[00:00:09] miraheze down? [00:00:30] also not loading for me [00:00:40] im getting both 502 and 503's [00:00:57] same [00:01:03] man, just when I writing nice About page [00:01:33] pretty persistent [00:03:47] @orduin [00:04:26] very dead, refresh doesn't help [00:04:56] I manage 4 wikis, all affected [00:04:58] ok i am not alone my wiki is also down oh boy 3 am [00:05:25] I guess it's a sign to go sleep [00:06:11] <_.your_._mom._> another one’s down as well🥲 [00:06:57] down again? [00:07:17] sad 😦 just got started working on my wiki [00:07:26] sadly yes [00:07:42] how long does it normally take to be back up when it goes down? [00:07:49] hopefully @Site Reliability Engineers will fix soon [00:08:16] Is there any point in having the Twitter/X feed on the 503 when it isn't working or updated? [00:08:18] i took forever to realize I had to import common.css to make almost everything function. just to throw that out there if anyone else thats new is reading [00:08:37] I swear if it's another server failure [00:08:55] +1 [00:08:57] last time I made a wiki the servers wiped it just as I'd finished most of the pages for my portion [00:09:02] Twitter is dead [00:09:12] we had DDOS couple of months ago, which actually was much worse, trust me [00:09:19] And unless you login, the feed won't work [00:09:30] 🚮 [00:09:31] but you use backups, right? [00:09:37] Yep [00:09:45] well thats good 😄 [00:09:54] but all the formatting and work going into making it a functional wiki page was wiped [00:10:02] absolutely killed my enthusiasm for it for like a year [00:10:11] usually clicking back saves all [00:10:20] like, it opens you editor [00:10:43] ah ok, gotcha. you could use vscode or any other IDE to write .wiki files with valid wikitext. [00:10:56] I do that on my machine and then just port it over to miraheze once its done. [00:11:08] I just had this too and copyed to notepad for tomorrow lol [00:11:30] If your in a Chrome type browser then clicking back will usually have the unsaved progress on most edit pages. [00:11:30] good night and good luck [00:11:36] gn:) [00:19:03] Small question, does anyone know for how long the website is usually down for? [00:19:17] In a perfect world… never [00:19:25] This isnt usual [00:19:40] Oh lol, i see [00:19:49] I'll settle into my chair then and wait 👍 [00:20:00] @paladox @orduin around? [00:20:35] We're looking [00:20:38] Alright [00:21:05] network outage affecting certain networks it seems [00:21:17] Oh so its not us, ill take that [00:21:23] yeh [00:21:43] we found a possible denominator. Dunno how we fix it tho lol [00:21:53] I was scratching my head looking at the alerts in -sre and was like theres literally nothing explaining it [00:22:06] bassically ovh cannot reach us and vice versa and then we cannot reach irc.libera either [00:22:17] so that proves ovh isn't at fault i think [00:22:33] So could it be the DC net? [00:22:51] could be our ISP [00:23:10] we had issues with wikimedia and they had to do something their end just for us [00:23:21] Whose our ISP? [00:23:52] i have no idea but AS25160 - looking at that it says they are a isp and are in london [00:24:28] they are "depref routes from AS25160 " [00:24:34] which fixed it for us [00:25:15] They dont have outages posted on that isp site [00:25:54] Is miraheze down [00:26:06] Yes [00:26:11] Ah okay thanks [00:26:49] <_aru> any idea when it will be back up? [00:27:03] Nope [00:27:58] Notice when every outage happens BTS drops a song [00:28:21] this was broken when twitter/x changed their rules for api. miraheze probably shouldn't point to it anymore, but it is a twitter/x fault. [00:28:27] Notice how its never related? [00:28:41] And notice how Miraheze always gets updated or something good happens for Miraheze when BLACKPINK releases a song [00:29:15] Yes it is <:droidcry:1126190447178567681> I have a whole wiki dedicated to the fraudulence of BTS and how it's sabotaging Miraheze [00:29:27] I wasn't blaming Miraheze, I was asking if theres any point to still have the feed on there. [00:29:30] whats going on lol [00:29:30] Cool, ill stick to the facts. [00:29:51] And the facts are that BTS caused this outage 🤷‍♀️ [00:30:07] servers are down, not much you can do. It's farm-wide [00:30:07] [1/3] If it helps, this is the error I'm getting on my wiki: [00:30:08] [2/3] > Error 503 Backend fetch failed, forwarded for 45.132.159.120, 127.0.0.1 [00:30:08] [3/3] > (Varnish XID 982813033) via cp34.miraheze.org at Sat, 18 Nov 2023 00:28:02 GMT. [00:30:48] [1/3] same: [00:30:48] [2/3] `Error 503 Backend fetch failed, forwarded for 142.126.189.174, 127.0.0.1 [00:30:49] [3/3] (Varnish XID 985710938) via cp34.miraheze.org at Sat, 18 Nov 2023 00:28:47 GMT. ` [00:31:23] and phabricator is down with a 502 error [00:31:33] We are aware [00:31:48] oh #join-log is so active [00:32:00] Happens everytime theres a outage [00:32:09] yea [00:33:06] thanks. didn't mean to imply you were. was just explaining why it is the way it is. [00:33:13] [1/4] # If you are joining because of the outage [00:33:14] [2/4] Yes we are aware your wikis are down, SRE is actively investigating and attempting to restore access. There is no known ETA at this time. [00:33:14] [3/4] We are asking that people please refrain from speculating, and spreading misinformation about this outage. [00:33:14] [4/4] Thank you. [00:34:36] (I would encourage people _not to post the full erorr they are recieving at the bottom of the page as this includes your IP Address—which you probably don't want). [00:34:54] Honestly, all the errors would be the same [00:35:07] So we don’t need all of them. [00:35:28] we don't need any varnish stuff either [00:35:39] it's the connection between cp* and the backend [00:37:28] <_aru> idk if this is relevant, but the status.miraheze.wiki page is saying everything is operational [00:37:58] Well its clearly wrong lol 😂 [00:39:41] it's also down. [00:39:43] aww phabricator is broken 😢 [00:39:46] which is to be expected. [00:40:09] You wont be able to access anything right now [00:40:29] Only reason you can access status.mh.wiki is because its external [00:40:29] usually its just the wiki part, o well ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [00:40:39] yeah its hund iirc [00:50:18] <78_meow> [1/2] Error 503 Backend fetch failed, forwarded for 124.217.188.144, 127.0.0.1 [00:50:18] <78_meow> [2/2] (Varnish XID 361303644) via cp24.miraheze.org at Sat, 18 Nov 2023 00:49:42 GMT. [00:50:55] server is down [00:51:11]   [00:51:13] We know. [00:51:20] . [00:56:00] I love how I only noticed any of this because Discord put an app-wide notice at the top of my client saying there was suspicious activity here and clicking on it immediately showed me all the recent joins. 🤣 [00:56:05] Hi guys, good luck fixing the servers. [00:56:26] a lot of people joined? 