[00:00:22] Anyone else missing stuff? [00:00:51] [1/3] I miss the Desktop/mobile link [00:00:51] [2/3] Maps aren't loading [00:00:52] [3/3] Purge Link is gone [00:03:13] yup [00:05:07] Weird 😮 [00:06:53] same! [00:10:41] 502 Grrrr [00:11:03] Oh, back again [00:11:14] I'm so impatient [00:14:25] Should be fixed... [00:14:38] is there a way to customize or disable the icons next to the 'main page' 'discussion' etc links? [00:15:52] Thanks. It is indeed 🙂 [00:15:59] Thanks for pinging me [00:27:28] wdym [00:28:00] man what's happened [00:29:38] [1/3] (ignore the white, had to change it so it was visible) [00:29:38] [2/3] these little icons? [00:29:39] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193713085240852582/image.png?ex=65adb6f1&is=659b41f1&hm=711202afff196e4a57ca4e057d3a1e6c043407102d9cfd34f52d195bb79392cf& [00:31:12] I guess just `display: none;` [00:31:23] icon id's are pain in the ass tho [00:31:43] [1/2] ugh thats nasty HAHA [00:31:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193713609751150713/image.png?ex=65adb76e&is=659b426e&hm=d9f5f05f6bbab40316e09a615c73402a796a9edec179c5ec8b9ff2ad29242e0f& [00:31:57] i guess i just have to nullify all of these [00:32:05] try background-image: none [00:32:48] hmm, it removes it but there's a giant margin left over for some reason [00:33:10] look at the padding value [00:33:11] removing the padding doesnt change it, weird [00:33:17] it's 20px [00:33:30] oh, for some reason changing it to 2px works but not disabling the padding entirely [00:33:34] thank you! that looks to be it [00:34:01] just make it into `0 20px` [00:34:29] thank you 🙏 youre a godsend [00:34:52] np [00:51:23] On my wiki every time I search for any article on it just takes me to the main page, is this a bug or something [00:57:57] thats a new one [01:05:27] If I want to close off editing the first section, so that people need to start at the first heading... How do I do that? [01:06:48] When I search for an article it takes me back to the main page instead of loading the page I want to read. [01:08:31] WHich Wiki's? [01:09:34] [1/3] https://silverionewscenter.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [01:09:35] [2/3] https://silveriowiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [01:09:35] [3/3] https://secosawiki.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [01:10:27] I'll send the common.css and other technical information if needed. [01:11:43] JS dont affect this [01:11:48] CSS* [01:11:50] JS maybe [01:13:28] Special:Search works but the search bar at the bottom of the page doesn't work properly [01:14:33] I'm using the Eveloution skin for all three wikis. [01:15:34] [1/2] /silverionewscenter.miraheze.org/wiki/King_Londea_orders_the_construction_of_the_Silverio_land_Megaland_Center_shopping_mall;_opens_late_2017 [01:15:35] [2/2] I can read that fine, just no images though [01:15:56] Maybe you put a code in your .js? [01:17:00] Some use that code when they visit their Userpage. Brings them straight to Main Page [01:17:44] What do you mean, [01:18:05] Probably not if you have to ask 😉 [01:18:16] Oh yeah [01:19:05] But I find it strange that the first page I visit, I am not directed to the Mainpage [01:19:25] Hmmm, maybe it's something on my end. [01:19:30] So that's why I was thinking about your .jd [01:19:34] .js* [01:19:46] Extensions maybe causing issues with the page [01:19:59] What do you have? [01:20:36] If you have a link to your .js? [01:21:03] https://silverionewscenter.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.js [01:21:11] https://silverionewscenter.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Mobile.js [01:21:41] No I mean your global .js [01:21:53] your user .js [01:22:29] https://silverionewscenter.