[00:27:33] Please don't ping at random. For technical problems like this, it is best to report it on [[Phabricator]]. Though, if you can provide me a full copy of the error text, I can look into it now. [00:27:33] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phabricator [00:27:34]

[00:29:20] [265c0967d3bd544c7449511f] 2023-11-22 00:13:26: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia Assert\PreconditionException" [00:29:53] Sorry, [265c0967d3bd544c7449511f] 2023-11-22 00:13:26: Fatal exception of type "Wikimedia Assert\PreconditionException" [00:44:10] I tried switching to the visual editor but it's very slow also I don't think uploading still works ? [00:51:08] [1/2] The former issue seems to be caused by the fact that you created a namespace that conflicts with the existing Project: namespace. The project namespace is aliased to the sitename, which is the same as the namespace you created. This means that the old pages in Project: namespace from before you created the new namespace are broken. You can either delete or [00:51:09] [2/2] rename the custom Histropedia namespace, or I can migrate the broken pages to the new namespace to be fixed later. [00:51:41] uploading works [00:53:31] please migrate the broken pages. [00:57:57] 👍 [01:00:20] I'm wondering if there's any resources for Miraheze newbies learning how to use the program? I am totally new to any kind of scripting and youtube hasn't been helpful as far as tutorials go. Apologies is this is adressed somewhere in the server already and I didn't see it [01:04:07] Done, please check if it's still broken [01:07:10] Yes they are all working [01:10:01] They seem to all be working but I cant rename the Discord Page, it is displaying Washington County History Wiki:Discord but if i click move page it says the page is Histropedia:Discord. [01:10:16] [1/4] Visual Editor is the easiest, you can enable it in your wiki settings [01:10:17] [2/4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:VisualEditor/User_guide [01:10:17] [3/4] and some basic wiki code (for non-visual editor) info can be found here [01:10:17] [4/4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Formatting [01:11:32] try refreshing your browser cache? [01:12:55] tried and it didn't work: [01:13:36] purge the page? <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> it's under "more" near the edit buttons [01:13:57] Then you need to fix the problem with the conflicting namespace names [01:14:08] I have been noticing that saving from the visual editor is some what slow now [01:15:10] purging worked, i dont know why clering my browsers cache didn't [01:18:40] they're different caches iirc, yours vs the site's? [01:24:23] oh [02:06:21] idk if i should ask here [02:06:32] but can i pls get some feedback on this page i made for an ethnic group? [02:06:38] like what should i add cause im having block [02:06:51] https://oblasia.miraheze.org/wiki/N%C8%A7onori_people [02:24:38] [1/2] How does one clear a wiki's templates? [02:24:39] [2/2] The templates i have currently make it difficult to make replacements [02:32:24] Ok i got that [02:36:05] ok now i just cant figure out tabber [02:37:38] do you have the extension? [02:46:21] Manage this wiki's extensions > Parser hooks > Tabs is on [02:49:47] I don't know what to add but I have rewritten that page so that it has better grammar & fluency. [02:49:51] you should prob switch to TabberNeue [02:50:20] [1/2] thats what im trying to get [02:50:20] [2/2] ? [02:51:04] it's a newer version of tabs, Tabs itself is really old [02:51:56] Ok tabberneue was right above it and on at same time [02:52:23] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TabberNeue [02:52:35] has formatting info [02:53:20] Alright tabberNeue works [03:27:29] @le.goldenwolf Thanks for bringing up the tabber feature, it it very helpful. [03:40:44] we are so back [03:41:11] Upload files too? [03:41:18] idk [03:41:18] yeap [03:41:34] is the script finished running? [03:49:16] Is there a Discord bot that can link wiki pages of Miraheze wikis like Wiki Operating Buddy? [03:54:17] you mean this one? [03:54:22] [[Meta]] [03:54:22] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta [03:54:23]

