:47:47] Oh gosh... [01:47:54] I got some learning to do 😅 [01:48:14] But im determined, I hate fandom, which is why I started this new wiki. [01:48:30] Also the Fandom one is rather outdated [01:48:59] Is there a good video guide I could follow? Or will it be mostly forum scouring? [01:50:03] Oh also my logo doesnt seem to be changing [01:50:09] The favicon did tho [01:51:59] And I did clear my cache, several times [01:54:43] [1/2] this site has a lot of info [01:54:43] [2/2] https://www.w3schools.com/css/css_selectors.asp [01:56:24] <:Puroheart:934524727500894229> [01:57:16] something that will help a lot is if you get familiar with the inspect tool in your browser [01:57:40] Really? Interesting. [01:59:12] yeap, you can select stuff with it and type in there. it will autofill the functions for you and you can preview in real time what it does [01:59:35] Once you mastered on how to use inspect tool and basic CSS, it should be easy to customize the look of the wiki [01:59:57] Themes are actually most of CSS btw [02:00:25] Yeah I'll be honest, I have not learned any CSS. [02:00:32] But I guess this is the time to [02:00:46] Time to do what I always do, stumble my way to the finish line. [02:00:53] CSS is actually very easy to learn, they are some of the easiest stuffs out there [02:01:07] Easy like Python easy? [02:01:16] easier than python [02:01:19] EASIER!? [02:01:21] DAMN [02:01:25] Okay okay [02:04:14] [1/2] I mean I would say it is probably easier to learn the basics than most other programming, as it is not really a true programming language, though some of the deeper stuff and how inhertance works can be extremely complicated I find a times, and it might just be better to trial and error, and sometimes just go: [02:04:14] [2/2] Doing it like this seems to work, but I have no idea why [02:07:55] [1/2] @firezombie234 this might also help for the basics of selectors [02:07:55] [2/2] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn/CSS/Building_blocks/Selectors [02:09:48] I mean that one is essentially the official documentation. I do find that w3schools most times are FAR easier to understand (though the MDN version does go a bit deepers usually, maybe exactly why it can be harder to understand) [02:10:32] It seems easier just because of the Try it Yourself button [02:10:49] Like that example seems really helpful [02:11:09] this might sound crazy but I actually have the discord template for USSR RP [02:11:28] Anyone want to use it [02:13:14] [1/2] I mean it may be for some, but I rarely use that, and in terms of the css needed for wiki it may not always be that usefull partly due to the few restrictions and partly the parts that are already part of the skins that we don't see unless inspecting the entire sourcecode in the inspector. It is really to me at least rather the way it is written that tends [02:13:14] [2/2] to be easier to understand for me on w3schools, but ofc with all such kinds of things YMMV [02:32:14] @chimecrime Is there anyway to just get the image without the weird box around it? [02:34:45] yeah, if you use an image without frame or thumb [02:34:46] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Images#Format [02:35:02] that look like an infobox [02:35:56] yeah, I was just thinking of the frame, not the image box if you meant hat [02:35:57] Uhh I think Im using the "VisualEditor" [02:36:05] And I clicked Insert Image [02:36:26] Oh the box that surrounds the actual image [02:36:34] Where the caption would go [02:38:31] that's the image format stuff, you can change it in visual editor by editing the image [02:39:13] <:4912sadgepray:851711585739472898> thank you! [02:39:18] it worked! [02:39:53] Much better looking [02:42:45] That said, while Visual Editor is easier to use (when it works), there are things that you can't do with visual editor sometimes, and requires you to go into source editing. And in particular if you are an administrator and/or bureaucrat of a wiki, you really NEED to learn how to use source editor if you want to get anywhere [02:44:19] Understood. My plan is to use the visual editor to get the general layout down, then use the source editing to add the nicer details [02:44:34] Is that a good plan? [02:46:05] Sounds fair enough. I mean personally I use source editor for everything, but I did have prior programming knowledge before starting wiki'ing so that to makes it seem like childs play to use, but ofc I understand that may not be the case for everyone [03:15:10] Hello [03:15:54] Does any one have the experience editing the Timeless.css to make it show custom text in the top right instead of the sitename? [03:16:03] top left [03:20:17] @lakelimbo I could use your help [03:20:29] Remember me, it's wraith from Fanon Wiki [03:22:59] If you have a way to make it happen that @gummiel isn't aware of, then that'd be great. [03:23:07] oops [03:23:15] sorry for at [03:26:20] hello yes [03:26:43] (if you want you can drop a dm and i'll reply to you tomorrow because it's almost 1 am for me) [03:27:04] okay, sounds good [03:58:17] @gummiel I cant figure out how to change this [03:59:41] Or anyone else I guess could help me [03:59:53] Change in what way? [04:00:36] Change it to a image [04:01:06] Is it a source thing? [04:01:28] Or can I attach it like I did the favicon [04:01:29] Check