[00:01:21] Whats the timetable for import requests (fandom to miraheze) on Phabricator? [00:34:57] how do i change the background of the wiki (the dark grey) again [00:38:58] I used the Cosmos theme [00:39:06] and then went into the settings for it [00:39:33] another question [00:39:49] is this a bug or did i do this [00:39:58] [00:39:59] uhh [00:40:07] that looks like a browser error [00:40:12] or an internet problem [00:40:17] guh [00:40:32] btw i go here right [00:40:43] is the image link correct or [00:40:55] looks fine [00:41:07] it may take a while to show up though [00:41:11] mine took 30 mins [00:41:15] i see [00:50:11] supposedly this is a bug with the cosmos background color setting, try removing the color [00:51:16] this is missing the `https://` [00:52:19] other pages are fixed but main page is still like that [00:53:02] ok there we go [00:56:37] @chimecrime is this even possible or should I just put a tabber in each box [00:57:08] I’m trying to get each tabber option to show up across the entire column [01:26:44] I haven't really seen that on any wiki so idk <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [01:39:14] I guess its not the ugliest thing in the world [01:39:17] <:standguardcat:1131414143451267242> [01:40:25] Hi staff [01:41:17] My wiki zhinternetpedia.miraheze.org can help me change to zhipedia.miraheze.org ? [01:41:47] Thanks [01:42:53] wouldn't it be better to make more rows so you don't need tabs? <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> another thing you can do tab-wise is making the info part a tabbed table inside that table, but would be a bit difficult to align them with the rows [01:44:08] I already all time but not staff re me. [01:44:25] too many [01:44:26] it gets messy [01:46:33] maybe if I auto collapse the info column somehow [02:59:04] In addition to what already been said of extensions specifically for it, Portable infobox also have some tags for it, built in, that allows tabs inside the infoboxes build with it (a combination of and
tags if I remember correct) [03:05:48] hmm [03:19:55] [1/2] Hmm, with the variables extension or some template trickery, it may also be possible to have multiple copies of the same table (with different version(s) of the columns) inside tabs. I can't think of a nice way to do it that wouldn't involve some fugly code though. [03:19:56] [2/2] Other than that, maybe take a look at for decluttering the table a bit? [03:25:36] this is what I came up with [03:25:55] not horrible [03:27:11] Hi! I want to import a wiki dump to Miraheze but it seems like I am having issues with logging into phabricator using my Miraheze account [03:27:15] is there an alternative? [03:29:08] Normally we prefer import requests to go through if possible. Though, if you do need to access phabricator, click the "Login with MediaWiki" button at the bottom right of the login screen. You'll use that instead of your username and password. The page [[Phabricator]] has some more information if you need it. [03:29:08] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phabricator [03:29:09] [03:30:04] Looks pretty good, can't say I have any ideas that would look better :) [03:31:13] no idea why its making the edges look like that though [03:31:18] or why I can't center the tabber [03:36:35] probably via css [03:42:37] Hi, for the source wiki do we fill in the original wiki it's exported from or the wiki we're importing to [03:42:52] Because if it's the former, the wiki was closed down earlier today [03:45:32] Original wiki is where it is from, if it's closed, that should be fine too. [03:45:43] Void do you happen to know the threshold required content wise so that Miraheze doesn't begin deleting the page in 60 days since the dormancy policy is vague on that regard [03:46:29] Is it measured by the size of the page or the amount of pages? [03:47:40] Are you asking about the 0 contributions clause or the exemptions clause? [03:48:39] Exemptions [03:50:16] My situation is that I have some level of content (15-125 kb, 25+ pages) and some templates [03:51:19] But as my wiki is a one man project, there's a chance I may go on an indefinite hiatus and I'd like to know how much more I need to get done to ensure my wiki isn't deleted when I go on a hiatus [03:52:44] Ah, in that case, it's generally a case-by-case type thing. Typically though, I personally just check to make sure the wiki isn't empty and actually contains some pages of relevant content (25+ should be enough, I'm pretty sure I've granted an