😭 [00:56:39] im just bored and looking around lol [00:56:46] Well, it's an awkward situation here, because I don't think the problem is with any of our servers. [00:56:54] 12 joins in 15 minutes, discord started serving captchas to new joins, supposedly. i dont think i can disable that [00:56:57] i only noticed something was off because the CSS in the wiki is super non existent [00:57:23] rip i cant post images [00:58:00] i think you need to verify for images (which currently will not work) [00:58:06] https://tenor.com/view/sadgecry-sadge-cry-gif-18423674 [00:58:12] no, any screenshots i take are served on my image server [00:58:19] im pretty sure it's just a generic URL blocker [00:58:30] yeah that needs verification to send links [00:58:34] oh [00:58:37] you have to verify to post links [00:58:38] what kind of authentication [00:58:48] mediawiki oauth which will not work rn [00:58:58] ah, yeah figured lol [00:59:02] yeah i think you know what's going on lol [00:59:18] but once its back, run /auth [00:59:23] aight [00:59:31] i wish you the best of luck on fixing the problem [00:59:33] im assuming i'll need a miraheze account for this? [00:59:36] yeah [00:59:40] makes sense [00:59:44] pretty sure if you post links to images tho they'll only be links xd [00:59:48] even if you verify i think embeds are disabled? [00:59:49] but maybe im wrong [00:59:51] no clue [00:59:58] people can click on the links though lol [01:00:06] ive seen embeds by users before [01:00:10] we should return to IRC [01:00:12] 😛 im probably wrong then [01:00:18] we'll see when i verify [01:00:54] oh never mind i guess you're right [01:01:56] unless Twitter doesnt do embeds [01:02:00] idk atp loo [01:02:26] [1/2] #global-wiki-feed just stopped right as 6:59 am [01:02:26] [2/2] so its been an hour now [01:03:10] if i had to guess, it might be down :p [01:03:24] well it has no edits to log [01:04:31] that too [01:08:07] lmao do you own the server? [01:09:47] I am pretty sure that's void but I am one of the admins [01:10:27] Been wondering what Discord Manager means, is it your job to configure roles and channels and such? [01:16:15] I set them up long ago. Don't really do too much now. [01:17:53] The only thing special about my role is that it's above discord admins :p [01:24:17] Youre the trophy on the shelf that everyone walks by now lol [01:25:18] Accurate [01:26:50] Daaaaang [01:27:05] But hey you got that drip [01:27:07] <:EpicFaceMH:912930767972225095> [01:28:04] Lol I gotta give him crap every now and then til I can guilt trip them into fully coming back 😂 [01:29:17] 🫡 godspeed [01:29:31] <:DoneMH:775407710400675940> [01:32:08] Miraheze is still down. [01:32:53] #announcements [01:33:07] This is known. It's been down for 1h30m. There's no ETA, but they're looking into it. [01:33:52] the enemies of the cyberspace cracked down [01:33:53] though i think void said it might not be a problem with miraheze's own servers, so maybe it will take a while if it's something staff can't directly fix [01:33:55] the end is hear [01:34:26] the cyber police are invading the operation of miraheze [01:34:35] well nobody gets to look at and complain about my shitty css for now then [01:35:42] it's in the logs you aren't safe [01:36:00] there's more crap on my wiki, dw [01:36:20] you're only seeing a small part of it [01:37:31] For anyone who's curious, the problem appears to be an IPv6 routing problem with our primary hosting provider (or their internet provider, not sure how far up the chain this goes, but it's almost certainly outside our ability to control). [01:37:46] was about to ask [01:38:19] I hope that there are several backend servers though... Because if the servers are down due to a single point of failure (SPOF), then the server architecture is brittle. [01:38:25] oh rip lmao, hopefully they get it sorted soon enough [01:39:27] i'm pretty sure that miraheze has several servers [01:39:46] and it most likely isn't the servers acting up either [01:40:44] Yeah, it's something with the routing of internet traffic to/from the datacenter itself [01:40:46] There are various servers but supposedly the issue is the Internet connection from the data center [01:40:55] MIRAHEZE IS IN PROBLEMS! [01:41:34] and they do not have any ETA on fixes, i'm presuming [01:41:44] Correct [01:42:34] Is IPv4 routing still functional as a fallback? And I'm presuming that the datacenter has been notified of the issue? [01:43:02] As long as v4 routing isnt effected, i cant see why it wouldnt [01:43:31] We do not own enough IPv4 addresses to assign one to each critical service. We may be able to tunnel through a server, but don't have that setup at the minute [01:43:31] man these outages usually take three weeks to fix [01:43:51] Stop. [01:43:52] Miraheze is down guys omg [01:44:17] i mean, let's just trust the datacenter guys to do their job [01:44:17] fix website [01:44:20] Speculations and misinformation will not be tolerated and will result in a mute [01:44:33] there's not much we can do even if we tried [01:44:49] oh sorry [01:45:01] we can take this as a free time off i guess [01:45:12] Enjoy your Friday [01:45:13] Are you making some sort of insinuation about me [01:45:27] It actually had nothing to do with you [01:45:36] I am going to write Furina theocracy next [01:45:40] oh it's actually saturday over here [01:45:50] Too late, I already took it personally and I am now beset [01:45:57] Ok [01:46:01] i woke up to my server spamming me about it [01:46:06] It would be handy to have a mirror hosting provider so that the livelihood of the entire farm doesn't depend solely on the ability of the primary hosting provider to operate. But once again, that isn't an overnight fix and is more preventative. [01:46:07] so i just came on to check [01:46:23] Not really possible at our size [01:47:03] Came to ask if there was problems, guess I don't have to ask [01:47:17] <78_meow> Miraheze is broken? [01:47:18] Will the eta be substantial? i.e. should I notify my users via discord [01:47:39] Ye [01:47:41] Unknown [01:47:47] Wtf miraheze is broken? [01:47:48] ig you can put up a notice like "miraheze is down at the moment, will inform when there's any news" [01:48:00] must not bait [01:48:18] Thats what we did in #announcements [01:48:29] Why was my gif blocked [01:48:39] yea i mean to individual wiki admins [01:48:39] Only verified users can send links [01:48:43] wtf [01:48:47] Hey can I get verified [01:48:57] so that their communities won't be left hanging [01:48:58] No because the entire wiki farm is down [01:49:01] yea I usually do this but the last few times it was up within the next 10 mins [01:49:07] No real way to do ot [01:49:08] which I can't complain about honestly [01:49:27] i mean for my server i just told them it's down [01:49:32] and to have to wait [01:49:33] May we bring it back up [01:49:34] Ah ok [01:49:38] I was trying to read something [01:49:46] We’re having a look at using a IPv4 -> ipv6 proxy [01:50:00] If we could you would, now unless you have something productive to add, please stop. [01:50:28] P- Productive? [01:50:31] Me? [01:50:44] v4 to v6 proxy? but isn't v6 routing unavailable? or am i misunderstanding the way it works? [01:51:23] Its basically incoming is v4 that is changed to v6 and vice versa [01:51:27] Yeh, we have a few IPv4 addresses, we’ll have cp* connect to one which will proxy to the ipv6 address [01:51:34] ohhh [01:51:38] Thats heavily simplified [01:51:39] thanks for the explanation [01:52:09] i thought you meant converting incoming v4 addresses to v6 somehow [01:52:11] mb [01:52:18] I mean it kinda is [01:52:21] In a sense [01:52:27] i see [01:52:50] The issue is we can’t get v6 connections to our servers but once it hits our servers