[04:03:58] so images are uploadable now but embedded ones are still broken> [04:10:41] Getting this error when trying to upload. How to fix this? [04:15:45] the script must not be finished #announcements [04:21:13] @screwllum_ [04:23:58] [1/2] try to refresh and upload again [04:23:58] [2/2] seems like either the script hasn't finished or error exclusive to upload from editor, I uploaded couple of small images w/o problems via Special:Upload [04:27:09] Thanks. Will upload via Special:Upload for now. [04:35:03] Would anyone be willing to help fill in some of the missing pages on my wiki if they have any spare time? Any help would be appreciated. This could takes months If i do it alone because I started from scratch(besides some template imports). My Wiki: https://washingtoncountyhistory.miraheze.org/wiki/Regions [04:52:06] I hope you understand that editors should have knowledge of the topic to create normal articles? [04:54:21] Yes my wiki is a History wiki, I just want help filling is the basic stuff for the regions so there aren't red links, (and basic facts for each of the countries/states that I have listed), I will end up doing most of the states, they can do what they have the most knowledge of. [04:55:02] I will also bring going more detail into the history of each place over time. [04:55:58] Also that logo is going to be changed(once again), this time to a photo of pangea. [04:58:52] you probably also need to notify miraheze about the scope change of the wiki, if you're going for just history now, that might be too general [05:02:19] I mean I could narrow it down to just the USA. There is just so much interesting history that Wikipedia doesn't accept onto their site. [05:04:45] I dont think there is a problem there. As far as i can see here, there isnt a scope change currently. It appears to always have been just history. [05:05:33] pretty sure it was Washington County history before [05:06:18] oh, i see [05:06:28] ye probably best to notify then [05:09:44] In what way exactly would I go about notifying miraheze about widening the scope? [05:10:13] that, i do not know <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [05:13:37] I guess I could ping one other the board members here on discord and tell them, but thats a little too direct. [05:14:32] Thats a surefire way to get muted [05:14:42] Follow the Content Policy [05:14:57] It says put a note on the Steward’s Noticeboard [05:15:01] Explaining the new scope [05:15:06] And wait for approval [05:15:16] Patiently [05:17:05] I never said I would actually ping them, like I said that is too direct. Also thanks for telling me how. [05:30:50] Hey if I've got a wiki formatting question is that somethin to do in support or is that more like adminy stuff? I'm pulling my hair out trying to work out this #if switch and i need another set of eyes on it before im bald [05:33:06] you can make a support thread for stuff like that yes [05:33:48] word ok. i'll probably take a few more cracks at it if only because no one should ever be looking at my code (im a shit coder) [05:35:19] parser functions can be a pain at first, ask away [06:11:31] Thank goodness images and stuff are back [06:11:40] yee [06:11:43] Are XML imports back as well? [06:11:54] I suppose [06:12:14] <:PamThumbsUp:606252632339775572> [06:19:36] Images still don't work on my wiki despite working on every other wiki I've checked... [06:21:48] Try clearing the cache and purging the pages. [06:29:25] I'd already tried clearing the cache. Purging doesn't seem to change anything either. It's a new wiki, less than two weeks old, if that matters. [06:30:46] Wiki age shouldn't matter I think [06:30:55] My wiki is also less than 2 weeks old and images are working [06:34:56] What happens if you try to open a file from the file page? [06:35:05] (follow to original url) [06:39:31] I get a page with an "Unauthorized | The server could not verify you are authorized" message. This happens before and after purging the page on every file I've tried. [06:40:37] tried opening in incognito mode or another browser? [06:41:31] because I can tell than when images started working some users could see all images right away, some only home on the same wiki [06:42:48] Yes, multiple devices, even. [06:54:16] if it's a really new wiki, i wonder if there's a chance that the script they ran earlier missed it [06:55:18] would have to ask SRE [07:09:44] Also your internet router also might be storing cache separately, if so you'll just have to wait. [07:13:41] Hmmayne the script hasn't reached your wiki yet [07:13:47] Sorry for ping [07:14:56] Otherwise this yeah ^ [07:15:42] Does your wiki's url start with one of the last letters of the alphabet? [07:15:52] Afaik scripts usually run alphabetically [07:16:08] Images are displaying for me on other miraheze wikis, would that be possible if that is in fact the issue? [07:16:37] If you never visited the wikis before it's not an indicator for cache [07:17:35] That really sounds like #announcements but if it persists for a day you should contact SRE [07:24:00] My wiki's name starts with H, so would it be likely at this point that the script missed it? [07:25:31] Is the script going by actual wiki name or the URL(I changed the name of mine today) [07:27:00] Depends on if you have visited those wikis since the outage. [07:28:01] I advice to wait instead of speculating [07:28:12] clearly only SRE can tell at this point [07:33:08] quick question: are newlines not allowed in the title attribute of `` elements? [07:33:22] True [07:35:05] I think so [07:35:18] ah, unfortunate [07:35:34] I doubt `
