[00:08:58] @avengium [00:13:58] Hi [00:14:58] [1/2] In common.css is for common use. That means for every skin. [00:14:58] [2/2] If you only want that on am specific skin, put it on the .css page [00:15:18] Okay so yes [00:15:38] Also im a noob, so Im not sure what css class is :P [00:17:53] typing for awhile <:slugsweateyes:695022452337803284> [00:18:56] Oh wait I think I see it [00:19:08] [1/4] The CSS is the language for style pages so everything written on a style page is on CSS language (usually). [00:19:08] [2/4] The style is given to every element. [00:19:08] [3/4] Each element has a name. These names are called classes. [00:19:09] [4/4] When you want to copy the name of an element to reference it, you are copying its class [00:19:09] Well I see it for the header I think [00:19:18] [1/2] You can read more about that here: [00:19:18] [2/2] https://www.w3schools.com/w3css/w3css_references.asp [00:19:26] Ahh [00:19:36] So...Okay hold on I'll try something and report back [00:20:46] Wait where do I find common.css? [00:20:53] I thought it was ManageWiki:Common.CSS [00:20:57] I appear to be wrong [00:21:20] MediaWiki not ManageWiki [00:21:26] Darn [00:21:27] So close! [00:21:29] Thanks [00:22:05] I log of discord. Until tomorrow [00:22:13] [00:22:47] @gummiel Is this right? [00:23:45] think the css part at the end should be lowercase too, but otherwise correct [00:24:30] Found it! [00:24:33] Thx [00:29:26] what are some recommended extensions for wikis forking from fandom to miraheze [00:29:46] @firezombie234 remember the selector thing? those are classes [00:31:17] Well I see a thing that says class="cosmos-pageAligned mw-body ve-init-mw-desktopArticleTarget-targetContainer" [00:31:25] So I assume that is the class [00:32:27] classes, they're sperated by a space. you might not need all of them, you can do some testing in inspect tool to see what affects it [00:34:05] [1/2] I'm getting an extremely weird error with two pages I edited today. You can't view the page, you can if you check the page history- but you can't edit it, and you can't revert the most recent edit to try to fix it. It says "check related logs" but there's no logs indicating anything weird has happened. [00:34:05] [2/2] https://cheeseepedia.org/wiki/Munch%27s_Make_Believe_Band_Residency [00:34:31] We're fixing that now [00:34:39] Ah sitewide problem? gotcha [00:34:47] Yeah [00:34:56] it's safe to edit now right? <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [00:36:08] Well I hope so [00:36:18] I just spent 40 minutes getting a rounded border to work [00:40:37] Should be, we reverted the config change that caused the problem, only thing to do now is fix broken revisions. [00:41:11] Speaking of, script is going alphabetically and is currently midway through the bs [00:43:35] Also, short FYI that the edit summary for all affected revisions will be lost. I don't think that will be a huge loss, but just puting this out there in case anyone is wondering. [00:44:36] @chimecrime Ive got this weird thing going on in my common.css code [00:44:45] This empty space wont go away [00:44:56] And I cant delete it, it just deletes the actualy code [00:45:32] isn't that like a thing where clicking on it minimizes the code? [00:45:40] good thing I actually save my source file into a notepad before pressing safe so I lost nothing and this was a good opportunity to finally split up the archive which was necessary anyway. [00:45:51] I think so? [00:46:53] Looks more like an inconsistency with the syntax highlighter tbh [00:47:32] you don't need that all the green stuff btw, that is classes in the background field, they shouldn't go there [00:47:55] wait so what do I need to edit this [00:48:02] The grey inside [00:48:15] just cosmos-pageAligned? [00:49:00] you are using classes twice [00:49:29] Oh wait, so would I put the green part in place of the body part? [00:49:30] classes go where "body" is. and you might only need body [00:50:10] can vary but setting the background usually works on body, unless your skin is more weird [00:51:58] hrrrrggghhhh [00:52:03] Ill get there eventually [00:52:14] basically try this [00:52:35] Wont that just set the background background? [00:52:41] the brown part in this [00:52:53] Cause I did do that to change that [00:52:54] but isn't that the background? [00:52:58] Well yes [00:53:05] But not the background I want to change [00:53:14] see the red highlighted area? [00:53:29] And the dark grey "background" [00:54:06] that's usually .mw-body [00:54:21] Okay one sec [00:55:12] HEY [00:55:14] Getting there [00:55:20] Now I need to edit its border [00:55:26] Conmon Void W [00:57:16] its not .mw-border like I thought it would be [00:57:45] well you're trying to change the border of mw-body [00:58:04] so just put `border-color` under the background-color [00:58:12] Ahh okay [00:58:17] yeah that makes sense [00:59:21] Okay well it makes sense but seemingly does nothing [01:01:50] oh wait [01:02:35] Hmmm [01:02:46] OH [01:02:48] I see it I think [01:02:55] oh wait no [01:02:58] nvm [01:04:38] [1/2] Keep in mind changes to the mediawiki css pages takes a while to take effect. So usualy a good idea to test it either directly in your browsers inspector, where it updates on the fly as you make the changes, but doesn't stick if you go to a different page/reload the page. Or you can test it in your User:yourname/common.css which takes effect as soon as you save it but only shows for [01:04:38] [2/2] you. So once youa re happy with the result you can then move it over to the MediaWiki: version for it to affect everyone [01:05:37] Ahh okay [01:05:46] Ill just wait a bit then [01:05:58] <:Waiting:1141555418028585000> [01:07:19] Well I mean show preview seems to immediately show me what it will look like [01:08:45] is that by wiki name? [01:08:47] It does sometimes in my experience, not always though [01:09:43] Well, does my code look correct to get what I want? Cause I do feel like preview would display it correctly after many many clicks. [01:11:40] I mean the syntax looks correct yes, but well first of all I don't remember what color each hexcode is. And beside that CSS inheritance rules, and other things are WEIRD so extremely hard to predict exactly when you need to find another way to target something, or when you need to add !important etc. etc. [01:17:17] @gummiel So does this mean that .mw-body doesnt actually govern the part I wanna change? [01:17:21] The red it apparently the border I guess? [01:17:33] but the grey space right outside it isnt affected [01:17:53] And I suppose this wasnt working because the border was 0px around the body [01:25:37] Wait [01:25:43] Its not the border I think [01:25:45] padding? [01:46:33] yes its the padding [01:46:37] which apparently you cant color? [01:47:05] padding is like giving an element extra space [01:47:15] you can't exactly color space [01:51:56] I think I give up on this one lol [01:52:04] Im sure there are work arounds though [01:52:10] But I cant figure it out right now [01:52:47] Ill come back to it I guess [01:53:50] are you trying to color the container around mw body? [01:55:20] if it's outside of it, you need to look higher up in the hierarchy like the wrapper or block [02:05:00] Script is now done running, if anyone is still seeing problems, let me know. [02:13:26] honestly sure [02:13:46] whatever this purple part is [02:15:27] doesn't border accomplish that there? [02:15:52] apparently not [02:16:25] Apparently that space is not the border of mw.body [02:50:08] @chimecrime Any ideas on what I could do to color that area [02:52:24] can you link your wiki? <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> you can use the `/auth` command to verify so you can post links [02:52:36] do I use it in general? [02:52:43] yeah that works [02:52:46] oki doki [02:53:27] https://itbwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page @chimecrime [02:55:54] is this green area you want to have a diff color? [02:56:05] yes [03:06:56] [1/5] first thing is that it's not actually a thing, it's just padding (making extra space) on the mw-body. you can however replace it by removing the padding and replace it with a border of the same size [03:06:57] [2/5] ` padding: 0; [03:06:57] [3/5] border-color: red; [03:06:57] [4/5] border-width: 10px 40px; [03:06:57] [5/5] border-style: solid;` [03:06:58] Just give Chime some Time [03:06:59] Oh [03:09:26] I'll give it a shot [03:12:10] Uhh [03:12:23] also https://itbwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Cosmos-navigation [03:12:38] I suppose I have this in the wrong way? [03:15:27] [1/6] well "proper" form would look like [03:15:27] [2/6] `.class { [03:15:27] [3/6] stuff: [03:15:28] [4/6] stuff: [03:15:28] [5/6] }` [03:15:28] [6/6] but it will probably still work like that [03:15:40] It would still work huh? [03:15:57] I dunno Chime... [03:16:10] It doesnt seem like the padding went away [03:16:16] does anyone know how long it will take to have a custom domain ssl request fulfilled? [03:16:45] I will patiently wait, I was just curious about the average turnaround time. [03:18:58] it's still applying the border though yeah? just the padding still works? [03:19:35] Yeah it seems to be applying the border properly [03:19:39] But the padding is still there [03:19:46] And also for some reason the border isnt the right color [03:19:54] But I can fix that with trial and error [03:20:29] then try adding "important" to the padding like `padding: 0 !important;` sometimes it's needed to overwrite some default that was already set [03:20:46] Okay [03:21:23] nothing happened [03:21:48] also its warning me about the use of !important [03:21:56] yeah that's normal [03:22:32] Maybe padding needs to be 0px instead of 0? [03:22:55] add spaces in front of background and padding maybe? dunno but maybe that's tripping it <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [03:23:13] [1/2] Yeah most warnings can be ignored, as long as there is no straight up error. [03:23:14] [2/2] Warning are more about conventions and such, but due to how wiki software works in particualt there it can be hard to impossible to follow conventions 100% [03:23:39] <:huntershrug:765050973612671067> [03:23:49] spaces added and nothing [03:23:57] why is this padding so damn stubborn [03:24:01] Ohh yes it would it needs to know what unit you are giving it, or it might as well be in elephants πŸ˜› [03:24:33] ahh well px added [03:24:38] But nothing still <:PensiveMay:912511389443182593> [03:25:35] I just recently saw you shouldn't do that for 0 πŸ˜‚ css conventions are funny like that [03:26:23] did you try adding spaces? [03:26:40] yep [03:26:48] Thats why im including the code in each screenshot [03:26:59] also maybe publish the edit so we can see what happens <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [03:27:23] Changes Saved [03:27:30] Gotta wait a bit for effect tho right? [03:27:35] yeah [03:27:49] huh interesting, I mean human logically that does make sense... computer logically it usually doesn't though, hence why I assumed I geuss it would need a unit xD [03:28:04] yeah haha [03:28:32] Womp womp [03:30:30] @gummiel Do you have any input on this? [03:32:21] I'm not seeing any change <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> maybe you need to do `.mw-body {` ? [03:32:40] im already doing that tho [03:32:53] or do you seperatly for the padding? [03:33:32] was just seeing there's no space between body and { in the css page still [03:33:52] Ah [03:33:54] Ill try that [03:34:30] Nothing still [03:34:31] Not anything specific, I been slightly sick most of the day I think, and a bit low on sleep in general I think, so not really in a state of mind to go in and actually look at the specifics for CSS changes sorry. [03:34:42] No problem [03:34:43] :) [03:35:58] oh duh, I see it now [03:36:07] change .mw-body to #mw-content [03:36:51] ITS A # [03:36:57] I tried something like that awhile ago [03:37:05] I didnt think it had to be # [03:37:11] I figured it would be a . [03:37:27] duuuude I think I wouldve actually solved this like hours ago [03:37:54] it's also a different class haha, content is higher up then body [03:37:59] IMMEDIATLY WORKED [03:38:25] Thank you @chimecrime <:Puroheart:934524727500894229> [03:38:34] And Gumminel [03:38:45] I actually learned a decent bit from this [03:39:18] also, hope you feel better soon [03:39:25] ahh yeah `.` are for classes, `#` are for id's for css selectors, this is a great reference (and site in general) https://www.w3schools.com/cssref/css_selectors.php [03:40:11] Thanks, it's is mostly gone I think, and never been that bad, but diving into specifics of CSS really require a fully clear mind for me [03:43:53] Okay @chimecrime so why is my border a frothy white despite having the same hex code as the background (The background within #mw-content) [03:45:10] I'm getting a feeling that SSL certificate requests will take a while... [03:47:07] Did something catastrophic happen in July 2023? I found an ominous message about a mass exodus [03:48:05] I'm still seeing the previous body thing, so still waiting for it to update [03:49:09] Ah okay [03:53:38] here's what it looks like to me now <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [03:54:08] Weird [03:54:12] I did the cache thing [03:54:14] Also just now [03:54:22] also if you really just want it to be