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Silverio_2/common.js [01:23:32] That's your local. You don't have one on meta.miraheze.org ? [01:23:56] As you have it on all your wiki's, It must be global [01:24:31] No [01:24:33] Or you mean all Wikipages? [01:24:50] I think global.js can be on any wiki [01:25:22] I have never seen such a page, where can I find this page? [01:26:07] That's new to me. Always thought you needed to be on login or meta. Same as on WIkipedia, needed a global on meta [01:26:45] thats the convention tmk [01:26:48] i may be wrong [01:27:38] Never mind. I thought you were talking about different Wiki's as in 1wiki.miraheze.org, 2wiki.miraheze.org, etc. [01:27:40] Sorry [01:28:20] Is common the skin you use on your wiki? [01:28:34] [1/2] Yes [01:28:34] [2/2] Because the thing is yesterday I was on the Eveloution discord server trying to get skin working properly on all the different wikis, maybe I must have broke something and search isn't working [01:30:52] I'll take another look at Common.css, feel free to see if anything in the code may be causing it https://silverionewscenter.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css [01:32:28] You're doing the heavy stuff I see 🙂 [01:32:51] You have it both on mobile as well as in desktop? [01:34:05] [1/2] Yeah [01:34:05] [2/2] I've gotten so accustomed to FANDOM and the fact that wiki skin customization is so easy on that site, but with the move to Miraheze, I never thought that changing the look of a wiki would be so technical and complicated. [01:34:57] they make is easier within their little sandbox [01:35:11] its just as difficult for any real customization [01:37:24] You learn less when half of the work is done for you. [01:37:30] [1/4] hi uhhh [01:37:30] [2/4] this just suddenly happened :D is anyone else getting this? [01:37:30] [3/4] [01:37:31] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193730164849385582/image.png?ex=65adc6d9&is=659b51d9&hm=89955d12b30b99c5f0bf5268c6b43c64653e1eaa81d0748b3115a83613da3977& [01:37:59] Yeah FANDOM severely limits how far you can customize a wiki's appearance, they don't even let you change the font they forced upon everyone. [01:38:09] wait this might be me but ive no clue why, hang on [01:39:13] oh yeah sorry please ignore that [01:42:12] /me Ignoring it [01:43:25] You have no Idea how often I was puzzleing with .js codes and suddenly it all went wrong 😄 You learn through your mistakes [01:49:12] changes done on common.js/common.css applies to all skins, it is not a specific skin [01:50:13] Yeah, I saw later that he had added it to his common.js too [01:50:16] css* [01:50:45] It's strange though, that it happens to him, not to me [01:51:13] When I look up a page in his wiki, I'm not being transferred back to the Mainpage as he is [01:58:29] Well... I don't have that skin ofcourse, So I'm not being transferred. So it has to be in that part of the css. [02:03:25] Sorry I haven't replied, I tried to figure something out but didn't... [02:04:40] What you mean you don't have "that skin", there is only one skin enabled on his wikis (evelution) [02:04:50] Yeah [02:05:13] @sgplaysgames can you give an example of a page you are searching for, that rediects you to the main page? [02:06:20] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193737421628649512/image.png?ex=65adcd9b&is=659b589b&hm=cbc42359ae312258b52edfc79f89611415a34e45ae356b6027377397d0b6bfa3& [02:06:42] I don't actually as my global is overuling that [02:08:10] I'll send the Eveloution.css file to take a look at the code https://silverionewscenter.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Evelution.css [02:09:28] I need to use /silverionewscenter.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page?useskin=evelution to see his skin. [02:11:43] It affects every page I try to access, I don't know how to fix it [02:12:32] Go to your preferences, Set it to a different skin. and then revert your last edit [02:13:13] The thing if I don't know the names of any other content pages you have, so I have a hard time to confirm the behaviour you are describing, which is why I am asking for an example of a page that does the redirect. Need to see the behaviour before we can really start to look at debugging what is going one [02:14:00] So when I use vector (the old look) the search works fine, but with this new skin, the search doesn't work. [02:14:19] So revert your last edit [02:15:19] Which is probably this edit: silverionewscenter.