[00:08:23] <.wintertime.> 503? [00:09:37] same here [00:09:37] Yah servers ded [00:10:11] Oh im back [00:12:37] Guys I think its broken [00:13:01] Lemme look on grafana [00:17:04] <.wintertime.> Mine is back [00:36:35] i had a "pause" in an edit loading but it seems fine now [00:57:35] maybe there's better way, but a hack-y way would be hiding the logo and just setting a background on the right of `ext-discussiontools-emptystate` [00:58:05] i see i see... [00:59:53] it shows up on vector 2010 i just checked [01:03:15] i put this background on my wiki but it cuts off at the top [01:03:29] what do i do now! [01:05:37] #mw-head-base is the css for the top space [01:05:45] As far as I'm aware [01:08:45] when i tried to remove that [01:08:48] it removed the buttons [01:09:08] so i had to switch skins to edit it back to normal [03:05:14] Does Miraheze automatically prune images/media not linked to any articles or does it have to be cleaned up manually? [04:30:57] manually. you can get a list with special:UnusedFiles [04:32:07] if you have files that are only url linked and not embedded they will also be in that category [10:26:34] how do i make someone an administrator for a wiki [10:28:07] go to their user page, in sidebar/toolbar you'll "Change user rights" or something like that [10:28:22] thx [10:35:24] should i click view user groups? [10:42:01] are you sure you are a bureaucrat on this wiki? [10:42:18] it's a highest admin role which can appoint admins [10:44:53] should be like this [10:46:26] i created a wiki [10:46:37] i want to make someone an admin [10:46:45] ah [10:47:34] [1/3] requested, you mean? [10:47:34] [2/3] seems like you got a bug when bureau rights didn't land on you [10:47:35] [3/3] you need to leave a request on [[SN]] [10:47:35] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SN [10:47:35]

[10:47:40] thx [10:57:12] so i create this page to talk to him? [11:02:50] what [11:04:22] why? [11:27:37] Random question related to mediawikis as a whole, do error 503s happen sometimes because there's too much traffic on said wiki? [11:33:28] that's pretty what we had couple of months ago w/ DDOS [11:33:59] site kept falling into 503/504 [11:34:35] or was it different error <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [11:36:20] 503s used to be alot worse 3ish years ago [11:36:33] Miraheze has come a loong way [11:36:40] You learn something new every day [11:37:12] [1/2] true [11:37:13] [2/2] infra improved since [11:37:21] A wiki I use kept getting 503s semi frequently, and I was just beginning to appreciate how little 503s there are in Miraheze so I don't have to worry about my data being lost before its saved [11:38:07] Well not just Infra we learned alot more about what we are doing, you gotta remember Miraheze does things that no one has successfully attempted to do in such a scale as we do before [12:32:00] 503 in actual general is probably the most broad HTML serverside errorcode (and like all of these are not specific to MW) https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Status#server_error_responses [14:28:28] Hm fair enough [15:26:57] How do you deal with hundreds of 'discovered - currently not indexed'? [15:31:53] [1/2] Nothing you can do I don't think, unfortunately. Google tends to do what it wants. [15:31:53] [2/2] You can try to resubmit the sitemap. [16:51:50] [1/2] Hey y'all, I'm once again ✨ struggling✨ with templates. I made a template for a 'series' page (Like, a page about a series of the fanfiction my wiki is about), but I find that when I insert the template, I cannot then write on it/edit it on the page I called it into. [16:51:50] [2/2] I know this is probably how templates are meant to work and I've just seriously misunderstood this, but even so, is there a way I can make it so a template/parts of a template can have stuff typed in? Like, insert a textbox in the middle of a template, or just make it so I can edit a template when it's been called? [16:53:51] are you using visual editor by chance? [16:54:12] most templates take inputs [16:54:15] so like [16:54:38] `{{Quote|This is the quoted text|John Doe|source link}}` [16:54:38] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Quote [16:55:57] I'm creating a new page, not editing- I just can't type on it when I've inserted it, which I didn't expect [16:56:05] How do I make it so it lets me input text? [17:01:32] are you using parameters? https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1178655330905886760/1178716137438056470 [17:06:11] I haven't, but I can put those in now, thank you so much! I really appreciate your help (: [17:07:52] oh lol [17:07:52] yeah [17:10:10] [1/4] tbc when I'm writing the template itself, would this: [17:10:10] [2/4] '''Order in series''' = {{{Order in