its fine [01:53:06] So V4 to our servers then it tunnels to v6 after it hits [01:53:09] Hiii [01:53:19] Oh r we talking about how the severs r down [01:53:31] Yes we are aware, no eta [01:53:39] Ah nice [01:54:21] [1/2] ahh i see how it works now [01:54:22] [2/2] thanks for the explanation [01:54:42] I mean theres more involved but its basically the jist [01:54:58] yeah understandable [02:00:41] hello! I got an error 503 when I was trying to create a page on my wiki, what do I do/who do I talk to? [02:00:57] #announcements [02:01:16] oop, sorry [02:01:17] The outage for the entirety of Miraheze and is being actively investigated. There is no current ETA. [02:01:37] <:xsob:912928935577276526> [02:01:46] I see. thank you! [02:04:08] ts still down? [02:04:15] chilee <:droidcry:1126190447178567681> [02:06:22] Yep its down for me, although meta loads all the text but no formating, i realy needed to access my site. [02:09:55] whenever i wanna edit it always goes down [02:11:08] As they said The outage is for the entirety of Miraheze and is being actively investigated. There is no current ETA. [02:11:33] wtv that means [02:11:43] i mean likee whenever i have the motivation to edit miraheze always goes down [02:12:03] ohhhhhh [02:12:56] This is the first time it has ever gone down on me, but its the firstime I actually needed to access my wiki for an important reason & not for fun. [02:20:46] you are one very unlucky person [02:22:18] first time i’ve had miraheze be down for more than like 10 minutes and i’ve been using it for like, 7 months now [02:27:23] Also kind of strange that there is no ETA for it to be back up & running. [02:28:16] There’s no eta because it’s external [02:28:26] E.g we have no control [02:28:37] We’re trying to do a workaround though [02:31:00] Yummy [02:31:49] you got this! [02:36:02] @staelaaopal what the hell language is your about me in [02:40:05] @paladox oh ok, also why doesn't the official status page mention that it is down? [02:50:41] ThereI'm bCk [02:50:43] back [02:50:51] I'm [02:50:54] holy shit [02:51:27] old norse [02:51:35] uhmmnhm my time out was unjust idk I'm too tired to bait anymore i'm going to eep [02:51:41] gnight [02:52:24] they time you out for anything [02:52:59] Hey everyone, I'm currently doing a relaxed playthrough a.k.a. cheating and was wondering what investments/duplicates are best for maximizing relationship and management points? Just assume pron and sx aren't an issue. [02:53:04] so how long exactly has miraheze been down today?? [02:53:37] [1/2] Unclear from the status page: [02:53:37] [2/2] https://status.miraheze.wiki/ [02:54:13] "Brigade'd" by new users due to outage, Discord probably thinks the channel's under attack. <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [02:54:51] I was hoping someone on here would know because that status page has not updated ever since an hour ago. [02:55:18] what [02:55:31] <5.35> miraheze oh no [02:55:32] I think you might have the wrong server [02:56:14] <5.35> my wiki is 503 Backend fetch failed [02:56:23] This is where the guidelines say to ask questions and stuff, no? [02:56:30] I think you might have the wrong server. [02:56:39] I have reported Bubba Jubbs for his language [02:56:43] <5.35, replying to bubbajubbs> sounds like a game [02:56:51] <5.35> this is not a game server [02:57:12] <5.35, replying to paulgamerboy360> his language is fine, but he seems to be in the wrong place [02:57:18] Ah, I must have misposted then. My apologies. [02:57:27] just a lost netizen, nothing to be alarmed over. [02:57:30] lol [02:57:32] <5.35> it's fine [02:57:35] have fun! [02:57:44] You as well! [02:57:51] <5.35> good night, goodbye, and happy thanksgiving yall [02:58:01] the fact that he deliberatly had to misspell the words to evade being filtered is reason enough to be reported. [02:58:02] <5.35> my wiki is still 503 Backend fetch failed though [02:58:03] <5.35> help [02:58:05] Happy Thanksgiving! [02:58:11] <5.35> my wiki is down and it can't get back up [02:58:19] Sorry I get devensive [02:58:25] `For anyone who's curious, the problem appears to be an IPv6 routing problem with our primary hosting provider (or their internet provider, not sure how far up the chain this goes, but it's almost certainly outside our ability to control).` [02:58:38] That's literally what the game I'm playing calls it. It's short for promissory notes. [02:58:44] <5.35> <:F_Crying:698184076980519013> [02:58:45] TLDR: Yes it's down for everyone. No there's nothing you nor Miraheze can currently do about it. [02:59:24] This is a bigger problem that I see with the status page [02:59:25] sorry I get realy defensive and annoyed when I see words spelled or closely spelled that way. [02:59:58] That's fine, but you might not wanna jump to conclusions so quickly in the future. [03:00:15] it's probably old English, judging by the orthography [03:00:22] [1/2] I'm not gonna lie, at first I thought you meant like [03:00:22] [2/2] game o life, cheating in a relationship for a minute lol [03:00:34] same [03:00:55] <5.35, replying to embri_> [03:01:21] I don't think this is an ordinary technical issue because of the fact that they refuse to update the status page. [03:01:34] I think I'm gonna catch some Z's. Happy Thanksgiving everybody! [03:01:54] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1175248389236076674 [03:02:15] Void literally has told us what's going on. It's not on Miraheze's end. [03:03:03] Yes but we dont know how far up the chain it is or what caused it, they should still be able to update the status page as it is on a completely different domain. [03:03:19] Merry giving people [03:03:25] I can't work on my worldbuilding wiki i need something to fill the linguistics void in my heart.. [03:03:44] But "we don't know how far up the problem goes nor what's caused it" isn't a useful thing to update with. [03:04:01] <5.35> i guess that is true [03:04:11] <5.35> we already know that our wikis are down [03:04:30] Is this normal? [03:04:33] <5.35> perhaps just to acknowledge that it is not ' Operating Normally Updated 9 minutes ago'? [03:04:59] Yes; Miraheze is down. No it's not just you. No there's no ETA on the problem currently. [03:04:59] yes but they could at least say the site is down on the status page, i was just wondering why they havent updated it at all [03:05:11] <5.35, replying to embri_> i understand [03:05:38] <5.35, replying to paulgamerboy360> quite pointless imo, but yes, saying 'Operating Normally' is kinda ironical [03:05:40] not for you XNC - was for the incoming screenshot of the 503 backend fetch fair [03:06:48] don't want to ping them if they're busy but shoutout to DarkMatterMan4500 for also being a Kirby fan [03:06:59] eh, I would imagine with only its handful of sysops any available minutes are being assigned to trying to figure out the issue and less about updating the status pages. I don't mind being the virtual sandwich board since I can't do much else. [03:07:29] I just hope this has nothing to do with Hulu, Roblox, & Caracter.Ai being down(like a cyber attack that is affecting the main servers internet providers)?? [03:07:48] that is certainly an assortment of websites [03:08:06] hard to say, but it's not impossible. parts of the 'net go down all the time, and