the same color as the background, you can remove the entire border part, the padding will be that color anyway [03:54:23] I added FF infront of the color and it worked [03:54:38] oh also why are the tables white for you? [03:56:05] tables are their own thing with a default white color [03:56:15] [1/2] There is a troll going around DMing etc people with doom and gloom talk, but there is not truth behind all if it (if it is what I think it is you are talking about, the face they mention fandom as the first "alternative" should be enough to make to question the validity, as that would truly be one of the WORST options, should you have a desire to migrate e [03:56:16] [2/2] lsewhere) [03:56:21] weird, to me they blend with the background [03:57:26] Oh no its not that they blended [03:57:33] It bc they just happened to be the same color [03:58:36] that's weird, because you didn't make a rule for them <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [03:58:55] code seems to be like this for me [03:59:01] I make all code be weird [03:59:03] No matter what [04:01:02] maybe it's the skin doing diff things depending on browser, I'm seeing a .wikitable:not([style*='background-color']) in the page [04:02:16] whats your browser? [04:05:10] chrome or edge, depending. the border looks weird on chrome too because of the transparency <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [04:05:32] Im on darkmode Firefox [04:05:52] does the darkmode affect page content? [04:06:30] Possibly [04:06:37] Its Dark Reader darkmode [04:07:18] yeah that is probably affecting what you see then <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [04:07:35] Yeah [04:07:52] Does this possibly mean I need to redesign things? [04:09:11] The answer is yes, at least in colors [04:09:17] yeah [04:09:27] should change the text to white too [04:10:11] yeah [04:10:12] I will [04:10:19] Just need to figure out how lmao [04:10:39] font-color is just color haha [04:10:56] `color: white;` would do it [04:10:58] I mean I figured it was that [04:11:03] Just wondering where to put it [04:11:51] [04:12:05] [04:13:47] [1/4] `* { [04:13:48] [2/4] color: white !important; [04:13:48] [3/4] }` [04:13:48] [4/4] would apply it to just about everything, tho the * (selects all) is slow so there might be a better way [04:14:09] Can I just plop that in Common.css? [04:14:14] yeah [04:14:17] okay [04:14:19] Ill just do that [04:14:33] Cause after the whole border debacle, im a bit tired [04:16:38] Okay actually white text like that is a horrible idea [04:16:47] It turns EVERYTHING to white text [04:16:52] Like seriously everything [04:16:57] Not even clicked on links are safe [04:17:04] or the comments box [04:17:05] well yeah * is litterally selecting everything πŸ˜‰ [04:17:22] I mean I guess I just didnt expect LITERALLY everything [04:17:23] and then you declare it important so it can't be overridden [04:17:55] <:monkaS:1157101771852894258> [04:18:12] So yeah VERY few things should be in * ever [04:18:17] if you remove the important, it will have less scope [04:18:35] Yeah Im removing it [04:18:43] And it that doesnt give the desired result [04:18:55] Ill just go thru and manually make text non white [04:25:23] [1/2] also if you want to change the tables, you can use [04:25:24] [2/2] `.wikitable >  > tr > th` and `.wikitable >  > tr > td` [04:25:32] th are header cells, td the regular ones [04:26:43] Thanks [04:26:51] Rn im trying to figure out how to replace the header with an image [04:28:03] like the site header? also, `background-image: url(full link here.png)` [04:28:39] site header? [04:28:45] Where is that specifically? [04:28:59] that grey part on top [04:29:11] because you could be meaning that or the cell headers, idk haha [04:29:45] Ahh [04:29:47] Nah not that [04:29:52] Actually now that I think about it [04:31:46] @chimecrime Is it possible to do this? the green box is to the green box and the red box is highlighting the background of the site. [04:33:26] yeah, looks like they set an image to the body and made the header transparent [04:34:21] Ahh so they just made the background one whole image? And then in photoshop or smth made the brown gradient to the photo on top? [04:36:28] You can do gradients in CSS, in fact you can do a LOT in CSS, a lot more than you probably ever should [04:37:32] is there a tutorial for setting up the basic cosmetics for the wiki mainly the background? [04:38:15] Not really, as it also depends