[00:08:11] Uhh Ill show you mine [00:08:13] One second [00:12:37] This is after inserting [00:12:43] this is before inserting [00:14:56] can you link to the template for me ? [00:15:48] Sure [00:15:55] https://itbwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:EntityInfobox4 [00:16:05] Maybe Im just not building it right? [00:18:15] i believe the formatting is wrong..? from what i know infobox template source looks more like this [00:18:27] Hmmm [00:18:30] I mean that is weird [00:18:42] Im just using Special:InfoboxBuilder though [00:18:50] It would be weird for it to be wrong no? [00:19:17] Also are you able to edit that source? [00:28:13] For templates to work with VE you need to add templatedata to it, otherwise that is the result you get [00:28:37] Ugh I thought I did though? [00:28:45] Where do I do that [00:29:34] Because in the Label part then the {{{Data1}}} [00:29:34] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bData1 [00:29:42] I thought I would fill that in on a page [00:30:06] Well its some tags with the info in the templates source. I am not entirely sure on the specifics tbh, since I don't use VE at all in the first place [00:31:50] and no the {{{data}}} stuff is just the functional parameters, for it to work with VE you need to add a ton more somewhere basically telling it what kind of stuff are allowed for each parameter, if they are required or optional parameter and more. adding VE support to templates is probably easily 3-4 times as much work, as making the template itself in many cases [00:31:50] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bdata [00:32:02] Not wrong, but not beautified [00:32:21] Aka making them human-readable [00:32:31] ah got it, i wrote mine by hand instead of using templatebuilder [00:32:35] So basically forget the template builder [00:33:05] Cause it seems like it just sucks too much to be useable [00:33:51] well the infobox builder is fine, to make a basic infobox on the functional part, but it is NOT built to adding in VE support or a more advanced stuff, you will have to add that after yourself [00:34:23] Okay okay [00:34:24] So [00:34:32] I could use the infobox builder to get started [00:34:42] But import it to a page using Source Editing? [00:35:05] yes [00:35:24] Okay [00:37:17] :p [00:37:19] Thanks [00:37:30] Got it basically immediately [00:37:35] Now to make it look nice [00:42:48] Can I make the image smaller within the parameters? [00:51:51] How can I remove the recent changes list on the right side of my pages, its taking up space I need. [00:56:09] personally i would love the themetoggler extension from mediawiki [04:27:31] how would I go about generating a DNS record for my custom domain wiki [04:27:42] this is specifically for an email service [04:27:52] I want an email account tied to my domain [04:29:10] is this even doable? [05:10:48] in additional settings -> styling, hide cosmos rail or something like that [05:11:48] can you rename a user on miraheze? [05:16:08] [1/4] extension ContactPage [05:16:09] [2/4] then you need to create a separate account w/ that special email being tied to it [05:16:09] [3/4] then go to additional settings -> notification, and set that user in the first setting [05:16:09] [4/4] but here's the problem - for some reason you can link to Contact page only manually in text area, if you want to have it, say, in footer, you'll need to mod skin a bit [05:16:15] yes [05:25:39] I meant you can request to rename yourself, you can't do that by yourself or w/ other users [05:28:04] [[Special:GlobalRenameRequest]] [05:28:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:GlobalRenameRequest [05:28:05] [05:28:48] [1/2] to change email [05:28:48] [2/2] [[Special:ChangeEmail]] [05:28:48] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ChangeEmail [05:28:49] [05:30:19] Wth is this, it literally just appeared out of nowhere [05:35:13] what exactly [05:35:38] you can hide table of contents by adding `NOTOC` anywhere in the code [05:35:50] Thank you! [05:35:53] if you mean that long header - you something else to format it [05:36:04] for example `;` [05:36:24] Nope, you got it right the first time! [05:36:24] `; The following ...` [05:49:11] nevermind. I am getting an email for my other domain [05:50:07] the contactpage doesn't resolve it? [05:57:52] I am not sure, but the reason I went to the lengths of getting the email for the other domain is because of wanting to centralize everything under my new brand [05:58:08] I don't need two emails for both domains I own [06:00:14] I'm trying to get my name changed to Zoadra in Miraheze anyways [06:00:48] And that will be reflected in the email, so that the email is specific to me, not the wiki [06:50:41] coming here to ask how i get some of these custom navigation dropdowns here on the Cosmos skin [06:56:20] `MediaWiki:Cosmos-navigation` [06:56:59] kthx [07:03:15] macfan - thank you [07:03:54] from a quick glances some files still appear to be broken tho, but don't seem to be many, I'll try to upload them manually [07:20:41] I enabled the Lingo parser hook, but it doesn't seem like it's working [07:20:55] i checked my wiki's `Special:Version` page, but it's not there at all [07:21:19] there also seem to be some... other formatting issues [07:22:01] [1/2] - Table of Contents not showing all headings or sub-headings [07:22:01] [2/2] - Table overlapping with with right-page URLs [07:22:49] I do not have `newsletter` enabled [07:23:09] when was your wiki created? the toc issue took place on wikis before MediaWiki 1.40 update, requires empty edit or cache purge [07:23:20] i'll check [07:24:02] the version seems to be up-to-date [07:24:07] the wiki was created a few months ago maybe [07:24:08] as for overlapping I'm not sure, if you made some Vector-2022.css modifications you'll need to fix them [07:24:12] i'm not sure where to check its age though [07:24:19] I don't think I did [07:24:38] all wikis on Miraheze are on 1.40, update occurred on 22th [07:24:55] try to make an empty edit on any page w/ toc issue [07:25:55] it seems to just be `Special:Version` [07:25:57] other pages are fine [07:26:05] although that page isn't editable... [07:26:10] not like it matters much anywya [07:26:21] i'm more worried about this [07:26:51] ah, that's beyond our or your control yes, it's a special page [07:27:07] sadly I haven't worked w/ Lingo [07:27:36] how would I check whether it works for Miraheze or not? [07:27:51] Check on any other wiki [07:28:12] have you followed usage documentation on mediawiki.org? [07:28:16] afaik, there's only one `LocalSettings.php` for all Miraheze wikis (shared) [07:28:25] Yes [07:28:27] question is which one [07:28:43] For lingo, not sure. For the special:Version issue, any [07:28:50] check additional settings admin menu for what would be in localsettings.php [07:29:04] For the special:version issue, please file an upstream task and tag it with #miraheze-linked [07:31:10] rhinos, while you're here - advice on this https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1170960179844612137 ? [07:32:24] what do I check? [07:32:40] i don't see any extension-specific stuff yet [07:33:29] If you've enabled an extension Special:ManageWiki/ should show the ext specific settings I believe [07:34:11] having a look... [07:35:51] i'm not seeing any pages like that [07:36:50] Just type the URL [07:36:55] there's nothing after any of these either (e.g. `Special:ManageWiki/settings/...`) [07:37:03] I don't believe they do show up [07:37:20] But they're used to be a way to get extension specific settings on a single page [07:37:28] <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [07:37:37] Try /settings/Lingo [07:37:48] It's a long while since I've done it [07:37:55] also just takes me to the `settings` page [07:38:27] Lingo has no settings available in ManageWiki [07:38:33] I just checked the config [07:38:41] Also it's disabled [07:39:17] https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/master/LocalSettings.php#L5967 [07:39:21] why 💀 [07:40:06] it doesn't look like the kind of thing that'd be malicious or disfunctional [07:40:17] or maybe not... [07:40:31] if it's built for "MediaWiki LTS releases only" [07:40:35] Didn't work in 1.39 [07:40:50] Apparently it works in 1.40 though [07:41:02] So the answer is no one has enabled it again yet [07:42:05] https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T10901 [07:42:14] It was broken for a while [07:43:29] Who would be asked to enable it? [07:44:37] SRE [07:44:49] But anyone can suggest the edit to LocalSettings.php [07:45:31] Could you do me a favour and request that edit on GitHub <:nomChocoStrawberry:938647184973365318> [07:45:40] me and everyone else who wants to use Lingo [07:48:45] No, I'm on way into work. Will have to wait until this evening for me to look. [07:54:20] in that case, if anyone else sees this, please consider [07:54:25] to re-enable the Lingo extension [07:54:35] thanks for your help anyway [08:15:23] Can i change the request after it has been sent, because i didnt know the format in the subdomain part and inputted only the front part instead of the entire subdomain [08:55:52] You just need that, sinces the front part is also going to be your wiki's database name with -wiki behind that [08:56:43] Ok thanks [08:56:56] i.e: my subdomain was `lhmn.miraheze.org`, so the db name is going to be `lhmnwiki` [09:34:31] im using the Comments extension, and i need to know if there is an easier way to add text to every wiki page. editing all pages to add would