[00:01:33] All I did was click preferecnes & I have tried it multiple times. [00:03:41] mk. i see you've started a support thread on this. there's no need to post in general if you're also posting in support. but support is the best place to seek solutions to a particular problem as they can get lost here in general. [00:04:22] I posted it here first [00:05:59] [1/2] not casting stones, just suggesting. [00:05:59] [2/2] preferences is working for me, so not sure why it's not for you. hopefully one of our gurus can help out. [00:06:32] should I provide a link to my wiki on the support page? [00:07:24] links always help, but preferences is a user thing, not a wiki thing [00:09:16] it might have something to do with my wiki's settings, I did add some features, aswell as made sure visual editor was set as default(even though visual editor has only ever worked 2-4 times since my wiki creation) [00:18:12] in that case, links probably help, plus maybe what changes you made. preferences is working for me on meta and the wiki i spend most of my time on, so your wiki settings, or maybe extensions, might be the issue. they should play well together, but they maybe they don't. anyway, hopefully one of our more tech-savvy gurus can help in your support thread. [00:25:51] I don't remember what changes I made. [01:58:23] images still not working ? [01:58:30] chilee [02:06:20] This was an Import gone wrong :(, I can't manually import due to the page being to big & the Import Request is Broken.šŸ˜¢ [02:06:43] also now my pages won't load at all [02:07:01] yup, so now i just put placeholders where i need my images to be [02:08:08] I can use images as long as theyre in the wikipedia commons, but otherwise I can't. Also I cant figure out how to make templates, I want the userbox template. [02:10:22] @furina.siyanse do you know how to make templates? [02:12:14] [1/2] Don't worry it's an issue that's been happening since Saturday see announcements they're fixing it soon I think. [02:12:15] [2/2] Currently the entire art archive from my own wiki is not visible. so I decided to focus on youtube videos embedded for now. [02:12:37] does anyone know how to make templates??? [02:13:46] I didn't really make them I just copied them from other places and learn my way by copying what was already done. [02:14:46] I tried to copy them from the Wikipedia but it just said: Template Loop Detected, & Everytime I try to import it gives me a 504 error. [02:16:24] I mainly copied from fandom looking inside of other wikis and and then taking what I needed. [02:17:08] do you have an userbox type template i could use?? Im trying to make a Discord Invite Template. [02:18:24] you want to show a embedded code with an actual visible server with people joined up ? [02:19:11] if you scroll back up somebody was asking for that just yesterday [02:19:31] I'll help the first 20 people interested in how to earn $50k within 72hours and hours but you will reimburse me 10% of your dividend when you collect it. Note: only interested people should send a friend request orĀ Ā sendĀ meĀ aĀ dm!šŸ‘‡ Ā askĀ me HOW ! [02:20:43] oh great a money scam bot [02:22:08] @paulgamerboy360 see this post [02:22:14] ffs @zppix can you delete this?(sorry idk if mods should be pinged for these) [02:22:50] I was looking for something like this but with the left having the server logo, the center the name, & the right the link [02:23:36] Done [02:23:43] uhh i guess you could use that userbox and replace as necessary [02:23:48] we're working on the images rn, had to wait for void [02:23:54] but the link on the right? [02:24:02] thanks mate [02:24:23] but I cant copy the template(it says template loop detected) & importing is down. [02:24:57] ig you can open a thread and dump the template code? maybe there's some circular dependency in there [02:26:38] though is there a reason the discord embed linked by the reply here doesn't work for you [02:28:18] I tried it and it said there was errors on both JS and CSS, and I tried to save it anyways and it just showed the code in normal text. [02:41:48] can someone help [02:41:59] Could not create directory "mwstore://miraheze-swift/local-public/1/14". [02:42:11] i'm trying to upload a very small size pdf to my wiki [02:42:16] Yes Miraheze images & files are down [02:42:23] oh [02:42:35] So is importing [02:42:40] ok [02:42:44] how long its been down? [02:43:04] Over 24 hours [02:43:20] wow [02:43:45] And Phabricator is useless because of CAPTCHAs, we can't due them with our images [02:44:36] Yesterday the whole miraheze servers went down & we are still recovering from the outage. [02:44:42] i see. ok [03:09:02] i was putting the code in the wrong spot, but now i cant get it to display [03:10:44] also i cant get visual editior to work, I dont even have the editior drop down [03:14:06] did you disable this by accident? [03:14:30] can't really tell much without any more details [03:30:08] No I have that enabled, it only worked about 4 times on the day I started my wiki. [03:30:33] also why do all my pages look like this now? [03:30:54] many thanks to miraheze backend admin for propping the network back up within a day [03:30:59] hope the images come back soon [03:31:23] we only just noticed the outage now when some of our users realised certain charts were not appearing [03:31:28] they all have comment boxes & this weird bar [04:13:31] [1/2] Pretty sure that's one of the social extensions you enabled by accident, there. I don't recall where it is in the categories or what it's called, but I know one of the extensions' description explains exactly what you've got (page comments and the like stuff) [04:13:31] [2/2] (if someone who dabbles with extensions more than me could correct me that'd be appreciated) [04:39:45] ....is Miraheze misbahaving again? [04:40:17] images refuse to load [04:42:25] #announcements [04:42:37] my apologies [04:42:48] this sucks [04:43:22] I needed this time to edit šŸ˜­ [04:56:56] maybe I really need to think about some other way to host my wiki [05:07:37] [1/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Commentbox [05:07:37] [2/2] this one i suppose [05:13:01] Has it really been 3 days now?? [05:14:46] 2 i suppose [05:21:15] Ok thanks, I was looking through all of them but I didn't see that one. [05:24:11] aye [06:54:59] I've passed along the miraheze fundraiser link to the community who uses our wiki in the hopes that y'all get some money out of it [09:54:49] tfw you slapped custom icons in css [09:55:10] guess where's edit button w/o safemode [10:01:41] @ap.png no worries lmfao [10:01:59] lol [10:30:37] image hosting