on the specific skin [04:38:57] but yeah if you want to seehow far you CAN (but never should) take CSS there is something like this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY1PzHRu2dA [04:40:56] looks like they're using a different setup, but you're using cosmos right? in `Special:ManageWiki/settings` there are actually cosmos specific paramateres in the styling tab like background image [04:41:29] maybe `Cosmos Wiki Header Background Image` might be of use [04:42:30] Im using Cosmos to mimic Fandom [04:42:39] Yeah I did find that [04:42:39] applies to that too, you can set some things in setting if you're using cosmos, otherwise you need to learn/use CSS [04:42:53] Ohhh [04:42:56] Ill look into that [04:42:58] Thanks :) [04:52:04] wow that box-shadow animation is crazy πŸ˜… [04:52:29] Yeah it is insane [04:55:48] Also the one that straight up made a game... [05:03:04] So, I have a tiny little question. How long does it typically take to get approved for a Wiki? (assuming everything is filled in to the volunteer's liking). I'd like to schedule things around the potential opening of the wiki I requested, so an idea of how long that takes would be helpful! Just, like, from anyone. :p [05:03:45] it took less than a few houres for me [05:04:28] @chimecrime Is it possible to set the wiki site background to an image via commom.css? [05:04:50] And same for the cosmos header [05:05:04] yes [05:05:06] I went to styling to apply images [05:05:08] Didnt seem to work [05:05:19] So I think common.css would be easier [05:05:21] did you use a full link? [05:05:26] yep [05:05:29] Seems like that's on the faster side, then! Thanks for answering. [05:05:58] you need to go to that image and click on it again [05:06:16] the link should have "static.miraheze" in it [05:06:22] Ah [05:06:25] Yes I forgor [05:06:31] One sec Ill report back if it works [05:06:40] same thing applies to the css btw [05:07:02] depends on available atm wiki creator volunteers, usually won't take more than 2 hours [05:07:29] Worked on background [05:07:43] My transparent png for the header hasnt seemed to work [05:07:57] friendly reminder that there are no staff on Miraheze, everyone here are volunteering and all donations go to technical expenses [05:08:50] oh transparent, not sure if that would work <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [05:09:43] how do I do it lol [05:09:59] Should I just do it thru common.css? [05:12:46] that wouldn't solve it immediately, the best thing is really to inspect [05:13:05] Gotca [05:13:39] as example here, you can use the select tool in there to find the header [05:14:02] then there, looking at what affects it [05:14:52] then you can see for example, that the image is applied, but there is a background-color [05:15:45] Yeah [05:15:55] and then also a different one on .cosmos-header::before [05:16:12] so to make it truly transparent, you need to disable those [05:16:17] is there a way to set the backround using css? i got the cosmos extension would i need anything else? [05:16:35] So turning this off makes it transparent [05:16:53] oh no [05:17:04] Turning the z-index off makes it transparent [05:17:25] So how might I turn that off somewhere [05:17:54] does z-index: off; just work [05:17:56] z-index is a different thing [05:18:06] ? [05:18:59] it's like the order that things are shown, like foreground vs background [05:20:01] [1/8] you turn things off by overwriting them, in this case [05:20:01] [2/8] `.cosmos-header::before { [05:20:02] [3/8] background-image: none; [05:20:02] [4/8] } [05:20:02] [5/8] .cosmos-header { [05:20:02] [6/8] background-color: transparent; [05:20:03] [7/8] }` [05:20:03] [8/8] should be all you need [05:21:22] Okay it looked good in preview [05:21:29] Now I just need to wait for it to actually update [05:23:18] Doo doo doo <:Waiting:1141555418028585000> [05:23:55] Does it usually take like 3-5 minutes>? [05:24:33] so turning off the z-index might just hide it but it's still "there" as a thing [05:24:48] yeah something like that, sometimes it's faster, kinda random [05:24:58] Bit annyoing [05:25:07] Its fine [05:25:12] Im just impatient lol [05:25:18] There we go [05:25:23] https://itbwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [05:25:25] make your own css if you want instant results haha [05:25:28] The site is looking real good [05:27:53] yeah, it does look way better than before <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [05:30:12] why do the normal pages not get the backround <:notlikethis:1130637145674100757> [05:31:02] did you set it with css? [05:31:03] Thanks for the answer! All the volunteers must be resting from a hectic Halloween. I'll just check tomorrow morning. <:BlobhajThanksLove:1147007516895613030> [05:31:37] i dont know how [05:31:58] wiki link? [05:32:16] https://titanshell.