[00:43:05] [1/2] Using Cargo, I created a template with cargo_declare but the page shows [00:43:06] [2/2] This template defines the table "Drops". This table has not been created yet. [00:56:55] Math extension is still broken [01:17:45] If can't i make the local election on mockupedia because i let blocked users, should i make local election on meta wiki for mockupedia? [01:20:55] What do you mean let blocked users? [01:22:05] [1/6] > I do feel like "spyon supporter" is an invalid reason to ban someone if they haven't done something else that's bannable (like vandalizing) [01:22:05] [2/6] > It's like banning someone for a political opinion [01:22:06] [3/6] Which is absolutely something you'd do since you are that sour of a human being [01:22:06] [4/6] > Also [01:22:06] [5/6] > "We block based of wiki damage" [01:22:07] [6/6] > This is how basically everything is run [01:22:14] This happens on mockupedia [01:22:33] So should i need make local election on meta wiki? [01:22:45] Top is you bottom is admins? [01:23:17] Any election would have to be held on that wiki [01:23:34] [1/2] Another admin blocked users for user opinion [01:23:35] [2/2] But i'm disagree that so i unblock him [01:23:40] Then based on outcome you could ask stewards to enforce the outcome [01:23:58] What about blocked users who don't get right to vote? [01:23:58] Beyond that nothing should be done on metawiki [01:24:11] Thats not something that stewards typically intervene in [01:24:19] Oh [01:24:30] So you’re also an admin? [01:24:51] Yeah [01:25:11] And that wiki bureaucrat is inactive [01:25:17] And you are running for bureaucrat [01:25:22] He will do nothing [01:25:34] I don't have that role yet [01:25:37] Hm [01:25:41] Zppix? [01:25:49] I stated what needed to happen [01:25:52] But i'll make that for my bureaucrat [01:26:41] Steward very rarely will intervene in the local wiki administration unless there is a vote of some kind on that wiki. [01:27:07] Yeah [01:27:12] Rare as in beyond for violation of Miraheze policies, I have never seen it in the 6 years ive been on Miraheze [01:27:39] I hate wiki politics [01:27:47] Is blocked user on local wiki can report to miraheze for falsely blocked by local admin? [01:27:52] No [01:28:03] they won’t intervene in local wiki administration [01:28:11] Hm [01:29:20] I see the reasoning, but if an admin blocked a valid contributor and the edit summary clearly showed beyond reasonable doubt it was for a personal petty and dumb reason Stewards wouldn’t do anything? [01:29:39] Unless it violates any global policy, no [01:31:07] Kk [01:32:27] Is that Fjattar action viloates any global policy? [01:32:58] And it's user pov [01:34:32] From what Zppix said don’t sound like there’s anything to do [01:36:17] <:xsob:912928935577276526> [01:40:35] No [03:09:33] In what way? [06:25:26] what is the absolute worst skin [06:27:40] How create extensions for wiki? [06:30:05] create??? [06:30:09] like making your own?? [06:30:16] yes [06:31:12] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Developing_extensions [06:31:37] then you gotta request it on the phabricator or something [06:42:56] Minerva [07:15:31] Hello, i'm getting a bit antsy about an import request since we can't resume work on the wiki until then. I don't want to be impatient, i recognize that this is volunteer-run and there have been more pressing issues with files lately, but even a vague ETA for the queue would help a lot [07:16:38] I also tested importing a smaller export dump and it 504'd, i think i remember reading something that said to contact about that [07:16:45] xml or file dump import? [07:17:26] XML [07:18:00] but, like, uploaded as a file, right [07:18:38] I see 16 requests in the queue on Meta ... [08:14:48] Sorry for any confusion—i successfully requested the full dump through Special:RequestImportDump and have just been waiting for it to be handled. The test with the smaller export was locally on Special:Import, so it's not directly relevant to that [09:37:47] it's working fine for me - if math elements are not rendering properly for you since the Swift outage, you'll need to fully purge pages that are using math [14:44:45] [1/2] > It's like banning someone for a political opinion [14:44:45] [2/2] can i just say how stupid this sounds. sometimes people hind behind "its a political opinion" to express bigotry, racism, etc etc [14:45:54] oh my god if this is the same fjattar i'm thinking of, he's infamous in the UT au community, specifically inverted fate. he's super petty and has been trying to hurt the AU's production and reputation in any means possible, via false copyright claims and everything [14:45:55] What about user opinion? [14:46:26] depends? as long as it's not promoting hate i think it should be fine [14:47:38] https://youtu.be/CRt_ylJPphQ btw this is the fjattar's (falsely blocker) behaviours [14:47:39] dude also is just a content thief and shit too [14:47:50] OH MY GOD IT IS THE SAME FJATTAR [14:47:57] Yeah [14:48:06] And fjattar also join mockupedia wiki [14:48:11] Do u want to see it? [14:48:14] DORKED (inverted fate creator) HAD TO DEAL WITH HIM FOR YEAAARRRRS [14:48:23] sure sent it along [14:48:31] I mean mockupedia discord [14:48:34] ahh [14:50:33] Wow [14:50:38] The mockupedia website is mockupedia.miraheze.org btw [14:50:38] Internet is a small place [14:51:06] it fucking is [14:55:59] man [15:12:44] Only thing I can think of is get more people from the community to host an election [15:13:01] Not fully sure what our stance is on people who join a wiki just to vote though [15:15:16] they aren't counted normally [15:16:00] but the fact that sysop actively suppresses community is fucked up [15:16:36] of there's no local policies, global miraheze policies are applied [15:20:31] but I don't remember if sich cases are meant to be taken care of [15:26:27] From what Zpp said don’t seem like it [15:26:33] Fuck I hate wiki politics [16:16:44] unless anything that is done violates any of the global policy, the local wiki community would have to vote for what they want then if they want they can then have a steward take action on that otherwise Stewards will not intervene [16:40:58] how community will be able to hold a vote if admin will supress any vote? [16:41:45] True [16:43:33] On the other hand you don’t really want to set a precedent that people with global rights can just come in and interfere with local wiki administration anytime they’d like either [16:43:45] I understand [16:44:00] Both valid issues [16:44:11] We aren’t Fandom after all [16:44:47] all the community is left to do is to fork to another hosting them [16:45:00] because they can't create the same wiki on Miraheze [16:45:02] This is why relying on one person to hold the highest most rights to a wiki is a bad idea [16:45:10] while being free from bad admin [16:45:38] Lots of small wikis May not have a choice [16:46:22] Ie my wiki Im the only active bureaucrat cause I’m the one person somewhat commited who also has knowledge of MediaWiki and such [16:47:02] This is why I’ve never really liked the concept of wikis that are political in nature [16:47:23] Those words should honestly never be in the same sentence [19:59:46] i'm going to make farrightipedia and it will just be pictures of politicians in groups with arrows pointing to the one on the right [20:36:02] <.wintertime.> bruh [20:36:11] <.wintertime.> editing skin is such a pain [20:38:23] <.wintertime.> Some things work some dont for whatever reason ,some things look like one thing when you're logged in and other when logged out. [20:39:02] Hey everyone, I'm struggling to create my first template- what are the 'fields' for? Why can't I just type in what I want to appear? Sorry, newbie here! [20:39:45] I mean, it's a template [20:39:59] imagine you have some kind of list [20:40:38] it has stuff like name, age, gender [20:40:45] and fields next to them [20:40:52] where you gonna write the stuff [20:41:32] [1/2] Oh. I read that a template can just be a block of text you can insert at any time- can I not do one like that? [20:41:32] [2/2] Thanks though! I do understand what fields are now! [20:41:42] it can [20:41:54] you just do that thing [20:43:40] [1/5] you want to make "This page is a stub" template [20:43:41] [2/5] * create a page called `Template:Stub` [20:43:41] [3/5] * write "This page is a stub" here (can be made fancy with HTML code etc) [20:43:41] [4/5] * save the page [20:43:41] [5/5] now you can write `{{stub}}` on any normal article page and that template will appear [20:43:41] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:stub [20:44:28] the fields/parameters are for more complex templates like infoboxes [20:45:05] So, I shouldn't be creating it from the 'create a template' page? Okay, thank you so so much!! [20:45:20] I don't know such page [20:45:36] but you should make it on a page w/ `Template:` prefix [20:45:52] [[mw:Help:Templates]] [20:45:52] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates [20:45:52]

[21:16:16] <.wintertime.> are there perhaps Vector 2022 skin discord? [22:25:29] I'm having issues importing files [22:25:32] but idk if that's just me [22:34:42] psst. does anyone know how to change this image on empty discussion pages. idk if it shows up on other themes but ik its there for timeless