server still dead? [10:30:55] I only see the commons comeback [10:31:03] <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [10:31:37] still dead [10:31:53] #announcements is where you'll hear about any change to the situation [10:39:22] Hello Respected all, we want to change our custom domain. What will the best way? Please help us. [10:55:22] just request on phab [11:01:16] how do install/use the cosmos skin [11:01:41] feels like i am missing something very obvious [11:02:11] I just hope the images can still be a recovered because rebuilding the archive would take a long time [11:04:08] he already made a support thread [11:04:43] While I don't think anything specifically been said this time, usually swift issues tend to mean nothing is actually lost, just that the "connection" so to say between the wiki's and the actual image files are not working [11:04:44] seems like my replies didn't quite satisfied him [11:05:32] first enable the skin in extensions menu, then set it as default in additional settings > styling [11:05:47] oh thanks [11:12:03] one problem though, setting my skin to cosmos in appearance doesnt work, it just resets back to vector [11:12:30] so i can only see the skin if i add `&useskin=cosmos` to the url [11:12:45] appearance in your user settings? [11:12:49] yes [11:13:12] are you sure you're saving changes? [11:13:37] yep [11:13:42] and it just sets it back every time [11:13:54] maybe cache [11:14:16] and you set cosmos as default for wiki itself? [11:14:37] i have [11:14:38] although user preferences should override it [11:15:11] listed as the default here too [11:18:07] maybe just waiting a bit will make a difference [11:21:03] The way it is greyed out in that SS, makes me wonder, if you at some point might have set a global preference? Ie. a farm wide preference, in which case you either need to remove that, or put an override on that specific wiki [11:21:28] wait I may have, hold on [11:21:54] oh [11:21:58] yep cry [11:22:31] okay thank you [13:00:25] where can i get the templatestyles extension for my wiki? [13:04:36] it's in there [13:06:28] parser hooks tab, you can try to scroll for it [13:08:05] it's under a different name in vietnamese, found it [13:08:08] thanks! [13:13:46] idk why i haven't asked this yet but [13:13:57] does anyone know a bunch of wikis that are really good to learn from design-wise [13:14:58] skin modification or main page & templates? [13:17:48] skin moficiations [13:17:53] cool CSS and JS stuff [13:18:07] design layout would also be cool to check out [13:18:54] i've got a little something, but there's still a lot to desire [13:19:19] it's also pretty much just a copy of this [13:23:32] I can't tell if it's possible to learn, but just look at their Common/Vector.css and nick some snippets, while also poking web tools by yourself [13:24:35] dang the server is down [13:25:31] i was wondering if anyone had any particular wikis they wanted to highlight as good examples tho [13:28:05] maybe i should take heavy inspiration from the actual topic itself too [13:28:39] I could suggest the ones I worked on, but I'm trying to keep things simple [13:28:59] in case of Vector [13:29:48] the fanciest I've done so far is Vector on Pizza Tower Wiki, further modified by SKL, but since file server is down, everything looks broken [13:30:21] oh yeah true [13:30:30] i guess i'll just look at non-Miraheze wikis for now then [13:30:43] [1/2] this one has some cool stuff going on with CSS [13:30:43] [2/2] https://drawntolife.wiki/en/Main_Page [13:31:03] there's a chance that indie wiki change something in mediawiki itself [13:31:07] i like the use of `image-bg` or whatever it is [13:31:31] what's indie wiki? [13:31:44] self-hosted aka independent wikis [13:31:50] stand alone sites [13:32:04] not hosted on farms like Mira, gg, fandom, etc [13:32:24] farms lol [13:32:35] btw, is there a way to note make this say "Miraheze" [13:33:05] it's not a big deal, but it does stand out [13:33:50] you can request your wiki to point to a domain that you own/buy if you don't want the ".miraheze.org" subdomain [13:33:58] agree, never thought about it tho [13:34:21] no, meaning here the one above URL [13:34:34] my import request got cancelled due to the issues with file storage, do i make a new request after it's fixed? [13:35:32] yeah, wait until the issue is solved [13:35:38] before trying anything like that [14:03:25] The main issue with a general "example" for design, is that what is a good design, is heavily dependant on what a specific wiki covers [15:06:16] How do I make the discord widget show my server? [15:12:00] I put my server ID in but it just displays this: [15:46:30] 2+ days & images till not working :droidr [15:48:53] Hi! So I'm quite new to all this. I recently made a new wiki but I'm unable to upload any images. Says I don't have permission. I've bureaucrat access and have ticked the permission boxes so I'm not sure what's the issue? Is this something to with the ongoing image problems? [15:49:16] images are down [15:49:25] or sth like that [15:49:29] Uploading is down, Images are back up [15:49:34] template editing is also not working rn [15:49:43] they not showing 4 me so [15:49:45] My template editing is working [15:49:52] mine throws error 500 when i save [15:50:07] oh too bad, have you tried to clear the cache [15:50:26] Oh ok. Thanks for answering, I thought it was something on my end. [15:50:49] also importing from XML is working again. [15:51:05] still [15:51:24] probably since it's like 1500 lines of code [15:52:26] If the same template exists on wikipedia you could import it by xml data [15:53:24] it only exists on japanese wikipedia, i've already translated the entire thing manually [15:54:22] oh, i am importing all my templates & I have to manually change all the link prefixes. [15:57:00] @ryuu_ou are you using visual editor, because im using source editor(visual wont work on my wiki), if not you could try that. [15:57:15] am already using source editor [15:59:36] oh [16:03:59] Can someone tell me how to make this look like wikipedia's: [16:04:12] Ignore the red links [16:04:29] i would say look at ours but the images are down it kind of ruins things... worldtriggerwiki(dot)com regardless [16:07:22] yeah our images definitely aren't back.... [16:09:17] Oh thats to bad mine are. [16:10:11] at least that gives me hope they might be back soon šŸ˜­ [16:10:33] its an anime wiki and theres a loooot of gallery stuff and i use it for art reference [16:11:14] the thing that is annoying is that I cant upload new ones unless it is part of a page import. [16:12:04] cache i think [16:12:20] my main page has an image that continued to appear for a bit [16:12:25] nope i have never used this computer [16:12:26] when i cleared cache it stopped appearing [16:12:50] dk then, are they commons images? [16:13:11] some are commons some are Miraheze & some are my Wiki's [16:13:37] are they investigating the image thing does anyone know whats wrong [16:14:21] they are investigating it [16:14:24] IDK, but it sure is taking along time and they say there is no ETA, like how do they not have an ETA, do they not know whats wrong. [16:15:04] iirc they have very few people who can so its bound to take time [16:15:10] X_X [16:15:16] that suuucks [16:16:27] [1/2] starting to feel like its on the backburner for the admins or something not gonna lie... [16:16:28] [2/2] which i get that they're volunteers but like it's been days with no updates and no eta... i would appreciate a little assurance that some progress is being made [16:22:15] Nooooo importing just went down!!!!! [16:23:14] Importing is kinda wonky it works most of the time but i will randomly get a 504 error. [16:26:24] If itā€™s a big import it wonā€™t work on the special page [16:26:35] You need to make a Phabricator task I believe [16:26:46] yeah, but I advice to just wait [16:27:04] as SRE is busy w/ swift still [16:27:18] other things on phab will be put as lower priority [16:30:47] yeah, i'm keeping in that mind [16:30:53] examples would just help with brainstorming [16:31:27] this wiki reminded me of fixed background images, for example [16:31:30] (the CSS thing) [16:31:44] I just try it a few times & eventually it works [16:31:52] hello [16:32:02] i like how the metroid wiki has Samus like this [16:32:17] where do i ask for help.......... [16:32:25] I can confirm that they are working on it. An ETA still isn't available. [16:32:36] A lot of work is actively being put into restoring files [16:32:38] here [16:32:41] i see [16:32:54] resoring? [16:33:13] It's a complex issue which means it will take time to get an ETA [16:33:14] ok, does anyone know how to make a template? i just started building a wiki of my project and idk how to do that <:Wahh:862148297102983178> [16:33:23] thank you [16:33:24] yea all my wiki's files have been restored, as well as Mirhaze & Commons integration. [16:33:29] a template similar to a wikipedia article [16:33:38] with the descriptions and the image and whatnot [16:33:48] [[Infoboxes]] [16:33:48] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Infoboxes [16:33:48] [16:33:54] thx [16:36:09] and for templates in general [[mw:Templates]] (infoboxes are a specific type of template [16:36:09] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Templates [16:36:10] [16:44:36] i am still very confused at what i am reading [16:45:15] what exactly? [16:45:59] its difficult to understand code [16:46:05] tldr just use portable infobox [16:46:19] have you edited on wiki before? [16:46:27] no this is my first time ever doing any wiki stuff [16:46:34] oh [16:47:21] still [16:47:35] portable infobox builder is pretty straightforward [16:47:41] ill look into that [16:47:59] [1/5] okay, wiki formatting is kinda similar to discord text formatting [16:47:59] [2/5] that's the very basics you should know before coding, I'd say [16:48:00] [3/5] [[mw:Formatting]] [16:48:00] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Formatting [16:48:00] [4/5] [[mw:Links]] [16:48:00] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Links [16:48:00] [5/5] these guides should cover you on this [16:48:00] [1/2] [16:48:01] [2/2] [16:48:19] you can enable it from "manage this wiki's extensions" then the special page for it will be created [16:48:38] and yeah i definitely reccomend learning wikitext [16:48:57] the basic stuff is pretty simple if you edit a lot [16:49:13] portable infobox is indeed the easiest way, it also has visual builder where you don't code, but the outcome gonna be very simple, not Wikipedia Infobox tier stuff [16:49:23] indeed [16:49:27] it's explained on that Infoboxes page as well [16:49:50] from my exprience, far not all wikis need to be as complex as WIkipedia [16:50:42] i think the most you should do with infoboxes unless you have like specific needs, is automatic categories [16:50:50] i always found that useful [16:50:57] let them learn slowly [16:51:02] fair point [16:51:15] <:DA_emotepopcorn:1097418368803426384> [16:51:20] lmao [16:51:26] my brain is melting AGH [16:53:20] can you make a support thread in #support , so we won't occupy main channel? [16:53:27] alr [16:55:30] Is anyone willing to help edit my wiki, I'm trying to import Pages from Wikipedia(portals, help pages, etc) [16:55:33] <:cat_dead:794049766991462411> [16:56:25] its probably a bad idea to do that [16:57:27] I hope the issue gets resolved soon. My team and I have spent 2-3 months importing and rewriting articles from the fandom wiki to this new one in hopes to avoid that god awful js bloated website. [16:58:15] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:NotAracham/RaidarrArchive/Don't_import_Wikipedia [17:00:08] I've already started, I have been importing from XML and after the import I change the links, as for the link, I know what the templates do & I just want a help desk & stuff, I'm just too lazy to come up with my own. I am not going to copy everything from Wikipedia, just useful templates and pages. [17:01:29] well, good luck [17:01:51] Miraheze is great but I gotta tell you, stable it is not [17:01:58] it's deverly understaffed [17:03:24] I am starting to lose my patience. Nothing against people who do their best but I don't feel very sure Miraheze is here to stay [17:05:14] Thatā€™s completely fair, and I might have to agree. If worse comes to worse, Iā€™d have to bite the bullet and host the wiki myself. [17:06:05] I am thinking of trying to go with WordPress since my Wiki is only maintained by myself. The cost issue is my main grip (am poor) - as well as a total lack olf expertise [17:07:10] Hopefully it will become more stable over time [17:07:29] True. Avoiding costly hosting is much more desirable, but I guess youā€™d have no choice for longevity. [17:08:23] it might. It might not. There's no telling [17:09:08] the influx of Fandom refugees can either kill it off or breath new life into it [17:09:15] we need more backers [17:09:49] Yeah, the silence is kind of making me a bit weary. [17:10:28] somehow Miraheze pull tru worse shit [17:10:36] Why are there so many people coming from fandom? [17:10:43] minecraft wiki [17:10:54] more people realized fandom sucks [17:10:56] well, partially [17:10:59] for some reason, only now