[02:22:37] Soo, I've done a few things to make it easier to edit/decorate the wiki, but not only does the skin I chose not load at all, but I can't figure out where to change the logo/favicon [02:22:48] I'm going where the instruction manual says to, but I just see this [02:23:13] Oh, and the infoboxes are broken, I think [02:26:48] its in additional settings [02:38:41] how would you make it so that there is a space between the two boxes? [03:13:39] Things are starting to go well decor-wise [03:53:31] CSS `margin` property [04:34:14] I take it back [04:34:27] Why are the links gREEN THEYRE SUPPOSED TO BE TEAL 😭 [04:38:51] They're supposed to be a bright teal, not a dark teal, I know it's probably automatic but I feel like the green is actually harder to see than the teal [04:39:25] Ignore the warning btw, I reloaded and it showed that [04:49:08] Also, are infoboxes supposed to look like this? [05:26:50] Yea, you have nothing in the infobox [05:27:01] Besides the title [05:27:39] Also if you use a desktop only theme, the infobox wouldn't render with full width [05:44:47] Oh [05:45:25] I created the full infobox, but it isn't showing up. Looks like I gotta find a skin with mobile compatibility [06:21:39] Seems like you typing something wrong [06:22:16] The infobox is there but nothing besides the title means you didn't have any proper variables and values [06:23:24] Hmm [06:23:55] I'll redo the Infobox tomorrow, rn I'm too tired because I was trying to fix this error with my logo + the colors [08:00:38] What are the policies if I want to fundraise in my local community? Some expenses are necessary, like when we collaborate or meet etc. I read [[Content Policy]] #1. But I am not clear whether such fundraising is permissible or not. [08:00:38] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Content_Policy [08:00:39] [08:04:14] [1/2] in Cosmos you should use wordmark instea of logo, I believe [08:04:15] [2/2] also Cosmos skin is mobile adaptive, it seems like you switched to desktop view in browser itself [08:48:05] would there be any issues if i decided to manually upload about 700~ images myself? just wondering if i can take some stress off the SRE team, or if that would actually cause issues [09:01:29] You better upload images yourself than waiting someone to import images [09:02:06] [1/2] You can use this to automate batch uploads: [09:02:06] [2/2] https://github.com/Aspallar/Wiki-Up [09:03:53] Also upload each images automatically put less load than import whole image batch [09:49:12] i see i see [09:49:26] so its actually better if i do it this way? [10:54:14] [1/4] Hey, developers. [10:54:14] [2/4] I have a question about mirahaze.org/ [10:54:14] [3/4] when I Enter this address to address bar in browser, I will be redirected to a strange site named "DDOS GUARD" and seems like a virus. [10:54:15] [4/4] But when I go to mirahaze.org with search engine, everything will be fine. [10:56:55] Please DM a screenshot [10:57:06] okay [11:00:07] here is. [11:01:40] isn't it a virus? [11:04:01] Does it take a few days for a wiki to show up in search results after the html tag gets verified by Google? [11:04:50] What? [11:05:17] idk [11:05:40] Sorry, my question was completely unrelated to you [11:05:58] Could be years mate. There is no method to google. [11:06:16] No, I'm sorry for that because I didn't notice that... [11:06:39] Check your spelling [11:06:46] I use Duckduckgo 🤣 [11:07:06] [1/2] Oof 😭 [11:07:07] [2/2] Guess I'll start promoting it then [11:07:18] At least it works on edge [11:07:39] English isn'y my mother language... [11:07:54] it's Miraheze not Miraheze [11:08:06] oh. [11:08:25] A fake site cheating on me [11:08:32] Yep [11:09:17] okay this problem fixed, I will set a Redirect to correct website to prevent I miss again. [11:10:15] It's one of them shitty domain portfolio companies [11:11:07] It's a fairly common scam [11:11:33] But it doesn't look to be attempting anything other than ads at the moment [11:12:50] That's a virus! [11:13:29] It's not a virus [11:13:32] My phone was infected by that shit, so I realize that. [11:13:57] Sites like that are normally phishing scams [11:14:13] It doesn't look to be doing anything though [11:14:21] Redirector works normally! [11:14:35] But I do suggest installing a reputable ad blocker and some malware detection [11:14:44] If you click on that, it will infect your device [11:14:55] No it won't [11:15:07] I have been installed ADGuard on my browser [11:16:51] Okay, go make sure your pc is up to date and your malware scanner works