` will render inside title [07:35:47] nope, tested
, \n and even just hitting enter [07:35:52] hitting enter produced just a space [07:36:14] title is very very primitive thing [07:37:12] i read that it's part of the html standard as a whole [07:37:36] yeah [07:38:15] I meant that it doesn't offers much [07:40:11] i see. was just trying to introduce a simple tooltip [07:40:25] and i think i found a solution to it [07:40:30] thanks for the insight though [07:46:02] <572943> miraheze status update...? [07:46:18] <572943> I thought you guys were opening a new nonprofit or something [08:01:42] still going on, bureaucracy is a slow behemoth [08:02:19] there's simple tooltips extension, and you can make CSS or JS based complex tooltips [10:29:34] anyone know some articles that have infoboxes in it? i wanna check how its done because im so damn tired to read the paragraph [10:39:46] #Need help with infoboxes check out this thread, we went through how to set up and use portable infoboxes [10:40:09] its the best place to start imo [10:46:02] awesome, i think i skipped that section multiple times already lmao [10:47:26] and if you have more questions i suggest making another thread [11:05:06] how do you delete all pages one user has made [11:11:52] oh is it this [11:12:20] [1/2] is it possible to use TemplateStyles to change the background of an article if the template is on the page? ie something akin to doing [11:12:20] [2/2] `html, body { background-image: url(); }`? [11:13:03] I think not [11:13:44] I was asked once to give individual styling to an entire page and trued to do w/ TS, it didn't work properly [11:14:10] idk about CSS extension tho [11:57:42] I think TS is scoped to a certain area, it's likely you can't reach body [11:57:57] Yeah, its scoped to the parser I found. [11:57:57] Or article container [12:01:49] happened when i uploaded a png [12:02:59] and it also happens with msupload [12:03:29] does infoboxes made from portableinfobox meant to look like this when publishing? [12:03:42] I tried with CSS extension, and it somewhat worked but I think there is a deeper issue with Cosmos. [12:05:28] [1/2] when you just create them - yes [12:05:29] [2/2] template is seemingly untill you actually give it information on normal page [12:06:11] try Special:Upload, same problem? [12:06:51] not gonna like, setting infoboxes really scratches my head [12:07:20] do you know how actually use them? [12:08:39] [1/5] im following what the wiki for infoboxes said and some support threads people made, i guess you just clear the html and do the [12:08:39] [2/5] {{TestInfobox [12:08:40] [3/5] |image = image.png [12:08:40] [4/5] |data1 = test [12:08:40] [5/5] }}? [12:08:57] that's what i do with my portable infoboxes [12:09:07] nothing to clear [12:10:31] [1/2] on `Template:` page you createthe template, the card, roughly speaking, w/ those HTML like tags and fancy code [12:10:31] [2/2] on `normal pages` you then type the `{{...}}` code and fill out parameters, like you fill out fields in the card [12:10:31] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:... [12:12:01] what you see now on `Template:TestInfobox` practically means nothing, you should actually use infobox on normal page to see it working [12:25:37] well uh it somewhat worked [12:25:54] bit clutter but this is all i could think of [12:29:05] nevermind [12:32:59] did you try and call the template inside the template [12:33:19] you'll want to use the `` tag [12:33:20] i don't know how i would replace the {{PAGENAME}} [12:33:20] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:PAGENAME [12:33:33] wdym [12:33:52] wait acutally no scratch that [12:33:56] that's the default, you can set it when you use the template to something else if you want [12:34:08] or you can also just change it to not be the default [12:34:27] i dont know what i would put here [12:35:29] the name of the template [12:35:45] but yeah you're calling the template inside itself [12:35:57] you'd want to do for example [12:37:01] [1/9] ``` [12:37:01] [2/9] [12:37:02] [3/9] Example: [12:37:02] [4/9] {{TestInfobox [12:37:02] [5/9] | title = Literally me [12:37:03] [6/9] | image = skibidi.gif [12:37:03] [7/9] }} [12:37:03] [8/9] /noinclude [12:37:04] [9/9] ``` [12:37:30] [1/4] {{TestInfobox [12:37:30] [2/4] | title = Literally me [12:37:30]