they realised it's shit? [17:11:01] pizza tower too [17:11:09] for me the site has been unusable for 5 years [17:11:16] in fairness i was a child for most of the time i used it [17:11:30] i miss when it was wikia šŸ’” [17:11:36] I didn't know better, discovering Miraheze was an eye openeer [17:11:42] exactly [17:11:43] I mean if fandom hadn't modified media wiki so heavily I would be using it. [17:11:49] I just hope I didn't waste 3 months of work building the image archive is no easy feat [17:12:01] it's gonna be alright [17:12:10] as I said, we had worse outage before [17:12:19] actually, it's been exactly one ago [17:13:20] if it were still wikia id be using it [17:13:39] For my explanation, the dev team for the game (including myself) and the creator of the fandom were generally tired of how fandom was ran, and we wanted more freedom to do whatever we wanted with our wiki. There was also the fact that it was impossible to completely lock the wiki from people creating troll pages with false information. [17:13:40] nah, people were mad at wikia since 2010 [17:13:53] that's when Warcraft Wiki left the first time [17:13:54] damn, really [17:14:33] The other problem is that fandom is mainly used for fiction, fans, cannon, etc. & my wiki is a History wiki. [17:14:53] my Wiki is weird af, I like that Miraheze is for everyone [17:15:18] i love having a wiki on a really obscure subject [17:15:25] i am genuinely struggling to find information [17:15:37] i hit a jackpot recently though- changelogs [17:16:06] thank you brad merritt for archiving your changelogs fr šŸ™ [17:17:16] what kind? [17:17:35] I basically spend all my time using the Internet Archive, the Wayback Machine [17:17:58] same [17:18:04] guys are the images working for you? [17:18:05] Yeah thatā€™s the problem we were facing. We had people just include their OCs, or false information about the game. It annoyed us. [17:18:12] https://youtu.be/qcfuA_UAz3I?si=x_R0pCtIixiu0XuD [17:18:16] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407504500136607745/1175449160208617574 [17:18:28] oh [17:18:34] thx [17:18:39] np [17:19:05] i think one reason is that theres lots of ads [17:19:09] The reason I created my wiki, was because Wikipedia had inaccurate information about the county I live in and kept reverting the changes I made, also they were saying quite a few notable places were I live didn't qualify for an article because they weren't notable. [17:19:17] the fucking sidebar on fandom oml [17:19:22] am just hoping images gets resolved within the next week cuz the game i have a wiki for is updating then <:twisted_donut_cuddle:1174234368269635647> [17:19:36] the unskippable videos<<<< [17:19:42] true [17:19:42] so annoying [17:19:46] I meen with good citations Wiki shouldn't revert anything [17:19:55] Yea I hate it, & the fact that you can't customize the skin very much. [17:19:58] not to mention discussions [17:20:04] god i hate discussions [17:20:12] discussions? [17:20:15] like comments? [17:20:17] why did they try and turn this shit into a social media platform [17:20:30] sometimes ignorance is bliss [17:20:35] I had good citations, they just didn't feel they deserved articles, I finally got one of them through tho. [17:20:43] https://community.fandom.com/wiki/Help:Discussions [17:20:46] which country is that? [17:20:49] [1/4] ironically I would be on fandom but I wanted a simple name change but the fandom administration then closed my wiki even before it started told me to go to the shipping fandom were administrator is very vigilant and doesn't allow editing much but also understandable given the fact many people try to insert false information. [17:20:49] [2/4] I realised I needed my own wiki because I was going to focus mainly on fan made images and art expression. [17:20:50] [3/4] so I came here. [17:20:50] [4/4] the primary goal of the wiki isn't to prove or disproof something but to save the artworks done by people who are no longer active. [17:20:55] [1/2] everyday i hope and pray that the wikis for my main game interests move eventually [17:20:56] [2/2] so glad mediawiki has somewhat easy import features so migrating communities dont have to remake every page by hand [17:21:03] what in the actual fuck [17:21:06] need the fusionfall wiki to move [17:21:12] We live in an Attention Economy [17:21:58] fair enough but still [17:22:05] why dont they just make a separate one [17:22:09] The county was Washington county, my wiki at the moment is all about the history and modern day of Washington County, Utah. [17:22:23] I see [17:22:39] project exonaut doesnt even have a wikipedia page lmaoo [17:22:52] it has a title in a list of cartoon network games thats all šŸ’€ [17:22:57] fusionfall has a page at least [17:23:02] Did you know they deleted the Miraheze Wikipedia page?? [17:23:11] huh [17:23:26] now it is just a name in a list of alternative wiki platforms. [17:23:41] oh [17:23:43] unfortunate [17:24:08] And it was well sourced [17:24:16] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Cartoon_Network_Universe:_Project_Exonaut [17:24:20] Mobile Fandom sucks. I hate it so much [17:24:20] lol [17:24:26] god yeah its so shit [17:24:29] Wikipedia is starting To go down hill [17:24:51] the internet in general [17:24:52] this game has so many intricacies its a shame it wasnt archived better [17:24:53] I mean you could start them yourself [17:24:57] come on [17:25:01] it's been becoming shit since 2008 [17:25:34] aint no way i'm doing that these are massive games/media with so much info that i am NOT doing it by myself [17:25:38] Well it is technically true, england became a "state" in 1801 [17:25:43] i already bit that bullet once [17:26:11] Does fandom have an export feature? [17:26:22] yes [17:26:31] Special:Export [17:26:53] You could export the main pages and inport them. [17:26:58] bad idea most likely [17:27:06] considering the size [17:27:11] and i'm not stealing other ppl work like that [17:27:16] well [17:27:41] fandom wikis are licensed so that you can use their work as long as past contributors are credited [17:27:48] Fandom is public domain so technically speaking it's not stealing, although I can see how you feel that way. [17:27:55] so you could import with that but yeah [17:27:57] thats not the point [17:28:18] with stuff like that you would want the community's help [17:28:38] & migrating to a diff host is a community decision too [17:28:56] indeed [17:29:22] (the media in question i'm hoping moves eventually includes HOMESTUCK and GENSHIN IMPACT so you can see why i wouldnt want to tackle those wikis solo) [17:29:31] Has anyone even