` [18:21:44] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to .yowin> I don't think you can style portable infoboxes that way <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [18:22:29] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> probably have to give the title its own class, then use that in common,css [18:25:04] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> oh there's the .pi-title class too [18:25:40] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1129200586508734547.webp?size=48&name=JoshuRizz&quality=lossless [18:25:43] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> speaking of which [18:25:49] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> how do we see all the default `pi` classes [18:26:14] <MirahezeRelay> <kojobailey> how do we see a list of all the default `pi` classes [18:28:01] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to kojobailey> Think fandom has docs [18:28:25] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Infoboxes/CSS [18:28:47] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> yeah was going to link that too haha [18:28:52] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> your only hope for such things is documentation [18:29:12] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> No [18:29:42] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> if wanting a specific list I mean 🤷 [18:29:44] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Inspect element [18:29:47] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev, replying to chimecrime> Oh [18:29:50] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> Yeah mb [19:55:35] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> any idea why the space between the frame and affiliation isn't filled with info? [19:56:32] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> because i did fill that out [20:04:20] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to yoav_1> it's because you have `sphere` and `type` capitalized [20:05:46] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Huh [20:05:54] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Alright [20:08:50] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> also idk if this is intentional, but the second one is what it displays as, if you do want to capitalize that [20:10:32] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Will do [20:11:49] <MirahezeRelay> <yoav_1> Done [20:12:34] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> nice <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [22:03:05] <MirahezeRelay> <tombricks> How far does `Miraheze offers private wikis in addition to public ones. Uses include for internal documentation, personal notes, private communities and more.` apply? Like, if I wanted a private wiki to document my actual IRL life and the people that I know, would that be included? Or would that fall too far from the purposes of Miraheze [22:35:43] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> does anyone have a good infobox template? im not sure if XML import will carry that over and im trying to make a page just to test things out [22:36:14] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> you can Special:Import templates from Fandom, they tend to be simple [22:36:21] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> oh [22:36:33] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> like Portable Infobox ones (requires extension to be enabled) [22:36:57] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> more about infobox here [[User:Legroom/Infoboxes]] [22:36:57] <wm-bot> https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Legroom/Infoboxes [22:36:58] <MirahezeRelay> <Wiki-Bot> <https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Legroom/Infoboxes> [22:37:58] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> im gonna import from fandom [22:38:14] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> im just unsure how to bring it over [22:38:49] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> I've explaned on that page too [22:39:03] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> also templates are included in xml dump [22:39:17] <MirahezeRelay> <theoneandonlylegroom> if you meant to import from your wiki [22:39:54] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> oh i got it exported [22:39:57] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> i think [22:40:11] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> so Iterwiki prefix would be infobox right? [22:41:03] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime, replying to theredhead43> the interfix in import is for what wiki it's from [22:41:13] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> oh [22:41:28] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> so its fandom [22:41:41] <MirahezeRelay> <chimecrime> yeah [22:43:02] <MirahezeRelay> <theredhead43> oh it works! thank you i am learning a lot :p [23:16:37] <MirahezeRelay> <jackuzzi> /auth [23:56:49] <MirahezeRelay> <pixldev> I need to stop looking at the Pizza tower wiki theres so much cool css shit

