[00:09:45] You can use a different mobile skin. Don't use MinervaaNeue [00:09:59] soo [00:10:15] can someone tell me if this looks realistic? this is the solar system for my wiki and its based off of the image on wikipedia [00:10:18] my solar system [00:10:33] vs. wikipedia's [00:11:51] Looks like a diagram of a solar system [00:12:25] so it looks like a realistic diagram? [00:12:45] im trying to replicate wikipedia on my wiki for my fictional world (like its an actual wikipedia in my universe) <:droidcry:1126190447178567681> [00:16:58] Yes. It looks realistic [00:19:54] <00000000000.0000000000000> Soooo the import request for my wiki is completed but nothing changed? [00:20:10] <00000000000.0000000000000> I checked the wiki's change log and there's no changes whatsoever [00:20:49] <00000000000.0000000000000> Does it need user to confirm the changes via email first? Because my friend requested it but he's offline rn [00:21:19] <00000000000.0000000000000> @theoneandonlylegroom [00:22:51] <00000000000.0000000000000> https://ramdaram.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [00:23:21] <00000000000.0000000000000> Oh ok NVM I see it now [00:24:22] [1/2] The import request may take a while. [00:24:22] [2/2] The people working at Miraheze are volunteers and do the things on their volunteer time. That is the free time [00:25:20] <00000000000.0000000000000, replying to avengium> Yea that wasn't the issue, I just needed to type out the correct link that have my imports [00:25:32] <00000000000.0000000000000> https://ramdaram.miraheze.org/wiki/RAMDARAM_Wiki [00:26:34] [1/2] It has the old code from Fandom. [00:26:34] [2/2] You will find that Miraheze offer much more freedom than Fandom on custom skin, aspect of the pages and more [00:27:17] <00000000000.0000000000000> Yeah that's why I chose it [00:27:26] <00000000000.0000000000000> Tho idk how miraheze works yet [00:27:50] <00000000000.0000000000000> I only started my fandom wiki 9 months ago and updated it constantly myself [00:28:25] <00000000000.0000000000000> Tho after I heard the news that fandom going to be much worse, I had to move before it's too late [00:31:35] <00000000000.0000000000000> Weird [00:31:49] <00000000000.0000000000000> That's not my thumbnail pic at all lol [00:34:25] the yen [00:35:03] the philipine peso [00:35:22] <00000000000.0000000000000> https://ramdaram.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [00:35:51] how [00:35:52] the fuck [00:35:53] @haya_nate43 Watch your language. [00:36:14] lmao [00:36:28] <00000000000.0000000000000> [1/2] How do I make main page redirect to [00:36:28] <00000000000.0000000000000> [2/2] ```https://ramdaram.miraheze.org/wiki/RAMDARAM_Wiki``` [00:36:48] what the hell [00:36:53] a new car [00:36:55] in japan [00:37:08] is half the cost of a fucking used car in the US [00:37:09] @haya_nate43 Watch your language. [00:37:59] how does their economy seem so shit on the outside yet they're able to do this shit [00:44:26] economies aren't as simple as they seem on the outside, japan has the 4th largest GDP in the world [01:23:59] does the matrix bridge not work anymore? [01:26:20] Is there a Discord bot that will send updates to a channel whenever a change is made on a wiki? [01:27:23] i seem to remember a channel in here showing exactly that for all public wikis [01:27:31] including who made an edit to what page and wiki [01:27:59] not sure if there is an option for other servers [01:33:22] yes its #global-wiki-feed [01:33:32] there's options in managewiki iirc to configure your own hooks [01:33:53] Is there a little guide for that? [01:34:45] not sure too be honest sorry [01:35:10] Ahh okay [01:35:18] I'll just stumble through it then ^^ [01:36:57] i have a lot of ideas for wikis so i think im going to do something like this ? [01:37:10] maybe i have a wiki that i use for all of my projects [01:37:14] so i dont have to manage 3 wikis [01:41:57] [1/4] Not a bot, but rather a webhook. So you need to first create a webhook on whatever discord server you want the updates to be send to. Part of that creation will give you a link [01:41:58] [2/4] Then go to your wiki's additional settings and the "Notifications tab" there, and put that link from the webhook into the [01:41:58] [3/4] `Discord Additional Incoming Webhook URLs ($wgDiscordAdditionalIncomingWebhookUrls)` [01:41:58] [4/4] field, and it should start working as soon as you save. You ofc need to be bureaucrat on your wiki to do that (unlike most settings in fact on that page, you can't even see the setting without being a bureaucrat) [01:42:35] Thank you <:Puroheart:934524727500894229> [01:51:29] It worked! [01:51:31] Thank you! [02:08:06] [1/2] Fandom is completely broken. [02:08:06] [2/2] Loading a page there crashes the browser half the time. [02:11:30] Honestly the only way I've gotten around this is putting in css that's basically a silver bullet for ads [02:12:11] i think there are ways to disable them [02:12:19] But idk how long that can last atp, I might fork one of the wikis I'm still in the early stages of working on to Miraheze [02:13:13] Yes but it won't kill ads for non users, this css is specifically used to kill all ads on the wiki whether for users or non users [02:13:14] say what you will about fandom [02:13:27] at least they dont make it difficult once you log in.. [02:13:34] oh [02:13:48] im pretty sure thats against tos- but hey screw it [02:14:35] It definitely is but it's been there for years for one of the wikis I admin at and there's been zero notice or issue <:pekolol:890485918333546496> [02:14:42] lmao [02:15:44] And with the new forking policy I'm just gonna lie down real hard [02:20:42] I'm officially off of Fandom forever. [02:21:07] I was my wiki's only editor, soooo. [02:53:45] 🥳🎉 [03:03:01] I'm currently working on a classic Japanese Literature wiki to counter the Fandom SEO but now I'm just kind of getting unsure, I am the only editor so it's easy to move everything www [03:04:33] I'm not good with the SEO stuff, does Miraheze have support for that www [03:04:48] basic level of SEO [03:05:10] as long as your wiki is hella better in term of contents inside, it will surely beat Fandom [03:05:37] higher chance if the one on Fandom is "half-baked" [03:06:52] Yeah it's mostly blank pages right now sin s I hadn't got the time to compile everything 😩 [03:07:11] So many papers and sourcebooks to trudge through, especially since this is real people www [03:09:12] I have been considering moving for a while www [03:10:50] For this wiki specifically, the bigger wikis I manage are a bit more complicated since it's one of the ones featured on their apps and I kinda don't wanna get on their bad side <:bocchi:1110500512853409852> [03:26:47] maybe you need to enable a beta feature [03:26:51] i’ll look into it later [04:04:13] reference previews started working as soon as i enabled it... [04:04:23] but i'm still not getting any normal popups [04:04:34] even from the non-redirect, non-category pages [04:04:41] not even errors [04:08:42] here's a redirect [04:21:39] if you want to test it yourself too, it's on https://jojowiki.com/User:KojoB#JoJo [04:48:59] I would be cautious about using hover previews like that [04:49:38] theyre effectively worthless on mobile, which is where a sizeable majority of people might be reading from. They're also not considered to be very accessible [04:50:40] its a nice feature to have kinda late game but be aware that its a feature not all people can or will use [04:54:10] just out of curiosity, how do you enable them? [04:54:46] Ask Kojo, they're the one using em [04:55:08] I'm just saying from a reader's perscpective that there are flaws to them [05:04:00] [1/4] hey guys, sorry to come out of nowhere like this, but i'm part of the staff team for a medium-sized wiki that's looking at options to move off of FANDOM for good. i was reading some of the recent bulletins and just wanted reassurance if that would be a good idea, or not? our options are limited as the wiki is for a ROBLOX game (which wiki.gg does not allow wikis of) and does n [05:04:00] [2/4] ot make profit (i.e. the devs earn little to nothing from the game, though they are involved with the wiki) so we cant really self-host, haha. just wanted thoughts! [05:04:00] [3/4] i also wanted to ask what the protocol for image mirroring is. i see we can send over a zip of files (along with the FANDOM XML), we have somewhere about 1000 files currently and this is increasing often, so i just want to be sure this woudn't be a huge burden [05:04:00] [4/4] thanks for any insight! [05:35:50] Attention: I have reason to believe the "slowing down" of Fandom wiki