[00:03:56] Golden Record Alliance, something thematic like that [00:04:30] hell that could possibly be a notability policy if you wanted is to have any record of theirs sell golden status [00:06:13] if thats something that does interest you I'd be down to help out organize something like thag [00:25:08] Is there a guide anywhere on troubleshooting Infobox issues [00:34:50] <_terbo> i cant change the colour of this element [00:35:55] <_terbo> yes i tried section [00:35:59] <_terbo> and #mw-content [00:36:40] Towers? Jtoh???? [00:36:47] <_terbo> not helpful [00:37:08] i contributed extremely helpful information that you would not have known if i had not been born [00:37:21] you should be grateful that i even exist [00:37:47] <_terbo> ok?? [00:38:09] let alone that i gave that information [00:38:24] <_terbo> this is why i dont hang around the jtoh community anymore [00:38:27] Have you tried ``background-color: #000000 !important;``? [00:39:36] <_terbo> IT WORKED! thanks [00:40:33] <_terbo> is there a way i cna make the background transparent [00:40:45] <_terbo> so the background image is visible but to a lesser degree [00:42:22] if your using the cosmos skin [00:42:28] im pretty sure there is a setting for that [00:42:40] it's an integer that goes from 1 to 100 [00:42:51] lower number = lower visibility [00:43:12] <_terbo> ok but where is the setting [00:43:28] it's in additional settings [00:49:16] could prob use css properties as well but forgot the name [00:49:34] could try googling css background opacity propert [00:49:41] <_terbo> WHY THE HELL IS IT STILL RED [00:49:50] <_terbo> fuck this [00:50:06] if its a solid color use an 8 digit hex vaue [00:50:19] <_terbo> dude its stuck [00:50:21] <_terbo> as this stupid red [00:50:23] <_terbo> i cant get rid of it [00:51:33] can I see your css please [00:52:39] <_terbo> there isnt any css. [00:52:45] where did you set red [00:52:56] uh ik theres a css safemode [00:53:04] <_terbo> its fine dude i just changed style back and forth [00:55:23] <_terbo> oh sweet now the wiki doesnt even load [00:56:58] <_terbo> DUDE itsj ust empty now [00:56:59] <_terbo> wtf [00:57:12] You pissed off the wiki gods somehow [00:57:13] <_terbo> i mean its all there [00:57:17] <_terbo> but its fuckin white everything [00:57:37] might be more of a server error thana you one [00:58:26] <_terbo> ok it FINALLY loaded [01:07:19] <_terbo> this doesnt work [01:07:30] <_terbo> that or it takes 13 years to load [01:10:33] <_terbo> ok this is incredibly unresponsive and its starting to tick me off a lot [01:13:23] <_terbo> aaaand now the image is gone again 😎 [01:13:51] css changes take a hot minute to come through [01:25:20] Have you tried wambo? [01:47:39] Have you treid Gligblo? [01:47:58] Or zibbleslab? [01:48:22] <_terbo> what [02:14:48] is there any way to change the distance of the text from the borders of a table? [02:21:20] add padding [02:22:15] specifically padding left [02:34:49] didnt work [02:38:59] <_terbo> fr are images just not working at all [02:40:35] they just take a long time to load [02:40:46] <_terbo> it should not take an hour to load [02:40:57] it took a day for an image to load on my header [02:41:08] <_terbo> wow miraheze is slow [02:44:45] <_terbo> does anyone know how i can fix up the styling on this? i want to change the colouring and fix the misalignment [02:44:56] <_terbo> ignore the comically small image [02:51:44] let me see your css [02:51:55] <_terbo> there.. is no css... [02:52:00] OOH [02:52:04] that's portable infobox [02:52:11] <_terbo> yes.. [02:52:12] <_terbo> ? [02:52:39] yeah i dont know [02:52:47] <_terbo> bruh. [02:52:55] if it's anywhere it's in additional settings > styling [02:53:13] and then look for cosmos customization hex code settings [02:54:01] i didn't modify my portable infobox's color so i think it's based on some other setting [02:54:39] <_terbo> ive already looked there ._. [02:54:41] <_terbo> also its nomt just colour [02:54:44] <_terbo> the whole title is misaligned [02:55:32] <_terbo> this doesnt seem to work [02:55:50] <_terbo> idek if style works [02:57:19] what is that [02:57:26] is that how you got that infobox? [02:57:46] <_terbo> its just the portable infobox template [02:58:13] <_terbo> man it feels too frustrating to do the most triival things on this thing [02:59:43] what is the name of your infobox [02:59:52] infobox template [03:00:01] <_terbo> Template:DifficultyInfobox [03:00:01] <_terbo> i dont think that matters [03:00:18] what are the parameters on your infobox [03:01:22] when you find out the names of the parameter you've set when you made the template [03:01:33] [1/2] then try to do [03:01:33] [2/2] {{DifficultyInfobox [03:01:53] <_terbo> [1/36] ``` [03:01:53] <_terbo> [2/36] [03:01:54] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [3/36] <default>{{PAGENAME}}/default [03:01:54] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PAGENAME [03:01:54] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [4/36] /title [03:01:54] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [5/36] <image source="image"/> [03:01:54] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [6/36] <data source="class"> [03:01:55] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [7/36] <label>class/label [03:01:55] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [8/36] <default>N/A/default [03:01:55] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [9/36] /data [03:01:56] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [10/36] <data source="tier"> [03:01:56] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [11/36] <label>tier/label [03:01:57] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [12/36] <default>N/A/default [03:01:57] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [13/36] /data [03:01:58] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [14/36] <data source="rating"> [03:01:58] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [15/36] <label>rating/label [03:01:59] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [16/36] <default>Normal/default [03:01:59] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [17/36] /data [03:02:00] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [18/36] <group layout="horizontal"> [03:02:00] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [19/36] <data source="previous"> [03:02:01] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [20/36] <label>previous/label [03:02:01] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [21/36] <default>N/A/default [03:02:02] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [22/36] /data [03:02:02] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [23/36] <data source="next"> [03:02:03] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [24/36] <label>next/label [03:02:03] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [25/36] <default>N/A/default [03:02:04] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [26/36] /data [03:02:04] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [27/36] /group [03:02:05] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [28/36] <data source="decal"> [03:02:05] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [29/36] <label>decal id/label [03:02:06] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [30/36] <default>0/default [03:02:06] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [31/36] /data [03:02:07] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [32/36] <data source="nickname"> [03:02:07] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [33/36] <label>nickname/label [03:02:08] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [34/36] /data [03:02:08] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [35/36] /infobox [03:02:09] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> [36/36] ``` [03:02:24] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> [1/7] {{DifficultyInfobox [03:02:24] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> [2/7] | yourparameterhere = putyourvaluehere [03:02:24] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> [3/7] | yourparameterhere = putyourvaluehere [03:02:25] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> [4/7] | yourparameterhere = putyourvaluehere [03:02:25] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> [5/7] | yourparameterhere = putyourvaluehere [03:02:25] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> [6/7] | yourparameterhere = putyourvaluehere [03:02:26] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> [7/7] }} [03:02:28] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> instead of that mess [03:03:23] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> [1/4] {{DifficultyInfobox [03:03:24] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> [2/4] | title = {{PAGENAME}} [03:03:24] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PAGENAME [03:03:24] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> [3/4] | image = Example.JPEG [03:03:24] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> [4/4] | tier = N/A [03:03:25] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> thats literalaly just how portable infoboxes work ._. [03:03:25] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> and so on [03:03:35] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> i mean ok ig [03:03:42] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> put that in your article [03:03:58] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> the difficulty article [03:04:12] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> how the heck am i supposed to do two rows in one thing [03:04:19] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> what [03:04:27] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> ._. [03:04:50] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> you dont [03:04:54] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> oh wait [03:04:55] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> uh [03:05:03] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> why not just make that two rows vertically [03:05:07] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> and not horizontally [03:05:16] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> if you want to make then horizontally then idk [03:05:18] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> wait no [03:05:33] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> ._. [03:05:35] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> im pretty sure that you dont need to do that [03:05:49] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> you can just do it normally and they will go horizontally [03:06:05] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> doesnt matter about the parameter's layout [03:06:12] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> you can put image first and name last [03:06:18] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> it will still turn out the same [03:06:23] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> thats not [03:06:26] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> i want these two elements side by side [03:06:47] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> yeah [03:06:53] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> im pretty sure it will just do it [03:07:04] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> without you having to do extra stuff [03:07:10] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> if that doesnt work then idk [03:07:59] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> what are you talking about even [03:08:03] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> the script i just sent was for the template [03:08:44] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> well that didnt help [03:08:52] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> its just the exact same thing it was before [03:09:03] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> oh [03:09:04] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> ._. [03:09:10] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> this is not helping [03:09:17] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> show me the entire page [03:09:24] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> that doesnt matter [03:09:26] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> teh page doesnt matter dude] [03:09:31] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> i want to change the css of the template [03:09:32] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> i need to see your header color [03:09:41] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> thats not what iw ant rn [03:10:34] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> zppix will save you is this trying time [03:10:36] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> @Generic if you have no idea how to help, please do not misinform users, thanks. [03:10:43] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> Whoops [03:10:57] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> And no, I will not, I am not experience with CSS [03:11:06] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> aw shucks [03:12:43] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> this is really frustrating [03:13:09] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix, replying to _terbo> @CSS/JS Support Volunteers [03:13:54] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> Someone should be around hopefully to help [03:16:10] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> i just need a simple way to be able ot edit the css of a template [03:16:14] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> but it wont let me change anything aobut it [03:17:47] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> Yeah, I have no idea, I’m more of a backend developer, and good at systems than front-end development [03:21:15] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> are there simpler alternatives to miraheze [03:21:19] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> thsi might be a bit much for me [03:22:19] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> This is really as simple as you get [03:22:26] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> At least for free [03:22:47] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> Portable infobox is by FAR the simplest, the other alternatives are more or less either build it yourself with tables from the ground up, which gets VERY complex very fast, to even get what you already have with PI, or overengineered wikipediate styles one, that noone here will be able to find heads and tails in [03:22:49] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> yeah i figured [03:22:59] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo, replying to gummiel> but i am using portable infoboxes [03:23:01] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> and i cant figure out how to just [03:23:02] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> change the css [03:23:09] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> ive tried using inspect element and usch [03:24:08] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> or using style="" [03:25:14] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> @_terbo I FOUND OUT [03:25:55] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> so basically go to MediaWIki:Cosmos.css [03:26:07] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to _terbo> [1/2] First of all that certainly doesn't work default tag itself does not have parameters like that, generally it is just for whatever you want written if nothing else is supplied for it parent tag. [03:26:08] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to _terbo> [2/2] For how to actually do, well first of all are we talking a general styling for all your infoboxes, or just the stlying for a specific type you are currently constructing? [03:26:27] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> general styling [03:26:43] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix, replying to notaracham> Heres the official PortalableInfobox documentation [03:27:31] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> i still dont understand [03:27:39] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> also this is just empty [03:27:48] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> because you need to edit it with stuff [03:28:00] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> i found this fandom post https://community.fandom.com/f/p/3247493290655746509/r/3247874108293122573 [03:28:05] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> telling me to "just edit it" doesnt help i need to know what im editing and where to get it [03:28:06] <MirahezeRelay> <trigjegman> Cosmos has default settings, that page changes said settings [03:28:15] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> there we go [03:28:28] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> well theres no documentation anywhere so i actually know what im supposed to write [03:28:32] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> and it tells you how [03:28:33] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> or at least none given [03:28:34] <MirahezeRelay> <trigjegman> If you're making infobox changes do it on MediaWiki:Common.css [03:28:40] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> unless its buried in the documentation i was just sent [03:28:40] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> the post!! [03:28:46] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> yes generic i know give me a second [03:29:05] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> this is really frustrating uhh [03:29:08] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to _terbo> [1/7] I would suggest doing the styling then in Mediawiki:Common.css (or the skin specific version, up to you) using something like this: [03:29:08] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to _terbo> [2/7] ```css [03:29:08] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to _terbo> [3/7] h2.pi-title { [03:29:08] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to _terbo> [4/7] font-size:100px [03:29:09] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to _terbo> [5/7] } [03:29:09] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to _terbo> [6/7] ``` [03:29:09] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to _terbo> [7/7] for what you had shown, can put other css attributes in the {} as well if you want more [03:29:10] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> where do i put the css then [03:29:10] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> ?? [03:29:21] <MirahezeRelay> <trigjegman> MediaWiki:Common.css [03:29:40] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> put the css in common.css or cosmos.css [03:29:43] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> because you're using cosmos [03:29:45] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> Common.css is empty by default just edit it and add it, it is extra css you make that goes there on top of the default css from skin etc [03:29:57] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> I think we have too many cooks in the kitchen
 [03:29:58] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> ISNT DOING ANYTHING [03:29:58] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> caps [03:30:07] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> reloaded the pages [03:30:09] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> with the infobox [03:30:13] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> It might take a bit before it takes effect. cache and all that [03:30:14] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> it takes a while [03:30:19] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> true ig [03:30:26] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> the cache is frustratingly slow but oh well [03:30:30] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> You have to purge the cache. Add ?action=purge to the end of the page with the template’s URL [03:30:33] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> just fiddle around with the values and you can have a custom looking sleek infobox [03:30:41] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [1/2] Wiki Ideas [03:30:42] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [2/2] Fandexit Wiki - Articles of wikis that have left Fandom for other websites and why. [03:31:07] <MirahezeRelay> <trigjegman> Honestly I prefer to just make my own with a table+divs and templatestyles so I can only help so much [03:31:17] <MirahezeRelay> <trigjegman, replying to soaringmoon> be a better social media feed or website than a wiki [03:31:22] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> ok well that changed nothing [03:31:25] <MirahezeRelay> <trigjegman> could maybe have wikiindex track it as well [03:31:32] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> forcing the cache, i mean [03:31:35] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix, replying to trigjegman> Thats a much more difficult thing especially with beginners [03:31:53] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> it should not be this harddd damn [03:32:31] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> yep its still changed nothing [03:32:34] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon, replying to _terbo> If you don't see changes, try ctrl+f5, and shift+f5 [03:32:38] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> i have [03:32:43] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> OK FINALLY [03:32:45] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> WOO [03:32:47] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> 🎉 [03:32:55] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> Just give it like 5 minutes if forcing cache doesnt work [03:32:57] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> miraheze does not offer a good first impression [03:33:07] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> because im stupid [03:33:11] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> Otherwise try puting `!important` after css lines. For stuff that isn't changing. [03:33:24] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> MediaWiki in itself is very big learning curve [03:33:42] <MirahezeRelay> <trigjegman> This isn't miraheze. It would be no different on wikitide or an independent site [03:33:49] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> Ive been using MediaWiki since 2014, and even have done some development for it and I still don’t know how to do alot of things [03:34:14] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> MediaWiki is complex. Miraheze is just providing a mediawiki installation. [03:34:14] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> oh yeah also why is the css so misaligned [03:34:27] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> because you pressed the <> button [03:34:28] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> whys the dang line all the way out there [03:34:40] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> Thats nornal [03:34:41] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> Because you aren't viewing it with a monospaced font. [03:34:45] <MirahezeRelay> <trigjegman> that is the standard css format for some reason [03:34:50] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> well cant exactly change it [03:34:52] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> for smoe reason [03:34:59] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> ok finally [03:35:02] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> in preferences? [03:35:10] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> i just have to sacrifice the colours [03:35:43] <MirahezeRelay> <trigjegman> I might make a standard format infobox with a table here when I'm back from my show [03:35:51] <MirahezeRelay> <trigjegman> might be useful [03:35:58] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> [1/2] Using either your browsers element inspector, or the `User:yourAccountName/Common.css` can help to test CSS before putting it on the Mediawiki version of the page. Element inspect works on the fly, but only for the active page untill you reload to navigate to another page. Your userpage version works immediatly and more permannt that inspector, but only works for you, so still need t [03:35:59] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> [2/2] o move it to the Mediawiki version for it to works for everyone else but is great to test as I said [03:36:08] <MirahezeRelay> <trigjegman> Will over-document the `cungadero` out of it [03:36:08] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> also my background image has not loaded for ages now [03:36:22] <MirahezeRelay> <trigjegman> are you sure said