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Common.css?diff=prev&oldid=290 [02:16:30] a css edit, would be extremely unlikely to cause such behaviour really, since the purpose of css is to change the looks of something, not the functionality [02:17:08] Edit reverted, what's next [02:17:13] The last edits were made in the .css for mobile as well as desktop, in the skin and the common.css [02:17:23] Look if your still redirected [02:17:46] you're* [02:18:33] Beside if the cause was a common.css change, you would be affected as well ro de jong, as since I said earlier it applies to ALL skins [02:19:31] No as I have a global account that makes me heaving my own preferences prioritized [02:20:20] [1/2] I see this [02:20:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193740944021917828/image.png?ex=65add0e3&is=659b5be3&hm=a9e5f44165ac9d7277d8039b25236a15364e5f1049ed823d18ad69657c44c2e0& [02:21:39] sure you got a different skin, than others, but again common.css applies to ALL skins, so also to the skin you uses [02:22:57] Yeah, the normal stuff does apply. But not the skin part. [02:23:08] [1/2] Hence I don't see this [02:23:08] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193741648857940028/image.png?ex=65add18b&is=659b5c8b&hm=2c16ab5fa87dd0de24a5d598fb67e5164ffb18d28ec4fc86d7937279185e53dc& [02:24:34] because most of those changes are from the default evelution's skin file on the MH servers. but any changes to common.css/common.js again applies to ALL SKINS, not only a specific onw [02:26:32] @sgplaysgames again give me a name of a page you are searching for on your wiki, so I can confirm the behavior is happening for everyone, or if it is something on your end only, without seeing the behaviour first, it is basically impossible to tell what would be going on [02:26:56] He said ALL pages! [02:27:09] Just random pick a few [02:27:26] but I don't know what pages he got, thus I don't know what to search for [02:27:32] "Major earthquake strikes Belladonna; hundreds feared dead as government tries to cover up true extent of disaster" is one of the pages [02:27:40] Just picked it out of random [02:28:42] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193743051995226122/image.png?ex=65add2da&is=659b5dda&hm=d811299f267043a02294a67c358c27d4d10cce9cb30130d54216ada493bd0c21& [02:29:04] That's on vector, the test has to be done on Eveloution skin [02:29:49] Hence I say that it doesn't affect me, as I am not on Evolution. [02:30:19] Yeah, but I tried changing to vector and the option isn't even there in my preferences [02:30:38] hmm, yeah the page does exist(very long, and weird title for a page, but that is hopefully beside the point), if I go there via URL, using the search bar indeed takes back to main page, that is certainly odd for sure [02:30:40] Can you show your preferences [02:31:18] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193743707623653458/image.png?ex=65add376&is=659b5e76&hm=84f56acec3ffe05f9dcf20396319c199cab3d41b9b031f258cfa340a7e7a91cf& [02:33:11] which makes your experience irrelevant, and also confirms it is not from common.css, as you would be affected too then (which again is extremely unlikely anyway, as that is not what css is about) [02:34:23] So you are redirected. He is redirected, I am not redirected. [02:39:16] [1/3] I made a couple changes [02:39:17] [2/3] I re-enabled the Vector and Vector 2010 skins which Ro was using therefore it now shows up in my preferences now [02:39:17] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193745711364313149/image.png?ex=65add554&is=659b6054&hm=2c18984e3565d3873c218a8a26a0146a09d19e92ba255ca60ce913169747dc84& [02:39:34] [1/5] Again. he only made a few changes today, all in .css [02:39:34] [2/5] silverionewscenter.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Silverio_2 [02:39:34] [3/5] You can only see one skin, a shared skin. [02:39:35] [4/5] Like he showed us [02:39:35] [5/5] I have to skins, the vector2022 that is my preferred skin, so I do not have Evolution. Only the basic css from commons. The part that affects Evolution users doesn't affect me [02:41:53] [1/3] again are you reading what I am saying? [02:41:54] [2/3] 1: CSS does NOT create the kind of behaviour we are seeing here [02:41:54] [3/3] 2: common.css and common.js DOES NOT CARE WHAT SKIN YOU ARE USING, changes to it affects them all [02:42:32] I saw in the first Preferences that you had blue links to shared css and shared .js [02:42:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193746547201015848/image.png?ex=65add61b&is=659b611b&hm=7aa9fceb36a316ea33b8264946a0ab502dafb25dccf6f74d14d75592c15e5613& [02:43:11] Can you tell me where they lead to? [02:44:57] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193747142184009858/image.png?ex=65add6a9&is=659b61a9&hm=f873cb570bc7af6f313567c75907597907fe685f801aeed68bf70b0fd68ee376& [02:44:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193747142519566337/image.png?ex=65add6a9&is=659b61a9&hm=83f4cbcd8b4cd1d737e7bb18a68497c8caa389324ac5c87673b4fe9e602e488d& [02:45:00] [1/2] and well who says the behavious comes from a change sg made? there are other things that could cause weird things, like changes done in the backend could have broke something. [02:45:01] [2/2] But yeah I do not know really what does this, it is very odd indeed. I would suggest making a thread down in #support at this rate, and then have some patience, as it is probably a more complex issue [02:46:37] [1/2] That's why I'm trying to establish contact with the Evelution discord server to see if it's a bug or something [02:46:38] [2/2] Yeah I'll go to support and create a ticket there and see if I can get it fixed [02:47:40] Changes to those pages would apply for you only, but on all wiki's on Miraheze (so not too commonly used by most, but it has some uses for some people) [02:47:57] Yeah [02:51:32] ahh, if there is a discord for the devs of the skin, that is certainly a good idea too. Hard to say if what causes it is a general bug of the skin itself, or some odd compatibility with what Miraheze might have done, or something 3rd (whatever that 3rd would be...), since it is for sure a very unusual skin.' [02:53:00] Also be sure to be specific in your descriptions, as it only seems to happen (for me at least), if I specifically confirm to go directly to the title search for. Browsing either via URL, or even going to the search result page first and clicking the link there, does take you to the correct page [02:56:22] And tell them that it only happens when you enter the page title in the seach bar in the Evelution Skin. Searching the title in the search bar In Vector does not redirect straigt to the Main Page. [02:56:35] straight* [02:59:36] (I do use the global.css on fandom though, to make their stupid side and top bars a lot less eyecatching, since you know, they have NOTHING to do with what I might be looking for there, and ofc in combination with an addblocker, so over there it is pretty damn handy that it exists :P) [03:33:08] is there a way to make it so an message is sent to my discord every time a new page is made [03:46:41] [1/2] first make a webhook on your discord, which part of that will give you a link for that webhook, then go to your wiki's "Manage this wiki's additional settings", and under the Notifications tab, paste that URL from the webhook into the `Discord Additional Incoming Webhook URLs ($wgDiscordAdditionalIncomingWebhookUrls)` field. [03:46:42] [2/2] (by default it will send every edit, but there are more checkboxes below that should modify what exactly is sent (I think, I have it just default on my wiki)) [03:47:02] oh okay ty for the help! [03:49:53] i did what you said but the webhook didnt send anything [03:50:03] but on my wiki ti did pick up what the webhook is called [03:50:06] it* [03:53:55] Make sure you actually pasted the right link into the right field I guess(and you didn't put it in the avatar URL field for instance). Other than that, not sure what to say, it worked flawlessly for me from day one I set it up [03:54:34] i put in the link that sayd discord.come/apr/webhooks [03:56:07] [1/2] did you paste it in the correct field? double check that you're pasting it here [03:56:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193765050142445618/image.png?ex=65ade757&is=659b7257&hm=0971deff1181452d2612da49691205c08cbf64dd429516a0df9064558632452e& [03:56:48] oh im stupid i put it in the wrong place [03:57:11] i put it in Discord Notification Avatar URL ($wgDiscordAvatarUrl) [03:57:11] it's ok, hopefully it works now! [03:57:17] ill re try it now thanks [03:57:35] oh that determines what icon the "bot" will have when it sends a message to your channel [03:57:49] ohh [03:58:41] okay so i put it where you said and nothing