[00:07:18] maybe it's just me, but if you feel you need to reapply if option c passes (which it obviously will), i don't understand why you would exercise the role now since you resigned in june and haven't really been doing steward stuff until just now [00:14:08] I've been exercising Steward rights since June, albeit not in the frequency I used to. Just a few weeks ago, pre-RfC, I handled a CP violation request email [00:15:54] i don’t personally see a problem given the lack of management at the moment but that’s me [00:16:32] mk. i'll stop. it just seems the whole demeanor of the server has changed since the RfC [00:20:40] [1/2] I get your point, but they were asked to retain rights to assist in a limited capacity in the original plan of a shutdown for orderly off-platforming. [00:20:41] [2/2] Now that it's no longer the case, assisting in a limited capacity for the new plan to keep the backlog from growing until elections can be held seems reasonable... [00:43:35] not to be a conspiracy theorist, where was this a month ago? [00:45:17] I believe Zppix made a brief statement that Agent was remaining to assist with transition a couple of months ago in this server; the original message has been buried under several month's worth of subsequent messages [00:52:46] maybe i missed it, but i haven't seen many actions by Agent in that regard until just now. i don't see how such an agreement changes the fact there were few, if any, steward actions for months and not, suddenly, there are. [00:54:05] for clarity, i am not casting aspersions on Agent's intentions. i'm just not understanding the whole "i've resigned" but now i'm going to use the role process. [00:56:45] my question was more about why wasn't Agent doing steward stuff before the RfC if they still had steward authority. you know, as well as anyone, about the steward backlog. [01:01:25] I expected the transition to be rather swift and didn't expect to remain long in the role. Initially, as NotAracham said, I remained to help with the wind down and to help generate image dumps. Of course, now I see that there were a lot of hurdles in the transition process and now that I've been on a Board, I see the many challenges that one faces. [01:01:27] I will admit I wasn't the most active. After July, I averaged a few log actions per month like locking spam accounts or deleting CP violating wikis. [01:04:35] i appreciate this which seems more forthwright. [01:28:35] hm [02:38:03] Sorry,Can someone answer my question? [02:53:00] how do i change the logo/icon of my wiki [02:56:00] Upload an image then once you've done that and are on the file page, hover over the image, right click, and press "Copy image URL". It should copy a link starting in `https://static.miraheze.org` to your clipboard. Go to Special:ManageWiki/settings > Styling > Logo (and Icon) and insert the URL there [02:58:58] thc [02:59:00] thx [03:16:17] Not sure if you're still online, but please feel free to ask, permission isn't needed to get help. [03:20:09] [1/2] @agentisai I apologize for the ping, I saw in the chat that you have Steward permissions. There are about 10 of us on the SN page who created wiki’s 2-4 weeks ago and we were not granted bureaucrat permission at wiki creation due to a bug. I understand there are few Stewards and they are very busy. But is this something you could assist us with? [03:20:10] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Stewards%27_noticeboard#Administrator/Bureaucrat_access [03:21:40] Sure [03:21:57] I was planning to clerk the SN/RfRW in a bit [03:24:08] Thank you! [03:40:05] notaracham: they disconnected [03:46:16] also how do I get verify in this server? [03:47:01] type `/auth` [03:47:42] alright [03:48:43] not sure of your username/wiki but I've processed all the ones that were actionable [03:50:29] I think it doesn't work [03:52:34] Looks like I'm good now, thank you again! [03:52:42] Glad to help! [03:54:11] [1/2] my miraheze name is not the same as my discord name [03:54:12] [2/2] I think this is the reason which cause my accound can't be verify [04:02:13] the name being different shouldn't matter [04:02:23] did you get a dm from the bot? [04:04:13] I did, and I already done the process [04:35:35] bot loves to nap [04:35:49] sleepy bot [05:23:14] The vote closes in 24 hours. [05:23:42] oh boy [05:24:02] it's 8am for me, happy new year eve [05:24:36] bit then: preparations <:squint:755498402346827946> [05:25:02] oh, interesting, 24 hours left [05:44:42] [1/2] So. Much. Preparations. [05:44:43] [2/2] Looking forward to closing this RfC chapter and diving into the work. [06:33:04] where can i find a list of all pages for my wiki [06:38:20] Special:AllPages [06:38:40] Special:SpecialPages is a good place to see a lot of stuff [07:32:19] ok i imported from fandom and it also imported each user's message wall [07:32:27] so now i have a bunch of random empty message walls on my wiki [07:32:34] is there any way i can delete them all in one go [07:32:53] without selecting each one and deleting them individually [07:34:06] and the same goes with threads [07:35:09] [1/2] this is what my special:allpages looks like [07:35:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1190921069561917491/2023-12-30.png?ex=65a38ead&is=659119ad&hm=efafcc2a7d3060110955325795b45a9bc37ea71b066df797eef2e06a2de04716& [07:35:35] the