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page this? [05:34:50] are you trying to set it to an image or color? [05:34:55] image [05:35:07] cosmos has styling settings tho [05:35:24] basic stuff can be done w/o css [05:35:25] yeah but it didnt work for all the pages [05:35:43] you sure it's not cache issue? [05:35:55] i can try [05:36:28] nope [05:36:55] the background shows on my end <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [05:37:02] <:LinkMoody:1058369632232275978> [05:37:15] @chimecrime One last thing before I go to sleep, how can I make the tables I use to contain my list of levels and entities, have a transparent background or color them to look like the background [05:37:42] do i need to restart my computer just to see any changes [05:38:00] this here @firezombie234 [05:38:38] ngl [05:38:45] My tired noob brain doesnt understand [05:39:14] Is it a global color that applies to all tables by putting it in common.css? [05:40:21] no those are the id's/classes/selectors what have you that you need [05:40:28] [1/3] * ctrl + f5 [05:40:29] [2/3] * purge button next to edit [05:40:29] [3/3] * manually clean cach of your browser [05:40:52] or just wait [05:41:10] in 10 min it 100% updates [05:41:14] <:lulzdonewithlife:580902593539342336> [05:41:34] I feel the same way [05:41:47] <:whenlifegetsatyou:828382013198958652> [05:42:53] non of thoes worked and im prety sure ive been at this for more than 10 minutes [05:43:22] Shift click the reload button πŸ”„ [05:43:26] That worked for me [05:43:28] After a few tries [05:43:47] we talk about cosmos settings or css here? [05:44:00] cosmos settings [05:44:08] i wopuld like to do it in css [05:46:00] [1/5] @firezombie234 [05:46:01] [2/5] `body .wikitable > tr > th, body .wikitable > tr > td, body .wikitable >  > tr > th, body .wikitable >  > tr > td { [05:46:01] [3/5] background-color: #1A0600 !important; [05:46:01] [4/5] color: white; [05:46:02] [5/5] }` [05:46:19] oh thank you [05:46:29] [1/2] you sure you inserted correct link in correct setting? [05:46:29] [2/2] it should start w/ `static` [05:47:24] <:tirednoah:1017863656630911047> yes like i said for me it shows up one the login/logout pages but nowhere else [05:48:01] <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [05:49:57] this is what i see basically [05:50:02] <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [05:50:15] <:lulzdonewithlife:580902593539342336> [05:50:37] why does the site hate me [05:51:48] wait, you're using a different skin [05:51:58] you have timeless there, not cosmos [05:52:16] @chimecrime Looking goooooooood [05:52:17] Tysm [05:53:21] fuck me [05:53:27] yay, np [05:53:33] yeah it workd thanks [05:53:40] now i can sleep [05:58:15] I fixed the top in my own!! [05:58:35] I can finally rest at 1:00AM [05:58:45] <:sleepymaroo2:821996716987383808> [05:59:14] nice! good job πŸ˜„ [06:08:36] congrats [09:17:10] Congratulations to everyone who solved something [10:57:39] Hey, How can i add a hat note that redirect to the main page for a topic ? [11:03:00] Are you wanting the page to just redirect automatically, or just wanting a note on the top of the page? Awing [11:05:04] no juste a note on the top of a section [11:06:55] Well you can do this two ways really, just simple writing text that is separated from the content on top of the section, or using a template [11:11:12] You can import Template:Mbox for a quick and easy β€œnotice” messagebox template from [[mh:dev:Template:Mbox]] , you would also need to import all the Transcluded templates (which can be found at https://dev.