[00:01:53] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Interface/Sidebar [00:03:02] probably just fixing the link, you don't nee the whole "wiki:" part. assuming it's the page title, you just need Community Portal|Community Portal [00:03:59] the link works fine, I just cant get the second heading to apear or the link to go bleloe where it would be if it was there. [00:05:11] never mind i got it to work [00:05:49] was it that or something else? [00:07:02] no the link was fine, it just wouln't change add the new heading when clicking preview, I had to actually save the page. [00:09:28] oh, yeah I see [00:09:58] Womp womp yea preview don’t always work on that stuff [00:10:22] I swear the universe is conspiring against me starting this wiki 🙂 [00:10:43] Then tell it to fuck off and do it anyways 😎 [00:11:37] my wiki is silly and frivolous so I'm not willing to fight the universe just yet. [00:23:57] The universe has been conspiring against mine since the day I started it. [00:24:28] Nooo this just happened: [00:33:15] concocts diagram [00:33:34] Yes thats much better lol [00:34:03] I did mine in like 3 minutes on my phone [00:57:00] So can we edit pages right now? [00:57:12] or are edits right now at risk of being wiped [00:58:42] edits wont get wiped [01:03:57] You are fine to do whatever [01:04:09] You just may come across issues with certain functions [01:11:20] Upload small files? [01:11:34] No files cannot be uploaded atm [01:11:44] ah darn [01:15:34] you can get some files by exporting the file page from wikipedia and using the import tool on your wiki. [01:15:55] We discourage importing from wikipedia [01:16:07] 99% of their stuff is overly complicated to use [01:16:23] And imports have to be very small to work onwiki [01:16:36] or any media wiki [01:17:26] huh, that works for files? [01:17:56] iirc there's a size limit of around 50kb-ish for self-imports [01:17:57] yea i found it out by accident, I was importing a page and the files came with it. [01:18:03] anything larger and that goes to phabricator [01:18:26] Please note that if the file is a bit large (~ >2MB) you will need to request an import as this cannot be done here due to technical limitations. [01:18:35] neat, I was wondering about that before [01:18:36] ah 2mb it is then [01:19:07] but i was able to do one like 2 times as large(i think it is having trouble detecting the file size) [01:20:14] also you cannot request imports [01:20:25] Its not a hard file size limit, it just depends on when NGINX times out [01:21:17] oh ok, that makes sense because i got a 504 on a file definately smaller than the "limit" & some larger than it worked. [01:22:52] It's possible to admin block another admin on mediawiki? [01:23:50] how do I make a infobox on the side [01:24:42] Technically yes but if they still have admin they can unblock theirself [01:25:42] [1/2] Yes, admins can be blocked like any other user. They will not be able to edit or use their tools. Depending on the settings, a blocked admin may still be able to unblock themselves. On Wikipedia, blocked admins can't unblock themselves, but they can block the admin that blocked them, intended as a last-ditch safeguard against a compromised account. I can't remembe [01:25:42] [2/2] r if that setting is default on MediaWiki. [01:26:23] is their an article wizard in our miraheze wikis? [01:30:19] No [01:30:29] That is very english wikipedia specific [01:31:01] oh, darn it I was hoping to include one in my wiki [01:36:06] uhm???? are images down? [01:37:05] yeah... [01:38:19] I wish I could pin a message to the bottom of the chat window above the area you type [01:39:19] For a few days yeah [01:39:26] You could rename the chat to say #general-images-are-down [01:40:04] Gotta wait on miraheze ninjas to break into the cyber criminal layer where theyre storing all our wiki images [01:40:59] No.. that would break the irc relay and that is bad form [01:41:15] ^ [01:41:31] also i think thatd be tideous [01:41:39] Oh [01:41:43] Isn’t relay by channel ID? [01:42:00] lmao [01:42:09] That's what I thought [01:42:15] There’s sticky bot [01:42:27] But messages can’t be removed from IRC [01:42:48] So unless the bot was exempted spam to hell [01:43:02] We came up with a potential solution [01:43:10] Oh? [01:43:24] Were gonna see about making dyno auto respond [01:43:41] Ah [01:43:48] To keywords [01:43:53] Or like a command [01:43:58] Keywords [01:44:04] *faqimages [01:44:11] Cause im tired of repeating myself [01:44:27] Smart [01:44:49] Were also putting up a Miraheze-wide notice [01:44:55] That will show on every wiki [01:45:46] Makes sense [01:45:49] That's a good idea [01:46:00] Can users be blocked from the IRC relay! [01:46:05] Yes [01:46:07] And have [01:46:30] Maybe use sticky bot, as you were saying a message pinned to the bottom [01:46:43] No need if we get dyno doing it [01:46:50] Do you have admin perms on every miraheze wikis? [01:46:56] Plus we really dont want more new bots [01:47:30] No he only a meta admin [01:47:35] That’s Stewards [01:47:49] Will Dyno just respond to the word "Image" or "Upload" or something like that? [01:47:51] Oh [01:47:53] Not currently. I currently juggle being the only dedicated administration on meta (excluding Void) and devwiki, and me and one person run testwiki with me primarily doing that too [01:48:14] And when the image issue to be resolved? [01:48:22] Eventually [01:48:30] That’s why I suggested sticky, Dyno could have lots of false positives and negative [01:48:47] Im not