proposed it on those wikis you want, if not you should. [17:29:49] oh holy fuck yeah [17:29:58] Does miraheze have a similar feature? [17:30:00] i can see why [17:30:03] Wow [17:30:08] Yes [17:30:13] it has the same feature yeah [17:30:19] i wouldnt jump the gun though [17:30:36] Go to admin links and scroll down till you find it [17:30:40] Iā€™m not jumping the gun, but Iā€™d like to know my options first [17:30:47] I see [17:31:53] i cant find the original page, that sucks [17:32:03] What other completely free options are there besides Miraheze and Fandom? [17:32:04] that always bothered me tbh [17:32:17] not being able to view deleted revisions of pages without rights [17:32:25] WikiTide comes to mind [17:32:31] theres a whole list [17:32:48] i havent willingly touched fandom in years but with the mossbag video i'm hoping some people actually active there have started thinking about it [17:33:03] i really hope so [17:33:18] i wanna see fandom lose even more big ones [17:34:03] If miraheze keeps having issues then I might have to switch to another one, I mean I'm still building it before releasing it to the full public. So I guess if they fix the problems before I finish it will be fine. [17:35:04] so glad mediawiki is free and makes fandom alternatives viable & people are getting more fed up with it [17:35:14] i found the spanish project exonaut wiki, its like a ghost town [17:35:24] kinda crazy it even exists [17:35:32] its basically just the same info as the english wiki [17:35:47] im gonna request for the PE wiki on fandom to be closed soon tho [17:36:13] When I went on wiki travel it is practically extinct, wiki voyage is slowly starting to go defuct as well. [17:38:16] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Hosting_services [17:41:15] Based on those the best options are wikitide and wikisite. [17:41:19] indeed [17:41:27] i havent used them myself though [17:41:32] so i cant speak much on that [17:41:38] And I would opt for wikitide because there are no ads. [17:42:00] im looking into canasta for a private wiki i want to work on [17:42:08] but im not sure if its what i need [17:43:10] looking at this overwhelmed me for the moment [17:43:34] i also do not use linux, so [17:43:59] but then, i was looking into that too [17:44:07] isnt wikitide run by former miraheze staff after the stuff that happened a few months ago [17:44:43] Is media data dumping possible atm? (regarding the issues) [17:45:07] The data dump link is still there, don't know if it works [17:45:30] Meanwhile file uploading links have disappeared except for videos [17:46:56] Export and Import works [17:48:34] what does eta stand for? [17:48:49] FYI: Adios, I gonna transfer my wiki for the third and hopefully last time, this time via some "Tides" šŸŒŠ (Didn't namedrop it cuz it may result in a wave - pun - of migrations from miraheze) [17:48:55] Estimated time of arrival [17:49:09] ah [17:49:14] thank you! [17:49:22] also used to mean "when an issue is resolved" [17:49:58] i hated reading this message [17:50:01] so "no ETA on when images will be working again" means "we don't have an estimation as to when images will be working again" [17:50:11] yes [17:50:23] ik was just defining it for someone [17:50:41] brain melted mb [17:51:18] this downtime is great, it gave me time for a whole new passion: looking through Wikipedia's list of flags that need to be vectorized, and then vectorizing them!! [17:51:40] There's some that i was genuinely surprised weren't vectorized yet [17:51:42] ooh hello i love vectors [17:52:07] i should introduce myself like that from now on lmao [17:52:19] One image that wasn't vectorized was the Canada flag but the red was replaced with the pride flag [17:52:30] And that was used on a whooooole bunch of pages [17:53:24] Also there's just. So many South American province, municipality, and town flags. and so so many are just not vectorized [17:53:59] how many is so many, maybe i should try a few [17:54:18] Here I'll grab you the links I've been using [17:54:40] https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Flag_images_that_should_use_vector_graphics [17:54:50] https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Simple_flag_images_that_should_use_vector_graphics [17:55:07] some have been vectorized but not marked as such [17:55:21] this is hilarious [17:55:23] i highly suspect these two have svg equivalents [17:55:31] someone forgot to install cs source [17:55:45] theyre just squirky :3 [17:55:55] surely this one has a vector [17:56:14] but even with that... staircase?? [17:56:22] wow that image has no pixels [17:56:27] 16x10 šŸ’€ [17:56:33] thats wild [17:57:07] the best part is then going to all the wiki pages to image is used on and changing it to .svg [17:57:26] it's extra fun when a whole bunch of the pages are importing from one source and you have to figure out what that is [17:57:39] it's extra extra fun when that source is wikidata [17:58:32] and extra extra extra fun when, once you modify that, the wiki pages don't update, so you have to manually go into the source code, and delete then re-type a character because APPARENTLY that's the only fix and you'll only figure that out after like 1ā€“2 hours of utter confusion [17:58:36] who the hell thought this was a good idea [17:58:42] šŸ˜­ [17:58:54] Rosa Rosso Bianco e Blu [17:58:55] fridge magnet [17:59:03] Pink Red White and Blue [17:59:09] wtf is going on here. [17:59:11] it's like the french flag but better [17:59:18] flag of sweden ā“ [17:59:25] that pink is horrid though [17:59:27] the swedes confound me too [17:59:39] identity crisis flag of sweden [18:00:03] broke the golden flag rule; don't put a crapton of noticeable text on it [18:00:18] these are genuinely making me angry. what is that. [18:00:20] graphic design is my passion [18:00:24] that cant be a finished flag surely [18:00:27] dog ear [18:00:41] [1/2] is anyone using a wiki with `Extension:InputBox` enabled [18:00:41] [2/2] I enabled it, but the `` tags aren't working [18:00:45] can't you just purge the page cache? [18:01:08] this literally just means "green with oblique black stripe" [18:01:20] šŸ˜­ [18:01:55] idk what u mean by that šŸ˜­ [18:02:13] its real [18:02:23] also, the Previews extension still isn't working for me [18:02:27] even though i enabled it ages ago [18:02:32] not really sure why it's not working [18:04:47] Are images fixed yet [18:04:53] Itā€™s buggy [18:04:55] Sometimes it shows up [18:04:56] the purge button, it makes the page refresh to show the most recent content [18:04:59] but usually doesnā€™t [18:05:02] [1/2] An update: The ssd drives on our