background was set properly [03:36:22] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> Syntax highlighting should be enabled by default. [03:36:25] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> ive used inspect element it does not help <:gato_ohthemisery:990713759544782849> [03:36:39] <MirahezeRelay> <trigjegman> rgb <:lastnerve:1032897011063734332> [03:36:42] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo, replying to soaringmoon> syntax highlighting condensese the font for some reason [03:37:02] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> I think the issue is youre trying to do too much at once, I would take the time to learn how to do one thing first than move to the next [03:37:16] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon, replying to _terbo> You shouldn't have to turn anything on. That's what "by default" means. [03:37:33] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> i do not like this <:OI_snoot:1061725944441737380> [03:37:39] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> ughh jnust one thing at a time ig [03:37:46] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> it gets easier the more you build your wiki [03:37:49] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> but its concerning that one thing is this frustrating to handle [03:38:12] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon, replying to _terbo> Do you know what to do with `class=""` names when you see them in inspect element? [03:38:38] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> if class="x" then its .x isnt it [03:39:35] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix, replying to _terbo> That’s gonna be any software you deal with that has as much functionality as MediaWiki, and pretty much going to be the issue with any free service. This is why corporations hire front end developers and such to do their web design [03:40:39] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> Stuff like this isn’t “plug and play”, its a learning curve, but its doable if you take the time to do it [03:40:48] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> yeah i know that [03:41:33] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [1/14] Well sometimes. [03:41:34] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [2/14] Typically, that will be too large of a scope. [03:41:34] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [3/14] ```html [03:41:34] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [4/14] <div class="lol"><p>Hey guys, its your boy!<p>/div [03:41:35] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [5/14] ``` [03:41:35] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [6/14] Is targeted by, [03:41:35] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [7/14] ```css [03:41:35] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [8/14] div.lol {font-weight: bold;} [03:41:36] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [9/14] ``` [03:41:36] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [10/14] Where [03:41:36] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [11/14] ```html [03:41:37] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [12/14] <table class="lol"><tr><td>Hey guys, its your boy!/td/tr/table [03:41:37] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [13/14] ``` [03:41:38] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [14/14] Would get targeted by just `.lol {font-weight: bold;} [03:42:22] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> If you aren't specific enough, you could have an issue. [03:42:26] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> amazing [03:42:39] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> look all i know is that theres only a certian amount of things i actually need to concern myself with [03:42:57] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> ive already figured out Notices and Infoboxes [03:43:11] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> CSS makes my head hurt lol [03:43:12] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> What are you trying to do specifically? [03:44:15] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> idk this is such a headache [03:44:28] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> theres this sort of text effect but i can figure that out because its just CSS and ids [03:44:29] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to zppix> Yeah CSS can be weird, specially inhertance rules, seems inconsistent to me. Often it really just ends up as trial and error, to see what works and what doesn't [03:44:56] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix, replying to gummiel> My entire IT background is networking and back-end so most front end things just doesnt make logical sense to me [03:44:57] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> I can help you do that. [03:45:00] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> theres also thsi sort of ordeal [03:45:11] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> im sort of just taking from the fandom version of this because thats just easier [03:45:13] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> than trying to redesign everything [03:45:23] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> honestly hwether it looks good or not isnt as big of a concern because this is just a joke wiki [03:46:08] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to zppix> I mean pretty much the same for me... yet I somehow ended up being the main wiki guy for the community my wiki is about... noone else is every remotely qualified... so I kinda had to learn it a fair bit xD [03:46:12] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> also the main page ig [03:46:15] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> just formatting in general [03:46:54] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [1/2] Well for text glow effects you are looking for the "text-shadow" property. [03:46:54] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> [2/2] <https://html-css-js.com/css/generator/text-shadow/> [03:47:24] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix, replying to gummiel> I also believe in testing in production đŸ€Ł [03:47:25] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> Blinking, pulsing, and animations are a little more complicated than that. [03:47:55] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to zppix> Nothing will ever go wrong with that 😄 [03:47:56] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> no i know the css stuff [03:48:05] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix, replying to gummiel> “If its not broken, give me a minute” [03:48:07] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo, replying to soaringmoon> id like to be able to do that but yeah i imagine its more complicated... [03:48:22] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> im just trying to make a simple page with all the elements and templates i want to use [03:48:39] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> Oh, I literally just use my user page. XD [03:50:21] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo, replying to soaringmoon> if you're this knowledgeable i could maybe just DM you about this stuff if thats alright [03:50:34] <MirahezeRelay> <_terbo> theres only so many things i actually need to learn until im set and you seem knowledgeable about it all [03:50:45] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> Sure, I'll add you. [05:29:35] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> can someone help me with a portable navbox? i'm having trouble creating one. [05:42:55] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to yoav_1> you mean infobox? [05:43:13] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> the card thingy at the beginning of article? [05:43:30] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> no [05:45:24] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> i mean this type of stuff [05:45:43] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> A port navbox [05:49:44] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> something new huh [05:50:04] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I use fandom's Lua modules for infoboxes [05:50:26] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> there are two of them, Nabvox and Navbox builder [05:50:52] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> the trick is to copy (w/ attribution) code from dev.fandom wiki [05:51:15] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [1/10] This is what i tried to do [05:51:15] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [2/10] {{PortableNavbox [05:51:16] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [3/10] | stacked = yes [05:51:16] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [4/10] | Godclads Wiki [05:51:16] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [5/10] | Main Characters [05:51:17] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [6/10] | Avo ! Jelene Draus ! Aedon Chambers ! Kae Kusanade [05:51:17] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [7/10] | The Great Eight Guilds [05:51:17] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [8/10] | HighFlame ! Ori Thuam ! AshThrone ! No - Dragons/Sang ! OmniTech ! VoidWatch ! Sanctus [05:51:18] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [9/10] }} [05:51:18] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [10/10] <noinclude>" [05:51:31] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> better link [05:51:41] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> But it told me i was creating a loop [05:51:51] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Link what? [05:52:00] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> but I suspect we can't provide it if it's really a whole extension like PortableInfobox [05:52:07] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to yoav_1> example of fandom [05:52:15] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Huh? [05:52:35] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> 8 am, typos my beloved [05:52:42] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I slept for 5 hours [05:52:53] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> I can't relate to that [05:53:26] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> But anyhow - you want to see the source code that i took from the fandom wiki? [05:53:53] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> need to see the code on a fandom page w/ that portable navbox thing [05:54:13] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> it might be a js script, Lua module or a whole extension [05:54:23] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [1/21] {{PortableNavbox [05:54:23] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [2/21] | stacked = yes [05:54:23] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [3/21] | Ave Xia Rem Y Wiki [05:54:24] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [4/21] | Main Characters [05:54:24] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [5/21] | [[Liu Jin]] ! [[Xiao Shuang]] ! [[Xiao Fang]] ! [[Lu Mei]] ! [[Bei Hong]] ! [[Huang Shing]] [05:54:24] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Liu_Jin https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Xiao_Shuang https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Xiao_Fang https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Lu_Mei https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Bei_Hong https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Huang_Shing [05:54:24] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [6/21] | [[Sects]] [05:54:24] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Sects [05:54:24] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [7/21] | [[Eternal Flame Clan]] ! [[Divine Frozen Palace]] ! [[Endlessly Raging Valley]] ! [[Infinite Mountain Sect]] ! [[Xiao Sect]] [05:54:24] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Eternal_Flame_Clan https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Divine_Frozen_Palace https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Endlessly_Raging_Valley https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Infinite_Mountain_Sect https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Xiao_Sect [05:54:25] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [8/21] | Cities [05:54:25] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [9/21] | [[Eastern Port City]] ! [[Ember City]] ! [[Five Bats City]] ! [[Night Phantasm City]] ! [[Night Plum City]] ! [[Soaring Cloud City]] [05:54:25] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Eastern_Port_City https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Ember_City https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Five_Bats_City https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Night_Phantasm_City https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Night_Plum_City https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Soaring_Cloud_City [05:54:25] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [10/21] | Regions [05:54:26] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [11/21] | [[Crimson Cloud Empire]] ! [[Storm Dragon Empire]] ! [[Night Forest Nation]] ! [[Pure Oasis Country]] ! [[Green Fort Kingdom]] ! [[Dead Plains]] [05:54:26] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Crimson_Cloud_Empire https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Storm_Dragon_Empire https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Night_Forest_Nation https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Pure_Oasis_Country https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Green_Fort_Kingdom https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Dead_Plains [05:54:26] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [12/21] | [[Continents]] [05:54:26] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Continents [05:54:27] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [13/21] | [[Vermillion]] ! [[Amaranth]] ! [[Carmine]] [05:54:27] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Vermillion https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Amaranth https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Carmine [05:54:27] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [14/21] }} [05:54:28] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [15/21] <noinclude> [05:54:28] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [16/21] If using the source editor, copy/paste the below section into a new page to add this. [05:54:29] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [17/21] <pre> [05:54:29] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [18/21] ==Navigation== [05:54:30] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [19/21] {{AveXiaRemY Navbox}} [05:54:30] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:AveXiaRemY_Navbox [05:54:30] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [20/21] /pre [05:54:31] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> [21/21] /noinclude [05:54:31] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> [1/15] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Liu_Jin?action=edit&redlink=1> [05:54:32] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> [2/15] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Xiao_Shuang?action=edit&redlink=1> [05:54:32] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> [3/15] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Xiao_Fang?action=edit&redlink=1> [05:54:33] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> [4/15] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Lu_Mei?action=edit&redlink=1> [05:54:33] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> [5/15] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Bei_Hong?action=edit&redlink=1> [05:54:34] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> [6/15] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Huang_Shing?action=edit&redlink=1> [05:54:34] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> [7/15] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Sects?action=edit&redlink=1> [05:54:35] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> [8/15] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Eternal_Flame_Clan?action=edit&redlink=1> [05:54:35] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> [9/15] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Divine_Frozen_Palace?action=edit&redlink=1> [05:54:36] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> [10/15] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Endlessly_Raging_Valley?action=edit&redlink=1> [05:54:36] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> [11/15] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Infinite_Mountain_Sect?action=edit&redlink=1> [05:54:37] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> [12/15] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Xiao_Sect?action=edit&redlink=1> [05:54:37] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> [13/15] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Eastern_Port_City?action=edit&redlink=1> [05:54:38] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> [14/15] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Ember_City?action=edit&redlink=1> [05:54:38] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> [15/15] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Five_Bats_City?action=edit&redlink=1> [05:54:39] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/AveXiaRemY_Navbox?action=edit&redlink=1> [05:54:39] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> sigh [05:54:42] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Sorry [05:54:50] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Wasn't aware it would do that [05:54:51] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> please react w/ đŸ—‘ïž to this bot message [05:55:36] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Done [05:56:06] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> screen shot [05:57:08] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] man I need the link to this page to go and see all tied templates and stuff [05:57:08] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] I can't analyse this by screenshot [05:57:32] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> https://ave-xia-rem-y.fandom.com/wiki/Template:AveXiaRemY_Navbox [05:57:41] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Here you go [06:02:41] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> Lua module [06:04:15] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/4] first copy code from here [06:04:16] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/4] <https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/Module:PortableNavbox> [06:04:16] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [3/4] `Module:PortableNavbox` page on your wiki [06:04:16] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [4/4] add a commentary that you copied it from dev fandom, og page link, it's a matter of copyright [06:05:55] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> All of the code? [06:06:00] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> yes [06:07:34] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> then enable extension PortableInfobox, I think it's dependent [06:15:00] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/3] after that create `Template:PortableNavbox` page w/ this code: [06:15:00] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/3] `{{#invoke:PortableNavbox|main}}` [06:15:00] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23invoke:Template:PortableNavbox [06:15:00] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [3/3] not sure if the "main" bit is important but let it be [06:15:51] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> i copied the code and pasted it in the module [06:16:21] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> it won't let me write there that i copied it from lua and that the credit goes to them for some reason [06:18:48] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> comment in module code is done w/ `--` at the beginning, like this [06:19:16] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] full documentation of this PortableNavbox thing is here [06:19:17] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] <https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/Global_Lua_Modules/PortableNavbox> [06:20:05] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> gotta eat noe [06:27:40] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> have fun thanks [06:45:53] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> why is it saying lua error god damnit [06:50:10] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Something about a module 'dev:yesno' not found. Which is weird because the Navbox module is copied from lua in my wiki. [07:05:14] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> how to i make a table stick to the right side of an article [07:31:25] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to yoav_1> [1/3] well fuck [07:31:25] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to yoav_1> [2/3] needs that module too, then [07:31:26] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to yoav_1> [3/3] and that's why I avoid Lua stuff [07:31:43] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to Generic> `float: right;` [07:33:46] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> it worked thanks [07:45:11] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I tried to search for it it didn't see to have code in the same way the navbox has [07:53:50] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to yoav_1> [1/7] copy this [07:53:51] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to yoav_1> [2/7] <https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/Module:Yesno> [07:53:51] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to yoav_1> [3/7] to `Module:Yesno` page on your wiki [07:53:51] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to yoav_1> [4/7] in `Module:PortableNavbox` replace [07:53:52] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to yoav_1> [5/7] `Dev:Yesno` (at line 4) [07:53:52] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to yoav_1> [6/7] w/ [07:53:52] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to yoav_1> [7/7] `Module:Yesno` [07:54:27] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Thank you [08:39:52] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Ok so i got the nav box to work [08:40:04] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Now i just need to enlarge it somehow [08:46:22] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> because this just looks silly [08:57:38] <MirahezeRelay> <soaringmoon> >__> Yoooo CSS takes forever to update. [09:11:14] <MirahezeRelay> <tangkwa> Hello! I filled the request import form in Miraheze but I'm curious if mine is going to work since my source url is localhost (I did uploaded my wiki dump in XML and sent the form anyway) Does anybody know the answer? If this doesn't work, should I make the new one in Miraheze myself? Thank you so much! [09:30:34] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> how do i separate these tables without using <br> [09:32:36] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to Generic> `margin` [09:34:48] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to yoav_1> [1/3] missing this thing [09:34:49] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to yoav_1> [2/3] <https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/MediaWiki:PortableNavbox.css> [09:34:49] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to yoav_1> [3/3] not sure where to place it tho, `MediaWiki:Common.css` or separate `MediaWiki:PortableNavbox.css` [09:37:20] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Do i put this in the portable nav module or in the template? [09:42:16] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to yoav_1> no, in a .css page like legroom said [09:43:33] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> if it's loading specifically `MediaWiki:PortableNavbox.css`, then you need to make that page, otherwise in Common.css is fine [09:43:57] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> loading? [09:50:45] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> well i made the page in my wiki and copy pasted the code in [09:52:04] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> the portable navbox css one [09:52:15] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> currently seeing no changes [09:53:14] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to yoav_1> the commons.css page is site-wide, and sometimes a