still [03:59:04] double checking that you've saved the settings [03:59:10] yeah i did [03:59:17] it said your changes have been saved [03:59:19] well overrides the avatar, set on the discord side to be more exact, including the version sent down in #global-wiki-feed 🙂 [03:59:35] hmm i wonder if it takes a while to get started [03:59:44] my wiki is about an hour old [03:59:57] and you actually made an edit on your wiki, after you did the last change? [04:00:03] yeah [04:00:46] let me test mine [04:00:54] alrighty [04:03:18] [1/2] works [04:03:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193766859376431154/image.png?ex=65ade906&is=659b7406&hm=c5a6170179e6dc3fddcf0ca456e306968df2e9f298aa2e65b78d82acc26dec1c& [04:03:32] hmm [04:03:44] do i need to remove the picture i set for it in discord [04:03:55] you don't [04:04:03] that shouldn't affect anything [04:04:14] I assume the changes you do, does show down in , which shows changes on all wiki's #global-wiki-feed?(I don't know what your wiki is, so ofc I can't see if they do myself) (if not something other outside your control is wrong, as that one is using the same system, but non-changeable by local admins) [04:04:46] i see my edits in that chat [04:07:04] try creating another hook and use that [04:07:10] alrighty [04:07:18] that's all i can think of at the moment to try and solve this [04:08:13] okay so [04:08:21] i made another but now the first one sent a message [04:08:26] it only said i changed a setting [04:08:33] oh so it is working [04:08:37] and the new one doesnt show i did page edit [04:08:53] waitg [04:08:57] yes it does work [04:09:01] oh [04:09:04] idk why making a new hook fixed the old one [04:09:14] [1/2] i was about to ask if you accidentally checked this box [04:09:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193768351428775987/image.png?ex=65adea6a&is=659b756a&hm=ea851b3cfd1ae004bb8eb83f67f5d24ddf032ae0e86d628cfd5d63a1b93d729e& [04:09:17] and marked as minor edit [04:09:22] nope [04:09:26] yeah sometimes it happens [04:09:27] also [04:09:34] bothhooks are sending now [04:09:36] which is why the whole "turn it off and back on" is a thing [04:09:43] you can remove one of them [04:09:49] alright [04:09:52] then should be all good [04:09:55] thanks for talking this through me btw [04:10:03] no problem, glad to have helped [04:10:22] i removed one now gonna do one more test [04:10:25] making sure it didnt break [04:10:26] aight [04:10:48] the site crashed [04:10:51] i have to reload the page [04:10:58] the wiki or discord? [04:11:01] wiki [04:11:07] i think its my pc [04:11:10] weird, probably too many changes at once [04:11:15] does the hook work now though [04:11:19] whenever i open editor on any wiki it freezes sometimes [04:11:25] hmm [04:12:14] the hook works fully now [04:13:01] ty again for the support [04:13:11] [1/3] Probably just a coincidence really, as a bureaucrat you are not rate-limited, by default on your wiki, so can't really make too mange changes, was about to say maybe just a freak 50X from MH, but sounds like it might be a browser issue, maybe check if you got a browser extension in general that messes with the wikis. [04:13:12] [2/3] It is also one of those things where the full link should be kept private, and thus is one of the few fields in managewiki too that is totally hidden from any non-bureaucrats, so makes it hard to verify 100% for us if you did it right, and a SS would ofc NOT be a good idea either for same reasons. (most other fields would just be greyed out for non-bureaucrats if they go to a managew [04:13:12] [3/3] iki page) [04:14:32] yeah i think its my broswer as i have issues with other wiki sites too sometimes, and yeah i wouldnt show that link here [04:15:00] I'm having trouble right now trying to get some images to center in tabs. I can't even get it to display the way I want it to in CSS right now [04:20:34] [1/3] MsUpload's drag & drop area isn't shown while editing, even in incognito with my browser extensions disabled. I haven't used my wiki in a while, if it's relevant at