worried about that tbh, worse case scenario is it over informs [01:48:56] True [01:49:04] It could also under inform [01:49:17] Lower chance I think [01:49:19] Worst case [01:49:23] Someone asks [01:49:25] It still beats me being up until 2AM every day til its fixed [01:49:31] Someone else manually triggers it [01:49:35] if it does somebody can just trigger the bot [01:49:43] True [01:49:57] Maybe make one keyword like *faqimages [01:50:24] I think were going with images or images down something like that [01:50:28] So it should catch 99% [01:50:56] We might want to include files & files down. [01:51:09] Most people have been mentioning images [01:51:11] "images, files, pics" + "down, broken" [01:51:20] should cover most cases [01:51:25] upload also [01:51:40] gets mentioned a lot [01:51:43] usually when ppl mention upload they'd say upload files/pics/images i believe [01:51:47] so that should get caught [01:52:06] Can always add later [01:52:07] But no to answer your questions I have no global onwiki rights, my complete role list can be found on my discord bio [01:52:20] For the message on the wikis we should mention that importing a page from XML still works for most cases. [01:52:29] You’re a board member? [01:52:42] Of the organization that will eventually control Miraheze, yes [01:53:07] Oh is that why I hear both Miraheze Limited and Miraheze Foundation? [01:53:17] Was asking cause you don’t have the discord role [01:53:22] Hmm, only one trigger per response, and only ten total possible responses, not very fun for setting up autorespond [01:53:23] Yes [01:53:41] Booooooooo [01:53:43] Wow they changed it used to be unlimited triggers [01:53:46] Come on Dyno [01:54:10] Maybe someone could code a new bot from scratch [01:54:14] Just to respond [01:54:24] Limited is who currently controls Miraheze. Foundation is the US based organization that will be taking control [01:54:34] Thats a lot of work for really no reward [01:55:11] I know some bot dev stuff so i know enough that I can say it’s really not that hard, just listening to messages in a channel, if it has a key word reply with a premade message [01:55:15] When the new one takes controll will they get rid of limited? [01:55:17] Actually pretty simple [01:55:22] Yes [01:56:01] But yeah it would be pretty limited use [01:56:08] Its not the difficulty its setting it up and making sure it works right, its just not worth it [01:56:15] True [01:56:21] also, we need a place to host the bot [01:56:22] Debugging is a bitch and a half [01:56:47] Might be possible to use an existing Miraheze server [01:56:54] I mean anyone with a computer could host a bot of any kind its not very resource intensive [01:57:08] yeah if somebody is willing to do it it's fair game [01:57:08] It’s just a Python script [01:57:24] Something like this? Not even a few hundred lines [01:57:36] my bot uses Java so i can't lay claim to the number of lines [01:57:42] Without configuration in commands it’s dummy simple [01:57:47] Dang [01:57:50] Discord py btw [01:58:03] but i know it's not overly difficult, though yeah there are other considerations [01:58:15] JDA gang [01:58:52] The one Java bot I know [01:58:52] absolute beginner and needs someone to hold their hand in making a wiki gang [01:59:49] welcome then, feel free to ask any questions [01:59:59] that's a nice status lol [02:00:02] i joined earlier today... i have made only one page [02:00:03] is it yours? [02:00:10] other than the main one of course [02:00:19] and that one page has all red links [02:01:02] [1/2] building a wiki from scratch is quite laborous, yeah [02:01:02] [2/2] but hey, seeing all those red links become blue is a reward [02:01:26] gonna take that quote with me.. <:CaineStare:1172031277625528360> [02:01:58] all the best fam [02:02:04] lol [02:02:44] oh, i just noticed the serverwide notice of the file upload thing YIPPEE [02:03:09] uh yeah it's been some time unfortunately [02:03:45] nah i been aware of that for a while [02:03:47] discord server notice or wiki server notice? [02:03:54] wiki server [02:04:07] oh its not on my wiki yet [02:04:11] reload maybe [02:04:15] i did [02:04:33] wait I might have blocked the banners [02:05:20] oh, sent that a bit late [02:05:35] welp I wont beable to reenable them look: [02:05:48] looks like only some serrvers have the notice? [02:06:00] I cant access my preferences [02:06:15] is anyone else having this problem? [02:06:59] nope, can access mine just fine [02:07:20] Likely cache [02:07:28] It’ll update eventually [02:07:33] i see [02:08:16] would clearing the cache work, Ive had this problem for 24 hours. [02:08:24] idk why but it feels nice having learned something about wiki writing on my own [02:08:25] Huh [02:08:39] posting internal links = euphoria [02:09:22] speaking of which, is it possible to count the number of bytes a user has contributed? [02:09:33] i couldn't acces them yesterday either. [02:09:57] I have no idea what youre talking about [02:10:20] woops sorry i tagged the wrong message [02:11:16] I haven't been able to acces my preferences for 24 hours. [02:14:04] @orduin do you have access to look into this? [02:25:15] Create phab task [02:26:16] doesn't phab need a captcha? [02:26:42] Supposibily phab’s captchas are broken [02:27:16] Shit [02:28:13] :O [02:28:53] Wait wheres the captcha? making task? I thought it was login but I logged in just fine [02:29:11] Maybee it only does it every once in a while [02:29:17] 🤷‍♂️ i predate most these fancy antispam measures [02:29:55]