script or the like can load/call their own separate css page in its code [09:54:28] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> but that doesn't seem the case here <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> installation instuction is importing the portable css into commons [09:55:01] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to yoav_1> you can probably move that code to the `MediaWiki:Common.css` page [09:57:47] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Can I get a 2nd opinion on my main page/menu layout? [09:57:57] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Or should I just post [10:00:53] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1, replying to chimecrime> i did, no changes either [10:01:07] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1, replying to etherealtraveller> what does it look like? [10:01:30] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> This is what I have so far, does it feel too concise [10:01:34] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to yoav_1> give it a bit, css changes take a while [10:02:17] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic, replying to etherealtraveller> i think navigation would look better as a gallery [10:02:42] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1, replying to etherealtraveller> i think it works. though you might want to give a bit more colour to the page. [10:03:10] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> I'll keep that in mind [10:03:15] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> How does a gallery look like again [10:03:17] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> New to this stuff [10:04:36] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> a gallery of images [10:04:43] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic> with captions [10:05:01] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1, replying to chimecrime> i'll see tomorrow i suppose [10:05:28] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Something like this? [10:05:50] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> probably [10:05:52] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> yeah [10:06:14] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to yoav_1> it depends but shouldn't be more than like 5 mins, also might need to refresh your cache [10:06:43] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> i have no idea how to do that [10:06:57] <MirahezeRelay> <Generic, replying to etherealtraveller> yeah [10:07:08] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> I'll keep that in mind [10:07:19] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to yoav_1> ctrl+F5 or purge button near edit button [10:07:28] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I'd say wait 10 min [10:07:28] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> the info is on top of any css page also [10:08:34] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> yeah i tried that. it did nothing [10:08:43] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Another quick question, how do you change the logo in your wiki [10:09:29] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> also @yoav_1 just to be sure, you put the contents of that css page into your Commons.css right? [10:10:24] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> yes [10:11:10] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to etherealtraveller> `Special:ManageWiki/settings` page, Styling tab [10:12:10] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Gotcha [10:12:27] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> here [10:14:32] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to yoav_1> you should put this the contents of this https://dev.fandom.com/wiki/MediaWiki:PortableNavbox.css [10:15:03] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to etherealtraveller> upload image file first, preferable dimension is 135x135px [10:15:12] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1, replying to chimecrime> Ok [10:16:50] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Did I do it right [10:17:22] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to etherealtraveller> yes 👍 [10:17:34] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Ty ty, I assume it takes a while for the logo in the upper left corner to update? [10:17:43] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> I can already see the new favicon [10:18:56] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to etherealtraveller> if you're using cosmos skin the logo should go into `Icon ($wgIcon)` [10:19:19] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> What's a cosmos skin [10:19:27] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> only other thing that could make it not show up, other than cache [10:19:55] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> My logo pic is meant to just be a simple png file that my friend made for me [10:20:13] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to etherealtraveller> cosmos is just one skin, skins are the layout/appearance of the wiki [10:20:58] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> update on Wikimedia Commons images issue, the problem is upstream (from Wikimedia itself) [10:21:48] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Hm I see [10:21:54] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> So it'll eventually show up later on I presume [10:23:37] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> is the image bigger than 135x135px? [10:24:54] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Its 132x132 iirc [10:24:57] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> https://static.miraheze.org/rebalancetfwiki/e/e2/Rebalancetflogo.png [10:25:11] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Guess posting it doesn't really mean anything here [10:26:46] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Ah also is there a wiki rules list I can take inspiration from someone [10:26:57] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Was wondering what kinda rules I should set for my wiki [10:29:12] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> it depends on topic and what kind of community wiki will attract [10:30:35] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> for example, Pizza Tower Wiki has a tendency of attracting vandal kids [10:30:50] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> What are general rules in that case? My wiki is a niche game based one where I post/share fan ideas so people can do research and make their own fan ideas as well as serving as a platform for people to discuss these fan ideas [10:31:00] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> So being civil is definitely one of them, don't want people trash talking one another [10:44:00] <MirahezeRelay> <imogen__> hey everyone, what was that page again where you can view details about your mediawiki configuration settings and other info, like loaded extensions, etc? [10:49:38] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to imogen__> Special:Version [10:50:24] <MirahezeRelay> <username424242424242424242> how to change cosmos background colour last time i tried i nearly ruined wiki [11:02:07] <MirahezeRelay> <velvetbyrne> do we have an extension for page previews like in good ol' regular wikipedia [11:02:40] <MirahezeRelay> <velvetbyrne> And also a way to change the text to a logo đŸ€” [11:06:10] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to velvetbyrne> wdym? [11:06:32] <MirahezeRelay> <velvetbyrne> Like this [11:06:37] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to velvetbyrne> it depends on wiki's title/name, but you can use wordmark image as an alternative [11:07:28] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to velvetbyrne> [1/5] this thing is 3 extensions [11:07:28] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to velvetbyrne> [2/5] - pageimages [11:07:29] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to velvetbyrne> [3/5] - textextract [11:07:29] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to velvetbyrne> [4/5] - popups [11:07:29] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to velvetbyrne> [5/5] and I have no guarantee it's gonna work smoothly [11:07:53] <MirahezeRelay> <velvetbyrne> Ahh, I thought its 1 extension that regular wikipedia uses www [11:07:59] <MirahezeRelay> <velvetbyrne> I'll see first then [11:08:45] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> well it is, popups, but it depends on other 2 [11:52:43] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1, replying to chimecrime> i did, and it didn't do anything. [12:00:45] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> never mind it worked [12:28:43] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> for anyone who downloaded a fandom xml to import to miraheze, what does that file look like because to me i see a zipped folder and when I open it it's empty. Am i supposed to be seeing nothing? [12:32:07] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> nvm i think i fixed it. so it should just be a single .xml file right [12:40:42] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> my xml file is too large when requesting an import I guess I need to use phabricator? I don't really understand [12:45:46] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to theredhead43> you tried `Special:Import` (for single pages, unstable) or `Special:RequestImportDump` (actually designed for migrations) [12:47:17] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> I went to Special:Statistics and got the dump that said current pages and history [12:47:45] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> that was from fandom at least [12:47:54] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I'm asking were you get size error on Miraheze [12:48:00] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> ohhh [12:48:02] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> one sec [12:48:13] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> I went in requestimportdump [12:48:31] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> i get 413 request entity too large [12:48:36] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> huh [12:48:44] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> then yeah, gotta use phab [12:48:47] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> wait a sec [12:48:50] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> ok [12:49:06] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> i got a phab account but tbh ive no idea what to do from there [12:49:56] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> phab is usually used for image dump imports tho, as they tend to be large [12:50:23] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> i guess thats why my xml is so large [12:50:52] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> fandom doesn't provides images tho [12:50:55] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> so I should make 2 tasks? one for regular importing and one for images? [12:50:56] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> oh [12:51:20] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> only text w/ edit history, images had to be scrapped manually or w/ third party scripts [12:52:35] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> oof [12:53:10] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you can create import request which includes both xml and file dump [12:53:54] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> so I go to create a task? [12:54:15] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/3] here's task template btw [12:54:15] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/3] <https://phabricator.miraheze.