it's more precarious than most folks realize. [03:08:14] Hulu and roblox went down around the same time as miraheze [03:08:33] <5.35, replying to paulgamerboy360> didn't even know [03:08:51] Weird that the status page isn't automatically detecting anything, but I don't think I have access to manually write anything in. [03:08:52] it fits with the whole "problem is much higher up the food chain" diagnosis. [03:08:52] well if losing miraheze is the price we have to pay for freeing the world of roblox and hulu, so be it🙏 [03:09:10] <5.35, replying to orduin> yeah it's fine thanks [03:09:57] <5.35> <:hsr_01:1105842994608873593> [03:10:25] Yea, I thought it was supposed to automaticaly detect if things were wrong. [03:10:39] <5.35, replying to rainbowlack> i don't even use those websites [03:10:44] <5.35> just give us miraheze back [03:10:56] neither do i, im just a hater [03:11:22] i was having so much fun editing css :( [03:11:30] i love editing css i feel like a hacker [03:11:57] <5.35> https://downdetector.com/ [03:12:01] <5.35> hulu seems fine (? [03:12:02] I used to use roblox all the time but don't anymore, and i have never used hulu I found out there were down from the downforeveryoneorjustme website. [03:12:18] <5.35, replying to rainbowlack> lol yeah i feel that [03:12:22] \changes background-color to red oh yeah im with the big boys now. [03:12:38] hey i cant send links 😦 [03:12:45] Nothing new to read here besides everyone confirming to each other their wiki is down, it seems 😌 [03:12:49] used to also use Roblox all the time, but the Lumber Tycoon 2 community will erode your very soul [03:12:53] <5.35, replying to paulgamerboy360> need to verify [03:12:55] have to be verified, and that isn't available while the Miraheze server is down. [03:13:03] <5.35> sad [03:13:08] support group [03:13:22] Emotional support group, by the looks of it [03:13:35] common AI L [03:13:49] hi my name is rainbowlack, and my wiki went down 😔💔 [03:13:51] <5.35, replying to rainbowlack> except no support [03:13:57] <5.35> just terror and dread [03:14:01] is there any channel on this server that you can send links without being verified?? I was going to link the site i was using to check what sites were down. [03:14:06] I'll see myself out then. We'll see when the problems are resolved. [03:14:07] <5.35> is this the day that the world is gonna end [03:14:10] That and "Yes it's down, no it's not just you, No ETA on service returning" signboard. [03:14:12] Ikr [03:14:14] a really bad support group [03:14:20] <5.35> i didn't even get my turkey day [03:14:28] anyway there's been big DDoS attacks like you're theorizing, Paul, in the past [03:14:36] just be creative; isitdownrightnow and .com [03:14:39] I think one happened in 2016, if I'm not mistaken? [03:14:51] miraheze would be a weird site to ddos lol [03:15:00] ironically, that DDoS actually took down a down detector [03:15:04] downforeveryoneorjustme .com [03:15:05] It was probably collateral damage, if this was a bigger attack. [03:15:13] It's not quite as weird as you'd think, from a political one-man's perspective [03:15:22] <5.35, replying to paulgamerboy360> there you go [03:15:28] yo is the site down? [03:15:31] yes [03:15:32] not to get political or anything but miraheze is down [03:15:45] I would think wikipedia would be a better target to attack [03:15:52] It's a harder target to attack [03:15:54] better defended [03:15:59] but it's more fun that way [03:16:18] anyone who DDoS's isn't looking for a fair fight [03:16:19] i wanted to test using full force skills in p5r 😦 [03:16:35] [1/11] Recent Outages and Problems [03:16:35] [2/11] Dominos [03:16:36] [3/11] 3 hours ago [03:16:36] [4/11] Roblox [03:16:36] [5/11] 4 hours ago [03:16:37] [6/11] Instagram [03:16:37] [7/11] 4 hours ago [03:16:37] [8/11] Elden Ring [03:16:37] [9/11] 4 hours ago [03:16:38] [10/11] Call of Duty [03:16:38] [11/11] 4 hours ago [03:16:41] persona fan spotted [03:16:48] [1/7] Outages Happening Right Now [03:16:48] [2/7] Hulu [03:16:49] [3/7] began 32 minutes ago [03:16:49] [4/7] Roblox [03:16:49] [5/7] began 2 hours ago [03:16:50] [6/7] Character.AI [03:16:50] [7/7] began 7 hours ago [03:16:52] engaging "hey isn't persona 4 golden really good" [03:16:56] Auf Wederzien 🫡 [03:17:00] [1/2] Is Hulu down? [03:17:01] [2/2] Yes, we are detecting problems with Hulu that began 32 minutes ago. [03:17:13] <5.35> which channel can i use the /auth command [03:17:20] <:adachi_true:1055549833710149812> [03:17:25] <5.35> is there a command channel? [03:17:35] any channel exept since miraheze is down it won't work [03:17:41] <5.35> i know [03:17:42] oof [03:17:54] #bots mostly [03:17:55] watch as the fractal this server is on goes down too [03:18:00] <5.35> i am just wondering, if ever i guide a newcomer through the auth process [03:18:03] oof right i can't send my fav persona gif bc verification isn't working [03:18:04] <5.35, replying to orduin> kk thx [03:18:07] <:currentyear:798703131994357780> [03:18:36] don't jinx us [03:18:50] <5.35, replying to rainbowlack> i'll send for you if you give me the link [03:19:01] You end up with a DM with the WikiAuthBot, which lets you link your Miraheze account and Discord name [03:19:20] which, of course, doesn't work when the Miraheze server isn't up. [03:19:26] i would but you are not accepting random dms. Or wait I'm not. Idk how this works [03:19:34] [1/3] # NOW [03:19:35] [2/3] that's what I call [03:19:35] [3/3] # MY EMOJI [03:19:40] :3 [03:19:47] (I am stealing it) [03:19:48] <5.35, replying to waddlez3121> that would be funny [03:19:51] (thank you) [03:20:05] true! [03:20:07] <5.35> we'll all live in darkness the rest of the night [03:20:21] @rainbowlack I can't stop trying to figure out what your profile pic is [03:20:28] 1984 is when i can't post a persona 4 golden yaoi gif captioned "woahhhhh story of undertale" [03:20:35] <5.35, replying to rainbowlack> [1/2] just send like [03:20:35] <5.35, replying to rainbowlack> [2/2] asdhajksdjksdhfjsadsajddd .gif here add a space [03:20:48] oh it's a silly frog figurine i found at Dollarama [03:20:58] and i took a picture of it because i thought it looked absolutely zonked [03:21:10] <5.35> https://tenor.com/view/nahida-lettuce-tongue-tongue-out-gif-27670801 [03:21:18] I havent changed my pic for like 2 years [03:21:34] https ://tenor.com/view/youske-yosuke-hanamura-souyo-yu-narukami-gay-gif-20458545 [03:21:53] <5.35> https://tenor.com/view/youske-yosuke-hanamura-souyo-yu-narukami-gay-gif-20458545 [03:21:57] <5.35> ? [03:21:58] YESSSSSSSSSS [03:22:01] <5.35> how is this related tho [03:22:13] <5.35> nvm [03:22:13] Because someone mentioned persona earlier [03:22:19] <5.35> ohhh wwww [03:22:24] <5.35> anyway good night yall [03:22:35] good night and may your wiki be healed in the morn [03:23:02] "2 years Later"🤣 [03:23:28] there was a very long stretch of time where my profile picture was just a saskatoonberry [03:24:14] oh Also my profile picture in like 2018 was a cropped UwU [03:24:31] <:monk1984:1107260292670443610> [03:24:32] sooo tru [03:24:36] <:adachi_true:1055549833710149812> [03:24:57] [03:25:07] <:moonch:794697217826095165> woahh they have the pacman fever guy as an emote [03:25:16] woahh [03:25:19] <:rivsing:1107260466138468382> [03:26:01] <:StrongestSupportMH:945088423469916160> the