exemption to a wiki with less). [03:53:42] Are exemptions permanent (I don't have to check in and refresh with staff)? [03:57:17] Permanent by default. I'm pretty sure the only temporary exemption we have expired like 2 years ago, and is still up. [03:59:23] Good to hear, I appreciate the info [03:59:25] <:PamThumbsUp:606252632339775572> [04:12:48] how do i make it so body only targets mw-content? [04:15:05] just make the selector #mw-content instead of body [04:19:33] how do i do that agan [04:20:54] did you make that body * rule? [04:21:41] its miraheze [04:22:10] if it's default then you can't change it, only overwrite it [06:31:57] [1/2] Does any of the Tab extensions allow for a picture file to be on the tab heading? [06:31:57] [2/2] AFAIK Tabber(Neue) doesn't [06:49:08] [1/2] it never was an option for all 4 versions of tabbers I knew [06:49:08] [2/2] when I wanted to this on Fandom, I had to ask some guy to make a js script (it's broken now after 2021 updates) [06:51:16] [1/3] fellas, question [06:51:16] [2/3] if wiki name is changed, do all project namespaces pages get updated prefix automatically? [06:51:16] [3/3] and what would happen if they are used in MediaWiki pages, like MediaWiki:Mainpage? has to be changed manually? [06:55:39] [1/2] IIRC, internally, the project namespace is literally Project:, but is aliased to the sitename (although at an even deeper level, the namespace of a page is stored as a numeric id, changing the displayed name of the namespace will automatically reflect on all pages in that namespace, but not links to those pages). If the sitename is changed, any links using it will need to be updated ( [06:55:40] [2/2] unless you add the old name as an alias). [06:56:24] I see, thanks [08:08:03] how do i give people administrator permissions on my wiki [08:15:21] [1/2] click on their username/open their user page [08:15:21] [2/2] in toolbar must be "Change user groups" link [08:16:58] kthx [08:24:01] i dont see administrator [08:25:11] you have to be a bureaucrat to apoint new admins [08:25:23] if you are an admin/sysop, you can't [08:26:28] i am a bureaucrat [08:26:31] or at least im very sure [08:27:05] have you changed someting in permissions settings? [08:27:17] ill try [08:27:40] no, I mean [08:27:55] if you did before you could mess up something w/ bureau [08:28:21] it's not recomended to change bureau and sysop [09:55:36] anyone here used node.js scrapper? [09:55:52] first time I tried it worked flawlessly [09:56:04] now I keep getting code errors from Windows [10:39:09] I keep getting `Cannot find module 'nodemw'` when I've run `npm install nodemw` several times already [10:41:25] is there like a guide out there for licensing on images? [10:41:59] how to apply licenses? [10:42:08] or in general how licenses work? [10:42:58] both i think [10:43:16] oh well i guess the first one falls under the second [10:43:20] but yeah [10:43:53] like at the moment when i upload an image, no licensing options are there [10:46:24] you need to create license (note like) templates, then set them up on MedisWiki:License page [10:47:05] ah [10:47:24] [1/3] example [10:47:24] [2/3] [10:47:24] [3/3] [10:48:51] also, should I go by US fair use, or UK fair dealing [10:48:53] i was confused on that [10:49:00] thanks [10:49:47] Miraheze is currently UK based but will be reincorporated into US soon [10:49:53] Why can't I use the "Insert" button it drives me nuts [10:49:59] wdym [10:50:22] is it permitted for blocking at first place to fjattar (they didn't snap)'s haters before someone even contributed it? [10:50:34] so im guessing i should go for fair use then? [10:51:10] I slapped both just in case lol [10:51:19] hm, okay [10:51:24] I want to add an infobox [10:52:15] [1/2] I suggested you leave a message on [[SN]] [10:52:15] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SN [10:52:16] [2/2] I just can't tell how soon a steward will be able to check out [10:52:16] [11:56:45] [1/2] I'm curious, is it possible to have a text indicator on a wiki displaying a user hasn't confirmed their email yet? [11:56:46] [2/2] in the most basic of terms it would be something like this: `{{#ifeq: $wgEmailAuthentication|true|email verified|email not verified, check inbox}}` [11:56:46] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23ifeq:Template:_%24wgEmailAuthentication [12:41:31] Most possibly not in wikitext like here, no. But I think it could be possible in JS? Someone more in the know should confirm though [12:42:35] You can see variables accessible from wikitext here [[mw:Help:Magic_words]] [12:42:35] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words [12:43:30] https://m.