all. [04:20:34] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193771203299659897/image.png?ex=65aded12&is=659b7812&hm=763dc5a080e861c0f1e7bce34d87750e16cd96449cfa098a3f42d7c187083b85& [04:20:35] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193771203635195914/image.png?ex=65aded12&is=659b7812&hm=bd190a836c06a933a5cb3d3cefef87103a4d49a2aaaa3694fb761bc5c91994c4& [04:28:22] hi [04:51:55] [1/2] im using visual editor rn [04:51:56] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193779094383497246/2024-01-07.png?ex=65adf46b&is=659b7f6b&hm=ba8960197b3c9911ccc5cf2ab618320fa0b1f637c6240b154f94d74e0e5bf773& [04:52:01] the blue bar thingy is a template [04:52:10] how can i make the template not just a blue bar [04:52:17] (this started happening when i turned on template data) [04:52:30] (it showed up as a puzzle piece thingy before that) [05:02:45] can someone mark https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Foundation_policies for translation [06:37:48] thank you! [07:24:20] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193817448458231909/image.png?ex=65ae1823&is=659ba323&hm=3680b0299a7d3eaa7002b83450c9371db2a2e448b760cf63277a45d16d580b4d& [07:24:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193817482356592661/image.png?ex=65ae182b&is=659ba32b&hm=dee84a8df6dbcb5490efb9a1a91e23fdec1fe7c7ef618b90a499c13f6c032539& [07:24:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193817489331716167/image.png?ex=65ae182d&is=659ba32d&hm=3368a94c1d60fddf3a2dea2f12d71fe714fe2e355d3bf0e39387d6c4f86626e0& [07:24:35] How can I get images into text like this? [07:31:31] make a template with a small image [07:32:34] [1/2] for example, Template:Button would be [07:32:34] [2/2] `[[File:Button_icon_{{{1}}}.png|20px]]` [07:32:34] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7b1 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Button_icon_%7b%7b%7b1%7d%7d%7d.png [07:33:02] the icon images would have similar names, and the parameter of template would dictate which one is needed [07:33:05] [1/2] The marking as translation request above reminds me that before the unfortunate events in June https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Meta_translation_reform was almost ready to be published. It'd be nice to have some new thoughts regarding the proposals before publication. I'd still like to go ahead with the RfC soon to deal with the current situation which isn't i [07:33:05] [2/2] deal [07:33:55] if you type `{{button|square}}` it would put file Button_icon_square.png [07:33:55] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:button [07:34:23] obviously if you'll typo the parameter it would show red file link [07:35:20] need help with this yall [07:35:28] Got it. Thank you! [07:36:22] I don't understand man [07:36:30] lemme link [07:36:53] one sec [07:37:22] https://robloxdday.miraheze.org/wiki/Grenadier_Class [07:37:31] its not the same page but click visual editor [07:37:49] the "class" template just shows up as a blue bar thing [07:37:51] [1/2] >visual editor [07:37:52] [2/2] <:moonch:794697217826095165> [07:38:12] and same with all other templates [07:43:15] infoboxes i mean [07:51:41] @theoneandonlylegroom still there [07:53:03] you don't have to ping me man [07:53:17] my fault [07:53:22] I'm not by laptop yet to check stuff out [07:53:42] lemme have my last work off day lol [07:54:01] alr [08:07:18] i think this is some weird quirk of the visual editor? [08:08:26] [1/2] hm can confirm, msupload doesn't work for me either. the icon is gone in the toolbar and the bottom box has "display:none" applied to it [08:08:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193828545575800912/image.png?ex=65ae2279&is=659bad79&hm=ab8f39f2d4bc37ef1f43bfcbf42464b4048bc3aac0d42a0ddf5cb78d51d6eb4d& [08:11:25] seems like multiple extensions broke? why? [08:14:09] also it is me or Translate got more wacky [08:14:32] I often can't see Translate button despite pages having translations already [08:15:43] I'll take a look tomorrow [10:15:55] oddly enough only one of my infoboxes broke, despite them all being formatted basically the same way [10:17:48] something to do with the format tag but this wasnt happening before the merge [10:19:16] oh well anyway, i fixed it [10:22:05] How does the meta individual wiki relation work? Some people seem to have made accounts on meta which means I can't make those accounts in the wiki groups but I also can't give them