might be a cross-site scripting exploit attempting to target the broswers of users. [05:37:17] [1/2] 300 cross-site cookies are being created from advertisements generated on the website per second. [05:37:17] [2/2] Strict Mode from UBlock Origin seems to prevent this behavior. [05:42:57] This is supported by the fact that the issue is not occurring on the home page, which does not have embedded advertising. [05:43:27] Hi was planning to make a Miraheze wiki page of my own project soon, so I read about the dormancy policy and had a question -- What defines "a lot of information" in this context? Is this divided by page or by word count per page? [05:45:45] You can simply make an edit to any page with any amount of content once every two months. [05:45:59] I would add a word to a page, then remove it. [05:47:09] as if those leeches couldn't get any worse [05:47:11] At what point is this requirement no longer necessary? This project of mines has been a 1 man project for almost 2 years now, and I have went on hiatuses before [05:48:04] For context, I have 25 pages worth of content that I can port over, plus all the images that come with it [05:49:23] [1/3] Hmm, yeah you'd have to ask someone with permissions. [05:49:23] [2/3] But honestly, it takes literally 10 seconds. [05:49:23] [3/3] If you can't spare 10 seconds every 60 days, I don't know what to tell you. [05:49:43] most people will not be reading this wiki on mobile devices [05:49:57] since it's a resource for videogame modding [05:50:33] "Popups" in the extension settings [05:50:38] and you need to enabled 2 other extensions first [05:50:42] ty [05:50:44] but it doesn't seem to work... [05:50:49] but maybe that's just me idk [05:50:56] it's something i'll revisit later [05:51:26] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Reference_Tooltips [05:52:02] There are also various tooltip extensions.https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:SimpleTooltip [05:52:04] Tell me about it, I went on a 4 month hiatus where I literally can't do a thing to my project [05:53:39] [1/3] You need to have a good excuse. [05:53:40] [2/3] Like, having no access to internet for 60 continuous days. [05:53:40] [3/3] No online friends to make an edit? I, even if I am the one who makes the edit your wiki will qualify. [05:54:07] PM me your wiki I'll make an edit every 60 days lol. [05:54:30] i do have a lot of concerns with the dormancy policy for media preservation but its not like we have any choice at this point [05:55:52] [1/4] Yeah, but you can request exemption status. [05:55:52] [2/4] On top of that, anyone who really cares can... again. [05:55:53] [3/4] Make any edit, on any page, of any amount, at any time over a 60 day period. [05:55:53] [4/4] This isn't a difficult requirement to meet. [05:56:04] yeah for sure, im just thinking literally years in the future LOL [05:56:15] esp for online games and such that become lost media once theyre closed or deleted [05:56:23] But if you want to retain their data. You can just edit one of their pages. [05:56:37] yeah, again im thinking literally years in the future when none of the contributors are around anymore [05:56:48] its a necessary evil but does suck [05:57:50] Was grinding my dissertation on my master's degree lul, granted its a one time thing but I wanted to make sure my wiki doesn't get nuked for whatever sudden reason in the future [05:58:03] It has been a one man project all this time as well [05:58:14] Worldbuilding? [05:58:35] yeah, one wiki project i had ive moved entirely to neocities and just writing the website myself staticly because im the only contributer and its for a long dead franchise that rarely, if ever, receives new content [05:58:45] so its not that compatible with miraheze [05:59:21] the other project i work on which we\'re looking to move to miraheze im not worried about dormancy for a while but just worry about the future when one day nobody cares enough to edit it to keep it up, but its the only remaining documentation of the game [06:00:38] [1/2] Put it in multiple places. Create an obsidian.md vault. Upload it to github. [06:00:38] [2/2] If you want longevity, you should do all of those things. [06:01:01] yeah, that is far beyond my technical scope, im a FANDOM user after all lol [06:01:43] overall its sort of a general hopelessness