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words/en [12:43:34] Bot is being sleepy [12:44:41] I installed it manually into folder and still get the error ... [13:40:13] what is the best way to find people to contribute to my wiki? [13:42:58] [1/2] no easy answer here [13:42:58] [2/2] advertise the wiki in communities on other platforms related to subject of the wiki, like reddit, other discord servers, tumblr tags, rtc [13:43:04] [1/2] Likely dependes what your wiki is about. [13:43:04] [2/2] If its a game people that play the game could be a guess. [13:44:29] [1/5] I need a couple of "fixes" about this template [13:44:29] [2/5] https://picross.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:New_Infobox_Game [13:44:29] [3/5] (Don't fret about its shape, it's supposed to be a horizontal version of the typical infoboxes, standing of the top of the article page) [13:44:30] [4/5] 1. I want the (page title) to completely cover the first row. (Nope, trying to merge them on VE didn't work.) [13:44:30] [5/5] 2. To make the whole box itself align to center. (Obv "Float" has no use here) [13:48:51] For the top row, you need a bigger value of colspan [13:49:17] Since the lower rows also have a colspan of 2, there is more columns in total [13:49:24] 4 I think will work here [13:49:53] Also, please only use source mode for templates, it will make your life easier once you learn to use it [13:51:32] [1/2] Inkipedia forced Timeless to have sidebar on the left thus making it look like Vector on desktop (in fact this is just Timeless layout under 1340px) [13:51:32] [2/2] it's basically trad wiki layout w/ nicer buttons and zero worry about mobile compability, man, I def gonna do this on my wikis (while still offering restyled Vector as option) [13:53:10] although less space for background image [13:53:11] the problem is that it has no content [13:53:17] almost no content [13:53:28] what the subject? [13:53:34] transgender people and community [13:53:53] isn't there an LGBTQ+ wiki on miraheze already? [13:54:11] although [13:54:18] I guess the recipe is the same [13:54:21] yes... [13:54:24] go around w/ your idea [13:54:32] but i want this wiki to be unique [13:54:35] That's so nice. Is it a skin option or has to be done per wiki? [13:54:37] someone might get interest in contributing [13:54:43] CSS [13:54:49] i have to write some articles first [13:55:52] @xenareee Thanks. And what about the alignment? [13:56:27] I want to stick the template to the center [13:56:57] I'll have to look on pc since I'm on mobile rn. Quick idea though, could you try adding
/center tags around the whole table and previewing? [13:57:49] (very cool wiki subject, I love picross! <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711>) [14:00:36] [1/2] Wow, it worked. The only thing I wasn't expecting was the center alignment having a whole tag for. 🤨 [14:00:36] [2/2] BTW thx [14:01:24] It's an odd tag that isn't used much anymore. You could get the same result by wrapping it with a div that has some centering styling, but I find it more readable [14:06:06] the equivalent would probably be
[14:06:20] because iirc center is deprecated [14:06:26] Yeah iirc [14:09:06] Not sure how long it takes for a html tag to be dropped entirely (will probably work for a long time still) but if you're worried about that, use what Furina said [14:10:43] [1/5] Thx for appreciating [14:10:43] [2/5] I have the same issue of @Exdetransitioner about my wiki (but I don't mind it) -- I mostly doing it one-man-band, and the wiki is a bounce off from nest to nest (FANDOM -> Gamepedia - absorbed by FANDOM -> Miraheze). Heck, the FANDOM one is left intact cuz it garnered a few contributors and seemingly there is a policy there preventing moving it over 🙂 [14:10:43] [3/5] My ultima goal was joining NIWA but now I'm a bit deviated of it -- cuz my target is the WHOLE genre, but it's now turned into a messy "PLOT" (WP:NOT lingo) , i.e. a listathon. [14:10:44] [4/5] I may find someone to fork the "Picross series" part of it as a NIWA-joiner, but not myself cuz since I live in 🇮🇷, I can AFFORD but not REDEEM a .wiki domain [14:10:44] [5/5] Btw it was a short story of my wiki 😂, thx for appreciation again [14:10:49] [1/2] Hi, some cateories on my wiki are listed as paes. I think is a backend issue. [14:10:49] [2/2] Can someone run a php script to fix this issue [14:11:28] hey, i