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Mbox&action=info). [11:11:12] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/dev:Template:Mbox [11:11:21] Err [11:11:39] The correct link is dev.miraheze.org/Template:Mbox [11:12:06] [1/2] or just make this template [11:12:06] [2/2] `: {{{1}}}` [11:12:06] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b1 [11:12:08] dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Mbox * [11:13:09] this is a ridiculous example lol sorry (can't delete messages on irc, so don't pay attention) [11:13:44] I really need to get better at manually writing links to pages on wikis lol you think after 6 years I’d have it down [14:40:13] how do i add an infobox? [14:47:23] [[User:Legroom/Infoboxes]] [14:47:23] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Legroom/Infoboxes [14:47:24] [15:47:06] oh, figured as much. Fandom is way worse lol [15:48:27] anybody who recommends fandom for one reason or another i automatically sideeye them [15:49:05] heard that. I'm a bureaucrat on Pikmin Fanon, we left it back in 2010 when it was called wikia. lol [15:50:11] god i remember knowing about wikia but nothing else about it [15:50:15] just knew it was a popular wiki host [15:51:03] it was where I got my wiki start... but once we joined NIWA, i never looked back on them. Everytime i visit a fandom wiki my eyes want to vomit [15:51:11] felt [15:51:16] everything just looks the same but with different colors [15:51:43] corporate suburbia wiki farm [15:53:21] that's why I am appreciating miraheze. A free wiki farm with no ads that lets you have your own custom domain and has built-in tech support? damn, that's a great deal [15:53:57] YEAH i never knew about it until PTwiki migrated from fandom and honestly compared to other popular hosting choices like wiki.gg i am absolutely a big fan of MH [15:54:10] no shade to them but wiki.gg to me is like fandom but slightly better [15:54:20] not inherently bad but there's definitely a huge fear there of getting bought out i think [15:54:40] plus they always publicly announce newly opened wikis which would make my shy ass very nervous lmao [15:54:51] oh man haha [16:19:43] Not 100% sure, but I do believe they are made by some of the people that ran one of the hosts that eventually did get bought up by fandom. So yeah I think intentions of them are good, but in the end the same could absolutely happen again [16:23:25] yeah [16:23:30] that's how i mainly feel about it [16:29:03] I have a question: How do you hide the title of the main page as seen here? [16:31:15] ^ answered yesterday [19:22:41] [1/2] man [19:22:41] [2/2] the realization that I need to rework templates on my first mira wiki, after reworking all templates of my new migrated wiki [20:19:14] Does the Miraheze logo and the site name (the bit that says "miraheze") appear back-to-front on Contribs pages for anyone else? [20:37:39] How’s everyone doing? [20:39:54] just struggling to get my custom css to work [20:40:00] on Coffee wiki [20:44:00] <:blobwave:618588099294920723> [20:53:04] what's involved in changing my site name? [20:54:28] wdym by site name [20:54:36] URL, just visible title [20:54:53] visible title [20:55:05] i think url might be too much of a hassle [20:55:23] core setting admin menu [20:55:32] sounds good [20:55:41] wiki name, the second setting [20:56:24] what you get in url is defined by data base name, which is shown in the first setting, but can be changed only by mira sysadmins [21:39:57] What volunteer role could I apply for that would help clear up some of the phab tasks? <:thonk:898679372075139132> [22:21:50] SRE [22:23:34] _fills in application_ [22:27:38] how do you even apply for that, is the talk page mentioned on the vacancies page monitored? There's a few requests on there without a reply. [22:27:57] Phab I think [22:28:08] With @orduin really [22:28:16] And @zppix or @.labster [22:28:37] Void is the only Ltd person doing anything [22:28:37] Access request is on Phabricator [22:28:52] Zppix/labster need to know you'll be on SRE when they take over [22:29:06] Is the access request the application, Agent? [22:29:23] Yes [22:29:25] yep [22:29:28] Perfecto [22:29:50] You have my endorsement [22:30:17] πŸ™‚ I'll fill the form in monentarily [22:30:25] Yay! [22:32:18] wooo [22:32:54] holy shit based?????????? [22:33:02] Pardon? [22:33:50] holy based ! [22:33:59] i'd offer to help more but i am busy as it is πŸ’₯ [22:34:20] sorry, im used to the slang of different communities πŸ˜… i just mean u very cool person πŸ‘ [22:34:45] yeah it's online english slang for "that is so cool" basically [22:36:03] yea [22:36:12] i had to same reaction when i first learned ngl lol [22:37:01] [1/2] > Indicating emphatic approval of a statement or opinion. [22:37:01] [2/2] > Admirable; praiseworthy [22:40:03] It's a stupid word [22:40:28] I'm just about young enough based has been head of but isn't in my vocab [22:41:08] Most likely yes [22:51:39] [1/4] @chimecrime