main issue is that these message walls and threads show up when you click random page [07:35:53] and i dont want my wiki readers to be going to random empty message walls and threads [07:36:13] not sure if NukeDPL works but I think that extension used to allow you to match a regex and delete pages matching it [07:36:44] used to? [07:38:00] last time I tried Nuke it couldn't recognize imported pages, needs to be checked all over again [07:38:25] also NukeDPL requires DLP3 [07:38:41] so will i have to manually delete all of them [07:39:05] I don't remember if pywikibot can delete [07:39:18] I tried w/ AWB, it was semi manual [07:39:48] mostly cus I could easily filter out what I need to delete [07:39:59] fandom junk is harder to filter [07:40:44] you can try the Special:Nuke page too, if you can figure out the "SQL LIKE pattern" thing <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [07:41:13] yeah, gotta check documentation [07:41:37] you'll have to rely on wildcard [07:41:52] like `Message Wall*` [07:42:21] yeah i think itd be easier just manually deleting them lol [07:42:32] probably more work to figure out "SQL LIKE pattern" [07:44:01] looking at the nuke help page rn [07:44:05] no idea what this means [07:44:13] oh well ill get to it tomorrow [07:45:45] btw something you can try in nuke is, leave all the fields empty, choose the (main) in namespace and list pages [07:47:23] [1/2] it should list all your main pages, then you can select the thread etc ones only [07:47:24] [2/2] you can mass select stuff by clicking on one then another one with shift-click [07:47:54] i was able to nuke threads and message walls [07:48:05] i had to do it in batches though i think theres a limit to the amount you can do at once [07:48:44] ohh ok [07:48:46] lemme ty [07:49:21] wait message walls and threads wont show up [07:49:34] its only like actual articles [07:51:00] huh, maybe if you change namespace to all? [07:51:14] yea im trying rn its taking 2 years to load [07:55:49] still not there [07:55:56] oh well its fine ill just manually delete them [08:05:05] I've got a problem. The `(managewiki)` permission has been revoked from the Founder usergroup on C.Syde's Wiki, making it impossible for me to modify usergroups. Will this issue be fixed eventually? [08:06:21] I need that permission if I'm going to continue updating usergroup permissions. [08:06:36] @agentisai was working on some permissions changes to ManageWiki it seems. managewiki as a right no longer exists (I think) but is modulized for each section of ManageWiki. Maybe ManageWiki cache was not purged after change or something... or it wasn't updated fully yet... [08:07:04] you can't edit ManageWiki/permissions outright? Can you take a screenshot? [08:07:41] @agentisai did you purge ManageWiki cache, changes to LS ManageWiki configs need a cache reset as well. [08:07:57] Yes [08:08:08] it's reflected in ListGroupRights as well as ManageWiki [08:08:12] Huh [08:08:13] Yeah, I can't. If I didn't know better, I'd say that the `(managewiki)` permission was blacklisted or something. [08:08:43] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1190929515510235206/PrtScr_capture_1036.png?ex=65a3968a&is=6591218a&hm=c82db74c6b7b18d7f4dbcb7b60be7e78e4935b7ae095a07ffa171ac8059c6477& [08:10:56] I see why. I forgot to backport one line of code [08:10:59] One moment please [08:55:06] should work now [09:26:22] hi [09:26:56] i need a site admin right [09:28:45] now i on sn [09:29:28] my username is 玛莉亚·花子 [09:30:45] i hope steward grant me right [09:30:59] look sn [09:55:06] What about the `(managewiki)` permission? [09:59:16] From my understanding the managewiki right no longer exists [09:59:37] [1/2] I feel like this isn't worth a support post so I'll just ask it here... [09:59:37] [2/2] Is there any way to customize how the pages in a category will look like?... [10:00:25] It's still listed as a right on Special:AllMessages. [10:00:54] The message might exist but it doesn't exist in AvailableRights I think. [10:01:28] wait, if no ManageWiki right then what? [10:01:41] it's now split into 4 rights for each module in ManageWiki [10:01:50] <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [10:02:35] [1/3] managewiki-core, managewiki-extensions, [10:02:35] [2/3] managewiki-namespaces, managewiki-permissions, managewiki-settings [10:02:35] [3/3] so I guess 5 [10:03:14] I see [10:03:32] although not sure why [10:04:30] I'm not sure I fully do myself, but admittedly it does make sense. As a MediaWiki developer, having seperate rights for support functions is good IMO, and there would sometimes be a reason to only allow certain ones I guess... [10:04:40] maybe by leaving core to bureaus and the rest to sysops [10:05:02] actually no, permissions has to be on bureaus too [10:06:13] I don't see the absolute need for it, but also don't see an issue with it and it does make sense for some edge cases IE allowing sysops to edit settings and extensions or even namespaces but probably not for that one and nothing else either... [10:11:19] And which one of them is the parent permission for the restricted permissions? Since `(managewiki)` was the parent permission of `(managewiki-editdefault)` and `(managewiki-restricted)`. Neither of those