admire one-man wikis. i may not know much about your community or topic, but keep up the good work good sir [14:12:42] when hyperfixation so strong [14:13:11] I had to direct my info hoarding somewhere lol [14:14:08] what information though [14:15:01] if it's about your wiki guides, maybe you could create a separate wiki just for those? just a suggestion off the top of my head [14:15:08] severaly underrated band, in my case, I started the wiki alone on fandom and managed to get it deleted because of how niche it was lol [14:15:13] oh [14:15:17] still managing alone [14:15:22] Soft Cell? [14:15:25] ye [14:15:55] One-man can be tough but there's some freedom in setting and changing the rules whenever you please when there's no one else [14:15:58] the musical guy is s-especially underrated and I'm his biggest fan 😂 [14:16:14] Did it attract anyone else to be a contributor? [14:16:21] I previosuly rewtore his WP article [14:16:27] Exactly [14:17:22] My wiki is very close to one-man too, thankfully it's for a game so I sometimes get an edit and there's two people helping periodically [14:17:23] [1/2] by the way, sorry to interrupt but i just saw this [14:17:23] [2/2] as far as i know and have experienced through my template creation process, visual editing is disabled for templates [14:17:23] [1/2] I haven't tried for real because it's still at WIP stage to my perfectionist eyes [14:17:24] [2/2] but I doubt at this point tbh, because the magority of fans are over 45 and hang exclusively in private facebook groups [14:18:06] I have to data mine shit all by myself [14:18:14] Wajiro mentioned merging cells in visual mode, that's why I mentioned it <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> but yeah should be a default setting afaik? [14:18:16] while they are being weirdly greedy [14:18:41] [1/3] totally get the feeling of running a wiki alone [14:18:41] [2/3] i more or less do most work myself, especially on templates, since none of my mates know how to hahah [14:18:41] [3/3] it's fun though [14:18:42] yeah, VE is turned off for templates by default [14:18:55] one-man is fun bc I am sitting in the room (wiki) and playing with my dolls (pages) [14:19:06] that's weird. whenever i create a Template: page, the Edit button doesn't even show up [14:19:27] If it's a default setting it can be changed from default. :p [14:20:01] not sure if it's a setting but i have never touched the visual editor even when i preach it to my fellow wiki editors [14:21:09] there [14:21:15] It can be changed per-namespace [14:21:44] maybe there's a setting to get it enabled but honestly if i enable that thing i'm VERY likely to going to run into that stupid random row break issue that plagued my previous template again [14:21:48] [1/3] Cuz I then put a big "THIS WIKI IS MOVED TO this address on Miraheze blah blah", assuming it's OK as a founder and admin. Yep? [14:21:49] [2/3] . [14:21:49] [3/3] Nuh-uh! My notice was rolled back cuz of Fandom's "Forking Policy" 🤨 (a google search would explain it) [14:22:01] ah yes [14:22:10] this server had a bit of a talk about that [14:22:29] Yeahh [14:22:58] yeah congrats on updated forked policy [14:23:34] I can't say much that hadn't already been said but this is still so insane to me [14:23:36] I shall pray my wikis are too obscure to care about lol + communities are very nice to go along [14:23:53] i guess just pray a "fandom star" doesn't come across your wiki [14:23:55] [1/2] I mean, how do even parameters work in visual mode? Are all {{{x}}} just hidden or have some visual implementation? [14:23:55] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bx [14:23:56] [2/2] Templates are at least somewhat technical so there should be no reason to use visual there anyway in most cases <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [14:23:57] im lucky the wiki im moving is obscure :3 [14:24:13] (Manually by changing "action" to "veaction" in the address) [14:24:28] if you mean using templates [14:24:31] we had one here, pizza tower wiki admins bullied him out lol [14:24:35] (Manually by changing "action" to "veaction" in the address) [14:24:44] I wonder how long I can keep a notice about the move before someone sees it [14:24:56] They agreed to delete mine, so as long as you have no contributors staying you have a chance of having it deleted [14:25:07] wait really?? [14:25:15] I have literally 0 contributors [14:25:19] Nah, writing them [14:25:28] since like 2014 this wiki has been dead so maybe ill win [14:25:31] you'd