swift server failed causing swiftac to crash. We carn't recover the data so are reinstalling. And will rebuild it like last time. [18:05:03] [2/2] (the images are safe as they are stored on the hdd) [18:05:04] awesome [18:05:27] ohh didnt know about that thanks [18:05:31] glad to hear it [18:05:53] thanks for the update, appreciate it <3 [18:06:17] Sorry that there's not been much progress and has taken us a time (me and void had things in life that we had to attend to and i neede void to see if he could recover the data which i don't have any expertise in) [18:06:57] no because its weird I have to retype it and publish it everytime [18:07:55] Your life is number 1 [18:08:24] And what about the XML DataDump? (I don't think it'd need several minutes to generate one) [18:08:33] [1/4] my wiki has something at the bottom of ever page saying: [18:08:33] [2/4] Re-review this revision [18:08:34] [3/4] Accuracy: Spot checked [18:08:34] [4/4] Comment: [18:08:44] No dumping is possible right now [18:09:10] XML Import & Export dump does work as long as the files arent to big. [18:10:13] [1/2] But not today lol [18:10:13] [2/2] I just submitted a XML one and it's stuck on 0 B for minutes [18:11:23] Then it is too large, try breaking it into smaller parts. [18:11:38] @Wajiro [18:11:45] I also had to try like 3 times to get it to work [18:12:16] @valeofvoid I have been using Import & Export data dumps all day. [18:12:49] can someone help me make the things go in the box like on wikipedia? [18:12:51] i have no idea then [18:18:23] you might want to make a support thread for this [18:19:12] so the 141 disaster returned in a different form ... one year later ... [18:19:23] man [18:20:12] Not really [18:22:16] Not the same, we can rebuild (and we also have a backup) [18:22:54] aight but it's still funny that it's again November [18:23:04] and drives issues [18:27:36] Nice, some progress [18:37:42] Miraheze images are down for me again, I only have the ones from pages ive imported. [18:40:04] Weā€™ve known this for over 24 hours now. [18:40:23] We really donā€™t need to be reminded every 5 minutes. [18:40:54] Cause I promise, it wonā€™t change a thing. [18:42:27] this is so sad [18:45:29] Also, AWB does not work on latest verson of WINE on 22.04.3 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish [18:45:37] Mine were completely working 30min ago. [18:46:48] What about it doesn't work [18:47:02] probably cache [18:47:59] yeah when the problem first happened i had about half my images, forced a cache purge just to be sure and sure enough it became 0 images right afterward [18:48:16] thankfully i have text stuff i can work on [18:48:54] any ETA when we can upload files again? also, is this the best place to monitor for when that is fixed? or twitter better? [18:49:37] No, monitor #announcements and #tech-community [18:49:52] Congratulations, the image is either hosted on Wikimedia Commons, or it was located in your local browser cache until completely normal caching practices removed it. We still donā€™t need reminders every 5 minutes that somethings broken that was acknowledged over 24 hours ago. [18:50:35] Geez ok, you don't need to be rude about it. [18:51:10] I find @zppix rather polite based on some of the comments we've had in the last few days [18:51:35] Ah, so Wikimedia commons is where the random images came from [18:51:43] Cannot install DotNet35 so AWB does not run [18:51:56] A number of people in this server need to take a serious look at their attitude towards people working extremely hard to get things right for you in their own time for free. [18:52:00] Yes any images not hosted within Mirahezeā€™s infra will behave as normal [18:52:13] If you are not happy with what you're getting, you are not welcome. Please depart. [18:52:28] Same applies if you wish to insult any of our team. [18:52:28] man [18:53:41] That's worryingly old [18:53:47] Is that the latest AWB? [18:53:53] Probably [18:54:00] How do I get the verified wiki user role? [18:54:18] type /auth [18:54:31] It wouldnt surprise me that AWS is using DotNet35 i donā€™t remember the last time it has gotten updated [18:55:11] Lol im so used to yelling at Amazon AWB autocorrects to AWS lol [18:56:35] I mean tbh, I did find the reply by Zppix unnecessarily blunt [18:57:01] Could have been said less sarcasticly [18:57:10] Ye I just checked and it really is that bad [18:57:31] @eytirth I don't have a solution for that unfortunately [18:57:52] Whats it say when it tries to install it? [18:58:10] My ability to read sarcasm doesn't exist well so something sarcastic will seem fine to me [18:59:33] I can only find dotnet 6 & 7 in Jammy @zppix [19:00:29] Oh I didnā€™t even realize it wasnt windowsā€¦ [19:00:35] [1/3] We keep getting 5xx Gateway errors on static.miraheze.org since 2 days now. [19:00:35] [2/3] Consequently the pages are working fine, but all pictures are broken links. [19:00:36] [3/3] Is this a known issue? Can someone perhaps help? [19:00:55] yeah your support with AWB is going to far and few between then [19:01:07] Yea, @eytirth is running using wine on Ubuntu [19:01:10] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407504500136607745/1175449160208617574 [19:01:17] Please see #announcements [19:02:25] maybe make a site wide notice at this point? [19:03:00] [1/2] I wonder why people don't go to the announcements channel when there's an issue/problem [19:03:01] [2/2] This goes to the majority of discord servers [19:03:47] a lot of people might think its an issue on their end [19:03:48] I should note that import requests are currently on hold due to the swift outage, as in most case access to files is required [19:03:50] Frankly, it wouldnt get read [19:04:03] Thats why I didnt do one on Meta [19:04:10] Most discord announcements are usually random fluff tbf [19:04:18] My experiences anyways [19:05:36] some servers just use it to spam garbage [19:05:36] "surely i must be the first to notice image issues i gotta ask in general asap instead of looking at announcements channel located directly above it" [19:06:37] Oof, the servers I'm in have a separate channel for staff [19:07:04] Off topic but I like your choice of pronouns Azzy, might go with take/your/guess [19:07:04] [1/4] I googled a number of times in the last 2 days, but nothing. [19:07:05] [2/4] Just now I joined this discord, inspected 3 or 4 channels, and all unreads, searched for "static.miraheze.org" and "gateway", but nothing. [19:07:05] [3/4] I didn't get around to #announcements yet, but I did read that no one would bite if I asked a question here. [19:07:05] [4/4] It might help if