series}}} [17:10:10] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bOrder_in_series [17:10:10] [3/4] End up looking like: [17:10:11] [4/4] Order in series: (Insert) [17:12:09] ahhh nope it didn't work. Did I do it wrong? [17:15:40] Whatever you give as input when using the template, just replaces the `{{{Order in series}}}` part entirely. (though I am not entirely sure if spaces are allowed or not in parameter names, so if it still don't work, try and jsut call it `{{{Order}}}` or something else with no spaces or other special characters [17:15:40] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bOrder_in_series [17:17:37] what are you trying to do? [17:19:05] [1/2] on the content page, every parameter should be in this kind of format [17:19:05] [2/2] `| Order in series = (Insert)` [17:19:39] might just be missing the | = [17:21:18] So, I don't need the {{{ }}}? Okay, I'll try that. [17:21:18] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b_ [17:21:35] you need them in the template [17:21:36] I'm trying to make it so I can type in information when I insert a template [17:21:36] it might be a good idea to look at other examples [17:21:50] what does your template page look like rn? [17:21:51] Yes, good idea! I will look for some on other people's wikis [17:22:06] hang on, I'll take a screenshot [17:23:58] what are you doing .... [17:24:24] I've never made a template before! [17:24:52] and the edit bits? those are create automatically on articles [17:24:58] you aren't making a template [17:25:03] you try to make an article? [17:25:50] No, I already made the template page and it added those in automatically, I didn't type them. But it dowsn't let me edit the template when I call it, which is probably normal but I can't figure out how to make it so I can type stuff in [17:25:52] wait huh [17:26:18] Nope- a couple days ago, someone told me to make it by creating a page and giving it the prefic 'template:(name)' [17:26:24] It does let me call it! [17:26:55] [1/2] well you said you want to make a template [17:26:55] [2/2] and I said how to make a template [17:26:57] yeah, definitely look at some other templates because im not really sure what you're trying to do still [17:27:05] now I'm not sure what are you trying to achieve [17:28:59] [1/4] I want to make something where I call the template, and then can just type in the relevant information. [17:29:00] [2/4] This is a page I made without a template: [17:29:00] [3/4] https://decapedia.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Deca_(Series_Two) [17:29:00] [4/4] But I need to make a few pages like that, with the same structure and some of the same information, but with the ability to slightly change things (e.g. 'order in series: Two' to 'Three') [17:31:36] oh, you don't really need a template for that then [17:31:50] you can just copy and paste the source and then change whatever you need to [17:32:03] at least imo [17:33:10] [1/2] It's just because I want to do a similar thing for chapters, of which there are so, so many, so I was hoping that templates were a way to make it easier. [17:33:10] [2/2] I can copy and paste every time ig, was just hoping to make it easier. [17:33:41] What exactly are templates for if not stuff like this? [17:33:42] hm [17:33:59] infoboxes, notices, navigation, etc. [17:34:20] Oh. [17:34:57] small icons, sometime tables [17:34:57] templates can be for formatting too, or stuff you need to copypaste a lot [17:35:13] i think you actually got close to what you wanted to do though [17:35:28] even if its uh, unconventional lol [17:36:18] i dont understand what this is about though [17:38:06] with the template you made, this is how you would use it; [17:39:05] [1/8] ``` [17:39:05] [2/8] {{Series [17:39:06] [3/8] |About = The second series of [[Barnable]]'s [[ArchiveOfOurOwn|AO3]] [[Doctor Who]] fanfiction, '[[The Deca (Series)|The Deca]]'. ([[The Deca (Series One)|]]) [17:39:06] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Barnable https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/ArchiveOfOurOwn https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Doctor_Who https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Deca_(Series) https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Deca_(Series_One) https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Deca_(Series_Three) [17:39:06] [4/8] |Order in series = Second [17:39:06] [5/8] |Rating = Teens and up [17:39:07] [6/8] ... [17:39:07] [7/8] ``` [17:39:07] [8/8] etc. [17:39:48] also, what is that inital heading for on the page [17:40:09] if it's just the page name that feels a bit redundant [17:42:16] @mx.lilasekhmet [17:43:34] (also don't actually add those elipses, you'd put more inputs there instead) [17:43:35] [1/2] Ah, okay, thank you so much! [17:43:35] [2/2] I