first have to find your desired template, and then add undocumented or documented parameters [14:25:35] [1/4] the criteria are [14:25:35] [2/4] - size [14:25:36] [3/4] - obscurity/popularity [14:25:36] [4/4] - amount of editor [14:25:38] ah then i have absolutely no idea [14:25:49] because i have never needed that and i have a phobia of that [14:25:51] Goodluck then <:EpicFaceMH:912930767972225095> [14:25:59] thanks [14:26:08] interesting, thanks for the knowledge. [14:26:12] if you hit all stuff on minimal there's a chance you can persuade fandom staff to delete (or they'll do this by themselves w/o warning) [14:26:21] LOL [14:26:36] I was surprised the wiki was even up when I found it tbh [14:26:41] did he expose himself first or did the pizza tower community expose him [14:27:17] idk when the last time someone edited it before I adopted the wiki but staff was long gone [14:27:39] [1/2] Mine (Fandom/GP) one has a garnered another "semi-active" PRO member before the move (Which IDK I promoted him to admin or not) and while it's now a dead island, attracts some users periodically [14:27:40] [2/2] That's why it was so prone to rollback [14:27:49] [1/2] actually I did on wiki.gg discord, idk if he's still here [14:27:50] [2/2] I didn't know who he was until I noticed him deleting announcement on very tiny fan game wiki I helped a bit on wiki.gg [14:28:39] what kind of announcement was he deleting and what did he think he was doing [14:28:47] the migration announcement [14:28:52] from main page [14:28:59] ahh [14:29:07] way to expose yourself ig lol [14:29:22] or maybe he wasn't even trying to hide that [14:50:30] I actually saw that guy before, tried to convince my somewhat niche game wiki to migrate to fandom [14:51:01] bruh [14:51:11] they made a wiki on the same topic soon after.. [14:51:48] made at least one article? [14:52:00] yeah, bare minimum [14:55:27] I switched to an nc license just in case, because it was kinda unnerving knowing it's sitting there empty [14:56:16] man, that's really scummy [14:58:02] Quick question, if I were to add in css for my page [14:58:20] Is there a way to have select tables not be affected by the css I added [14:58:29] classes [15:00:40] <:ThumbsUp:372938313755262977> [15:15:01] [1/3] I appreciate very much your fixation to Soft Cell music band. [15:15:01] [2/3] My wiki is not a one-man wiki but three men wiki is close to that. [15:15:02] [3/3] Is difficult to gather contributors and people who want to edit on another people wiki [15:17:18] Having a three-men wiki make me realize is important to write all consensus somewhere. The debates for admin my wiki can sometimes be very long [15:20:19] Yes. The admins are bureaucrats are not in control of fandomwiki. Is like the admins are volunteers under fandom and fandomwiki owns the wikis [15:36:44] My Wiki was approved 🎉 [15:37:25] W [15:57:45] soft cell is based [15:58:33] yay [16:05:35] Just saw we have a RfC from June still open, what’s our normal policy on ending them? [16:06:34] I’m mainly a discord person so I’m not very familiar with RfC and noticeboard etiquette [16:15:05] Has anyone had the same problem? 👆 [16:17:51] I can relate (1 man project moment) [16:27:21] Thanks @alstene18_3868 at last we have Miraheze discord level 1 [16:27:36] you're welcome! o3o/ [16:27:59] Thank you!! [16:28:23] been meaning to figure out what exactly to do with my nitro atm so i guess supporting this server was the first thing that came to mind for me lol [16:58:55] cartoonishly evil holy fuck [17:04:21] How do I make someone admin so they can edit stuff? [17:04:32] Or just make some people able to edit the page. [17:05:47] Found: https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1146572011234132093/1146572993015840870 [17:07:31] https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/407537962553966603/1172221696388907171/A8CBB465-9E48-4589-BA5C-A0FEA07CA2D2.gif?ex=655f8787&is=654d1287&hm=bb9854289dee930bbb7b5613d77da5e345830b7fd6aa418e6cb688418900dd55& [17:07:33] Guys! Now that we have level one boost, use the animated server icon to change the icon to this [17:07:42] lmao [17:07:45] <:EpicFaceMH:912930767972225095> [19:41:16] How do I actually apply a skin? [19:42:45] [1/2] In Special:ManageWiki [19:42:45] [2/2] Administration and choosing a wiki [19:43:48] In this right? [19:44:25] [1/2] first you need to enable it in extensions admin menu, skins tab [19:44:25] [2/2] then apply as default in additional settings > styling tab [19:58:20] Huh CSS gone 🤔 [19:59:17] Oh