groups. Do they somehow need to join the wiki? [10:24:40] yes, they need to have visited your wiki logged in at least once before they'll be available for most things from local management screens [10:26:51] Oh that is easy 🙂 thanks [10:44:30] I'll help the first 20 people interested in how to earn $100k within 72hours but you will reimburse me 10% of your dividend when you collect it. Note: only interested people should send a friend request or  send me a dm! asking  me HOW! Or contact via WhatsApp, +1 (508) 214‑8755 [10:48:00] @Discord Moderators [11:01:04] Handled [11:12:28] Hello [11:14:14] hi [11:15:47] hello [11:16:04] Hello hello [11:16:41] an influx of new people [11:16:42] hello there [11:17:38] I tried to make an account yesterday and I found out I'm IP banned from editing since February last year and im super confused cuz i hadnt heard of miraheze up until yesterday [11:17:55] I sent an email n stuff but i think it may have been to the wrong address [11:18:41] @senyorfer what was the error in full? [11:18:52] with your own ip removed, leave the range if you can [11:25:59] [1/2] Yesterday I attempted to make the account on my computer at home and the reason was "Long term abuse" instead of Web host or proxy [11:26:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193878262523375667/Screenshot_20240108-112347_Samsung_Internet.jpg?ex=65ae50c6&is=659bdbc6&hm=0dc6f2e6b238107d147db50677a9340429d2316965de37dcd86b08ad012b9ca4& [11:27:01] what country are you in? [11:31:21] Ireland [11:32:38] hmm [11:46:29] this looks like a manual block, so maybe wait for agent [11:49:20] hmm apparently this webhost is a little infamous for questionable traffic according to some quick searches [11:51:03] We can create accounts for people if their only option is VPNs/proxies [11:58:12] I can show the error I get at home on my computer later [11:58:38] oh you mean you get a different error? [11:59:00] i think it's due to the webhost too if it's abuse and you are new to MH [11:59:20] is this a range-based block? [12:03:17] Hello [12:03:24] Hello [12:03:34] o/ [12:04:14] wut [12:04:31] oh it's supposed to be a waving emote [12:04:42] oh [12:04:53] 👋 [12:35:12] Ya, Im on a different device and wifi atm [12:35:36] I'll send the one I get at home in a bit [12:36:02] VPNs/proxy IPs are blocked from registration as anti vandalism measure [12:36:34] if you need to use them constantly then a steward can create an account for you, there's no restrictions when you are logged in [12:36:43] I use VPN a lot [12:52:21] I dont use a VPN so Im guessing it might be a proxy IP [13:49:05] hello, I had a private wiki recently created and it's telling me that I don't have member or admin permission in it [13:49:18] how do I solve this? [13:56:12] I have the same issue [13:58:11] In order to solve, then prob go to `Stewards' noticeboard >> Permissions > Administrator/Bureaucrat access` and then contact [13:58:59] It appears to be a glitch or something [14:31:58] the search feature is still broken on trollpasta.com [14:32:11] It's a recurring issue [14:50:13] oh [14:50:15] a [14:50:16] ok [17:10:08] [1/2] I messaged the Evelution discord server last night, they are aware of it and have already released a fix, but it's not on Miraheze yet [17:10:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193964869024743565/image.png?ex=65aea16f&is=659c2c6f&hm=e2bc164c550cac5454ea8dedb388a945d44feb342cafb87462853817ebc45fdd& [17:15:15] evelution is a weird skin tbh [17:15:33] it's interesting, that's for sure [17:16:10] I believe Citizen skin's dev keep posting here about updates [17:16:32] this guy, I haven't seen him in a long time [17:17:44] and the user who kept pestering Cosmic about adding Evelution disappeared once it was added lol [17:18:14] He mentioned that the fix won't be applied yet on Miraheze because there was some merge going on or something, what does he mean by that [17:19:03] if he means reorganization that's a weird? how it should affect software lol [17:19:21] it shouldn't affect anything, no [17:20:13] [1/2] No that's not what I meant by merge [17:20:13] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193967407631433898/image.png?ex=65aea3cc&is=659c2ecc&hm=33c714d8097e627c37b84b888c44f9288e6697ae27bb2307e4c92527b164f66b& [17:20:39] I'm