attemtped to make the template a while ago, the edit/hide thing was put in automatically, not by me. I can get rid of the pagename thing too [17:43:53] ah alright [17:43:56] and no worries [17:45:24] Is there a way to edit the inputs, like, when they've been called? So I could, say, call the template and then change the order in the series from second to third? [17:51:01] yeah, it would just be `|Order in series = Third` instead of `|Order in series = Second` [17:51:30] But I can't make it so I can just input something different each time I call the template? [17:51:36] Oh well, still pretty cool! [17:52:36] that's what the parameters are for, you don't actually fill in the template with the data on the template page [17:53:09] Okay, so, how do I put in a parameter? Is that what the '(word) = ' thing is? [17:53:45] you already had them here [17:54:08] Okay, so I just need to put the '{{{' thing back in? On it! [17:54:13] then this is what you put on the page you want to use the template on [17:59:45] Okay, I tried that but it gives me an error- "Template loop detected: template:series" [18:00:28] you don't put that on the Template: page [18:03:03] wait sorry, don't put what on the page? I just clicked insert template [18:04:30] okay I removed the word 'series' and the error is gone [18:04:38] but, I still can't edit the parameter thingies [18:06:42] [1/3] the [18:06:42] [2/3] `{{ [18:06:42] [3/3] |parameter =` format goes on pages you are putting the template on, not the template itself [18:07:08] I don't understand- how do I insert that if I can't edit the template after it's inserted? [18:12:30] [1/6] let's say you have Template:Text, and the only content on that page is `{{{Words}}}` [18:12:30] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bWords [18:12:30] [2/6] {{{Words}}} is the parameter [18:12:30] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bWords [18:12:31] [3/6] then on a page you want to insert the template on, you put [18:12:31] [4/6] `{{Text [18:12:31] [5/6] |Words=manywords [18:12:31] [6/6] }}`, and the outcome will be "manywords" [18:12:51] that's the basics of how parameters work, if there's stuff you need to change, put it in a parameter [18:13:03] then you can change the content on the page you're inserting the template on [18:14:37] Okay, that makes sense, though it does kind of feel like it's just typing out the whole page. What do I do if I have more than one parameter? [18:15:40] Ooh wait it's letting me add undocumented parameters! [18:17:48] [1/6] same story but more parameters haha, remember they should only be the stuff that changes should be a parameter, if the template is `{{{Words}}} and {{{Words2}}}` then "and" will always the same [18:17:48] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bWords [18:17:48] [2/6] and inserting it on the page would look like [18:17:48] [3/6] `{{Text [18:17:48] [4/6] |Words=manywords [18:17:49] [5/6] |Words2=manywords [18:17:49] [6/6] }}` [18:18:51] Are you by chance using the visual editor? [18:19:13] Chime's explanations will make much more sense if you switch to source editor if that's the case [18:19:30] never use visual mode <:pepperman:1129891072076697622> r [18:20:42] It's okay for casual editors but I'd recommend to get used to source editing for any new admin [18:20:46] ok [18:22:27] uhh hi im working on the request wiki form and i have a question [18:23:16] For emailing users on a wiki, how do I check if I ever got a response from them? I'm trying to make sure nothing got blackholed or something [18:23:22] so the wiki i wanna request would be about an idol group but im not sure which of these things it would fit under [18:26:04] Currently, moderation emails are sent to `noreply@miraheze.org` [18:26:08] Which is the default [18:26:28] But I'm trying to make sure that emails sent to users, after I respond to their response, are being sent back to me [18:29:45] Can someone ping me if they have a response? I don't look at this chat much [19:37:53] tfw captchas still arent working [19:38:41] on meta or phavricator? [19:38:46] meta [19:39:06] <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [19:39:30] the agonies [19:40:43] i wonder if you could remove red outline with css [19:41:29] yes, it's `border: none` [19:43:41] when it appears tho, what are you doing? [19:43:53] trying to post on stewards noticeboard [19:44:03] it just doesnt show any associated image [19:56:12] Yep it worked [21:38:09] Is it normal to have to do a captcha every time you try to make a new article? [21:39:53] it depends on settings [21:41:53] So I can change it? [21:41:59] How do I do that [22:03:35] Can I turn this off for someone in my wiki? [22:57:53] Looking for stewards, for my wiki anyone interested [22:58:22] Don't have to be vary active [23:04:56]