permissions can be accessed without `(managewiki)`. I should know. Because I tested them when I was given them temporarily for testing. [10:13:05] managewiki-editdefault and managewiki-restricted might be their own permission now, or the parent is whatever module you are on, IE if editing a restricted setting in ManageWiki/settings it might be managewiki-settings. I am not certain but I can check the extension and find out... [10:16:39] You know I'm not actually sure... it's been so long since I've worked on ManageWiki I have to learn the code again... will find out tomorrow. [11:15:39] was the sidebar changed? [11:16:25] as a bcrat there used to be stuff abt managewiki on the sidebar but now its missing [11:31:34] the application of rights has changed, were you a part of custom admin role? [11:31:55] default bureaus have no changes, as far as I can tell [11:33:25] Having a `OpaqueResponseBlocking` for all my static images... has anyone had the same problem/knows how to solve it? [11:34:16] nope. default bcrat, site founder [11:34:33] i have access to managewiki and can change them, but cant view it in the sidebar which is an issue [11:39:37] I still can, guess it's cache <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [13:06:53] What’s the current score for the RfC? [13:07:50] Not worth counting prob I can check [13:10:54] OK! It looks like Option C will win, but there are still a whole lot of votes. [13:15:20] +82 for 1C [13:15:57] It would be a significant last minute swing if C lost [13:17:20] I don’t think there’s enough active people on Mira left to wring it [13:17:49] I know, right? But I don’t even want to think about that. I think people splitting off to WikiTide is what almost k\\\\\d Miraheze. [13:18:49] That's why reunification is best [13:19:08] Likely [13:19:33] Also @.labster I love your Strengthliest support LMAO [13:29:47] miraheze [13:31:19] ezeharim [13:32:09] sounds like the name of a biblical angel tbh [13:33:50] Cause Miraheze is holy in it’s mission [13:35:09] its mission to wiki [13:35:26] i joined this server because a fantasy rp server im in uses miraheze to organize all its lore :D [13:37:14] I play on a minecraft worldbuilding server but we stuck on fandom [13:37:26] For our wiki [13:37:31] minecraft worldbuilding [13:37:36] what like stoneworks? [13:37:46] It’s literally stoneworks [13:37:57] lol [13:38:19] Elusive Stoneworks Wiki Moderator here 👋 [13:39:03] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1191012646699405352/image0.jpg?ex=65a3e3f6&is=65916ef6&hm=740451c4ddfeea1b37d3bd9a2498e49dd5f091387c9291f810b0990cc36a6b36& [13:39:19] Now to do the anti stoneworks player thing and go to the beach [13:39:28] partially real cus it's names of two stars [13:39:42] now to do the anti stoneworks thing and touch grass [13:39:53] [13:39:59] No grass round here [13:40:00] Got sand [13:40:05] touch sand [13:40:07] and then eat it [13:40:10] Going to [13:40:12] (don't eat sand) [13:40:15] Was hungry [13:40:28] what condiment do you think can make sand taste palatable [13:40:37] Ketchup [13:41:05] gonna conduct a study that will take year's of research and mountains of grant money [15:49:33] <1437_dreamurr> Is there a way to change the subdomain of my wiki? [16:20:28] [1/2] you can create tasks in [[Phabricator]] [16:20:28] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phabricator [16:20:29] [2/2] first of all, Visit Meta's "Special:ManageWiki/core/ + subdomain" to make sure that the desired subdomain is not yet being used by anyone [16:20:29] [16:44:07] <1437_dreamurr, replying to kiju1108> thx [16:47:02] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1191059956867289088/hg4mkVdZZB.mp4?ex=65a41006&is=65919b06&hm=71dadee9cb4f52868dac5fd78a5a2700d8d27f4aa838345947d79abc45457a14& [16:47:03] Why did it disappear [16:49:00] Some wikis need their ManageWiki cache reset. The script is currently on letter 'l'. [16:52:13] Is it currently running? [16:53:59] Of course, or else if would be at 'm' right now \:) [17:01:15] Did you not use mwscript or did it not log? [17:05:40] I did but I believe logsalmsgbot died last night for a brief while when cloud14's i/o was up so it didn't relay to #sre [17:06:13] Yes that's the issue [17:06:21] @paladox can you restart it [17:08:04] done [17:08:18] thanks [17:29:36] should work now, please try again [19:22:35] [1/3] has anyone here used the fontawesome extension before? idky but my icons arent showing up 🤔 [19:22:35] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1191099100670738512/image.png?ex=65a4347b&is=6591bf7b&hm=7de8769e8886e79ca80bddcb8d93a78b413b38916ef40c9717b3fc275630b98d& [19:22:36] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1191099100926595082/image.png?ex=65a4347b&is=6591bf7b&hm=11d238b43c9915571b1b1c2e21f6fc8a0560f7273dfcf1ae42784388679069b3& [19:39:46] doesn't that mean your pc doesn't have the font installed to display it? [20:03:59] <.labster, replying to cynicalsix> Yeah that looks like the extension is inserting the codes, but you didn’t load the fontawesome font file. Possibly a CSS cache issue, possibly just missing CSS. [20:53:05] Got it I'll try when I get home [21:55:00] Do remember, voting on Miraheze's future ends in ~7 hours and 5 minutes. Please vote before then. Thanks to all who have participated thus far.