take a long time. [09:48:46] there are 3 comments extension [09:49:30] I believe CommentStreams is the one you need [09:49:55] [[mw:Extension:CommentStreams]] [09:49:56] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CommentStreams [09:49:56] [09:49:58] what if i prefer comments over commentstream [09:50:09] then you do things manually [09:50:24] well shucks [09:50:33] if you're bothered by visuals, they can be modified via CSS [09:50:39] oh [09:50:40] nice [09:50:58] those words make my brain happy [10:20:33] is there any way to remove this button? [10:52:32] you can't disable talk pages but can hide the button via CSS [10:52:47] how would i hide it [10:52:58] or more specifically [10:53:10] where do i have to go to hide it [10:55:01] first you need to poke around the page w/ browser's element inspector (web tools), find the right class/id [10:55:12] then you add it to wiki's CSS [10:55:48] usually MediaWiki:Common.css page, but I feel like Cosmos skin might use something different from default MediaWiki element [10:56:03] skin specific CSS page would be MediaWiki:Cosmos.css [11:08:00] does anyone know if the PortableInfobox extension is working? [11:08:17] it's showing up on my `Special:Version` page, but the `` tags aren't being recognised [11:08:25] and `Special:InfoboxBuilder` is stuck loading [11:12:48] [1/2] after migration from fandom you'll need to make an edit on infobox templates page, then kick the cache on normal pages which use them [11:12:48] [2/2] seems like removing ` type="..."` from infobox tag should dix the issue [11:13:41] [1/2] as for builder it has issues on Firefox, try to refresh first [11:13:42] [2/2] if it's still stuck, then try another browser [11:13:58] [1/22] well, this is the code i'm using to test [11:13:59] [2/22] ```html [11:13:59] [3/22] [11:13:59] [4/22] [11:14:00] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [5/22] <data source="image"> [11:14:00] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [6/22] <format><div class="inf-image" style="background:{{{imagebg|}}}">{{{image}}}/div/format [11:14:00] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bimagebg [11:14:00] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [7/22] /data [11:14:01] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [8/22] <data source="altname"><label>Other Names/label/data [11:14:01] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [9/22] <data source="ja_kanji"> [11:14:01] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [10/22] <label>Japanese Name/label [11:14:01] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [11/22] <format><span lang="ja" style="font-family:Meiryo" class="t_nihongo_kanji">{{{ja_kanji}}}/span/format [11:14:01] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bja_kanji [11:14:02] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [12/22] /data [11:14:02] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [13/22] <data source="ja_romaji"><label>[[Wikipedia:Hepburn romanization|Romanized]] Name/label<format>''{{{ja_romaji}}}''/format/data [11:14:02] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bja_romaji https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Hepburn_romanization [11:14:03] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [14/22] <data source="foundation"><label>Founded/label/data [11:14:03] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [15/22] <data source="industry"><label>Industry/label/data [11:14:04] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [16/22] <data source="location"><label>Headquarters/label/data [11:14:04] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [17/22] <data source="phone"><label>Phone Number/label/data [11:14:05] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [18/22] <data source="keypeople"><label>Key People/label/data [11:14:05] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [19/22] <data source="affiliate"><label>Affiliates/label/data [11:14:06] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [20/22] <data source="site"><label>Website/label/data [11:14:06] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [21/22] /infobox [11:14:07] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [22/22] ``` [11:14:08] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> and i'm on Opera GX, a Chromium browser [11:14:15] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> huh there's theme [11:14:27] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> remove theme portion then [11:14:30] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> alr [11:14:52] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> oh cool that worked [11:14:55] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> why lol? [11:15:05] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> is `theme` a CSS-determined thing or something [11:15:19] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> don't ask me, ain't the one who ported this extension lol [11:15:43] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to kojobailey> yes, but from my experience TemplateStyles subpages do this work better [11:15:59] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] more on infoboxes here [11:16:00] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] [[User:Legroom/Infoboxes]] [11:16:00] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Legroom/Infoboxes [11:16:00] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Legroom/Infoboxes> [11:23:02] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> oh thank you [11:23:49] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> i like PortableInfobox since that's just straight up what i'm used to [11:23:55] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> wikis i've edited in the past use the extension too [11:25:03] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> understandable [11:25:22] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> they're just a bit finicky to custom style [11:25:27] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> but still possible [11:40:27] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to avengium> do you know what happened with template miraheze? [11:43:58] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix, replying to avengium> Template wiki merged with devwiki [11:44:25] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [1/2] and the template wikinfo still exists or not? [11:44:26] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [2/2] I couldn't find it [11:45:43] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> I am not sure [11:46:38] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> It uses to be there, on the quoted comment link [11:57:35] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> did you not imported/copied it to your wiki? [12:01:31] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> no, i didn't import it. I transcluded [12:02:00] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> but is on other wiki. I will copy it then [12:08:42] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] an unresolved support request w/ an error, anyone able to track/help? [12:08:42] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1170535214943047690 [12:33:45] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> is for Extension popup and pagepreview. Some part of that is a gadget iirc [13:07:37] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I remember Rhinos saying to not transclude anything crosswiki, like from dev or login [13:24:39] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> good. I fixed the thing with the template. Thanks [13:28:49] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> @theoneandonlylegroom how do you get Legacy Vector? [13:29:19] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> oh wait is it just "vector" [13:30:50] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> ok yeah it is [13:31:51] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> how does someone get it looking this much better though [13:32:23] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> or like this, for peak [13:35:34] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> a lot of wikis seem to use legacy vector, but with custom modifications [13:36:20] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> is it possible to learn this power? [13:38:02] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> Hello everyone [13:39:28] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> @everyone I make Miraheze wiki, but idk how to make it's template. What is template for a conflict? [13:40:30] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> @nibblypup help me [13:40:45] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> @chiogaming2007 how [13:41:18] <MirahezeRelay> <chiogaming2007, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> Request in #support [13:46:25] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> What sort of templates are you looking to make? [13:46:39] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation, replying to platyellow> Template:Country and Template:Conflict [13:48:09] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_country - I assume an infobox similar to the one shown here for Template:Country? [13:48:26] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation, replying to platyellow> I do that but it's not showing [13:49:54] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> @platyellow [13:50:54] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> dude