but I doubt that site is the cause [11:17:06] You might be able to find an anti malware tool that does typo detection [11:18:59] Something like https://www.mcafee.com/learn/web-protection/ [12:17:07] I'm assume you are in China then it was DNS redirect or some sort [12:18:17] Oh sorry, not China but again it was some DNS poisoning [12:19:17] Make sure you use a reputable DNS like Cloudflare one [12:19:54] https://developers.cloudflare.com/1.1.1.1/encryption/dns-over-https/encrypted-dns-browsers/ [12:53:46] @max20091 it's called a typo [12:53:48] As I said [12:53:52] No poisoning [12:54:03] You don't type Miraheze.org, you don't get us [12:54:09] oh [12:54:38] I'm blind [12:55:12] @max20091 yes you are [13:31:20] What is this? [13:31:25] What's the Captcha? [13:32:49] im trying to use this tool, but i keep getting WikiUpload.ApiError, not sure what im doing wrong [13:34:01] is it red or yellow? [13:34:07] it is yellow [13:34:16] Read the error below that [13:34:24] usually duplicate name or something [13:34:28] as i said, WikiUpload.ApiError [13:34:32] nothing else [13:35:09] A broken captcha [13:35:25] Change your link from external to internal [13:35:38] Oh alrighty! [13:35:40] You can link wikis with [[mh:subdomain]] [13:35:40] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/subdomain [13:35:41] [13:36:26] [1/2] Oh, no idea then. [13:36:27] [2/2] Can you try upload the same file using web browser? Usually there's a warning but seems like the software won't report that [13:36:43] good thought haha, let me try. i was having some issues with file format (webp shenanigans..) so ill see what it says [13:37:12] ...Ah, okay. yeah it is webp shenanigans [13:37:53] the files were originally uploaded in .png, downloaded from FANDOM as masked webp (my beloathed), theyve now been converted to png but apparently the MIME still reports webp???? [13:38:01] Tysm!! [13:38:34] [1/2] Nah, that's not PNGs, those are WEBPs now. [13:38:34] [2/2] MediaWiki identify files via actual file bytes [13:38:39] Ah ok! [13:38:50] right, but i did just run them through a converter [13:38:58] but theyre still reporting the same, so ive no clue what the issue is [13:39:29] Well, you need to open the file with some sort of file editor to see what actual file format it is [13:39:46] fair enough, one sec [13:40:10] they are opening as PNG - i opened them in a program that has no webp support and it had no problems [13:40:21] so they are indeed PNG, i guess the MIME is just reporting incorrectly [13:40:33] ill see if i can try stripping the MIME that might do something [13:40:56] ..im thinking of EXIF. haha dont mind me [13:41:02] Don't strip mime, you will break the file [13:41:19] yeah sorry, my brains all frazzled. im not sure how this program can detect it as PNG but mediawiki cant :s [13:41:39] No idea, maybe you select file again? [13:42:02] still the same. what does ignore warnings do? idk if itd let it through or just ignore [13:42:14] change .png to .webp [13:42:18] But wait [13:42:28] Why don't you grab the original file? [13:42:41] Or did Fandom permanently converted them to webp? [13:42:48] the original files? oh, i dont own them, i was brought onto this wiki late. yeah, fandom's perma-saved them as webp [13:42:57] but it masks the filetypes so they appear as .png etc on the site itself [13:43:15] you can see here if you try to save it, itll save as webp [13:44:05] Something has screwed up the file [13:44:34] i will admit that when i first saved them i manually renamed the file extension since i thought it would work >__>;; it didnt, but then ive ran them through a converter but it seems that didnt change the MIME type [13:44:43] but they still open in that webp-unsupported program so i am baffled [13:44:59] It's mime type says it's webp [13:45:19] So it should be uploaded as webp or have its mime type fixed [13:45:33] yeah, we cant upload as webp because its like 700+ images we have to fix every wiki page for [13:45:35] Fandom does indeed do something evil [13:45:45] do you guys happen to know a way to fix a files MIME type? [13:45:48] Only logged in users can grab original files [13:45:53] wat, im logged in [13:46:12] oh here, heres a screenshot of what it does [13:46:24] i hate masked webp HAHAHA its such a pain [13:46:48] Run it through a photo editor and resave [13:47:38] You don't, because Fandom attempts to block people from download actual files [13:47:48] let me try it in photoshop, if any editors got MIME handling its got to be that one [13:47:57] this fake button [13:48:11] on the right