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/18/> [12:54:16] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [3/3] you'll just need to add a link w/ files, like on google drive or mega, and note that's it's both types of dumps [12:54:39] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> there are 2 ways to scrap images from - a python 3 script and a node.js script [12:54:41] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> thank you! [12:54:51] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> are these image scrappers easyish to use? [12:56:09] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I want to say no because me and Python never got along and I used node.js method, but other folks here gonna start ridiculing me lol [12:57:10] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> i got it to mega yay so i just put the link in and all is good for the request? [12:57:23] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> yeah, will have to wait [12:57:41] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> still unusual to me that requestimport failed for you [12:58:03] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> the wiki gotta be very very old and bog to have heavy xml [12:58:12] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> its not old old but not new either [12:58:16] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> but it was about half a GB [13:07:51] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Dumb question but is there a way to import templates from other mediawikis to my own [13:08:06] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Mass importing at least [13:08:13] <MirahezeRelay> <username424242424242424242> is there way to port wiki from fandom to miraheze [13:08:21] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Feels like I need all the templates in the world the more I look at it [13:09:39] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1, replying to etherealtraveller> Yep [13:09:43] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Same here [13:13:21] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Is there a reason why even after i enabled the visual editor it doesn't really work? [13:14:20] <MirahezeRelay> <username424242424242424242> is it possible to port fandom wiki to miraheze ? [13:15:01] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Yesterday [13:15:17] <MirahezeRelay> <username424242424242424242, replying to yoav_1> how [13:15:22] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to yoav_1> the reason is that templates require TemplateData - another extension and additional piece of code, to work w/ VisualEditor [13:15:29] <MirahezeRelay> <username424242424242424242> i wasted 3 days on trying to copy and paste old wiki to miraheze one [13:15:42] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to username424242424242424242> dude [13:15:42] <MirahezeRelay> <username424242424242424242> and still made only 10 pages out of 205 [13:15:49] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> copy pasting is prohibited [13:15:52] <MirahezeRelay> <username424242424242424242> man [13:15:53] <MirahezeRelay> <username424242424242424242> i am creator [13:15:56] <MirahezeRelay> <username424242424242424242> of old wiki [13:16:02] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> it can get us in copyright trouble [13:16:17] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you should have made an xml dump w/ edit history [13:16:23] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> and then upload it [13:16:25] <MirahezeRelay> <username424242424242424242> ok i will try [13:16:27] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> on Miraheze [13:16:53] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> I'll activate it then it should work? [13:16:54] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> ok, even if you are creator who told you that you just have to copy paste [13:16:59] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> manually??? [13:17:19] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> all we do here in the past week is consulting on imports [13:21:56] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Ok i unlocked visual editor now [13:32:05] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/4] you should code it in templates [13:32:06] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/4] [[mw:Extension:TemplateData]] [13:32:06] <wm-bot> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TemplateData [13:32:06] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [3/4] but we simply suggest switching to source and copy pasting boiler plates, more on this here [13:32:06] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [4/4] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Legroom/Infoboxes#Miscellaneous> [13:32:07] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TemplateData> [13:32:27] <MirahezeRelay> <username424242424242424242> what do i put into interwiki thing [13:32:47] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to username424242424242424242> [1/2] read this, it works for all templates [13:32:47] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to username424242424242424242> [2/2] <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Legroom/Infoboxes#Taking_infobox_from_another_place> [13:32:54] <MirahezeRelay> <username424242424242424242, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> i mean [13:33:03] <MirahezeRelay> <username424242424242424242> i want to port wiki [13:33:05] <MirahezeRelay> <username424242424242424242> not a template [13:33:05] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> it says right there [13:33:13] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> it works for all pages [13:33:18] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> it's an import [13:33:51] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> BUT [13:33:53] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> again [13:34:08] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> man [13:34:48] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Moving_a_wiki_to_Miraheze [13:35:04] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I'm certainly sure all these pages are referenced in Meta Wiki FAQ [13:35:30] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I'm considering to take a wiki break soon tbh [13:35:48] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I'm not in a good condition [13:36:57] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> If you need a break you should take it [13:43:51] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> I was speedrunning through setting up my page and got 4 short pages done <:sad:718304766786011156> [13:44:02] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Decent progress on day 3 of my wiki I suppose [13:52:31] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1, replying to etherealtraveller> I spent today setting up the navbox [13:52:48] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow> sounds like some good progress [13:52:52] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> And with it i can start editing stuff for real [13:53:03] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1, replying to platyellow> It took me 6+ hours [13:53:29] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow> Damn, some very good progress then [13:53:45] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Thats very good? [13:54:17] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> My navbox was simple as hell [13:54:26] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Fancy navboxes are good looking though so <:PamThumbsUp:606252632339775572> [13:55:30] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> this is mine [13:55:32] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow, replying to yoav_1> Yes, if it takes a long time to set up, it'll be a very good addition to your project, I'm also British and we have a habit of underplaying injuries [13:55:40] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> It ain't done yet [13:55:49] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> But now its far easier to edit [13:57:08] <MirahezeRelay> <username424242424242424242> i got error 504 while trying to port wiki into miraheze [14:20:08] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> I'm getting some random 503's <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [14:24:55] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> I got those to [14:25:00] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> They stopped tho [14:25:01] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> yep we all are getting them rn [14:26:44] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Yup been getting them too periodically [14:26:46] <MirahezeRelay> <etherealtraveller> Times are hard [14:30:36] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> still happening? [14:31:50] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> not to me [14:37:06] <MirahezeRelay> <jph2, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> seems ok at the moment. there've been a couple periods, though. [15:06:39] <MirahezeRelay> <quent.sego> Hi, I have a little question. Do you know how to code this? [15:07:19] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> what is the og wiki? [15:09:49] <MirahezeRelay> <quent.sego, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> A wiki for my community and I need something similar. [15:10:51] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> That's a lot. A graph like that usually needs lua to be responsive to the pixel and the percentage of used-px/total-px [15:11:26] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to quent.sego> Can you provide the exact URL of the page that uses the graph? [15:11:33] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to quent.sego> [1/2] link [15:11:34] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to quent.sego> [2/2] templates can be imported but it depends [15:12:02] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> link to example [15:13:06] <MirahezeRelay> <quent.sego, replying to avengium> Yes [15:14:12] <MirahezeRelay> <quent.sego> Can't I send a link here? [15:14:18] <MirahezeRelay> <quent.sego> @avengium [15:14:31] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> gotta /auth w/ our bot [15:20:52] <MirahezeRelay> <quent.sego, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> What's the use? [15:21:01] <MirahezeRelay> <quent.sego> I don’t understand [15:22:16] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] just type `/auth` here [15:22:16] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] it's to prevent spammers [15:22:21] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Authentication of your Miraheze account [15:24:22] <MirahezeRelay> <quent.sego> I would do that on my pc then later. [15:29:16] <MirahezeRelay> <quent.sego, replying to avengium> https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Élections_gĂ©nĂ©rales_britanniques_de_2019 [15:42:10] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to quent.sego> Thanks for the link 👍 [15:45:01] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I can't check rn, I'm busy [15:46:23] <MirahezeRelay> <quent.sego, replying to avengium> Do you know how to put it on Miraheze [15:47:29] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> I can check later. Currently i'm on phone [15:49:35] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> is it possible to fix this issue [15:49:43] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> iirc one of the extensions is causing it [15:49:56] <MirahezeRelay> <han.0000> [1/2] looking at the template code is helpful in these cases: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Infobox_%C3%89lection [15:49:56] <MirahezeRelay> <han.0000> [2/2] the "bar" is just 2 HTML divs, and the color and width are set with the template parameters pourcentage and couleur. the up/down arrow is calculated using another template from pourcentage and pourcentage prĂ©. you can adapt these systems for your own wiki. it is not recommended to just import the whole infobox from wikipedia because they are severely difficult to use and maintain [15:50:39] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey, replying to kojobailey> HideSection [15:51:03] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> very useful extension, but doesn't have space between the buttons fsr [15:51:29] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> i don't suppose anyone's got a fix? [15:55:52] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Test [15:56:14] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to kojobailey> css maybe <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> can you link a page with it? [15:59:17] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> https://jojomodding.