wait [19:59:17] if you added CSS on skin specific page, it won't work on another skin [19:59:25] I didn't add any css [19:59:32] just trying out skins [20:04:38] ok, there's a small problem - ManageWiki appearing between sidebar and tool bar, isntead of being at the very bottom like on Vector [20:04:57] a bit uncomfortable when you use tool bar often [20:05:19] I have a quick question, how do I edit the abuse filter so that the wiki is more lax on external links for users? [20:21:33] Why is their a difference between my two browsers when visiting the site? [20:21:45] I just changed the style? [20:21:54] Does it need time to apply everywhere? [20:22:49] Huh some siter have the style? [20:22:54] Maybe browser caching? [20:23:10] everything together really [20:25:14] In chrome it is a different page again 😵‍💫 [20:26:58] you tried every skin? [20:27:16] Uhm only 90 % :D [20:27:29] Maybe it just need sometime catching up 🤔 [20:27:35] you could preview them w/o changing settings [20:27:39] Oh [20:27:41] Uhm [20:27:50] I didn't see that anywhere as an option [20:27:53] or check screenshots on mediawiki.org [20:28:03] Some themes only linked github [20:28:10] Or didn't have images [20:28:20] But now it seems to work [20:28:37] I shouldn't be mass changing skins in the future :) [20:28:38] has to be done in URL by adding '?useskin=cosmos` (for example) or via user preferences, appearence tab [20:28:46] Oh okay [20:45:18] What skin is that? [20:45:35] heeey eytirth [20:45:36] Uhm wait a moment [20:45:40] how ya doin? [20:45:52] I am okay, I returned as to have people to talk to about MediaWiki [20:45:58] [1/2] Splash [20:45:58] [2/2] Splash skin for MediaWiki, as designed for zaori.org [20:46:56] It is a nice skin to me [20:47:31] I didn't like this part [20:48:33] change the font via CSS, easy [20:49:13] I think the font is hard to read [20:49:43] [1/2] I'm currently at this. [20:49:44] [2/2] This does seem more like the Style I'm going for. [20:52:30] I use Vector 2022 made to look like Old Vector [20:52:32] Is their some sort of difference between logged in and not logged in visitors when it comes to skin? [20:52:59] I kinda wanted to copy WikiVoyage in my look [20:53:12] [1/2] Because the style is only for 1/3 pages when not logged in. [20:53:12] [2/2] But when I log in 3/3 pages use the correct style [20:53:47] Hmm, odd [20:54:06] THis is my wiki CSS/Skin (I used a add on to get the banner_ [20:55:09] @louis_ds I am not sure why it would do that. I know little about it [20:56:00] https://chainsmp.miraheze.org/wiki/Hauptseite [20:56:12] Can you send a screenshot of that site @eytirth [20:56:24] To check if it is a cache problem on my end [20:57:43] That looks really cool [20:59:41] Vector new for me [21:00:07] Huh [21:00:09] Why [21:00:24] It is that for mee [21:00:26] Ahhhh [21:01:40] Also, a custom CSS can help your wiki stand out [21:02:05] Def [21:02:18] Yes, the only problem is that im not good at css [21:02:36] Currently trying to search for someone in the community how has the skills and motiviation :D [21:03:50] If you have money or want to go outside, I know a few freelacing servers [21:04:07] @louis_ds What was your CSS idea? [21:04:26] @pixldev What is your wikj about? [21:04:37] Neither am I I’m just random bullshiting it lol [21:05:10] I think Lake, Xena and Tali64 are good at CSS [21:05:11] It’s the wiki for a minecraft datapack called the Nyctocosm https://www.planetminecraft.com/data-pack/the-nyctocosm-wip/ [21:05:25] [[mh:nyctocosm]] [21:05:25] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/nyctocosm [21:05:26] [21:05:30] Wait [21:05:37] That’s the dang interwiki thing [21:05:54] I know a few people that have css and stuff in school [21:06:11] If your in CS or Web Dev makes sense [21:06:19] I will first wait for them to come online [21:06:25] I learned most my shit self taught [21:06:25] Maybe they want to do it :D [21:07:00] Nah doubt, people don’t normally have the time to style other wikis they aren’t dedicated to:/ [21:08:04] Best just to learn it yourself [21:08:14] Basic CSS ain’t too complicated [21:08:19] [1/2] Well they play activley on the server. [21:08:19] [2/2] Otherwise I will just try to learn it myself [21:08:29] I know a bit of CSS, even managed to adapt a MediaWiki CSS to WordPress [21:08:31] Ah [21:08:41] Huh, interesting [21:08:55] I also can alter CSS that already eixsts [21:09:03] Yeah [21:09:31] But what could be the cause for different styles on different sites [21:09:43] [1/3]