way it took me a sec to realize this isn't an estradiol emote [03:26:41] every time we try to use miraheze [03:26:59] <:SweetE:588932750162264075> the resemblance is uncanny [03:27:40] it's also 1984 I can't send a cat pic here [03:27:53] they're lying to you [03:27:58] :3 [03:28:00] I know [03:28:19] Just thought it was a little ironic [03:29:08] The status checker is borked, alas. [03:29:44] aren't we all [03:30:46] now i just hope someone hacks my school district [03:31:26] peace and love on planet earth [03:31:56] my life goal is to tell as many people as i can that they should drop out of school [03:32:29] and you can be sure of that because why would i ever lie on the internet [03:32:43] i'm allready literally failing hal my classes, i just cant focus when i have a computer in front of me. [03:32:54] 3 hours without miraheze... think about what it can do to a man... [03:33:12] can't fail classes if you don't have any classes👍 [03:33:27] the agonies :3 [03:33:29] true, but I like my school [03:33:35] skill issue [03:34:35] [1/2] I wonder if the IPv6 routing issue is a software or hardware issue at this point? Other ServerChoice websites seem to be functional. I assume the IPv4 routing workaround hasn't been successful as it's been an hour since it was proposed. [03:34:35] [2/2] And are the servers at SCSVG completely blocked from all Internet access? [03:34:54] it just hates us in particular obv [03:35:54] whats a website that uses it because i will check [03:35:57] in the meantime does anyone have any flag .png's that they want converted into an svg? It's an activity I've recently taken up and it's rather fun [03:36:28] like a png of a flag or does flag mean something else [03:36:38] yes a png of a flag [03:37:04] this offer does not apply to a widely available flag, e.g. an actual country's flag [03:37:17] Euroffice or visitbritain both use ServerChoice. And they're both up. [03:37:23] ok [03:37:26] it's specifically for folks doing worldbuilding and making fictional flags [03:38:32] So, if they use the same hardware /software configurations in any part of the datacenter, that can't be the issue. Anyways, I hope they can resolve this soon (or at least notify the higher-up provider who is responsible so that they can fix the issue). [03:38:58] they have 2 data centers, it could just be one [03:39:13] <﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽, replying to rainbowlack> I also do this as a hobby. Every municipality in Czechia has a flag, pretty much all those are on wikipedja as pretty ppor quality raster images. They are an endless source of flags to vectorize. [03:39:14] what on earth are those symbols? [03:39:28] The hell [03:39:37] (A .svg format is good for a flag because it's scalable, as in it won't lose any quality when sizes change) [03:39:41] usually they show up when a device doesn't have that caracter in that font [03:39:43] The IPv4 proxying is being worked on, we need to make it pretty much from scratch. [03:39:44] <:myman:766380720205594638> [03:40:12] I don't have any flags to ask of you, sadly [03:40:21] though I do have some LEGO decals! [03:40:25] We also have a ticket in with our provider, so hopefully their networking team will be able to look at it soon. [03:40:27] That's so cool how do i do that too?? Like how do i figure which are still .png's [03:40:34] @﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽ [03:40:39] this might be a dumb question, but couldn't the miraheze server office just hook it up to a VPN?? [03:41:03] theyre slow [03:41:26] i mean if your internet is down, putting it through another server wouldn't work because the source is still offline [03:41:33] yes but I would rather it be slow than non-existent [03:41:36] oh [03:41:46] I'm talking out of my ass btw [03:41:54] but they would probably have there own backups [03:42:01] I just spend a lot of time thinking about computers,,, [03:42:15] <﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽﷽, replying to rainbowlack> I go to the categories on commons, to find them. I check the district's article, if there's a vector image it should be used by the article. The main category is: Category:Flags of municipalities of the Czech Republic by district [03:42:22] Those are extra costs, miraheze prob can't afford extra servers [03:42:24] No [03:42:32] new hobby unlocked thank you [03:43:01] oh, so even if they had there own backup files they wouln't be able to use a VPN?? [03:43:20] The issue is our servers cannot communicate to the internet over ipv6 because of our Internet Service Provider having issues so we are working on a way to workaround that [03:43:38] Thats not how a VPN works [03:44:13] Can anyone explain me why is Public TestWiki not working ? [03:44:21] because miraheze is down [03:44:33] all of miraheze is indefinatly down [03:44:49] ISP? [03:44:49] Yes [03:45:01] Wouldn't it be resumed again? [03:45:08] ah [03:45:18] That is what we are working on [03:45:27] This stuff takes time [03:45:44] because it's hosted on mh and mh is down right now [03:45:55] why is mh down [03:45:57] tbh [03:46:01] #announcements [03:46:07] wait if its only ipv6 thats down, then why cant i connect via ipv4 [03:46:09] remember y'all, miraheze does not have the funds and resources other sites do [03:46:13] wait so they cant connect to there ISP why don't they use a public wifi-or hotspot, it would be slow but wouldnt it work? [03:46:26] Because we dont have enough v4 addresses to support it [03:46:27] yea but they havent explained why it isnt working [03:46:36] bc they don't know yet [03:46:41] because its them that cant connect thru it not you [03:46:44] … you cant run a datacenter off mcdonalds wifi [03:47:15] I mean if it was 5g you might me able to [03:47:23] like, hypothetically, yes it would "work" but its far from ideal. outages are also normal/expected of any technology, so its kind of [03:47:33] I’m certified in computer networking and I’m telling you, no. [03:47:40] yeah it's like trying to run RDR2 off of a $15 calculator. you could try but uhhhhh good luck lmao [03:47:56] not with that attitude! [03:47:58] i mean i ran super mario bros on my calculator [03:48:09] u kinda epxlained why it doesnt work lmfao [03:48:25] RDR2 is much more intensive than Super Mario Bros [03:48:28] Because our ISP is having issues [03:48:33] We are working on a workaround [03:49:06] i support our troops (miraheze volunteers)🫡 [03:49:25] cuz funds or whatever [03:49:36] This has nothing to do with funfs [03:49:48] It has to do with our ISP having issues [03:51:06] ah [03:51:07] There are 3 general-purpose in-house servers at SCSVG. Were the two general purpose cloud servers taken down as part of the migration? [03:51:34] Huh [03:51:55] Guys, this outage has nothing to do with our infrastructure [03:52:07] the servers are migrating south for the winter [03:52:08] It has to do with external issues not related to Miraheze [03:52:39] next time someone asks what's going on I'll give increasingly nonsensical answers [03:52:54] And you’ll get muted for doing so [03:52:57] that's fair [03:53:22] I'll give the legit reason and then my personal nonsensical opinion? [03:53:38] No [03:53:43] Read pinned messages [03:54:05] [1/2] AFAIK, the issue is