[00:19:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <chimecrime, replying to verdessence> [1/8] btw if you currently need the admin links that were in the sidebar, you can add a temporary replacement (till it gets fixed) in the MediaWiki:Sidebar page
[00:19:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <chimecrime, replying to verdessence> [2/8] `* Temp Admin
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[00:19:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <chimecrime, replying to verdessence> [8/8]  Special:DataDump|Manage/Download this wiki's dump`
[00:54:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tatiannaz> how can i delete one of my wiki's? i've already closed it
[00:54:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bwm0, replying to tatiannaz> if it’s closed, it’ll be deleted within….60 days (i think?) automatically
[00:55:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bwm0> and then the DB will be dropped when SRE runs the script
[00:55:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tatiannaz, replying to bwm0> oh okayy
[00:59:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> If you'd like a faster deletion, filing, a request on the stewards notice board is the way to go
[01:20:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mrbradlerz, replying to notaracham> Hopefully when/if Option C wins tomorrow we'll start getting wiki deletion requests fulfilled!
[01:21:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> They've already been done by me
[01:22:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> but regardless, it won't be an instant transfer
[01:23:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mrbradlerz> And what is the score right now? Someone just "Supported" Option d.
[01:27:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tali64, replying to mrbradlerz> Option C to become the winner
[01:29:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mrbradlerz, replying to tali64> OK good. I wonder if wiki creation will be on pause while the merger happens. And are you sure it's been coordinated such that is goes well?
[01:32:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> It's a process with a lot of moving parts, but parties involved with the technical and legal parts of the merger have been in close contact.
[01:32:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mrbradlerz> OK then!
[01:32:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> More to come on that when there's more to say, hopefully soon. 🙂
[01:33:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mrbradlerz> And what about things such as wiki creation being put on pause? It would be stressful dealing with all of that at once, wouldn't it? If I ran a website and was getting requests while making a major change, it would be very stressful.
[01:41:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> I can't speak for the technical team, but a brief pause seems plausible.  Rest assured, any planned maintenance when things start moving will be announced by the SRE team, with appropriate coordination with wiki creator team members.
[02:00:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jph2, replying to mrbradlerz> I'm not a guru, but I don't anticipate any issues with wiki creations except maybe for a short time during a physical movement between servers, the same as any impact on existing wikis.
[02:00:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jph2> like NotAracham said
[02:03:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jph2, replying to mrbradlerz> frankly, this is the least stressful aspect of the process (unless you're requesting a wiki, obviously). in any case, it will be managed. I have not doubt there will be intense effort to minimize impact on the community, both current and future.
[02:04:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> As a former WC myself, can confirm.
[03:40:42] <MacFan4000>	 A. -54, B. +36, C. +82, D. -66
[03:41:56] <MacFan4000>	 C will for sure win unless it suddenly gets 47 oppose or B gets 47 support in the next 1.5 hours
[03:42:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> if you remove conditional supports, the numbers would shift quite a lot too
[03:46:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gamman0942> [1/2] I'll teach 10people to earn $50k within a week but you will pay me 10% of your profit when you receive it. Note only interested people should apply, send me a DM or drop a message let's get started by asking (HOW) via WhatsApp 
[03:46:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gamman0942> [2/2] +1 (707) 831-7330
[03:48:07] <MacFan4000>	 @Discord Moderators ^^
[03:48:30] <CosmicAlpha>	 They already handled it
[04:50:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> RfC technically closes in a few minutes, but I won't be able to close it tonight.
[04:51:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <orduin> Happy new year folks!
[04:52:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Happy New Year!
[05:00:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu> Vote ended?
[05:00:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> It has
[05:01:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> 🎉
[05:02:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> Shall I mark it as closed @orduin ?
[05:02:16] <MacFan4000>	 Happy new years!
[05:05:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tatiannaz> happy new years for est
[05:05:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tatiannaz> my one year miraheze anniversary is next february
[05:09:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bwm0> Votes now suspended on RfC, awaiting Void's closure/
[05:10:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bwm0> @orduin When you do close, just delete/replace my note with whatever you write. Final count of votes is on there.
[05:12:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Happy New Year everyone!
[05:13:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bwm0, replying to cosmicalpha> Happy 2024!
[05:14:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <kiju1108> happy new year!
[05:19:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bwm0> Is the RfC meant to be closed? I’m under the impression it has to be closed by a Steward, though voting is suspended.
[05:19:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bwm0> It should be marked as open until a steward officially closes, correct? Asking for a friend 😂.
[05:23:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> It's up the the Steward to declare a winner.
[05:24:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> I got less than a hour
[05:24:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> Than it will be the new year
[05:24:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> Happy New Year 🎉
[05:25:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster, replying to bwm0> Since voting was slowing down a lot, I can't see much point in keeping it open.
[05:25:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> But yes, process is important.