one is reduced with webp [13:48:37] This original file is the real stuff [13:48:39] ... [13:48:47] ah shit/s [13:48:57] fandom drives me so insane LMFAO [13:49:13] ill try the re-saving trick if not ill have to redownload 700 images 😭 but thank you guys so much for the help [13:50:04] Resaving it will work [13:50:08] Because it's a new file [13:51:18] i really appreciate actually having people to talk to for miraheze, getting support for FANDOM was always a pain [13:52:00] They turns evil when you leave their platform sadly [13:52:07] <:moonch:794697217826095165> [13:53:14] literally though 😭 people are still editing the FANDOM wiki and we have like, no way outside of the community's official discord to inform people to STOP EDITING!!! [13:54:54] i saw that one big wiki got taken over by FANDOM staff and when challenged about it, the rep in charge was like "nobody made you leave FANDOM" like erm.. [13:55:01] no i think all of yalls decisions did [13:55:29] i absolutely appreciate the fact wikis kind of take a stupid amount of bandwidth but monetizing unpaid wiki work is an active choice they made [14:02:23] also ty resaving worked! i will.. casually re-save all these files and then ship them off LOL [14:04:23] I believe you're talking about the McDonald's FANDOM wiki, back when the Grimace Shake was all the rave. Basically, Fandom staff went to Grimace's wiki page and undid all the history/work on the page and turned it into one huge advertisement [14:04:41] And when confronted about it, they didn't give a shit [14:05:06] i dont even remember which one it was but if it is indeed the mcdonalds page thats kind of fucking hilarious. but also terrible [14:05:14] Yea... [14:05:33] it sucks because back when FANDOM was wikia it was pretty legit. just another case of corporation soullessness >__> [14:05:37] When I watched that one "stop using FANDOM" video I heard about it and was disgusted [14:06:11] I also had beef with fandom before I even started USING fandom [14:06:15] Due to the Backrooms [14:06:34] Ya see, I love the Backrooms, and I particularly liked the Wikidot version [14:06:40] Because it was interesting [14:07:06] And there were no "ahhh partygoers scary!!!!" Bullshit [14:07:14] i actually wasnt too fussed about moving to miraheze at first, but the wiki im working on is owned by the lead dev of the game and he wanted us to move, so i made it my mission to spearhead the migration (bc im the oldest wiki staff member and also older than the devs and im good at reading instructions/lh) [14:07:21] and now im very passionate about it HAHA [14:07:31] Yea [14:07:34] im excited to get to CSS-ify our miraheze [14:07:48] What does that mean?/gen [14:08:37] oh, getting to customize the CSS! [14:08:48] FANDOM is quite limited in what you can change, but mediawiki itself lets you do a fair bit [14:08:57] Ooh [14:09:22] I really hope you can change up the "we could find your page" message/error [14:09:45] Cuz I have a reference from the series the wiki is for that could be literally perfect for that [14:10:15] i think you can by extension? idk if miraheze has it though [14:10:38] Ah, ok! I'll check it out once I have the wiki settled though [14:10:52] [1/2] this is for 404 pages [14:10:52] [2/2] and this seems to be for nonexistant articles but im not certain [14:11:21] I'm prioritizing skin/decor rn, mostly because I'm code illiterate and I need visual editor [14:11:59] 8th grade robotics did literally nothing to help my understanding of coding 😭 [14:55:59] Still no suggestion what caused WantedPages to missing? [14:56:02] Pardon [16:18:49] there was [16:19:32] I'm having a problem w/ another page now tho, `Special:UncategorizedTemplates` [16:20:00] despite the fact that they're categorized since yesterday, they still hang on the page [16:31:36] Am I doing anything wrong? I'm remaking the Infobox and I want to make sure it's right [16:46:57] Hi, can anyone tell me the best and safest way of mass deleting pages? There's loads of pages and template files I no longer need and my site just needs a major overhaul to tidy things up. I am probably looking to delete about half of the 6.8k pages. Thanks [16:48:30] [[mw:Extension:Nuke]] [16:48:30] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Nuke [16:48:30] [16:49:07] although if pages in question are imported then it won't recognise them [16:49:23] there's also NukeDLP, which depends on DLP3 extension [16:49:48] I think it might have the same problem [16:50:12] and last but not least are pywikibot and AutoWikiBrowser program [16:50:30] looks ok [16:51:52] is there a way to make the text spaced out like this instead of being put in the center of a box? 