for the state of media preservation these days but thats a whole conversation haha [06:03:03] Even internet archive might be dead soon. [06:03:58] 😔 web 3.0 is here and we're already living in it [06:07:26] You will own nothing but NFTs, and you will be happy. [06:07:55] we at Inkipedia (Splatoon) use a lot of twitter references and were so concerned about its longevity as of late that we have worked on hard archiving everything manually on site [06:08:10] depressing but necessary [06:08:12] damn that sounds rough [06:08:24] it is but ultimately its for the best [06:08:38] I made the template we use for it look like a tweet which is a bit neat I would say [06:12:56] Oh nah it isn't, its a personal side project where I create a hub for people to share their concepts for a game, and to do that I basically collect/analyze/showcase them [06:13:21] Previously this project was hosted in the official game wiki but they cracked down on sandbox pages that are only for external use [06:13:37] So one of the mods suggested that I try out Miraheze [06:13:45] [1/2] https://gameideas.fandom.com/ [06:13:45] [2/2] ? [06:14:04] jesus thats a lot of pages [06:14:32] Its not that wiki I hosted my stuff in [06:14:40] Since my content is only about team fortress 2 [06:14:47] It was hosted on their wiki [06:14:54] Oh, interesting. [06:14:55] you know what [06:15:15] But the base idea is similar to the wiki you linked yea [06:15:16] if you were interested, you might want to reach out to Fanon wiki [06:15:36] small group of guys spun off Pikmin Fanon to be an overarching thing [06:15:48] Oh nah this isn't a large enough thing to go fanon on [06:15:56] Almost all the showcases aren't my work either [06:16:01] you have more pages than they do [06:16:09] My plans were either Miraheze or Github [06:16:25] And I can't make a fancy website so I wanted to give Miraheze a try [06:16:29] Lool into obsidian.md to make a personal backup. [06:18:35] I'll give it a look [06:18:59] So far my backups are done in a bunch of txt files on my pc lul [06:20:03] Worth doing. [06:21:53] Without context I thought it was a skill tree for a RPG [07:50:35] Oh Obsidian is great for notes. Never thought about writing/storing a wiki on it, it could be seen as a personal wiki app too! [07:52:11] I do need a proper notes app anyways so this is greatly appreciated [07:52:23] I have a tendency to jot down a bunch of random ideas in general [07:53:31] And on an off topic question -- Can I get a 2nd opinion on whether the subdomain `rebalancetf` is too confusing or generic? [07:54:20] For what wiki woult it be? [07:55:03] A game based wiki, the idea was to create a wiki where fan ideas over the years from a game are archived [07:55:11] So somewhat like an encyclopedia [07:55:42] The tf part is the standard name all 3rd party websites from said game use [07:56:16] But I worry that it isn't clear enough for my request to be approved since volunteers may not know the significance behind the word tf [07:56:23] And rebalance alone is vague [07:56:57] Oh I see. Hmm rebalance brings modding to mind for me but I guess your wiki would be close to that somewhat [07:57:33] There should be a comment field where you can explain your request afaik. So don't worry about approving volunteers to judge by the domain name alone [07:59:16] Will ideas be strictly meant to balance the game? If not then I can see that misleading a bit [07:59:59] The ideas are strictly meant to balance the game yes, at most there may be some custom new concepts or balancing related to another gamemode within the same game [08:00:08] And that's good to hear [08:02:02] Then personally that sounds like a good subdomain <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [08:04:05] <:PamThumbsUp:606252632339775572> tyvm for the second take [08:39:52] Think I might need a hand again, is anyone open to dms to guide me through the process of making a wiki [09:48:54] [1/2] how do i transclude a page without bringing the categories with it? [09:48:55] [2/2] like, i have page with some categories, and i transclude it to the main page but then it adds those categories to the main page tooi could just put in all of the category links of the pages but thatd just be annoying [09:55:25] exemption from dormancy policy can be requeted but need a good reason [09:55:37]