[00:11:03] What do the CSS/JS support volunteer role actually mean <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [00:11:42] People who can help with css/js questions [00:13:51] Do admins just give out the role or is it applied for?(am not asking for it i sux at js and css just curious) [00:14:26] Usually people just ask for it [00:15:01] Its usually granted within reason, unless its fairly obvious the person wouldnt be able to actually help with questions [00:25:16] ah thx [00:25:40] maybe ill ask one day when i dont break down at the site of css and can understand JavaScript [01:39:05] (if anyone would like to hit me with it, I like to think I get around css fairly well) [01:59:38] i like to think i am very good with css but admittedly i can be quite busy [02:18:11] i'm doing voice fancasting for my fantasy wiki [02:18:15] its sm fun [02:36:59] [1/3] Is there a way to export data from a Fandom wiki if the admins are inactive? Some folks I know are trying to figure out how to move a wiki with about 700 pages off Fandom, but there are no active admins and we don't want to "adopt" the wiki because that would mean Fandom would watch it closely for awhile. [02:37:00] [2/3] Fandom says you can "request" a data dump from them, but does that actually work or is it a trap like requesting a wiki to be closed? [02:37:00] [3/3] https://support.fandom.com/hc/en-us/articles/360026387674-Where-can-I-find-database-dumps- [04:20:12] You would probably want to use Special:Export using the list from Special:AllPages instead, but try to divide the pages up into groups to reduce risk of error when importing to miraheze. Database dumps are not a trap but only admins can request them so you couldn't do it anyways [05:07:22] third party scrapper, I'd in current fandom climate is better to not let them know of data dump requests [05:10:08] it wasn't a risk before tho? since fandom doesn't make backups like miraheze just in case, it's a measure of safety [05:11:14] its wild to me they don't have backups [05:12:15] bear in mind that the request also gives only xml dump, you'll have to use scrapper for images and other files anyway [05:12:27] or don't, save files manually xd [05:14:23] I mean I would be very surprised if they don't have any AT ALL, in case their servers actually go down or something like that. If they are willing to give those backup to anyone that is not a fandom staff member is ofc another qeustion [05:15:32] I'm not saying they need to have constant ones but like you'd think they'd at least do a monthly one or a quarterly one or something [05:16:42] https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Fandom [05:21:11] oh god i forgot about the queer wikis debacle [05:21:18] kinda surprised that hasnt been brought up more [05:26:46] Is there one you'd recommend? [05:27:22] I did in my tumblr masterpost I made in August lol [05:28:17] names are pinned here 👀 [05:52:05] Interwiki requests are completed if Joseph responds right [05:52:38] Or is it when he reacts to a post [11:02:34] usually response, you can check the Special:Interwiki page on your wiki to see if it was added [11:02:42] Sure [11:02:58] And ty <:PamThumbsUp:606252632339775572> [12:59:50] how long does it usually take for a phabricator request to be done (specifically for an XML import that was too large to fit in the main import request dump)? [13:08:48] No real estimated time, SRE is very understaffed and handle requests as soon as they are able to. [13:09:25] They try to make sure its within a reasonable timeframe, however [13:11:20] thanks 🙂 [13:11:45] Plus MacFan been doing them like I wish I could do my homework [13:13:03] Lol i hated homework when I was in school, god that feels like that was a million years ago when it was only almost 5 years ago I graduated High School lol [13:13:49] I am still very much a prisoner of the education system [13:14:14] i have been released from that prison now im just in the prison of capitalism [13:14:23] I did college for a semester but I decided not to finish [13:15:01] I'm so glad shit is behind ... [13:16:20] I was gonna get my Associates in the Arts in Computer Science, but general education classes i was told I had to do (they wanted me take psych or sociology for a CS degree) felt more like a money grab so i said screw it [13:16:44] A year ago seems like a long time [13:17:25] Only thing I regret was not getting a Security+ certification when I had the chance [13:18:11] Well actually 17 months now [13:18:46] Certifications are always good [13:19:22] I’ve debated using benefits I get with my current job to go get Sec+ and system related certification [13:20:55] <.yowin> Hello there, just a question, but the color changing with the