stop pinging everyone [13:51:46] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to kojobailey> [1/3] short answer - CSS [13:51:46] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to kojobailey> [2/3] almost anything is possible w/ CSS [13:51:46] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to kojobailey> [3/3] as for how to make old Vector default skin: Manage this wiki's additional settings -> Styling [13:52:47] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> The template is quite full as far as Modules and other templates it uses, so you'll need to import these also [13:53:18] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation, replying to platyellow> how [13:54:32] <MirahezeRelay> <han.0000> Wikipedia infoboxes are overwngineered to fuck and very difficult to maintain. It's better to use portable infoboxes to do it yourself. Check https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Legroom/Infoboxes [13:56:01] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> So below the edit box for example you'll have templates and modules down here, if you want to use this exact template as opposed to one you've created yourself then you'll need to start looking at these other templates. [13:56:06] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> So below the edit box for example you'll have templates and modules down here, if you want to use this exact template as opposed to one you've created yourself then you'll need to start looking at these other templates. [13:57:05] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation, replying to platyellow> what is that page [13:57:08] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> i would like to see it [13:57:58] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> [1/2] en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Infobox_country&action=edit [13:57:58] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> [2/2] Its just below the edit box. But it will tell you pretty much everything the template is using. [13:58:03] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> this is gonna be very confusing [13:58:50] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> eh [13:59:58] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow> I would recommend trying to forge on with your own templates, that kind of template is engineered way above my skill level, so trying to break it down for your use might be a bit difficult. [14:02:08] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> @platyellow why my template is not fucking showing [14:02:08] <MirahezeRelay> <Dyno> @thescrtaccountconfederation Watch your language. [14:03:06] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> Its a red link so looks like it isn't created on your wiki. [14:04:12] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow> Just because I type {{4Team-RoundRobin}} on my wiki doesn't mean its been locally imported even though it might be present on Wikipedia. [14:04:12] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:4Team-RoundRobin [14:04:14] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/4Team-RoundRobin?action=edit&redlink=1> [14:05:36] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> @platyellow look at it [14:09:40] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> It looks like you've typed {{Infobox country}} in the template space, hence the loop. [14:09:40] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_country [14:09:40] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> urmm can you help me pls [14:09:40] <MirahezeRelay> <weesee> Goddammit I just got a background fetch error [14:09:40] <MirahezeRelay> <weesee> And I was working on the main page! [14:09:40] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> my website: fwwiki.miraheze.org [14:09:40] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> so if CSS is the key, how do I wield it? [14:09:41] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> are there any examples i can check out [14:09:41] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> or like, where can I find examples from other wikis [14:09:42] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow> I'm at work, so not presently available to carve out a large template into a Wiki. [14:09:42] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> ... [14:09:43] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> o [14:09:44] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> WTH? [14:09:44] <MirahezeRelay> <weesee> Seems like it's site-wide [14:09:45] <MirahezeRelay> <holocraft, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> Same tho [14:09:45] <MirahezeRelay> <holocraft> On different wiki [14:09:46] <MirahezeRelay> <weesee> Suppose next time I'll have to save more often 😅 [14:09:46] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> yeah happened to me too [14:09:47] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> luckily it wasn't that much [14:09:47] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> #IHATEMIRAHEZE [14:09:56] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> ayou what happened?? [14:10:01] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow> I've just spent like 20 mins trying to help you, the fuck [14:10:01] <MirahezeRelay> <Dyno> @platyellow Watch your language. [14:10:13] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> watch your language [14:10:33] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation, replying to kojobailey> Miraheze is lying to us [14:10:47] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> what is it with servers having restrictions against "cuss words" without explictly saying you can't use cuss words [14:10:53] <MirahezeRelay> <holocraft> Maybe the volunteers will fix that [14:10:58] <MirahezeRelay> <holocraft> Hopefully [14:11:02] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> so is Miraheze like [14:11:07] <MirahezeRelay> <weesee> The volunteers will definitely fix it [14:11:08] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to kojobailey> this is a thing of past time, and luckily behind [14:11:08] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow> Alright, I'm out of this convo [14:11:25] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> I wanted to use Miraheze because of actions today and my fictional stuff but idk how to use it [14:11:31] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> bad timing [14:11:32] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> guys slow down please I think discord is having issues [14:11:47] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> Also, the 503 thing was the most terrible thing in the MediaWiki history [14:11:49] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> ok it's back up [14:12:02] <MirahezeRelay> <weesee> It's fixed [14:12:06] <MirahezeRelay> <weesee> And my work is still here! [14:12:10] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> mine isn't [14:12:17] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> you already made a support thread please keep your questions in there, general chat moves too quickly to really help your case [14:12:19] <MirahezeRelay> <holocraft, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> You can save it on your note first, and if miraheze can be accessed again, paste that [14:12:42] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey, replying to kojobailey> can anyone answer this please [14:12:51] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation, replying to holocraft> k [14:12:54] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> i just need some quick directions; no need for a whole forum post [14:13:05] <MirahezeRelay> <holocraft> Now, it fixed [14:13:07] <MirahezeRelay> <weesee> Do you know what CSS is [14:13:10] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> yes [14:13:12] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> i've used it before [14:13:18] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> i just don't know where to find it on MediaWiki lol [14:13:20] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to kojobailey> go to any wiki's MediaWiki:Common.css or MediaWiki:Vector.css [14:13:25] <MirahezeRelay> <weesee> This [14:13:29] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> alr gotcha [14:13:29] <MirahezeRelay> <weesee> Common.css mostly though [14:13:30] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> thanks [14:13:34] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> i hate 503 [14:13:44] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> MAMPUS! [14:13:47] <MirahezeRelay> <weesee> Vector.css is a skin specific CSS page, so unless you know what the skin looks like [14:14:20] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> well, i plan to use the same skin as the wikis i'm interested in taking inspiration from [14:14:27] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> legacy vector or whatever [14:14:31] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> Miraheze is just like Israhell [14:14:36] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> Stupid [14:14:42] <MirahezeRelay> <weesee> You can also test CSS on your personal user common.css page [14:14:47] <MirahezeRelay> <holocraft> So, where the template source that can to be used for miraheze wikis other than wikipedia? [14:14:48] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> [1/3] dude [14:14:48] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> [2/3] slow