[05:25:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bwm0, replying to .labster> 💯 agree with you here, just want to make sure the process is respected.
[05:27:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bwm0> I’m not on wiki, if someone could revert to state the RfC as open, would be good. Minor detail.
[05:27:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bwm0> Don’t erase the message or anything, just flip the banner at the very top from closed to open. If not happy to do.
[06:06:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tali64> It's been 2024 for me for 6 minutes now
[06:32:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> It's weird talking to people in the future
[06:33:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> lol
[06:34:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.labster> Is life better in 2024?  Do you have flying cars yet?  We're still wondering back in 2023.
[06:43:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bwm0, replying to .labster> Can confirm, flying cars are a thing.
[06:43:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bwm0> The iCar is pretty crazy.
[06:43:44] <CosmicAlpha>	 lol
[06:50:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <lovesnextmissessandra> It’s 2024 for me now
[07:09:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yok939> Happy new year!
[07:09:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yok939> I'm not sure about my task on the phabricator
[07:10:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yok939> I only wanted to use file dump
[10:15:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> The fight against the langoliers has concluded, and I am pleased to report that I am fit and ready for duty in 2024.  Looking forward to making this one hell of a year for wiki-hosting.
[10:19:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091, replying to yok939> You don't need to importdump images if you have a Windows PC (or somehow you can manage to run Wine with that)
[10:20:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091> Use this to batch upload images: https://github.com/Aspallar/Wiki-Up
[11:17:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mrbradlerz> It looks like Option C won! I just had to check, especially given the fact I had a bad dream last night that there was some issue with the RfC.
[11:18:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Still waiting for a steward but option C was highest vote
[11:18:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Then the boards will come to a legal agreement
[11:27:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to mrbradlerz> Lmao
[11:56:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <logbucket> Does anyone know how option c will actually effect the site? Are we going to have to move over content to another site, will things continue as normal with new management? ETC
[11:57:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> They'll be server moves eventually
[11:57:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I expect periods where there's read only / no account creation / no wiki creation
[11:57:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> It should be fairly short though
[12:41:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jph2> As I understand it, MH wiki owners won't need to do anything. Server moves will be transparent to them except for any read only periods needed.
[12:43:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> If you only have a Miraheze wiki and account, I expect no action expect a bit of limited availability (read only / no account creation)
[12:43:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> If you have both a Miraheze and WikiTide wiki with the same name, I'm not sure yet what will happen
[12:44:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> If you have both a Miraheze account and WikiTide account of the same username, i expect you'll need to take some action to merge the accounts back together.
[12:44:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Please don't do anything until official advice is given though
[12:46:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mrbradlerz> I expect the merger to take a couple months I guess? I still have an unresolved wiki deletion request.
[12:46:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I'm not sure on timescales
[12:47:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> It will depend how long legal agreements, data transfer assessments and how long we keep servers in Stevenage
[12:47:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> I don't think it's too useful trying to speculate about all these things
[12:47:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I'm not sure what our contractual obligations are with existing providers that both orgs use
[12:47:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> I've seen a lot of theories and things being said that aren't exactly accurate
[12:48:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mrbradlerz, replying to rhinosf1> What is Stevenage? Is it the data center or its location?
[12:48:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> A city
[12:48:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> It's where we have our data centre
[12:48:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I've just been through it on the train
[12:48:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> But indeed, there's no need to worry and nothing will be rushed or done in an unexpected or unannounced way
[12:48:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mrbradlerz, replying to rhinosf1> That’s what I thought. I’m guessing servers might move to the cloud?
[12:49:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> WikiTide has existing infra
[12:49:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yok939, replying to max20091> Woah! thanks max!
[12:49:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I'm not sure on spec
[13:06:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091, replying to mrbradlerz> yep
[14:32:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <peppermintpatty> [1/3] https://trollpasta.com/wiki/File:Tv.png
[14:32:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <peppermintpatty> [2/3] https://trollpasta.com/wiki/File:Kat.jpg
[14:32:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <peppermintpatty> [3/3] https://trollpasta.com/wiki/File:B.png
[14:33:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <peppermintpatty> there's no way to remove the Images category from these 3 images
[17:22:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.tounae_official> how to do if I have same username in Wikitide?
[17:22:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.tounae_official> Can I manually delete my Wikitide account in advance?
[17:23:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Please do not do anything
[17:24:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> If action is needed, users will be contacted individually via email and mass message
[17:24:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <.tounae_official> ok I got it
[18:20:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <redmin0> There are two open requests for the Wiki Creator role: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_permissions#Buehl106_(Wiki_creator) and https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Requests_for_permissions#Waki285_(Wiki_creator).
[18:23:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realcastle> [1/2] so the rfc is closed
[18:23:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realcastle> [2/2] what happens now
[18:24:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <redmin0> Please read the messages above (which should really be compiled together by someone who was involved in its drafting process, IMO).