cosmos skin is quite broken no ? [13:21:48] No [13:22:08] how you add them? [13:22:19] so you get completely broken styling after seyying up? [13:23:44] <.yowin, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] Manage Wiki Settings -> Style [13:23:44] <.yowin, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] And even with everything turned into black I still have my "edit wikicode" button in white [13:29:21] does everything else work fine for you? there's a chance the edit button is just not included [13:30:38] <.yowin, replying to chimecrime> It turned into black as well, after refreshing and clearing cache multiple times but, the hell [13:32:34] <.yowin> and my toolbar turned into red but with a white gradient ??? (I tested what settings = what part of the skin by turning in red) [13:34:32] a weird default maybe <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [13:36:27] you can always fine-tune stuff with some css [13:38:16] <.yowin> [1/2] I guessed that yeah, that will be my next adventure [13:38:16] <.yowin> [2/2] Delete the white gradient of the toolbar [13:45:40] <.yowin> Okay it seems that the cosmos skin used in Miraheze is not the most recent one, there is a "master" version more updated, and the one we have have issues with style settings.... [14:00:35] [1/10] is this fine for changing a wiki's font (`Common.css`)? [14:00:35] [2/10] ```css [14:00:36] [3/10] @font-face { [14:00:36] [4/10] font-family: 'Roboto', sans-serif; [14:00:36] [5/10] src: url('https://fonts.googleapis.com/css2?family=Roboto&display=swap'); [14:00:36] [6/10] } [14:00:37] [7/10] body { [14:00:37] [8/10] font-family: 'Roboto', sans-serif; [14:00:37] [9/10] } [14:00:38] [10/10] ``` [14:00:56] at least, the `body` text of a wiki [14:01:10] yes [14:03:38] what's with this funky error [14:03:55] also, is it possible for me to preview imported fonts using inspect element [14:04:13] that's not an error, just a warning [14:04:18] yeah, wait a sec [14:04:46] if you use firefox, like this [14:05:05] insert that code w/ google import [14:05:24] hm ok [14:05:40] also, the CSS has updated in the inspect panel [14:05:50] but the font remains the same on display [14:05:55] just default `sans-serif` [14:06:27] I think it's better to apply per big element than `body` [14:06:46] or slap `!important` on it, but no guarantee it'll work [14:06:59] correctly [14:07:10] <.yowin> maybe you have to write `sansserif`, don't know if it will help tho I had that issue yesterday [14:08:17] i imported it manually with inspect, and it seems to be working fine [14:08:26] i guess it's just a delay issue with `Common.css` [14:09:59] yeah lol it's so delayed [14:10:06] i changed the font to this like 10 minutes ago [14:10:15] if not more [14:10:33] and now i've changed it to something else, so i guess i'll just wait for it to eventually update [14:11:32] oh oh another question [14:11:42] how do i make the search case insensitive [14:12:44] yeah sadly it's always like that w/ css and js [14:14:23] also also also [14:14:37] where can i find the special MediaWiki-specific CSS things [14:14:42] like, apparently `.mw-body-content` is a class [14:14:49] that's for all mediawiki body content [14:15:24] there are not complete lists of classes/id's [14:15:42] or such kind of guides, unless for portable infobox to my knowledge [14:15:59] everyone pin point stuff w/ inspector [14:16:21] as I did this several times already trough years, I use my older css as references [14:16:31] starting point I mean [14:16:40] then fix along the way [14:17:28] how do you edit a skin? I like the monobook as the default for the wiki as im experimenting but I wanna customize itbut have no idea what to do and how <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [14:18:04] well, that's what the convo is about [14:18:24] oh [14:18:31] see i cant read in smart language [14:19:16] as there are no ready references or lists the way is to right click on element you want to change, click on element inspector, then navigate trough and poke around the styling in web tools console thing you get [14:19:37] where is element inspector? [14:19:39] I can link my Vector.css as reference [14:20:23] ohhh that inspect [14:20:45] Also I think at least some of the classes and id's might change depending on the specific skin used, so even if someone were to try and make such list, even for a single skin it would be a HUGE list, making one that encompass all skins would be astronimical in size [14:20:52] how do you apply it then? [14:20:55] you'll need so basic knowledge of html and css for that, plenty of free tutorials online like w3schools [14:21:48] [1/2] absolutely [14:21:49] [2/2] before 1.40 update I had to keep headings' styling separetely in timeless and vector, after update I moved and merged them into common [14:26:07] [1/5] you need to dermine what changes to css you are making, then add these modification to css page [14:26:07] [2/5] there are several types [14:26:08] [3/5] - `MediaWiki:Common.css` applies on desktop mode, no matter which skin is used; it's usually used for templates, adding fonts, modifying elements which are same in the core across all skin [14:26:08] [4/5] - skin specific pages, for example `MediaWiki:Vector.css` (for new version `MediaWIki:Vector-2022.css`), since all skins have different layout and thus different elements and behaviour [14:26:08] [5/5] - `MediaWiki:Mobile.css` - only this css will work in mobile mode, if you use mobile frontend extension [14:27:31] [1/2] here's my vector.css (note that some parts are in common.css, like font and headings) [14:27:31] [2/2] [14:28:24] i guess you pay to make it .wiki right? [14:31:11] yeah, custom domain had to be bought [14:31:32] I got lucky that prominent commuinity memebers stepped in [14:31:49] as I there was no way to buy one for me [14:35:26] more on this here [[Custom domains]] [14:35:26] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Custom_domains [14:35:27]

[14:38:56] ooh that's a neat hover effect [14:41:19] why's that? [14:41:25] surely someone's made one at some point [14:42:00] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [14:42:09] there's for portable infobox [14:42:14] I haven't seen for skins [14:42:45] it would probably be a lot of work to maintain too, and all the skin variations <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [14:42:48] I guess not many wikis actually go so far in modifying skins, and when they do they don't bother to create such guides and stuff [14:42:53] that too [14:43:29] even in my fandom days I'd check css on other big estabilished wikis as starting point [14:43:49] I barely used guides [14:46:01] Gonna have to reread this later when I find time to work on modding Nyctopedia’s skin [14:46:16] Muchas gracias Legroom [14:47:35] like, another, most recent example - I took light icons from indie Zelda Wiki + css code for them [14:48:04] I realized they use Timeless for mobile mode and that's exactly what I need for my Gigantic Wiki, which is fully on Timeless [14:48:33] icon files are in public domain, I credited ZW in files and css anyway [14:52:18] can someone help me make something like this for my wiki? [14:52:59] btw can you import files the way you can import pages? or do you have to upload them yourself <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [14:54:45] With a dump? Yeah [14:54:51] [1/2] I haven't tought about it <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [14:54:51] [2/2] but looking at full import, in XML you will have just `File:` pages w/o files [14:55:01] and files are uploaded separetely [14:55:02] talking about small scale stuff like icons [14:55:08] Ah [14:55:37] oh true, I see [14:56:12] That looks fire [14:56:47] [1/2] depends on skin [14:56:47] [2/2] if you use Cosmos then at `MediaWiki:Cosmos-navigation`, for other skins it's `MediaWiki:Sidebar` [14:59:30] alright [14:59:47] how can i find what skin im using? because i have no clue [15:00:33] Special:ManageWiki/settings page, styling tab [15:00:44] thanks [15:01:01] For your currently selected skin also your preferences page [15:03:45] but wouldn't `mw-body-content` work across all skins [15:03:54] there's nothing to indiciate it only works with classic vector [15:05:32] Does Mira have an adoption policy? [15:06:42] yeah but I forgot page's name [15:09:50] well i found the page to edit [15:10:10] but when i do it doesn't connect to the right page [15:11:13] @kojobailey for mw-body-content maybe, but look at this for example, you can't always tell [15:12:39] some skin could be doing it slightly different just because [15:17:04] <.yowin> new question, what is the right form in Phabricator to request a lot of images import ? [15:38:27] what's #interwiki-requests for again [15:40:38] [1/2] to request an interwiki [15:40:39] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Interwiki [15:42:03] oh [15:42:04] eh [15:42:08] is there any benefit to this [15:42:15] easier way to link to another wiki [15:42:18] besides the shorter link [15:42:23] because you can just use templates for that [15:43:18] can also transclude pages from that wiki I suppose [15:43:29] fair enough ig [15:48:15] no externall link icon [15:48:31] unless you hide it for external links via css [15:49:03] I think even non-wiki sites can work w/ interwiki? [15:51:34] Can someone help me make a character infobox template? [15:53:16] [1/2] Similar to this. [15:53:17] [2/2] https://ave-xia-rem-y.fandom.com/wiki/Template:Xianxia_Character [15:53:30] Because when i tried it didn't really work [15:53:38] What am i missing? [15:53:50] it's a portable infobox [15:53:58] you need to enable extension [15:54:01] anyway [15:54:09] [[User:Legroom/Infoboxes]] [15:54:09] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Legroom/Infoboxes [15:54:09]

[15:54:38] Oh [15:55:01] Alright [15:55:05]