down [14:14:48] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> [3/3] stop cussing [14:15:00] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow> Ok can someone get rid of him [14:15:01] <MirahezeRelay> <holocraft, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> It was fixed on mockupedia tho [14:15:13] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> if Miraheze can stop their ||fucking|| 503 (666) error [14:15:13] <MirahezeRelay> <Dyno> @thescrtaccountconfederation Watch your language. [14:15:27] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> is swearing against the rules or not [14:15:32] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> yes [14:15:35] <MirahezeRelay> <holocraft> @platyellow bisa kau diam dan jangan buat gaduh? [14:15:42] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> but remember the FOS! [14:16:04] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to holocraft> dev.miraheze supposed to be, but I'd say better check other established wikis [14:16:07] <MirahezeRelay> <weesee> I can understand the frustration of a new user experiencing server errors without warning. These issues come up but they aren't that common. You just happened to get unlucky, as did I [14:16:14] <MirahezeRelay> <holocraft, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Ah, ok [14:16:20] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> i hope they're not common hehe [14:16:22] <MirahezeRelay> <weesee> So please stop freaking out. It's getting resolved as of now. My wiki is already back up [14:16:31] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> how do i become a verified wiki user btw [14:16:41] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> just refresh the page in case 503 [14:16:50] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to kojobailey> /auth w/ bot [14:16:59] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> i hate 503 [14:17:02] <MirahezeRelay> <notfireman> hi [14:17:07] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation, replying to notfireman> hi [14:17:15] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> oh right [14:17:25] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> it wants me to log in with Wikipedia though [14:17:31] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> oh wait nvm [14:17:33] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> that was the other server [14:18:44] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> everyone help me [14:18:46] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> how?? [14:18:56] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> question: what are interwiki requests? [14:19:16] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> why are you editing on mobile though [14:19:28] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation, replying to kojobailey> why [14:19:28] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> [1/3] stop doing this, *please" [14:19:28] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> [2/3] slow down [14:19:29] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> [3/3] nobody gets paid here, we are volunteering, we help people when we can [14:19:36] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> ... [14:19:45] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you made support request [14:19:50] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> k [14:19:52] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> let's go there [14:20:00] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> where [14:21:00] <MirahezeRelay> <holocraft, replying to thescrtaccountconfederation> #support here [14:21:06] <MirahezeRelay> <thescrtaccountconfederation> o [14:26:18] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to kojobailey> [1/5] interwiki prefixes let you make external links easily [14:26:18] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to kojobailey> [2/5] like `w:` to Wikipedia, `mw:` to MediaWiki [14:26:18] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to kojobailey> [3/5] on fandom it's language links [14:26:19] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to kojobailey> [4/5] etc [14:26:19] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to kojobailey> [5/5] interwiki prefixes can be custom per wiki, so on Miraheze you should request interwiki admins to add them to your wiki (safety concerns) [14:27:10] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> oooh [14:27:14] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> can't you just do that anyway [14:27:35] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> wdym? [14:27:36] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> like a `Template:W` to link to Wikipedia pages (e.g. `{{W|Hirohiko Araki}}`) [14:27:36] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:W [14:27:46] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> Wikipedia is enabled by default [14:28:00] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> but you can still link to other wikis with a template [14:28:21] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> this works exactly without template [14:28:36] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] like this [14:28:36] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] [[mw:Help:Links]] [14:28:36] <wm-bot> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Links [14:28:36] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Links> [14:28:43] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> i guess that's cool [14:28:53] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> although tbh i prefer having a template anyway [14:28:56] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> since it's more customisable [14:29:10] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> it's useless if you ask me [14:29:19] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> unless you add colors etc [14:29:34] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1127578338425311242.webp?size=48&name=shrug%7E1&quality=lossless [15:39:54] <MirahezeRelay> <retribyte, replying to kojobailey> You’re welcome to take from our stylesheet, and if you need help I’m happy to offer it, I’ve been slowly building ours for a couple months and it was challenging at first [15:40:19] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> Thank you, that'd be much appreciated [16:16:41] <MirahezeRelay> <trigjegman, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> even then you can (with site css) stylize external links through Interwiki [16:19:49] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> exactly [16:20:10] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you can even hide the external link icon [16:25:29] <MirahezeRelay> <retribyte> I can see it being useful if you have a lot of stylization and you’d rather wrap the HTML elements into a template. [16:25:33] <MirahezeRelay> <retribyte> Even small templates can be useful. [16:26:35] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> man, I'm so annoyed by gallery changes in 1.40 [16:26:46] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> images didn't looked this tiny [16:26:55] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I have to add more CSS [16:27:14] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> or make a template w/ presets settings at this point [17:04:53] <MirahezeRelay> <jph2> [1/3] @Wiki Creators [17:04:53] <MirahezeRelay> <jph2> [2/3] Can one of y'all take a look at the following request when you get a chance? I've asked them to better explain their intended scope and twice they've reopened the request without adding any clarification. Maybe I'm setting the bar to high? [17:04:53] <MirahezeRelay> <jph2> [3/3] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/36986 [17:06:02] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> we already had absurdopedia tho? [17:06:16] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> or dramatics [17:06:30] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you know which ones Iean [17:11:53] <MirahezeRelay> <jph2> absurdopedia is long deleted but dramatica is up but appears to be subject to vandalism [17:21:53] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> I mean the person clearly have an issue with how to behave in general, regardless of what their wiki would be like at this point. So imo if anything there should be even bigger scrutiny than normal for that reason. [17:58:46] <MirahezeRelay> <firezombie234, replying to jph2> Dude, are they like 8 or smth [17:58:47] <MirahezeRelay> <firezombie234> Geez [17:58:53] <MirahezeRelay> <firezombie234> The comments are so rude [18:03:40] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> how to edit a PortableInfobox [18:04:57] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> i know you can't use `style=` with HTML tags for it [18:05:04] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> but does it work with CSS or something> [18:07:52] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [1/2] this maybe? [18:07:52] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [2/2] https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Infoboxes/CSS [18:21:45] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [1/7] i've now tried [18:21:45] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [2/7] ```css [18:21:46] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [3/7] .portable-infobox { [18:21:46] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [4/7] (stuff) [18:21:46] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [5/7] } [18:21:46] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [6/7] ``` [18:21:47] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [7/7] but it doesn't seem to be making any changes [18:22:15] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to kojobailey> Yeah you need to select classes [18:22:28] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> oh so classes are necessary [18:22:33] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Yea [18:22:38] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Lemme get my wiki css [18:22:39] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> what's the purpose of just `.portable-infobox` in that case? [18:22:49] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> i've noticed that other wikis have that [18:22:53] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Uh not sure just general overarching maybe [18:23:06] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> but ig said overarching still requires a class to be active [18:23:19] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> https://nyctocosm.Miraheze.org/wiki/Mediawiki:Common.css [18:23:34] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> having a looksie... [18:23:48] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> alr i'll try a class [18:24:15] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [1/4] do i just do [18:24:15] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [2/4] ```css [18:24:15] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [3/4] .portable-infobox.class { } [18:24:16] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [4/4] ``` [18:24:26] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> and then `class` is the class name [18:24:57] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to kojobailey> Should [18:25:03] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Im not very good at css ngl [18:25:20] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Pro tip use inspect elements to view the classes of the infobox [18:25:35] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> true [18:26:53] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> oh wait it's `type=`, not `class=` [18:27:02] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Ag [18:27:04] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Ah [18:27:09] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> There’s type and theme actually [18:27:15] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> ok yeah that worked [18:27:16] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Literally the same [18:27:23] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> completely the same? [18:27:26] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to kojobailey> It’s always the small things [18:27:50] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to kojobailey> Well one add the class “type-$1” and the other “theme-$1” [18:27:56] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> You can use that how you like [18:28:01] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Both add a class to the box [18:28:25] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> I personally use type for more overarching stuff and theme for more specific [18:28:33] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Let’s say you wanna make boxes for mobs [18:28:47] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> All mob boxes has the same bg color but different text [18:29:09] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> You might give them all type mob and add bg there and the text colors would be using type [18:31:54] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> alr [18:33:02] <MirahezeRelay> <songngu.xyz> How can I set up a site link using wikibase? [18:34:00] <MirahezeRelay> <randomizedkirbytree47, replying to jph2> If they clarified the intended scope of their wiki maybe it would be clear how it differs from existing wikis. But they haven't clarified. [18:36:25] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> fsr the width of my infobox isn't changing no matter what i change it to [18:36:56] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [1/17] in desperation, i put width in both CSS lol [18:36:56] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [2/17] ```css [18:36:57] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [3/17] .portable-infobox { [18:36:57] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [4/17] overflow: hidden; [18:36:57] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [5/17] font-size: 90%; [18:36:58] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [6/17] background-image:url('https://static.jojowiki.com/images/customizations/Jojobg.png'); [18:36:58] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [7/17] border: 2px solid #9da1c0; [18:36:58] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [8/17] border-radius: 10px; [18:36:59] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [9/17] font-size: smaller; [18:36:59] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [10/17] line-height: 1.5; [18:36:59] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [11/17] width: 350px; [18:37:00] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [12/17] background: transparent !important; [18:37:00] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [13/17] } [18:37:01] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [14/17] .portable-infobox.pi { [18:37:01] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [15/17] width: 350px; [18:37:02] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [16/17] } [18:37:02] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [17/17] ``` [18:37:03] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> but still no luck [18:40:25] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> actually, it seems like quite a few of these things aren't working at al [18:42:36] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Hm. What wiki page is this? I can take a looky look when i get home but I ain’t great at Css [18:42:52] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> https://jojomodding.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [18:43:02] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> it's brand new so [18:43:07] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> there's barely anything [18:43:15] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> rn i'm still just testing stuff out [18:44:17] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> ok so interestingly removing every other parameter than `width` made it work [18:44:20] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> so ig something there was blocking it [18:44:45] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> that or my wiki was just delayed [18:44:56] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> because the border styles are still present here despite me removing them... [18:45:51] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> ok yeah it was totally just delay [18:45:55] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> well that's annoying [18:46:06] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> that means i have to wait like a full 10 minutes to see the changes [18:47:18] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to kojobailey> Huh [18:47:52] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> is it normal for a wiki to take this long to be affected by changes to Custom.css? [18:48:21] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Try adding “?action=purge” to the end of the page url to purge cache [18:48:31] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to kojobailey> Don’t believe so [18:48:32] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Hm [18:48:48] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> i did this thing to bypass the cache or whatever [18:48:51] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> but i'll try the purge too [18:49:02] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Maybe try messing with css rules in the element inspector instead of edits first [18:49:36] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> what's the element inspector [18:49:40] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1114166620831617054.webp?size=48&name=Clueless%7E1&quality=lossless [18:49:50] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey, replying to pixldev> doesn't seem to have worked [18:49:54] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> so it's probably a server-side thing [18:50:15] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> The inspect element thing lets you add and change custom CSS rules on your browser [18:50:19] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Well I use Firefox dev [18:50:25] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Idk if Opera has it [18:50:48] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> hm [18:52:19] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> ah ok yeah that works [18:52:30] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> very neat, thanks [18:52:35] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> No worries [18:52:37] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> i didn't even notice that CSS showed up in inspect element [18:52:48] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> For me it’s a separate tab [18:53:01] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Also only shows rules for elements you have selected [18:53:08] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> So like select the div for the pi box [18:53:33] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> yeah, works like that for me too [19:46:17] <MirahezeRelay> <jakeukalane> hello, the file https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Disambig.svg is not showing up in our wiki: https://tuscriaturas.miraheze.org/wiki/Plantilla:Desambiguado [19:53:26] <MirahezeRelay> <thom99> There is something wrong with files on Miraheze from wikimedia commons at the moment [20:11:45] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [1/2] transcluded files are not showing. [20:11:45] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [2/2] When browsing the page it appears blank but the image on commons is there [20:21:55] <MirahezeRelay> <kiju1108> [1/2] File:Symbol partial support vote.svg - also seems to be affected by this [20:21:56] <MirahezeRelay> <kiju1108> [2/2] {{Support|Weak}}'s icon is a red link [20:21:56] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Support [20:23:37] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [1/4] Another example of missing image. [20:23:37] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [2/4] Text article: <https://tuscriaturas.miraheze.org/wiki/Ayuda:Wikimedia_Commons> [20:23:38] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [3/4] blank page of file: <https://tuscriaturas.miraheze.org/wiki/Archivo:Commons-logo-en.svg> [20:23:38] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [4/4] Commons page: <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Commons-logo-en.svg> [20:24:45] <MirahezeRelay> <philimania, replying to jakeukalane> All files from wikimedia aren't showing it seems [20:28:02] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> @orduin [20:28:10] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> problem w/ Wikimedia Commons [20:28:31] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I tried to disable and enable it again, no effect [20:40:02] <MirahezeRelay> <jakeukalane, replying to jakeukalane> I uploaded the file so the error is no longer showing here, but the error I bet is still present [21:02:01] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> is Cosmos not compatable with CommentStreams? [21:02:13] <MirahezeRelay> <originalauthority> the comment button doesn't seem to appear [21:24:20] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> Greetings, people [21:25:10] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> Greetings [21:27:19] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> should my wiki's main page be a general overview, or a list of links to pages? [21:28:46] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to haya_nate43> Why chose? I did both [21:28:57] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> fair [21:29:00] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> though mainly list, should expand the overview [21:29:19] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> [[mh:ncytocosm:Main Page]] [21:29:19] <wm-bot> https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/ncytocosm:Main_Page [21:29:21] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> <https://ncytocosm.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page> [21:29:34] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Dang typo [21:30:05] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/3] @velvetbyrne @jakeukalane @thom99 [21:30:06] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/3] created task, let's hope it gets fixed soon [21:30:06] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [3/3] https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T11384 [21:30:21] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> OH I'm sorry, wrong ping [21:30:59] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> meant @avengium (idk how it's happened, damn mobile) [21:31:22] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> I love discord mobile(end my suffering please) [21:33:24] <MirahezeRelay> <netidiebele> so i put a Newsroom to be processed yesterday but is still says it's in Queue) [21:34:12] <MirahezeRelay> <__mangone__> how do i view uploaded images? [21:34:23] <MirahezeRelay> <__mangone__> a bunch of my pages have missing images even though they're imported [21:34:53] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> speedrun task closure dang [21:42:21] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> it did exactly opposite in my case 🙃 [21:42:27] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I had cached images [21:42:38] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> but then broken [21:42:51] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> guess it is fixed now tho [21:43:11] <MirahezeRelay> <.yowin> [1/2] Hello there, i just sended a request to create my own wiki for The Elder Scrolls. After managing a Fandom of nearly 4000 pages all by myself, I think It's time to get my three years work on a host that I can put my trust in. [21:43:12] <MirahezeRelay> <.yowin> [2/2] Do you have any ideas if my request will be accepted to begin with, and if yes, how much time it will take to ? [21:44:05] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> usually won't take more than 2 hours, depends on which wiki creator is available [21:44:32] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I recall an independent TES wiki exists tho? [21:45:12] <MirahezeRelay> <.yowin> In the english language there is the excellent UESP, but I am french [21:45:41] <MirahezeRelay> <.yowin> And in France, we only have an outdated fandom nearly inaccessible because of the admins [21:46:13] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> ...guys how do i make a new page [21:48:53] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> <:Amber_sad:1140000961650249779> [21:49:50] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to .yowin> I see, apologies [21:50:29] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Thanks 👍 [21:51:06] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> nevermind i found how to make a page [21:51:08] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to haya_nate43> [1/3] sadly a problem for all newcomers, thank to mediawiki never thinking about it lol [21:51:08] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to haya_nate43> [2/3] try to search for a page and you'll get a red link of it, w/ suggestion to create it, in search results [21:51:08] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to haya_nate43> [3/3] another variant is to type page name manually in URL, after `...wiki/` [21:51:50] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> new problem, how would one make a wikipedia-like infobox, for a country as an example [21:51:58] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> here we go again [21:52:04] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> im sorry <:Amber_sad:1140000961650249779> [21:52:07] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to .yowin> You can do a French Miraheze then 👍 [21:52:08] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [[User:Legroom/Infoboxes]] [21:52:08] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Legroom/Infoboxes [21:52:10] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Legroom/Infoboxes> [21:52:21] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> it's ok lol [21:52:44] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I just was hoping people would check Miraheze FAQ more often 👀 [21:52:53] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> we are having a noticeable influx now [22:02:22] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> You can write that "purge had the opposite effect" on the Miraheze Phabricator so the people reading the phab ticket know that [22:03:12] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] it did when it was broken [22:03:12] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] now that it's not broken anymore, it's a fix [22:15:59] <MirahezeRelay> <thom99, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [1/3] Thanks for making the task [22:16:00] <MirahezeRelay> <thom99, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [2/3] To be fair though I am pretty dissapointed that it’s just been closed as invalid, with the reason being that we can just purge the pages with the templates [22:16:00] <MirahezeRelay> <thom99, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [3/3] My wiki is fairly large, and I am using this template on around 60-80 of them, and I really don’t hope I need to purge all of them, any chance there could be looked upon another solution [22:16:43] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> cache updates by itself, but I don't know at which periods [22:16:57] <MirahezeRelay> <thom99> So it will fix itself? [22:17:30] <MirahezeRelay> <amelialoveheart> Did thumbnail coding break for nayone else recently too? [22:18:01] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to amelialoveheart> happened after MediaWiki update [22:18:02] <MirahezeRelay> <__mangone__> Where's common.css located? [22:18:02] <MirahezeRelay> <thom99> Nevermind [22:18:19] <MirahezeRelay> <thom99> Found out you can purge the templates pages and it works [22:18:34] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to __mangone__> page `...wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css` [22:18:44] <MirahezeRelay> <__mangone__> thx [22:19:21] <MirahezeRelay> <amelialoveheart, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Yeah figured. Did people already figure out how to fix them? [22:20:11] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to amelialoveheart> what exactly you mean? styling or File construction? [22:20:23] <MirahezeRelay> <amelialoveheart> Styling yeah, my bad. [22:20:52] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1166842122230575186 [22:21:40] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> also `|class=` in File doesn't seem to work anymore [22:21:58] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> more like, applied incorrectly [22:22:39] <MirahezeRelay> <amelialoveheart> thanks [22:24:34] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> some dude just shared his infobox and how he created it, mocking me because i couldnt [22:24:55] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> unfortunately i understand the art of ⭐ reverse engineering ⭐ [22:25:10] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to haya_nate43> bro, well thats rude [22:25:43] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> Yeah you can't exactly hide your sourcecode in MW software [22:26:10] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> no worries, i just extracted the text from his image [22:26:15] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> time to change it around [22:26:26] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> the soviets did the same and called their missile the K-13 [22:26:31] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> or the AA-2 Atoll [22:26:45] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Do you have the name template? [22:27:00] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> i dont know, lets see [22:27:14] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> okay so we're fucked [22:27:14] <MirahezeRelay> <Dyno> @haya_nate43 Watch your language. [22:27:15] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> cause thats a infobox template, if you dont have the template on the wiki it wont work [22:27:28] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> hey i do it as well screw off dyno [22:27:37] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> yea you need to make an infobox [22:27:41] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> how get template <:Amber_sad:1140000961650249779> [22:27:53] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> a template is a page in the template name space [22:28:11] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> like [[mh:nyctocosm:Template:Mob]] [22:28:11] <wm-bot> https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/nyctocosm:Template:Mob [22:28:12] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> <https://nyctocosm.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Mob> [22:28:16] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> eh [22:28:23] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to haya_nate43> Your working with a new wiki yes? [22:28:26] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> yes [22:29:07] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to haya_nate43> The type of infobox this is is called a Portable infobox, for that you want to enable the extention [22:29:16] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> you have bureacrat rights on your wiki? [22:29:22] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> what [22:29:36] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> lets pretend i do [22:29:43] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> you want me to check? [22:30:06] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> sorry if im going fast im a historically poor teacher 😔 [22:30:08] <MirahezeRelay> <__mangone__> is there any way to close off edits from the public? [22:30:20] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43, replying to pixldev> how do i check [22:30:21] <MirahezeRelay> <__mangone__> im really worried abt people messing with stuff [22:30:28] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to __mangone__> Yeah, just removed edit rights from * and User [22:30:36] <MirahezeRelay> <__mangone__, replying to pixldev> how do [22:30:43] <MirahezeRelay> <__mangone__> o wait [22:31:59] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to haya_nate43> https://YOURWIKIDOMAINHERE.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ListUsers?username=&group=bureaucrat [22:32:04] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> see if your username shows up [22:32:19] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> change yourwikidomainhere to your wiki [22:33:12] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> uh [22:33:17] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> OH [22:33:20] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> OH I SEE [22:33:24] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> IM RETARDED [22:33:24] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> need to change the url lol [22:33:35] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> its an understandable mistake [22:34:11] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> why firefox [22:34:20] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> istg [22:34:22] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> what [22:34:26] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> fhrfgiprehgeihgvt [22:34:29] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you didn't checked my guide? <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [22:34:44] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> we good [22:34:51] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> need to enable the extention first smh [22:35:05] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> we get it legroom your guide is very cool(it is ty for making it) [22:35:18] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> this? [22:35:33] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> what [22:36:18] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [1/2] Read this for infoboxes: [22:36:18] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Legroom/Infoboxes [22:36:21] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> aight, gn people [22:36:32] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to haya_nate43> yeah if thats your username you should have perms [22:36:33] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to avengium> it's too late lol [22:36:38] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> night legroom [22:36:58] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> really not i am horrible at explaning stuff [22:39:28] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> so uh [22:39:35] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> what extension @pixldev? [22:40:14] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Portable Infobox, in ManageWiki(getting the link) [22:41:13] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> https://wikidomain.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:ManageWiki/extensions [22:41:41] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> oh ive had it [22:42:56] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> so uh, what next? do i create a page for the template? [22:48:36] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> Yes. The templates go on the space `Template:` [22:49:09] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> So start the name of the page with the text Template:<name> [22:49:25] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> name in brackets i presume [22:49:38] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> Don't include brackets [22:49:45] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> as in arrows [22:49:54] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> i meant the >s [22:50:04] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> Just `Template:Name` [22:50:09] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> alright [22:53:44] <MirahezeRelay> <randomizedkirbytree47> [1/11] I have an SEO question. [22:53:44] <MirahezeRelay> <randomizedkirbytree47> [2/11] Google Search console says it won't index my wiki's article: [22:53:44] <MirahezeRelay> <randomizedkirbytree47> [3/11] https://pandorastale.wiki/wiki/Characters [22:53:45] <MirahezeRelay> <randomizedkirbytree47> [4/11] On the grounds that it is a "duplicate without a user-selected canonical." The page it is allegedly a duplicate of is the same page on my Miraheze subdomain: [22:53:45] <MirahezeRelay> <randomizedkirbytree47> [5/11] [[mh:pandorastale:Characters]] [22:53:45] <wm-bot> https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/pandorastale:Characters [22:53:45] <MirahezeRelay> <randomizedkirbytree47> [6/11] The latter page is supposed to redirect to the former page, but it doesn't, because of a bug: [22:53:45] <MirahezeRelay> <randomizedkirbytree47> [7/11] [[phab:T11310]] [22:53:45] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phab:T11310 [22:53:46] <MirahezeRelay> <randomizedkirbytree47> [8/11] I don't expect the bug to be fixed soon given the very small SRE team and the fact that they have far more important things to work on. [22:53:46] <MirahezeRelay> <randomizedkirbytree47> [9/11] My question is whether there is anything I can do as a user to tell Google that the canonical URL is on my custom domain and not the Miraheze subdomain. I