[18:24:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <redmin0> It is technically not closed yet but option C is the clear winner
[18:25:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <redmin0> The BoD of Miraheze Ltd and WikiTide Inc now need to handle the legal stuff.
[18:26:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <redmin0> (As well as the technical ones)
[18:33:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/2] Quick Question.
[18:33:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/2] Is there a functionality available for using <iframe src=http.....> /iframe? If yes, which extension covers that? If no, has it ever been ansked before, but not possible? Or never thought off before?
[18:37:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to rodejong> There is not. You can use JavaScript to accomplish it but even then, you will need to verify the website you're going to link to is on the Content Security Policy
[18:37:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Just Google Maps Street View
[18:38:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> I can do it with Open Street Maps, but it seems Google Maps is a different kind of story
[18:38:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> Perhaps the Maps extension might be of use?
[18:40:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> ... Looking ...
[18:41:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Yeah that is active, as we have Leaflet Maps
[18:41:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> jwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Nex%C3%B8_Kingdom_Hall
[18:42:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> But Google Maps gives an Ifram tag in stead
[18:42:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> <iframe src="https ://www.google.com/maps/embed?pb=!4v1704133640432!6m8!1m7!1sSgTlmLS2wqhU1LZ3qPZtfg!2m2!1d55.27626970671908!2d14.79899516629299!3f351.95!4f-6.590000000000003!5f0.8160813932612223" width="600" height="450" style="border:0;" allowfullscreen="" loading="lazy" referrerpolicy="no-referrer-when-downgrade">/iframe
[18:58:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/8] And Firebase is not installed, so can't use the same code as we use for Leaflet
[18:58:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/8] {{#widget:Google Street View
[18:58:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [3/8] |lat=<firebaseraw url="http myfirebase.firebaseIO.com/lat" />
[18:58:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [4/8] |lng=<firebaseraw url="http  myfirebase.firebaseIO.com/lng" />
[18:58:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [5/8] |yaw=370.64659986187695
[18:58:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [6/8] |pitch=-20
[18:58:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [7/8] |zoom=0
[18:58:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [8/8] }}
[18:58:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> That would have been nice
[19:02:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> #widget corresponds to the Widgets extension which was uninstalled on Miraheze due to repeated security vulnerabilities
[19:05:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/7] But we do use {{#display_map:
[19:05:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/7] 55.276344, 14.799015
[19:05:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [3/7]  |minzoom=4
[19:05:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [4/7]  |zoom=14
[19:05:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [5/7]  |maxzoom=17
[19:05:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [6/7]  |service=leaflet
[19:05:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [7/7] }}
[19:05:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Isn't that doing the same?
[19:40:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <taynepo> I owned a wiki and when I checked it I can edit it or do anything else in ainistration wise  what should i do
[19:42:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> @agentisai
[19:45:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stephanustavilrond, replying to agentisai> [1/2] I tried doing that for a Sketchfab model, sadly didn't work. 😦
[19:45:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <stephanustavilrond, replying to agentisai> [2/2] Oh well.
[22:01:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jph2, replying to taynepo> Did you check your user rights to confirm that or is this based on the admin sidebar menu missing?
[22:02:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> Sidebar actually needs to be fixed real quick
[22:02:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> I did a PR to fix that yesterday I am not sure if it was merged though. (or if we are even talking about the same thing)
[22:03:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> It was but now we need to make a PR to miraheze/mediawiki to update the submodule
[22:03:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> I won't miss that soon lol
[22:03:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Run dependabot or `@dependabot recreate` the existing PR for it if you want I guess... if there is one?
[22:04:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> I already did that to merge a few patches 🫣
[22:04:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> and running that on a merger PR caused dependabot to refuse it
[22:05:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> go to insights -> dependabot graph -> dependabot -> run dependabot or something
[22:05:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> oh really?
[22:05:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> <:thonkbutzoom:692099634180653130>
[22:05:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Thats how I manually triggered it to run sometimes lol
[22:06:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jph2> Just FYI, I asked if it was actual rights issue or just the admin sidebar because the admin sidebar has disappeared for me on the wikis I'm admin on.
[22:07:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Its the sidebar. I fixed it yesterday with a PR but my patch wasn't deployed just yet.
[22:07:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> whoa, where has this been all my life?
[22:07:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> this could've come in clutch various times in the past lol
[22:07:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> lol
[22:08:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> I certainly won't miss the 680 PRs currently open by dependabot lol
[22:09:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> Yeah... we could replace dependabot with a modifed version of mediawiki-repos probably, the change will likely be to make it support core hacks still so either still keep a fork or support .patch files.
[22:16:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> I'm going to have a nightmare about supporting local patches
[22:17:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> But it would be easy enough to add it to deploy tool tbh to just apply them post pull
[22:29:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> WT's deploy tool just handles everything in itself