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Needs_Expansion [15:59:26] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> any page on this wiki [16:00:06] <MirahezeRelay> <lichmaster98, replying to rhinosf1> IRC relay test? [16:00:19] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Yes [16:08:36] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to kojobailey> [1/2] You need to write the code by hand to fix that. [16:08:36] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to kojobailey> [2/2] Sometimes is as easy as to writes spaces in the correct place [16:08:51] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> @kojobailey this is how it's supposed to look [16:09:10] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey, replying to chimecrime> is that what you see by default? [16:09:23] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> no, this is being hidden currently [16:09:37] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> [1/3] `.mw-editsection-divider { [16:09:37] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> [2/3] display: initial !important; [16:09:37] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> [3/3] }` [16:09:41] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> to show it again [16:10:22] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> interesting... [16:10:26] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> do you know what causes that? [16:10:32] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> for some reason a display: none; is being applied to it from vector [16:10:52] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> how do i access the vector page again [16:11:11] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> it's a URL i haven't memorised [16:11:25] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey, replying to chimecrime> this is the Miraheze vector? [16:11:34] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> this code is not something you put yourself, so probably from some extension [16:12:08] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> that's strange [16:12:11] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to chimecrime> you can put this code in MediaWiki:Common.css [16:12:27] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> what about Vector.css [16:12:32] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> works too [16:12:39] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> alr, thanks [16:12:51] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> btw, where can I find the CSS for extensions in general? [16:12:59] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> i didn't know extensions have modifiable CSS [16:13:23] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> all css things can be found with the inspect tool in your browser [16:13:56] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> so i've seen [16:13:57] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> some extensions have documentation, others not so much <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [16:14:06] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> ig i'll just search and pray then lol [16:16:31] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to chimecrime> I wonder if the "ve not available" refers to visual editor <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> you don't seem to have it [16:17:19] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Could be [16:18:03] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> i have the visual editor [16:18:15] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> the "edit" option just wasn't showing while the extension was broken [16:18:17] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> for whatever reason [16:18:45] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> yeah I only see edit source [16:18:56] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [1/2] I have another question that's just MediaWiki related: [16:18:56] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> [2/2] How do you have both numbered and named parameters in template parameters? [16:19:24] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> as in, have `{{{1}}}` and `{{{name}}}` be the same, for example [16:19:24] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b1 [16:19:44] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> so `{{Template|hello}}` and `{{Template|name=hello}}` do the same thing [16:19:44] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Template [16:20:10] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> i've seen the solution for this before, but i can't remember where [16:21:25] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> oh nvm found it [16:21:39] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> need to do `{{{1|{{{name}}}}}}` [16:21:39] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b1 [16:28:22] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to kojobailey> [1/3] Special:AllPages has index to every namespace. [16:28:22] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to kojobailey> [2/3] Putting MediaWiki: in the namespace selector shows you a list of every page people have created in that ns. [16:28:23] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to kojobailey> [3/3] This is useful to find pages you visited earlier. [16:30:47] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> is there a way to make MediaWiki links show up in the search bar too [16:31:45] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> Some MediaWiki pages can ve empty and don't appear in the list but i think pages with content should appear on the search [16:32:36] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to kojobailey> in namespace settings, I believe [16:34:33] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to kojobailey> That is one nestes inside the other [16:35:07] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> ManageWiki/extensions [16:41:00] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to kojobailey> Normally they do once you have “MediaWiki:” typed in [16:43:45] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> yeah, just not in this case [16:43:57] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> for whatever reason [16:44:25] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> fixed now [16:47:27] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> Is great to have that freedom to customize the settings [16:55:22] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to quent.sego> [1/2] I dont know how to put that on Miraheze. [16:55:22] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to quent.sego> [2/2] But try looking at this one: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:Pourcentage [16:56:17] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [1/4] that code is very light: [16:56:17] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [2/4] ```<includeonly>{{nts | {{safesubst:#if: {{{pad|}}} | {{decimals | 100{{safesubst:formatnum:{{{1|0}}}|R}}/{{safesubst:formatnum:{{{2|100}}}|R}} | {{{3|{{{pad}}}}}} }} | {{safesubst:#expr:100{{safesubst:formatnum:{{{1|0}}}|R}}/{{safesubst:formatnum:{{{2|100}}}|R}} round ({{{3|0}}}>=0)*{{{3|0}}}}}}} }} {{{%|%}}}/includeonly<noinclude> [16:56:17] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:nts_ [16:56:17] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [3/4] {{documentation}} [16:56:17] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:documentation [16:56:18] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [4/4] /noinclude``` [17:36:12] <MirahezeRelay> <.yowin> [1/2] It seems there is a lot of french people here (like me) [17:36:13] <MirahezeRelay> <.yowin> [2/2] just a shoutout [17:40:08] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> it seems [17:40:15] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> i don't know french [17:42:13] <MirahezeRelay> <.yowin, replying to avengium> You're not missing much stuff [17:45:09] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> self-deprecating comments are a classic, since you are french speaking 😄 [17:50:20] <MirahezeRelay> <.yowin, replying to avengium> You perfectly got it [17:57:56] <MirahezeRelay> <han.0000, replying to avengium> [1/13] ModĂšle:Pourcentage isn't used Infobox:Élection [17:57:57] <MirahezeRelay> <han.0000, replying to avengium> [2/13] the "progress bar" is specifically made with this snippet (called from ModĂšle:Élection/Candidate): [17:57:57] <MirahezeRelay> <han.0000, replying to avengium> [3/13] ```{{#if:{{{pourcentage|}}} [17:57:57] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23if:Template:%7b%7b%7bpourcentage [17:57:57] <MirahezeRelay> <han.0000, replying to avengium> [4/13] | <nowiki/> [17:57:57] <MirahezeRelay> <han.0000, replying to avengium> [5/13] {{!}}- [17:57:57] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:! [17:57:58] <MirahezeRelay> <han.0000, replying to avengium> [6/13] {{!}} colspan="4" style="border: 1px solid black; height:1em; position:relative;" {{!}} <span style="position:absolute; right:1px; text-shadow:1px 1px white, -1px 1px white, -1px -1px white, 1px -1px white;"><!-- [17:57:58] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:! [17:57:58] <MirahezeRelay> <han.0000, replying to avengium> [7/13] -->{{formatnum|{{{pourcentage|}}}}} %/span<div style="background:{{#if:{{{couleur|}}}|{{{couleur|}}}|#888}}; width:{{{pourcentage|}}}%; overflow:hidden;"> /div [17:57:58] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:formatnum [17:57:58] <MirahezeRelay> <han.0000, replying to avengium> [8/13] {{!}} style="text-align:right; font-size:80%; width:1px;" class="diffĂ©rence" {{!}} {{DiffĂ©rence | {{{pourcentage prĂ©|}}} | {{{pourcentage|}}} | arrondi = 1 }} [17:57:58] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:! [17:57:59] <MirahezeRelay> <han.0000, replying to avengium> [9/13] }} [17:57:59] <MirahezeRelay> <han.0000, replying to avengium> [10/13] ``` [17:57:59] <MirahezeRelay> <han.0000, replying to avengium> [11/13] this is another progress bar, which is slightly easier to understand: [17:58:00] <MirahezeRelay> <han.0000, replying to avengium> [12/13] ```<div style="border: 1px solid black; padding:1px; min-width:10em;"><div style="background: {{{couleur barres1|}}}; width: {{{pourcentage barres1|}}}%; overflow: hidden;"> /div/div``` [17:58:00] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bcouleur_barres1 [17:58:00] <MirahezeRelay> <han.0000, replying to avengium> [13/13] in both cases it's using template parameters to style HTML divs to have the right size and color. the first one has extra templates to calculate the difference in results between this election and the previous which then calls another template to give a little up/down icon. [18:04:39] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to han.0000> I think slightly easier is an understatement.. [18:07:53] <MirahezeRelay> <han.0000> you can count on wikipedia to require a degree in infobox-ology to understand their templates :p [18:18:10] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to han.0000> [1/2] thanks for this. I was trying to help @quent.sego . [18:18:10] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium, replying to han.0000> [2/2] If you can help Le SĂ©go with that technical difficulty, then I apreciate it [18:19:02] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [1/2] {{{pourcentage|}}} [18:19:02] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bpourcentage [18:19:02] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [2/2] has 3 bracket, so is a variable and not a template [18:19:15] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> template calls use {{ 2 brackets [18:24:29] <MirahezeRelay> <songngu.xyz> just installed mediawiki on my first virtual web server- [18:25:54] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> localhost, interesting [18:27:39] <MirahezeRelay> <futuresushi> Is there any extension that's well-suited for bulk-editing categories on already uploaded media? [18:28:05] <MirahezeRelay> <futuresushi> Or is that not really possible due to the way mediawiki stores its categories in the description [18:30:58] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> gotta use pywikibot or auto wiki browser [18:31:48] <MirahezeRelay> <futuresushi> sounds good thanks! [18:44:30] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [1/2] Why can't i view new pages older than a year