🤔 [17:02:36] Many template pages are imported from Wikipedia when testing different templates, most of which I never used in the end. There aren't any recent pages, and all pages I want to delete were created by myself. It looks like Nuke is geared more towards vandalism. I literally no nothing about DPL. [17:07:25] @borderman.ww1 have you listed your target pages? [17:09:08] Not yet, but many of the pages I want deleting are in categories so I have rough idea. The templates are messy and will take time to go through [17:10:19] there are examples of DLP queries [17:11:17] in AWB you can pick category, but the deletion process in semi-manual [17:11:42] `text-align`? [17:12:47] I see... Once listing is done, you can work out the rest with user scripts [17:14:35] for example: [[w:User:Animum/massdelete.js]] [17:14:35] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Animum/massdelete.js [17:14:36] [17:16:13] not quire what i'm looking for, i tried using non breakable space but it doesn't work well with mobile [17:17:04] Listing how? Is this done on the website? That code is way beyond my understanding. I was hoping for selecting tickboxes and clicking delete! [17:19:20] even fandom dev scripts aren't that easy man [17:19:44] I'm not quite sure what you are trying to achieve [17:28:42] it's like text align but you can freely add how many spaces you want [17:29:44] [1/6] the user script can be used by anyone. just add this to common.js to do with "Special:Massdelete": [17:29:44] [2/6] ```mw.loader.load('//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Animum/massdelete.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');``` [17:29:45] [3/6] this user script is a bit special: breaks each line to specify the target page [17:29:45] [4/6] (at least, I have never heard of way to operate with checkboxes other than Nuke....) [17:29:45] [5/6] Listing - in Special:Export, "Add pages from category" can be used to list pages belonging to a category [17:29:46] [6/6] Paste the list retrieved here into the script execution screen for batch deletion [17:32:59] Ok, thanks. I will look into it and do a test run 👍🏻 [17:55:19] Am I supposed to put anything into the values? [17:57:31] when you use infobox on normal page, you provide values, yes [18:05:52] what is the best way to start overwriting the wikis css? id like to write a custom theme that the wiki uses unless forced otherwise by the user [18:34:43] skin specific css [18:35:16] for legacy Vector it's Vector.css, for Timeless - Timeless.css, etc [18:35:47] how the process goes - poke around web page w/ element inspector and see what works for you [18:37:31] okay awesome, thank you :} [20:44:14] [1/2] open inspect element and start messing around with the website. copy the changes you like to your personal .css file. After you bug test it you copy that code to the wiki .css [20:44:14] [2/2] Profot [21:06:02] [1/2] Is anyone else having trouble making backups of their wikis? I.e. is this issue just with my wiki or Miraheze-wide? [21:06:03] [2/2] https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T11528 [21:07:11] You are not the only one [21:07:49] I wonder why moderation logs are open for normal users [21:07:59] Why not [21:09:20] Dunno lol [21:09:28] Just doesn't feel normal ig [21:14:58] transparency [22:01:04] not sure whats up, but I keep running into this error whenever I attempt logging in [22:02:02] me too- I get it whenever I click a new page [22:03:29] I think MW is just throwing a bit of a hissy fit rn ngl [22:03:46] ya seems like it x_x [22:04:23] @paladox [22:04:52] Someone just did some deploying [22:15:36] is there a list of pages with broken file links [22:16:59] Yes [22:17:08] whats the special page link [22:17:09] Special:BrokenFiles [22:17:11] i cant find it [22:17:12] thx [22:17:28] You can also see a list of special pages on Special:SpecialPages [22:17:31] its not there [22:17:38] it said no such special page [22:17:51] [[Special:BrokenFiles]] [22:17:51] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:BrokenFiles [22:17:52] [22:18:04] [[Special:SpecialPages]] [22:18:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:SpecialPages [22:18:05] [22:18:21] It's wanted [22:18:24] Of course [22:18:29] Special:WantedFiles [22:20:08] is it category: pages with broken file links [22:20:10] but that category is empty [22:21:23] No it's what I said it is one line above [22:21:58] oh ok [22:22:03] fixed