with the datacenter's ISP, right? So the servers in the SCSVG datacenter can't communicate with the Internet over IPv6 right now. [03:54:06] [2/2] So are the two cloud servers on-premise servers at SCSVG, or are they hosted with other cloud providers like DigitalOcean? Cause if they are hosted on cloud providers, they shouldn't be affected by SCSVG's ISP issue. [03:54:37] The servers we have at ServerChoice cannot communicate to the internet [03:54:51] Therefore you cant access anything [03:55:32] This is just a very advanced version of an internet outage at someone’s house [03:55:34] e.g. "miraheze is down, there's an issue with the ISP. or, as i (someone with no connection to this, no knowledge about how miraheze runs, and no experience with servers or datacenters) would tell myself to make myself feel better: the server is so so sleepy and goes honk shoo mimimimimi 💤" [03:56:24] In December 2021, there was a migration from cloud servers to on-premise servers at SCSVG. I'm wondering if the old cloud servers have been taken down (presumably the answer is yes). [03:56:41] Its irrelevant [03:56:43] [1/3] ## clear things [03:56:43] [2/3] * the datacenters working fine [03:56:44] [3/3] * its a problem with the ipv6 isp [03:57:22] Even if we did still have those servers we would have no way to move data between em [03:57:28] And no we dont [03:57:32] We havent for a long time [03:59:35] Data center outage, roger. I wonder what other clients they have that are dead right now [03:59:41] Yeah, sync-ing would be required to get it to work with multiple hosting locations. But yeah, let's just hope the ISP fixes this issue and move on. [04:00:02] [1/4] ## clear things [04:00:02] [2/4] * the datacenters working fine, its a problem with external stuff [04:00:03] [3/4] * its a problem with the ipv6 isp [04:00:03] [4/4] * nothing to do with any sort of migration [04:00:03] In theory all of it or it could be just us, depends on how their other clients do networking [04:00:20] Theres nowhere sync to, WE HAVE NO OTHER SERVERS [04:00:37] [1/7] alternate opinions: [04:00:38] [2/7] - that was me sorry i was hungry [04:00:38] [3/7] - sometimes things happen and we'll never understand, but that's okay, it's just life [04:00:38] [4/7] - i exploded it with my mind :3 [04:00:39] [5/7] - too much swag buildup [04:00:39] [6/7] - too many of my terrible jokes [04:00:39] [7/7] -sillyguy oppression [04:00:43] That is not even guaranteed, twitter timelines are just flat out broken, and not a single acknowledgement of it for months from any twitter employee. I see the "Nothing to see here... yet" even though I am logged in on twitter... Heck even when I go to twitter itself I often have to reload the page a few times to see content there too [04:01:07] as if there are any employees left lmao [04:01:08] No, if there were. I'm talking about the hypothetical if we did have multiple datacenter, which we don't (We have 3 servers at 1 location, where the internet is down). [04:01:24] I honestly dont care about hypotheticals [04:01:41] My job title is datacenter administrator, so all I can say is I'm glad it's not my building that's having issues in the dead of a Friday night [04:01:48] I’m too tired to care about anything but whats going on in the present [04:02:05] The syncing reply was a response to "Even if we did still have those servers we would have no way to move data between em". Anyways. Dropping this issue and moving on. [04:02:08] my job title is unemployed and i feel the same way❤️ [04:02:27] Cause someone has to do crowd control while our 2 sysadmins fix things, and thats me [04:56:12] For IRC only people, We've deployed a temporary fix to allow users to access their wikis while our provider's Network Operations Team fixes their network. However, please be aware that wikis may be slower than usual, and images loaded from Wikimedia Commons will not load. [12:18:06] I have no idea, nor no idea how it takes so long [12:18:54] Actually, looks like it might be coming back [12:22:39] Yes [12:23:00] It looks like ServerChoice have finally withdrawn the affected route and traffic going via Level 3 now [12:23:12] I have serious questions at why that took 8 hours [12:23:33] And even more questions about the affected ISP upstream's ability to run a network [12:25:15] @paladox @orduin any of you around to test? [12:29:51] Images are still broken for me [12:30:02] can't upload any images, Could not create directory "mwstore://miraheze-swift/local-public/2/21" [12:31:07] Yes [12:31:16] As far as I can tell, the network looks fine [12:31:30] The broken route must have been withdrawn [12:31:39] But we're not back up yet [12:31:47] It may take a bit for our servers to be happy [12:31:56] @Site Reliability Engineers can kick them if needed [12:32:16] I can ping bast over ipv6 and it doesn't show the broken route [12:32:21] So something is working [12:32:53] SSLBot just pushed so that works [12:43:20] alright, thanks for the update! [12:44:10] I still have many questions [12:44:25] They are some serious issues highlighted by this [12:44:49] what's wrong even [12:46:06] IPv6 between AS12560 and AS60672 (our host) died. Our ISP has finally withdrawn their default route and switched to going over Level 3 instead. [12:46:42] https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/884834963814486076.webp?size=48&name=Clueless&quality=lossless [12:46:58] Just as I was gonna work on my page today too <:sadgery:610315272322285570> [12:47:38] same [12:47:42] but then again, that's everyday [12:47:53] Jesus jumpy christ I'm getting 502 errors [12:48:05] same [12:48:12] https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1169663076270878901.webp?size=48&name=ta&quality=lossless [12:48:21] <:Gengar_sad:1104496546403319848> [12:50:57] I hope the net provider can fix their issues with the net [12:58:48] They are mitigated now [13:00:21] Wait, you guys don't have IPv4 as fallback? [13:00:56] <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [13:02:40] no, we don't have ipv4 for most servers [13:03:04] can someone give me the rundown for what happened? i saw something abt ipv6s breaking last night but didn’t look into it much 😅 [13:03:44] oh [13:05:17] what i said [13:05:31] They didn’t give any warning before changing it????? [13:05:53] what do you mean [13:06:08] i have no idea what you mean about them not giving warning [13:06:20] Maybe I mis understood [13:06:38] reword your question [13:06:51] Well, it just randomly dies so no warning given [13:08:13] [1/3] Wait when you say [13:08:13] [2/3] > Our ISP has finally withdrawn their default route and switched to going over Level 3 instead. [13:08:13] [3/3] Is that the issue or a fix, I read it as the ISP took a major action/ change to the IP configuration whatever it’s called and that broke it [13:08:21] Oh my bad [13:09:14] no, that is the fix [13:09:30] the route between AS12560 and AS60672 was broken [13:10:10] so they withdrew that route so traffic now goes via AS3356 instead of AS12560 [13:10:45] although it looks like 12560 fixed it too as well now [13:12:14] i see some loss still over 12560 but not on our IPs [13:12:49] Fixed puppet issue, we should be back to normal [13:12:55] i'm definately getting no loss over ipv6 to bast [13:13:02] but not