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'''Place'''/div [21:09:44] [3/3] Is a bit of CSS I altered from an existing CSS [21:09:45] Like for me when logged in it is different to when I'm not [21:09:57] Hm, I do not know, but it appears as Vector 2022 for me [21:10:52] Could be your set skin isn’t the default [21:11:02] Check your preferences page [21:11:13] How would I set permissions for users so that they have to verify their emails? [21:11:23] I'm more doing this just to see if I did it right [21:12:01] Because we have been plagued by a user who has caused me to enforce stricter and stricter rules on who can edit and who cannot [21:12:33] What did you do? [21:12:43] Huh [21:12:58] Why is it only for people with account 🤔 [21:15:05] Set users role to require their email to be confirmed [21:15:09] At least, that's what I'm trying to do [21:15:15] But the permission is not taking effect [21:15:34] Remove edit from * maybe [21:16:05] That would be the everyone role, yes? [21:16:09] yes [21:17:04] All users including logged out [21:18:38] This is the users role. Still can't assign email confirmation. [21:18:56] Er, everyone role [21:20:16] User permissions [21:20:58] Anything stand out here? [21:21:27] I am setting up a system where users have to be emailed by staff to get a role higher than users so they can edit [21:21:37] Until a certain clown fucks off [21:24:00] I mean if it is just a singular person, just block them (Special:Block is where that can be done) [21:24:00] [1/2] My wiki is on Timeless Skin. Customized with CSS. [21:24:01] [2/2] tuscriaturas.miraheze.org [21:24:29] He makes ungodly amounts of alts. [21:24:42] And bypasses bans. [21:24:43] You can do IP blocks there too [21:24:49] He bypasses those too. [21:25:01] He's been doing this for nearly a year at this point. [21:25:12] Oh, and the individual actually snuck into this Discord. [21:26:03] I think I will use Tweeki [21:26:07] It seems very bassic [21:26:15] And nice for now [21:26:25] Is a nice skin too [21:26:36] @nibblypup Check DMs [21:27:22] Jesus [21:27:27] This is just like [21:27:29] Sad [21:28:03] And he's done worse shit. [21:28:12] 💀 [21:28:13] I think verifying emails is not definitive because the alternative wiki account could verify different emails [21:28:29] Here's a... doc on some of his crap. Spoilered because bad. [21:29:01] For that level of vandalism, you really should contact CVT then. There is little to nothing you can do with just local powers to truly stop that level of vandalism [21:29:03] How long did you- [21:29:26] Which users, then? [21:29:38] You can talk with volunteers on the #cvt channel and wiki role to help you with that sock puppet and alternative accounts [21:29:43] The individual responsible for this crap is hiding in this Discord, under the name Bila [21:30:03] That’s a job for the mods [21:41:49] @sailworldbuilds Has dealt with this guy on other sites in the past, too. [21:42:20] Please drop the topic. Mods have been spoken too. [21:45:23] [1/3] managed to force this More button [21:45:23] [2/3] can't figure out how to make tool bar appear on click instead of sitting on the left instead [21:45:23] [3/3] if anyone know if some wiki managed to done please lmk [21:50:04] <.labster> I don't have the background, but at the very least a dealing with ban evader isn't a topic for #general. [21:50:53] How did you do that @theoneandonlylegroom ? [21:51:08] Is this a proper setup for having a user be autopromoted after verifying their email? [21:51:15] Witchcraft [21:51:58] Was that JS + CSS? [21:52:04] CSS [21:52:23] I don't know whether JS is involed in this dropdown [21:52:32] What skin? [21:52:36] Timeless [21:52:50] I made it look like Vector first [21:52:52] Timeless is nice [21:52:58] but it made sidebar to be too long [21:53:05] @theoneandonlylegroom Vector 2022 or old? [21:53:13] Also, question that may be vaguely related to something I was discussing before, but would adding a role where all blocked users get demoted to violate anything? [21:53:29] So that it is easier to find such users [21:53:49] who does that? [21:54:59] <.labster, replying to themorningstar3282> no. [21:55:06] Alright [21:55:08] Just curious [21:55:18] Looks like a blue old vector [21:55:39] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1174466641623535726/image.png?ex=6567b24b&is=65553d4b&hm=57c48d9d0cca19eea399513bfd9a816aa179a9a7a29e74305318b994d30946eb& [21:55:39] [2/2] Also, trying to make sure this is valid for promoting users to the user role after confirming their email [21:56:45] The user group should not be eligible for autopromotion, you should create a new group for that [21:57:12] All registered users are automatically a member of the `user` group [21:57:49] What's a proper way of having them confirm their email, then? [21:58:20] As until the guy I've mentioned before finally screws off, email confirmation is gonna be part of a verification protocol [21:59:03] well, maybe it's not bad when you are not an admin, toolbar is visible [21:59:03] I am glad I moved my wiki to Miraheze and then self hosting [21:59:34] Since I will need the email to message them for verification of identity [22:00:12] What do you think of my skin +main page design? [22:00:38] @themorningstar3282 If needed, I plan to lock down my wiki in a way meaning you have to ask an admin for alogin [22:00:56] That is what I'm doing for the time being, basically [22:01:02] clean classic [22:01:13] Also, because this guy is now resorting to impersonation elsewhere [22:01:18] although I'd say blocks on page need some paddings [22:01:24] Do you see the Wikivoyage and Wikipedia ideas? [22:01:26] text appears too cluttered [22:01:35] Yeah [22:01:53] But regardless, I still need to get users to actually sign up with an email for me to message them [22:02:27] Only images would be AI generations - I think this does mean you see a lo of into at once. Would padding help? [22:03:42] Basic lore is an into to the setting, "Welcome" is just a basic info thing, newbie info is to guide new users where to go, and take part is to try convince people sign up, but it can go if I find something esle to fill the area [22:05:10] There's an email confirmed setting you can use [22:05:19] That will make sure users have a verified email [22:05:30] @theoneandonlylegroom I think it works for now, unless you have other ideas what I could do [22:06:44] I'm aware, but how do I enforce it on all sign ups? [22:06:52] As I can't seem to find that [22:07:26] funny, PTW is actually looking for a way to make users verify email cus they tend to skip FAQ ... [22:12:17] That’s smart [22:12:34] Imagine having new people come in to help edit your wiki [22:12:40] Couldn’t be me [22:12:49] cries in wiki [22:12:57] Like, what role should I have this set for? [22:13:05] The email verification, that is? [22:13:23] I'm still kind of confused trying to find where this lies [22:13:26] well, when average age of your wiki's editors is 14 ... is fan [22:14:00] Would padding help make my main page look cluttered or what esle do I need to do? [22:14:25] in those blocks w/ text on your main page, add some padding yes [22:14:26] @themorningstar3282 check ManageWiki settings [22:14:30] It is there [22:14:33] like `padding: 5px;` [22:14:37] You don't want permissions [22:16:14] I am having an issue with my infoboxes, they are working mostly, just aligned to the left of the page and no boxes around them, any suggestions on where I could start to look to fix it? [22:16:37] Seems to have worked [22:18:33] `float: right;` in CSS [22:19:16] if you took from Wikipedia check its MediaWiki:Common.css page, and copy bits to the same page on your wiki [22:19:26] Thank you [22:22:11] It has float: right in it it seems [22:22:53] Why do so many people take from Wikipedia? [22:23:02] they don't know better [22:23:11] common newcommer mistake [22:33:13] I am glad I had my own templates made, a lot less clutter [22:38:32] Strange. My envy has suddenly vanished. [22:39:57] Wikipedia can help set a good base knowledge if your just starting out on a wiki, its useful in that way. [22:43:07] Maybe, but then again I dare you to show me one common useful template that don’t itself use like at least 7 others [22:53:13] Birth date and age, needs only like 3 other templates, if that was the question? [22:53:37] Fair [23:16:18] Did not know Miraheze is responsible for ManageWiki and DataDump extensions. Really appreciate the work you guys did. [23:19:31] Not really that is rather a huge noobtrap. Pretty much everything on Wikipedia is WAY WAY overengineered for any MH wiki scope [23:53:37] Can i ask for quick help here [23:53:42] the forums a little unhandy [23:54:14] does this look right? [23:57:41] Hmmmmm [23:57:44] Ja [23:57:59] then something else is wrong... oh well [23:58:13] Odd [23:58:18] What do it show as [23:58:23] nothing [23:58:29] just the default text [23:58:37] The SVG is plain, with the recommended size. [23:58:42] What’s the wiki [23:58:54] qharul [23:58:57] cant post links [23:59:53] Gotta verify [23:59:56] Do /auth