the announcement contained a couple of relevant keywords. [19:07:53] why didn't you read the announcement? [19:07:54] Seems like a nice balance between staying vague with pronouns without being too generic or aggro [19:08:22] Can we please keep it civil [19:08:23] I updated the channel description [19:08:54] [1/2] It is though? [19:08:54] [2/2] I'm not sensing any aggression [19:09:30] My level of what's inappropriate is pretty high and even I take issue with some comments in here [19:09:39] Example [19:09:44] Ah [19:09:51] I ignored that [19:09:54] šŸ˜”sorry [19:10:30] @dvdexe I suggest striking your comment [19:11:11] k you dont have to ping me about it [19:11:38] And that comment [19:11:57] The undertone can be detected [19:12:24] ā˜¹ļøim not trying to have a tone [19:12:32] You do [19:14:41] where can I find the CSS information for skins? [19:14:55] i want to see how Vector.css is set up [19:15:11] there's non ready list of classes/id lol [19:15:15] I told you before [19:15:17] What's AWB? [19:15:24] AutoWikiBrowser [19:15:45] [[w:WP:AWB]] [19:15:45] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:AWB [19:15:46] [19:16:07] [1/3] here, if you'll find it useful [19:16:07] [2/3] [19:16:08] [3/3] [19:16:56] thank you [19:17:08] i forgot that you can also check out the stuff in Inspect [19:17:17] that's the usual process [19:17:51] you can ignore UI things tho [19:18:10] I'm just annoyed by white default UI when wiki is colored lol [19:18:57] I have had to stop my intrusive thoughts from making meta black and yellow before šŸ˜‚ [19:22:25] if you really want to, you can kinda see it in inspect by clicking the "load" link [19:23:55] @zppix I get told something about the dotnet35 package being broken in my wine verson [19:24:17] Its possible your version of wine doesnt support dotnet35 [19:24:28] |Probly, it is quite newI think [19:24:57] It is wine-6.0.3 (Ubuntu 6.0.3~repack-1) WINE on 22.04.3 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish (edited) [19:27:08] does anyone know how I can make it so that all my headings have `ā˜†` [19:27:22] e.g. ā˜† History [19:27:37] i assume it'd use JS, but idk where to start lol [19:34:09] [1/4] this is as far as i've gotten atm [19:34:10] [2/4] ```js [19:34:10] [3/4] var heading = document.getElementById(".h2"); [19:34:10] [4/4] ``` [19:34:24] idk how to output the text with JS tho [19:35:03] my first thought is the css :before selector [19:36:17] oh sick, thank you [19:36:28] exactly what i was hoping existed lol [19:36:44] <:KgnAmn_heart:1150565942212964464> [19:37:05] You might need to make sure that wine is set to the correct Windows edition. Win7,win8,win10,winxp, etc. [19:37:28] Maybe, tbh feel unwell right now [19:39:41] [1/6] finna see if this works [19:39:41] [2/6] ```css [19:39:42] [3/6] .mw-headline:not(.no-star)::before { [19:39:42] [4/6] content: 'ā˜†'; [19:39:42] [5/6] } [19:39:43] [6/6] ``` [19:41:28] well, it kinda works [19:41:46] the star still shows up if i use `class="no-star"` tho [19:41:51] probably just have to fiddle a bit [19:41:56] Also another thing that you should do is make sure you installed wine from the system package installer and not off the internet, the package installer version is made to be most compatible with your Linux Distribution and Version. [19:42:09] I did use sudo apt install wine [19:44:52] Oh ok, if it still doesn't work after matching wlthe windows edition, you should uninstall wine and reinstall it, I had to do that once because sometimes while installing it from the terminal files get misplaced or go missing entirely, I usually use the Ubuntu Software app to install it. It has worked more often than the terminal. [19:47:21] so this is an interesting issue [19:47:23] and kind of an annoying one [19:47:38] how do I make the class apply to the `` as well? [19:47:54] bc rn class `no-star` is being overridden by `mw-headline` [19:48:27] which might just be a flaw of using `mw-headline`, but still [20:57:43] hello [21:08:14] .no-star span.mw-headline will override it [21:08:48] ohh i see what youre doing [21:09:27] how do I get custom CSS for infobox's on vector 2022 [21:09:27] ``h2:not(.no-star) span.mw-headline::before {`` [21:10:35] nvm [21:33:47] hey guys, anyone online that can help me with a html/css error? [21:34:00] [1/4] wikitext {{Composition bar|198|618|#D31518}} [21:34:00] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Composition_bar [21:34:01] [2/4] returns errors without end: [21:34:01] [3/4]
[21:34:55] lord my eyes [21:35:43] yeah haha heres wikipedia for reference: [21:36:16] problem is I don't really know where exactly this error points to. What is the "[" I'm supposed to fix? [21:38:46] Do you have all relevent modules attached to this template? [21:38:56] I guess to start with the basic question [21:39:34] I thought so, yes [21:39:51] Check all the links to see if there is an extra [. For in wiki links [], for external links [[]] [21:39:51] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ [21:40:31] is there an easy way to check? with larger templates like this one, my miraheze instance tends to crash when I try to import templates plus all their dependencies [21:40:48] which wiki are you on? [21:41:10] i dont think thats it - this happens in every context I try it [21:41:14] my url? [21:41:26] Ok [21:41:31] yes, if you post it without the http, it'll post [21:41:49] konores.miraheze.org [21:42:06] Please consider using /auth [21:42:16] Any more updates on thumbnailgate? [21:42:18] oh sorry should I do that? [21:42:48] done [21:42:54] so you don't have Template:Min [21:43:12] is that it? O.O [21:43:17] It's not a gate. Please grow up. [21:43:18] konores.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Composition_bar&action=edit - You can see the redlinked templates below the edit box btw [21:43:43] Thank you!!! I'll try that [21:44:01] Try importing that, but I think your still missing Module:String and maybe one or two others for the template [21:44:25] Dude, figure of speech! Jesus christ you really take things so literaly! It's a pun of the whole thumbnail situation. [21:44:46] And were done [21:45:13] first of all thank you so much! I just started editing, only a few days ago --- I find the whole template importing very trial and error like. Is there anything to go on about it in a smart, structured way? [21:45:30] White which problem? [21:45:38] Depends on the template [21:45:51] Unrelated to anyone thats still chatting in here at the moment [21:45:53] Module:String should be imported already [21:46:29] A smart structured way is to not always import from Wikipedia, though understandably it can provide a very good base for your needs. But sometimes with templates you don't know you need it until you find out you do, so trial and error is a fine start. [21:46:52] this is such a great tip by the way, I'll take that to heart! [21:47:15] That's encouraging, thank you for the guidance! [21:47:36] wow, thank you so much <3<3<3<3 [21:47:43] Yea I've been importing templates just to find that the templates contain redirects, then I have to import those.