other SC IPs [13:13:09] @orduin any explanation from SC? [13:13:11] Anyway, I'm off for the day [13:13:14] Nothing new [13:13:32] ridiculous [13:13:49] Might take a while for stuff to be normal still I think [13:14:01] up to 30 minutes I'd expect [13:14:07] I've been trying to upload images for a while now and I kept getting 503 errors [13:14:18] image server died [13:14:30] you can only do texts for now [13:14:41] <:sadgery:610315272322285570> [13:14:46] I just fixed the thing, it should be back now if not very soon [13:14:54] I'll try again in an hour [13:15:31] Anyway, I have to go, and won't have access until this evening. [13:15:50] 👋 [14:10:28] How can I mass move pages with a certain prefix? [14:11:04] like if a page name starts with "m/" I'd like to move them to an equivalent with just a prefix like "m:" [14:11:19] ex: page "m/Name" to "m:Name" [14:12:55] Maint script [14:21:20] ? [14:22:32] Maintenance script [14:22:38] You give a list to SRE and they do it for you [14:23:04] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:MoveBatch.php [14:32:31] how about a bot? [14:34:31] Should work [14:38:01] idk if i should open a thread for this but are custom cursors possible? if so, how? [14:38:30] if it needs a thread ill open one though [14:40:06] [1/3] css [14:40:07] [2/3] `cursor: url("something");` [14:40:07] [3/3] i haven't checked, but it's probably something like that [14:41:02] ah, thanks [14:45:35] servers are back? [14:45:59] hm seems so [14:46:01] just no images [14:51:41] How do I enable visual editor in other namespaces like "Meta:" [14:53:18] miraheze is currently still on the temporarily fix because of isp issues so the full site is not functioning. [14:55:04] `Special:ManageWiki/namespaces` i think [14:55:51] couple of seconds without images not displaying... think about what it can do to a man [15:16:54] It won't even let me upload new photos... [15:17:39] I'm guessing there's still something that prevents us from using file server [15:17:46] we'll have to wait [15:18:19] rather unfortonate as I wanted to finally "open" the wiki for community, but oh well [15:18:40] force majeure [15:21:06] [1/2] hope this sounds alright [15:21:06] [2/2] [15:22:16] Quick question, how does exporting pages on mediawiki work [15:22:21] As in from another mediawiki to Miraheze [15:23:15] Would it look something like this [15:24:18] [1/3] yes [15:24:18] [2/3] not sure if User pages are critical to have full page history though, I would guess not [15:24:19] [3/3] and replace %27 w/ normal symbol [15:24:32] like what page shows you, not URL [15:25:18] Oh right so I assume it'd look something like HiGPS' instead right? [15:25:49] I'd normally say its not important to have full page history but its where my project started before Miraheze and the pages are meant to be nuked/deleted after [15:25:53] So might as well as keep its history [15:26:35] page history importance lies in copyrights/licensing [15:27:55] the majority of FANDOM wikis work under CC BY SA license, which means all users who contributed to the page should be credited, and page history insures exactly that, besides just indicating the changes [15:28:06] but if you are the sole authors of the wiki [15:28:28] it's alright to keep just the recent version, from what I've seen here [15:28:38] Hm fair enough, will keep that in mind [15:29:04] I assume that upon importing the pages in Miraheze, I can assign them new page links? Since its not going to be on my user page anymore but a proper page [15:29:11] templates are also allowed to be imported w/o history [15:29:49] I haven't done imports in a very long time, but I think you can change destination [15:29:55] That's good to hear [15:29:59] or import as is and then rename it [15:30:41] I see [15:30:44] Ty ty <:PamThumbsUp:606252632339775572> [15:34:09] what exactly can i test on testwiki cause the way things are worded are a bit confusing [15:34:12] likeee [15:34:37] i wanna test an infobox format for a wiki i havent requested [15:35:21] I thought it's primarily to test extensions? but tbh I test everuthing on my wikis lol [15:35:45] i mean i would just test it on another wiki but idk [15:36:09] i just saw that it existed and thought it was a good chance [15:37:18] I haven't used test wiki tbh, but there's no preventions to test templates [15:37:28] hm, fair enough [15:39:08] For the import request, would the source URL be the wiki itself or would it be my user page in said wiki [15:40:10] As I'm basically importing almost all of my user pages from said wiki [15:40:34] [1/2] I guess your user page <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [15:40:34] [2/2] I advice to indicate that in description field too [15:40:43] does Special:Import fails? [15:42:03] Oh no its cuz the instructions page said if the stuff I'm trying to import might be 1+ mb across 25 pages [15:42:37] I should use the request info dump thing instead, and the content I have is 1+ mb over 25 pages so [15:43:05] In the description field, would this suffice: [15:43:08] ```Migrating from another wiki due to the original wiki having new rules against user pages posting off topic content``` [15:43:12] yeah, then better request [15:44:00] Got an error 500 when I tried to submit <:sadgery:610315272322285570> [15:44:30] I assume that means its not submitted and I should try later right [15:45:25] on request? tbh I didn't even know it has limit [15:46:12] I don't think its a limit [15:46:17] It just said error 500 internal server error [15:46:29] I assume it has something to do with what was said on#announcements [15:47:04] <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [15:48:22] I'll try later, seems like a bad day to do wiki stuff in general today [15:52:08] where'sthe goddamn jar file ... [15:53:35] [1/3] istfg [15:53:35] [2/3] github people can't write instructions and expect everyone be like them [15:53:35] [3/3] meanwhile, I write leighty documentations for my templates and shit at my IRL work [15:54:23] Geoffrey, man, what are you writting ... [15:54:57] The issue of images not displaying has already been reported by @dicto_dicto on Phabricator at https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T11430. [15:57:18] [1/2] well, Miraheze folks were aware already [15:57:18] [2/2] #announcements [15:57:27] this one I assume https://github.com/MrMaurice211/WikiaCrawler/releases/tag/1.1 [15:58:24] I hate this interface [15:58:25] thanks [16:02:07] at least the wikis are working [16:02:19] tragic that the images arent though but something is better than nothing [16:04:32] this shit is limited to 500 files <:moonch:794697217826095165> [16:04:39] my wiki has OVER 2K FILES [16:05:45] Could you send me the wiki's url I'll quickly check if the python script works on it [16:05:49] [16:06:33] 2k files <:KEKwait:714992237305528410> [16:06:37] [1/2] it's so borked, and so abanoned [16:06:37] [2/2] fandom staff didn't bother to fix css after fandom desktop roll out lol [16:06:45] Hope its not a one man project that's probably a ton of work [16:07:08] I wasn't the one who started it but I carried it for a solid year, probably [16:07:22] alongside Russian version [16:07:27] which is even more broken [16:08:50] main reason I burned out managing 4 wikis about 2 dying games was