Is it possible to apply this to images with frames/captions? body .wikitable > tr > th, body .wikitable > tr > td, body .wikitable >  > tr > th, body .wikitable >  > tr > td { [22:51:40] [2/4] background-color: #1A0600 !important; [22:51:40] [3/4] color: white; [22:51:40] [4/4] } [22:51:44] Just changing the wiki table name [22:53:19] yeah, you'd have to do something like figcaption img for the selector part [22:54:32] or wait just the figcaption maybe since you're after the text haha [22:55:06] Well you know the issue with my tables being white, that you fixed with the code? Same thing but for image frames/caption boxes [22:55:15] Not the text itself [22:58:45] @firezombie234 there's also figure, we have this example [22:59:05] Oh thanks [23:02:24] guys is it morally acceptable to use tables as "infoboxes"? [23:03:11] Yes, infoboxes generally are complex tables if they're not coded in Lua or PI. [23:03:35] I remember before PI was a thing back in like 2012 when most on Fandom used tables (heavily customised) as infoboxes. [23:03:54] oh [23:04:03] thanks for that [23:04:12] i thought they were like hated on [23:04:16] Its what Im doing [23:04:48] I wouldn't necessarily say hated on; I personally wouldn't use them just because using PI is easier, but it's definitely an option. [23:05:10] oh alright, thanks for the answer [23:05:42] use whatever makes you comfortable πŸ™‚ [23:06:15] I mean it's not hated on but its definently an easier alternative if you dont understand how to work infoboxes [23:06:25] (like me) [23:06:33] @originalauthority (The short discussion made me think) Is it possible to round the edges of tables? [23:06:58] Yes! Just apply a border-radius! [23:07:08] Nice!! [23:07:11] Def doing that then [23:07:25] Cause I dont understand infoboxes at all :D [23:07:45] How would I go about coloring one row of a specific table? [23:08:25] usually i'd do it one cell by one [23:08:32] Eh that works too [23:08:33] if you're editing it inline, just add the styling to that specific row [23:08:47] but if you're doing it by css, then it's a little more difficult. [23:09:35] you could add a class to that specific row, or use nth-child in css, but that would assume that the infobox (if it is a table) has the exact same amount of rows everytime. [23:09:43] speaking of infoboxed does anybody know how to move them to the right side of the article [23:09:53] thats real easy [23:10:06] `float: right` πŸ™‚ [23:10:27] relevant to me as well lol [23:10:51] [1/2] or if its a table its [23:10:51] [2/2] ``` align="right" ``` [23:11:56] This isnt seeming to affect my image with a caption [23:12:09] I feel like that doesn't usually work on tables <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [23:12:26] should do. [23:12:41] im who like using visual editor 😭 [23:12:41] because every cell has their own border so it ends up not working (border-collapse) or looking weird [23:13:01] i use both visual and source [23:13:55] just go in the editor and next to the class="wikitable" just add align="right" [23:14:50] okay after refreshing like 30 times it worked [23:15:04] Thats always funny to me [23:15:13] css do be like that [23:16:01] Ahh shit [23:16:20] It appears I accidentally deleted the table code to make it transparent bg [23:16:45] Ill find it in the server im sure [23:16:56] you can revert the edit and add the figure thing again [23:17:12] or the other way around, find the table thing in the previous edit and copy it haha [23:17:34] can see previous stuff in page history [23:18:20] Oh nice, I found it though so its fine, but thats good to know for the future [23:18:29] yeah exactly <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [23:18:48] My brain is taking so many notes when I talk to you [23:18:53] <:peepoNotes:1095178813253627904> [23:39:18] Is it possible to insert just a audio clip that looks like this? [23:44:13] I guess you could probably apply a color with css? [23:45:21] Well I dont mind the color (yet) [23:45:39] Just is it possible to insert an audio clip (mp3) and not a video. [23:45:45] And will it look like above [23:48:23] that part at least, yeah [23:49:56] I haven't really worked with audio like that, @theoneandonlylegroom would probably know more since they have audio bits in one of their wiki's [23:51:58] this is how i feel every time i talk to mediawiki nerds<:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [23:57:32] They are the reason I am here and hooked into MW 🫑