https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1169468642736492574 had a discussion about logo in there not long ago [04:01:55] Ill let you know if it works [04:13:42] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [04:13:53] And I did clear my miraheze cache [04:14:06] and just in case, mediawiki cache as well [04:21:23] it shows up if you switch the skin, maybe a 2022 vector thing? [04:22:06] Special:ManageWiki/extensions#mw-section-skins? [04:22:39] Currently, MinervaNue it the only one ticked [04:22:44] yeah, you can slap a ?useskin=Timeless at the end of the url to preview a skin, that's what I did haha [04:26:34] also not saying you should change the skin, just that it works if changes so the image itself is fine. there may be some way to get a logo to work on vector 2022, I'm not familiar with it <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [04:48:24] Still having issues @chimecrime [04:48:32] Not really sure what to do... [04:49:25] this maybe? [04:50:17] Oki [04:50:20] One minu [04:50:28] should be same place in settings, just below it [04:51:07] In the skins section? [04:52:09] Also what even are the skins [04:52:18] I tick the box for one, save and nothing happens [04:52:46] Users can switch them. You have to uncheck the default selection. [04:53:16] MinervaNeue? [04:53:36] [1/2] If you leave only 1 checked, it will be what the wiki uses. If you leave more than one checked people can switch between them. [04:53:37] [2/2] Yep, Minerva. [04:54:44] Gamepress is the only one checked [04:54:45] No change [04:55:15] no in the logo settings place [04:55:16] Acutally, yeah I was just about to say this. I did that to test, and it isn't working for me either hold on. [04:55:28] oh [04:56:25] Oh, yeah if you are just chaning the logo lol, do that. [04:57:50] @chimecrime Getting somewhere [04:57:56] Now I need to remove the text [04:59:18] that and the logo size can be changed with css [04:59:35] <:Z1Pwease:813359866143571998> [04:59:52] Ahem [04:59:58] Where do I go to work on that [05:00:42] Well I do want a nice theme for my wiki [05:01:16] [1/2] in extensions menu you make skin available to use on your wiki [05:01:17] [2/2] to set up a default skin for the wiki you should go to additional settings, styling tab [05:02:19] Default Slin [05:02:26] At the top of the page... [05:02:31] some skins are hard coded into the wiki tho so they're forever enabled, but you can hide some from using by other users, who can choose preferable skin in their user settings [05:03:08] huh wait so If you happen to enable the wrong skin you just cant remove it? [05:04:22] not sure what you mean, but sometimes admin would goof w/ some settings and it's gonna be very confusing to revert stuff back [05:05:01] [1/2] >hard coded into the wiki tho so they're forever enabled [05:05:01] [2/2] so you just cant remove them? [05:05:02] probably means you can't disable some of the default skins already there [05:05:25] Ah [05:05:29] Yeah that makes sense [05:06:10] yeah, can't disable, but can hide from use anyway [05:07:16] Well I know how to use skins now [05:07:27] So I can spend some time scrolling through those later [05:08:20] What the hell did the evelution skin do... [05:08:33] also you place css code on a page like MediaWiki:Common.css, this is sitewide but updates slowly. you can also make a User:(yourusername)/common.css page, this updates right away but is only visible to you [05:08:33] oh dear [05:08:49] evelution is ... something [05:08:58] tf [05:09:07] wha- [05:09:41] we wouldn't have if it if one (1) wasn't very obnoxious about adding it [05:10:33] I think it fixed itself [05:11:46] It looks kinda nice I guess [05:12:04] Its kinda what I'd like for the layout of the wiki [05:12:42] At least it keeps me from having to mess with this [05:21:02] How do I rename a page? [05:24:19] "move this page" in toolbar. in that skin it's... somewhere. tbh your chosen skin will make things a bit difficult for you, as you're still learning and probably less ppl have experience with that one [05:24:56] Its a really funny skin tbh [05:25:12] theres a 3/4 chance that the first time you load it page it just breaks [05:30:09] Wait is the issue that I cannot have ## in my title? @chimecrime [05:31:01] maybe? # is used to link to a specific header/part of the page [05:31:17] So thats probably the issue [05:31:21] Thats a bit sad [05:31:26] Bc thats the enemies name [05:41:38] yes "A MediaWiki page name can have a leading space but not a trailing space. The ASCII characters that are not allowed in MediaWiki page names are the three types of brackets, sharp sign, underscore and vertical bar, and all control characters (including tabs and newlines)." https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:PAGENAMEE_encoding [05:41:45] @chimecrime (From the Fandom page) Im guessing if I want something like this it'll take some CSS editing? [05:42:35] that looks like an infobox, and yes [05:42:45] Okay [05:42:46] Thanks [05:44:02] [1/2] [[User:Legroom/Infoboxes]] [05:44:02] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Legroom/Infoboxes [05:44:02] [2/2] just in case [05:44:03]

[05:45:05] Oh thanks [05:53:55] Going to spend the next few hours porting over articles, and make sure everything is displaying correct. 😛 [06:03:58] Does anyone know if there is a reliable way to impliment leaflet maps? [06:22:12]