šŸ˜¬ [21:47:43] I imported all templates and it worked [21:47:59] look at this beauty [21:48:05] don't be afraid to tinker, you can always revert or delete. Don't be afraid to get accustomed to the history tab of your pages. [21:48:15] What's that for?? [21:48:30] Party overview for a country in my worldbuilding setting [21:48:57] Oh ok, does it auto update or something? [21:49:35] No, it's hardcoded unfortunately - I don't know if that's something that's implemented in other wikis or if it's possible at all, but a very interesting thought! [21:50:06] [1/3] | {{Composition bar|198|618|#D31518}} [21:50:06] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Composition_bar [21:50:06] [2/3] | {{Composition bar|214|550|#D31518}} [21:50:06] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Composition_bar [21:50:06] [3/3] put that inside of a wikitable and if you have all dependencies, it'll look like above šŸ˜„ [21:50:57] Yeah I'm finding that out more and more... it's a bit scary, but very cool too! adventurous! [21:51:11] thanks all! I have to sign off now, but this helped sooo much [21:54:39] Oh ok, I will try to figure out a way to auto update it, I am hoping to use it to show the amount of pages in each article space or category. [21:57:46] Honeslty avoid importing from wikipedia if at all possible, their templates are WAY too overengineered than what a MH wiki will need in 99.9% of cases, and often will be hard to find anyone who can fully understand, and thus help with them [22:11:00] noticed older wikis tend to have overenginered stuff in general [22:11:11] tcrf has a good couple [22:11:35] it's so complicated sometimes [22:14:01] my only guess to why is it just was a different era and people didn't have access to the tools we have today [22:18:12] I used to be proud of our wiki not being an overengineered mess but now that all our templates are being updated to be translatable and to avoid using Arrays it's starting to become one :P Everything is so much better and so much less understandable haha. [22:19:09] The thing is I have no Ideah how to make templates, but I do know what the templates that are made on wikipedia due because they explain it in detail, so i just import the templates then change them as needed. [22:20:39] does anyone know what extension did this: [22:20:42] [[mw:Templates]] [22:20:42] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Templates [22:20:43] [22:21:18] Does anyone know what extension did this? [22:27:20] also this keeps showing up on pages & I never inputed a template by that name: [22:28:48] looks like part of the notice template [22:37:00] oh i didnt think of that [22:48:13] thanks that was it [22:48:21] hi [22:49:24] hello? [22:49:35] @stealthmanmc Hi [22:50:30] how do i make an infobox [22:51:44] @stealthmanmc https://trog.qgl.org/20140923/setting-up-infobox-templates-in-mediawiki-v1-23/ [22:53:32] why is it so complicated [22:55:02] that seems kinda outdated [22:55:08] [1/2] we have a better guide [22:55:08] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Legroom/Infoboxes [22:56:01] portable infoboxes are the easiest [22:56:30] thanks, i just posted the first one I found [22:59:57] lmages not working yet [23:00:04] <:droidcry:1126190447178567681> [23:02:34] yea they are working on it though [23:12:31] An update/explanation for why it been taking this long was posted earlier here: https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1176221996271534170 [23:14:03] Is it fixed now? [23:16:55] It will be announced in #announcements [23:17:06] Please be patient [23:26:47] I just hope nothing got deleted [23:27:14] Data wasnt stored on the SSDs it was just what allows swift to work [23:27:24] So everything is safe its just rebuilding everything [23:28:02] [1/2] SSD is just for cache [23:28:02] [2/2] But I wonder how it is possible to end up with the WD Green, one of the worst SSD on earth [23:28:53] WD Green is as same tier as reused chinese SSDs [23:30:05] lets stop criticizing the choices the miraheze creators & admins have made. [23:30:31] Thats something imma look into [23:30:36] Causeā€¦ yeah [23:31:13] pretty sad as I know that thing was dead 2 times, not the first time [23:31:30] Different drives [23:31:56] We are sending the ones we got on warranty to the DC [23:35:43] I was just reading through this so is the server hosted in a home ? [23:36:57] nope, hosted in datacenter or something like that [23:36:57] Datacenter in the UK [23:37:35] I thought we had one in the US aswell [23:37:40] No [23:39:11] and they had a power cut which killed some of the equipment ? [23:43:21] Unlikely, the SSD can die at any time without notices which is why it is more likely to be used for cache and non-critical stuffs. [23:44:50] Traditional HDD and other "slow drive" with big RAM > some SSD [23:48:46] For these confused this is very simplified version of what occurs when you visit Miraheze [23:48:55] [1/2] Right so what basically happened I'm assuming that the ssd died and now they are rebuilding the system. [23:48:55] [2/2] Meaning probably a lot of websites are affected not just miraheze I'm assuming ? [23:49:23] Only MH as they use their own hardware [23:49:54] Typo corrections: Intern =Internet, OV= OVH, Yo=You [23:50:37] is there a higher quality? i cant read it [23:51:37] Try opening it in browser [23:51:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1176308183933923381/IMG_0718.png?ex=656e655d&is=655bf05d&hm=4a4863ebe55c2cbdc9dbdae6e6f08ef43bee8c9243b51778231c20d52990b134& [23:52:50] Beautiful [23:53:58] I did it is all blurred(im on a laptop) [23:54:45] Actually I just realized on that graph you need to swap the first ā€œOVHā€™s internet service providerā€ with ovh [23:54:57] For some reason when I saved it it didnt save the switch [23:55:19] And i just remembered I can look at it on my phonešŸ¤£ [23:58:35] How do I get the "community portal" link to show under a new heading labeled "contribute" (on the sidebar)? [23:58:45] OV and OVH is different? [23:58:59] OV should read as OVH, it was a typo [23:59:18] But where it says OVH it should say its provider then the thing after it should say OVH