that 95% of the time I was the sole editor [16:09:37] Relatable [16:15:46] looks like it won't work since it seems Fandom doesn't have an api like regular mediawiki wikis >-> [16:17:50] it recognises the wiki but won't work past that point [16:18:16] So yeah something fandom-specific has to be used probably [16:22:37] interesting [16:22:42] how it worked before then [16:23:54] they probably changed it at some point [16:24:32] these changes must be recent [16:24:39] it's the 2.7 one? [16:24:48] yeah the one I linked recently [16:35:48] Since when is Battleborn your wiki? [16:40:49] [1/2] I was made a sysop somewhere in 2017, I think [16:40:50] [2/2] I became bureau of ru version much earlier [16:41:33] the founder/bureau is hard to catch online, I'm not even sure of he's aware of current happenings around the game, so the initiative is fully on me [16:42:11] Gigantic Wiki was adapted by me [16:42:20] Nice. I didn't know (or remember) you were a sysop and Bureaucrat since so long [16:42:58] I didn't know you adopted gigantic too. Seemed very different than Soft Cell [16:43:07] these wikis were essentially abandoned by 2019 [16:43:38] When are about games and the games stop, is typical i think [16:43:46] Gigantic was shut down in 2018, Battleborn's was update was in 2019 and shut down in 2021 [16:46:24] There are tons of abandoned wikis on Miraheze too with one edit every three or six months [16:59:35] <.nectarios> I think my wiki may have been made eligible for permanent deletion, and I can no longer access it online. Does this mean it's gone? [17:00:45] have you got a warning in email? [17:01:49] [1/2] there's a chance it can be recovered because db wasn't dropped in a long time [17:01:50] [2/2] if it's been a year or more ago tho, then chances are near zero [17:03:04] <.nectarios> It was closed for inactivity at the end of April, so according to the email I got, it would've been made eligible for permanent deletion a few weeks ago [17:03:36] what's the url? [17:04:49] <.nectarios> eroth.miraheze.org [17:10:57] [1/2] yeah, you need to create a request on [[SN]], the wiki (un)deletion section [17:10:57] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SN [17:10:57] [2/2] note when you got email about closure [17:10:57] [17:11:36] bear in mind that we currently have only one volunteer able to recover wikis, so it will take some time [17:11:50] <.nectarios> Okay, thanks for your help! [17:11:54] np [17:23:07] anyone else able to run pythin 3 scrapper? [17:24:22] 2 hours without images displaying... think about what it can do to a man... [17:25:07] can you stop w/ that, please? [17:25:59] 30 years without a [17:29:26] is this due to the freak out in announcements? [17:29:40] Yes it is known [17:29:44] Alright [18:35:20] anyone know if theres any equivalent to this little discord display that you see on fandom sometimes? [18:40:52] should be called smth like discord integration [18:42:33] Go to this menu on your discord server and copy the "premade widget" one [18:42:56] You can then add a global js function to inject it into an element on the main page [18:44:08] [1/2] Example: [18:44:08] [2/2] https://polcompball.wiki/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js#L-3 [18:53:32] Interesting, I didn't know you could link like that with a specific line highlighted, that is neat. But yeah pretty easy to make a discord embed like that [19:06:49] thank u for the answer! [19:07:34] why file loda is so random tho [19:07:59] the pizza tower wiki is in shambles [19:08:01] like one time you see, and the other you don't [19:08:08] yeah, sadly [19:08:16] CSS assets were all images [19:08:28] you could say [19:08:33] it's crumbling [19:08:35] custom fonts broke on my wiki too [19:08:44] and for me, yeah [19:08:44] god damn it [19:09:06] yeah i had the infobox image and logo load on a page once and it gave me false hope [19:09:19] I'm testing a template w/ js for audio files so ... yeah, difficult [19:09:28] Oh man, I was just about to add some images to our main page, lol [19:09:50] i was literally doing almost exclusively templates with images [19:09:55] which is funny [19:09:56] The one time I attempt some meaningful changes [19:10:00] I don't undesrtand, is it still ISP issue or not [19:10:20] unclear [19:10:28] from what's been said, at least [19:10:36] I'm guessing it still is [19:10:43] but for it to go on for this long is odd [19:10:53] freaking unbelieveble [19:11:33] Oh hell yeah thanks man [19:23:51] how do i do this? JS is the one language idk too well [19:35:35] Should be able to use the almighty copy paste into common js [19:35:44] Looks like there is stuff to change but it’s html [19:36:31] i have it in there im just not sure how to put it into the mainpage [19:38:21] just put `
/div` wherever you want it to appear [19:40:54] oh there we go [19:40:59] thank u for ur patientce lol [19:42:05] holy guacamole [19:42:58] Only the highlighted line is about the discord widget [19:43:10] The rest is a different popup [19:43:11] some images are loading for me? [19:43:25] those are SVGs [19:43:30] probably [19:43:38] they're pngs [19:43:44] I have some PNGs who load at random too [19:43:46] just sized small [19:43:57] maybe they're cached i wonder [19:44:15] where will it show up? [19:44:17] on every page [19:44:38] In every html element with a `discord-widget` id [19:44:46] Like this example [19:46:23] oh ok [19:46:33] so it's possible to put it in the sidebar somewhere? [19:48:14] That would be hard, and probably require additional complex JS to do, as that isn't editable via normal wikitext [19:49:48] how do i allow text wrap maybe [19:50:18] did you made it float: right? [19:50:34] i did `align:right` [19:50:56] float worked [19:50:57] tq [19:58:48] is there anyway i can have the apostrophe here [19:59:05] page name is `JoJo's Bizarre Modding Wiki`, but the `'` is read as a quotation mark [19:59:28] `JoJo%27s_Bizarre_Modding_Wiki` doesn't seem to work either since the `%` acts differently [20:01:27] is it `\'`? [20:01:52] it still messes up the code colours, but no errors are being reported [20:02:43] sort of [20:03:05] HTML allows escaping characters as `%` [20:03:18] And insce the single quote is number 27 [20:06:00] Yep, CSS uses backslashes for escaping, the syntax highlighting is probably just too basic to understand it [20:06:17] https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1127578338425311242.webp?size=48&name=shrug%7E1&quality=lossless [20:06:38] Ignore it, if it works it works [20:06:52] well, i'll have to wait until the page updates to know that [20:07:07] I've seen a fair share of syntax highlighting bugs in mediawiki [20:17:08] reminds me I managed to make a selector once, that both worked and error'd the whole css page when saving it [20:30:07] why `columns` render is ass ............... [20:30:11] I trusted you [21:36:07] ok [22:59:48] [1/2] You can force a cleared cache refresh. On a Windows machine that'd be CTRL+F5. That usually forces an update through. [22:59:48] [2/2] But you can also use the developer tools (in Firefox you can just right-click anywhere and pick Inspect) and check what it's named there. [23:01:30] To do it globally add ?action=purge to the end of the page irl [23:01:40] to purge the cache for everyone