here? [18:44:31] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [2/2] <https://tuscriaturas.miraheze.org/wiki/Especial:P%C3%A1ginasNuevas?namespace=3000&tagfilter=&username=&size-mode=min&size=&wpFormIdentifier=newpagesform&limit=100> [18:45:12] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [1/2] is there some managewiki setting i can set to view more? [18:45:13] <MirahezeRelay> <avengium> [2/2] I know i have 180 pages on that namespace [19:02:37] <MirahezeRelay> <the64thgamer> Anyone know why bullet lists under tabs break the first point? This started after the update to mediawiki but as far as I can tell its not CSS related like the other issues [19:03:28] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> adding an empty line before first point doesn't fix it? [19:03:49] <MirahezeRelay> <the64thgamer> nop [19:13:25] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to the64thgamer> huh, I see this on my wiki too, that's weird [19:13:42] <MirahezeRelay> <the64thgamer> <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [19:14:25] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> did find a bandaid solution `<br style="display:none">` [19:15:44] <MirahezeRelay> <the64thgamer> well considering all of my wikis navigation is done with tabbed bullet lists I don't think I can bandaid that lolol [19:18:43] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> first entry is treated as a <p> for some reason [19:21:41] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> really weird <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [19:24:13] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to songngu.xyz> Welcome to the club 🎉 [19:24:56] <MirahezeRelay> <songngu.xyz, replying to pixldev> it was just a part of introducing MW to my school as a part of my graduation project- [19:28:58] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to songngu.xyz> Holy that’s actually awesome [19:39:15] <MirahezeRelay> <songngu.xyz, replying to pixldev> (not really, in my entrie college, IT'S LITERALLY ONLY ME at least, having some interests with MW) [19:39:41] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Then your obvi the coolest person there [19:39:46] <MirahezeRelay> <songngu.xyz> nope [19:40:11] <MirahezeRelay> <songngu.xyz> my class are lazy af [19:40:31] <MirahezeRelay> <trigjegman, replying to futuresushi> I run all of my categories through my aboutfile template/module which means if I say have a major rename of a category, I only have to tweak the template itself [19:40:46] <MirahezeRelay> <trigjegman> extremely useful [19:41:22] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> yeah, I barely add categories manually [19:42:17] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> although when you want them to be complex, tying w/ templates is getting more complicated đŸ˜¶ [19:42:57] <MirahezeRelay> <trigjegman> My module version works slightly different than my template one so it just depends on wiki and coverage [21:51:57] <MirahezeRelay> <sudocode1> hi a user on my wiki has forgotten his password and doesn’t have an attached email, is there any way to recover the account? [21:52:15] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> sadly no [21:52:32] <MirahezeRelay> <sudocode1> ah 😔 thank you [21:54:38] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> @sudocode1 I used to make the calls, it's virtually 0. They are a few very exceptional cicrumstances where we can undeniably prove a link. [21:54:51] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> The standard is exceptionally high though [21:55:08] <MirahezeRelay> <sudocode1> can you elaborate? [21:57:25] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> @sudocode1 basically, the only times we've reset passwords / removed 2FA are where it's possible to unquestionably prove your identity. We've done it for users with NDAs because we know real life details and we've done it for users who we know have had some key based auth preset as a way to recover their account [21:57:40] <MirahezeRelay> <sudocode1> ohh ok [21:57:46] <MirahezeRelay> <sudocode1> i see [21:58:23] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> We've generally ruled access to things like discord / github to not be enough as we can't prove it's not compromised [21:58:47] <MirahezeRelay> <sudocode1> yeah the only thing he can prove is country [21:58:51] <MirahezeRelay> <sudocode1> so not enough [21:59:01] <MirahezeRelay> <sudocode1> thanks for your response though [21:59:18] <MirahezeRelay> <max20091, replying to sudocode1> if he uses static IP, he can prove using that [21:59:31] <MirahezeRelay> <sudocode1> i don’t think he is [21:59:35] <MirahezeRelay> <sudocode1> can check but strong doubts [22:00:07] <MirahezeRelay> <sudocode1> yeah he doesn’t [22:00:25] <MirahezeRelay> <max20091> đŸ€·â€â™‚ïž [22:00:33] <MirahezeRelay> <sudocode1> thanks tho [22:01:59] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to max20091> No [22:02:06] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> IP address is not enough [22:02:21] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> It doesn't prove you are the account holder [22:02:56] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> I can tell you now that I wouldn't have unlocked an account based on ip [22:03:23] <MirahezeRelay> <max20091> did someone fake static IP? [22:04:04] <MirahezeRelay> <max20091> theoretically impossible unless the owner of that static IP dropped then the other one take it [22:05:25] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> static ips are never really static [22:05:36] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> ISPs can reassign them anytime they’d like [22:05:54] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> Its not a secure method of authentication regardless [22:06:13] <MirahezeRelay> <max20091> oh, I forgot ISP can steal identity so that [22:06:36] <MirahezeRelay> <zppix> Just like a dynamic IP doesnt really mean it changes constantly either, you can keep the same dynamic ip for a long time, just depends on how its handled [22:16:38] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> @max20091 the standard of proof is reasonable doubt and the burden is on the requestor [22:16:48] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> We will generally use all available evidence too [22:16:58] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> It's a very high standard to meet [22:17:11] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> moral of the story - always attach email [22:17:38] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> remember that time some funny dude tried to compromise other guy's account? [22:17:40] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Like unless you have a committed identity, ssh key or we know you in real life - it ain't happening [22:18:01] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Or another account we can be very sure isn't compromised [22:18:22] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Something like wikimedia shell access with a yubikey [22:18:45] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Or someone very trusted knowing you in real life [22:23:36] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> committed identify? [22:25:24] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> also for the average user the best bet would be to add a SHA Key to their user page? [22:25:43] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1, replying to pixldev> Look on Wikipedia, but a sha256 (or stronger) key of a phrase [22:25:53] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> And then you give the phrase when you want it unlocking [22:25:56] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> An [22:26:03] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> It should be a decent phrase as well [22:26:05] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> So what I was thinking just different name [22:26:11] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Like something only you would know [22:26:21] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> Entire Bee Movie script [22:26:26] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Nope [22:26:33] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> aw man [22:26:37] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> That's not something only you would know [22:27:21] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> so like random string of characters or like the name of some random building or like 15 random words from the dictionary [22:28:30] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> First, depends, potentially not. Random building, just the name of a building wouldn't be no. Multiple random dictionary words of an appropriate length - again maybe [22:29:37] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Ideally something like real name? [22:30:31] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> gonna keep coming up with random shit [22:30:49] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> I would prefer it be something personal [22:31:13] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Like another email account you have, your mobile number, name of a family member [22:31:30] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> And a random phrase in there [22:31:46] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> your first original character bio [22:31:54] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> I'm not going to say what we'd accept though [22:32:00] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Oh email account, assuming a different one then the one on your account [22:32:31] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> Yes, not the linked one [22:32:54] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> 1) saying what we'd accept would tell someone who wants to social engineer an account what to do [22:33:08] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> 2) it's very much based on the circumstances [22:33:37] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> when in doubt just real name and these are a good bet [22:33:40] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> We have accounts linked to governments and international organisations. You do not know nor want to know what a state actor could do. [22:33:58] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> o_0 [22:34:21] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> If you use your real name and say it's your actual name, don't be surprised if you get ID'd anyway [22:34:32] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Hmv [22:35:12] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> If you did "I am John Smith and today is blah. Some nonsense phrase" as your secret. [22:35:21] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> I would ask you for ID to prove that's your name [22:35:31] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> ah makes sense [22:37:24] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> I am serious when I say we will use all available evidence [22:37:49] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> The burden of proof is on the requestor and we will assume it's a malicious request [22:38:07] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> Thats a smart policy [22:38:15] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> It's policy for a reason [22:39:04] <MirahezeRelay> <rhinosf1> There have been many cases in the news where mobile companies have unlocked accounts of high profile people for malicious actors [22:42:36] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> MUCH better to be safe then sorry [22:42:47] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Thanks Rhinos [22:48:55] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel> And for most average joe's loosing a wiki account really is not end of the world either [22:50:29] <MirahezeRelay> <superkirbylover> to be fair i don't think most of us are average joes //shot [22:59:30] <MirahezeRelay> <gummiel, replying to superkirbylover> Yes the VAST majority of people here would be average joes in this context [23:07:11] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> yea [23:43:16] <MirahezeRelay> <platyellow, replying to superkirbylover> Am trying to figure out how to setup a domain, am less-than-average joe [23:43:51] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> We’re all insane