already went the "moving" section of Search Console and told it that pandorastale.miraheze.org is moving to pandorastale.wiki. Google recommends several options for selecting a canonical URL, but are any of them thi [22:53:46] <MirahezeRelay> <randomizedkirbytree47> [10/11] ngs I can do as just a wiki bureaucrat on Miraheze? They all seem to require access to parts of the system I don't have. [22:53:47] <MirahezeRelay> <randomizedkirbytree47> [11/11] https://developers.google.com/search/docs/crawling-indexing/consolidate-duplicate-urls [22:53:47] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> [1/2] <https://pandorastale.miraheze.org/wiki/Characters> [22:53:47] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> [2/2] <https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T11310> [22:56:50] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> is there anyway to remove the comment section from CommentStreams on certain pages? [22:57:57] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43, replying to avengium> so i think im fucked [22:57:57] <MirahezeRelay> <Dyno> @haya_nate43 Watch your language. [22:58:30] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> visual editor is on [22:58:34] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> im not sure what the hell it is [22:58:42] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> i was told to turn it on [23:00:15] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> visual editing lets you edit visually [23:00:24] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to Generic> [1/3] You can read about commentStreams on: [23:00:25] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to Generic> [2/3] https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CommentStreams [23:00:25] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to Generic> [3/3] It has the info [23:00:38] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> kthx [23:00:39] <MirahezeRelay> <__mangone__> this is my own wki [23:00:46] <MirahezeRelay> <__mangone__> why can i not edit my own CSS [23:01:23] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to __mangone__> Are you logged in as a interface admins? [23:01:56] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43, replying to Generic> whahuh [23:02:52] <MirahezeRelay> <__mangone__, replying to pixldev> im on my own account [23:03:11] <MirahezeRelay> <__mangone__> how do i be interface admin [23:03:40] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to haya_nate43> [1/4] If you don't know what visual editor is, most likely is that you don't need VE visual editor. [23:03:41] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to haya_nate43> [2/4] If you don't use VE, you can turn it off. [23:03:41] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to haya_nate43> [3/4] For the loop, check the code and if you see the name of the template inside the template, there is where is the loop. [23:03:41] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to haya_nate43> [4/4] The likely solution is to delete the repeated name. [23:04:11] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43, replying to avengium> it just posts the entire template's plain text if i do [23:05:00] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to __mangone__> [1/2] Check Special:UserRights for your wiki. [23:05:00] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to __mangone__> [2/2] And check the rights there [23:05:27] <MirahezeRelay> <__mangone__> i have interface administrator [23:06:55] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to haya_nate43> [1/2] For me is easier to write on a page with the visual editor disabled. [23:06:56] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to haya_nate43> [2/2] Templates have very specific text, like code and you need to read that code to control what is doing the template [23:08:11] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> this happens if i remove "infobox country" [23:09:21] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to __mangone__> If you have Bureaucrat and Administrator, i don't know why you can't edit your page Mediawiki:Common.css [23:09:35] <MirahezeRelay> <__mangone__> it is quite literally my wiki i created it 😭 [23:09:42] <MirahezeRelay> <__mangone__> somethin clearly broke [23:12:32] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> If i discover why this happens, i'll tell you [23:12:42] <MirahezeRelay> <__mangone__> thanks but i gotta go bed soon [23:19:18] <MirahezeRelay> <thenamesjonas, replying to haya_nate43> Lol I was stuck at this stage for a few hours just a bit ago [23:21:02] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> im in a fuckin loop [23:21:03] <MirahezeRelay> <Dyno> @haya_nate43 Watch your language. [23:23:40] <MirahezeRelay> <thenamesjonas, replying to haya_nate43> If you're still having trouble, you need to download the Templates and all the modules to your own wiki from Wikipedia or another wiki (unless you want to manually code it yourself) [23:23:54] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> how do i download that [23:23:59] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> where* [23:24:09] <MirahezeRelay> <thenamesjonas> In the imports [23:24:27] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> ...should i ask where that is [23:24:37] <MirahezeRelay> <thenamesjonas, replying to haya_nate43> It's in special pages, go down the the bottom section [23:24:45] <MirahezeRelay> <thenamesjonas> Hold on let me type it out real quick [23:25:24] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> <:Amber_sad:1140000961650249779> [23:26:05] <MirahezeRelay> <thenamesjonas, replying to haya_nate43> It's under "special" and near the bottom, go to "import from another wiki" and have the source wiki be "wikipedia" and the page be "Template:Infobox Country" and check templates and hit import [23:26:31] <MirahezeRelay> <thenamesjonas> As I literally just figured this out like 30 minutes ago there might be easier ways to do this [23:26:59] <MirahezeRelay> <thenamesjonas> But you'll need to import all the other necessary templates and modules missing [23:27:02] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> can you screenshot where special is [23:27:11] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> nevermind [23:27:15] <MirahezeRelay> <thenamesjonas> lol [23:28:06] <MirahezeRelay> <jph2> wikipedia templates tend to be very complex and often use lua modules and may call other templates. so, while they can be used effectively, it requires checking the template's subpages to make sure you've got everything that belongs to the template. and also checking to see what modules it invokes, and what modules those modules may use. [23:29:31] <MirahezeRelay> <jph2> legroom's guide is a pretty good tool regarding infobox templates. [23:36:59] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> fuck [23:36:59] <MirahezeRelay> <Dyno> @haya_nate43 Watch your language. [23:39:54] <MirahezeRelay> <thenamesjonas> Lol you'll get it [23:39:59] <MirahezeRelay> <thenamesjonas> It just takes a bit of time [23:47:08] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to thenamesjonas> Don't download the template infobox from Wikipedia [23:48:05] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to haya_nate43> this isn't a template btw. there's two parts to a template, the stuff you put on a page (to "call" the template) and the template itself with {{{parameters}}}, you only have the first part [23:48:06] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bparameters [23:48:12] <MirahezeRelay> <thenamesjonas, replying to avengium> I meant to say import but is that also not a good idea? [23:48:31] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> so... what's the second...? [23:48:39] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to jph2> [1/2] JPH2 you are right. [23:48:39] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to jph2> [2/2] Is best to not download "infoboxes" in specific, because infoboxes are heavy weight on Wikipedia meanwhile other templates are easier [23:49:35] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to haya_nate43> If you don't know how to do "basic templates" you can try with the extension:PortableInfobox [23:50:11] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to haya_nate43> if you can find the original wiki, it would be on the template page [23:50:39] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> so i just yoink his wiki's template? [23:50:50] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> sounds easy enough [23:50:56] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> you can import it yeah [23:51:07] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to thenamesjonas> through this [23:51:38] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> there's also an "export" on wikis so you can export a specific page as a file [23:52:07] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> Depending on the infobox, is essier to do a simple one with Portable Infobox [23:56:07] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> a ha [23:57:40] <MirahezeRelay> <haya_nate43> how do i remove a blank infobox [23:58:21] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [1/2] https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PortableInfobox [23:58:21] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [2/2] Here it explains some about the extension but there is also some help in fandom website