not SRE [17:21:47] Oh okay. If anyone can forward the word to SRE it would be appreciated [17:22:01] I'd read that as saying 'MH needs to pull the update, or I the skin author need to make a pull request to integrate it' [17:22:34] lol, our Evelution version is 146.1.0 [17:42:53] thanks, I'll try [17:43:46] No problem. Hope it works [17:48:23] I wonder how many wikis on Mira actually use Evelution [17:48:44] one of the reasons I tried Mira was Cosmos lol [18:03:05] [1/2] So I was wondering [18:03:05] [2/2] How do you make a wiki a private wiki [18:03:32] I know a wiki I'm admin for is private, but somebody somehow got pass the private wiki thing and made an account and page [18:03:43] How would I stop that from happening [18:03:52] any updates on this? we're nearing 24hrs since it's been broken [18:06:26] [1/2] the main page of a private wiki is still public, it needs to be, since someone needs to visit while logged in, before admins, can grants them access to the rest of the wiki. So yeah there is nothing malicious in an account being created on a private wiki, but they wont be able to see anything but the main page (and probably their own user page I think), unl [18:06:26] [2/2] ess they are assigned to the `member` group [18:08:36] I'm just worried about us getting heavily vandalized since this person somehow got pass the manual approval and made a page [18:09:26] The wiki has had super horrible raids on the old fandom wiki and we tried to lock all pages from being edited from non admins, but them being able to make pages has me worried [18:09:48] @gamerdanceryt what was the page they created [18:10:12] And please DM that [18:10:32] It was a genuine person making a genuine page, but the fact that it looked like anyone can make a page has me worried for the next raid [18:11:36] @gamerdanceryt if it's a private wiki, they shouldn't be making pages [18:11:55] I'm happy to advise if it's something possible as a former sysadmin [18:12:17] I would ask DM because it's a possible security issue [18:13:21] Okay I doubled checked and it was on the old wiki platform and not the new one [18:13:42] Ok [18:13:50] The links look super similar and it's the same logo on both sites, so it looked like our new wiki from the embed [18:14:27] [1/2] So a private wiki will only show the home page? [18:14:27] [2/2] How would I make the whole wiki accessible, but just not allow people to join it [18:14:53] private wikis are strictly behind member user role, except for main page as Gummiel said [18:15:37] you can make a custom main page, and place a link to it on the real one, which you can make otherwise minimal [18:16:17] You could revoke the `edit` right from the `(everyone)` group and assign it to another group like `autopatrolled` and then grant people you trust that group [18:16:27] Ah okay [18:17:16] And then I can force a specific layout in the while wiki by default iirc? I saw one that matches a different independent wiki I work on that I think will look perfect on my wiki. [18:17:45] The one with the navbar on the side that looks like the old Wikipedia layout [18:18:08] you can assign various skins yes + modify via CSS [18:18:20] the old Wikipedia layout is legacy Vector [18:18:32] the current one and default on Miraheze is Vector 2022 [18:18:48] just go to Additional settings admin menu, Styling tab [18:19:03] and right in the first setting choose Vector (legacy) as default skin [18:19:12] Cool beans [18:19:38] I plan on requesting my wiki later today, so I wanna make sure I can set it up when I get my admin access to it [18:20:11] Cuz I remember that you have to get your account approved to your wiki after it gets created [18:21:47] not sure what you mean here, but we currently experience a bug where wiki requester doesn't get proper rights and a steward (global Miraheze admin) has to assign you manually [18:21:56] Yeah that [18:22:21] it might or might not happen, hopefully will be fixed soon [18:24:53] Rights will be assigned whenever @agentisai or @orduin have time to process steward requests [18:25:08] [1/2] Also is there a way for me to get a discord wiki companion bot to show when stuff gets updated? [18:25:09] [2/2] I know the NIWA has one [18:27:28] we have that here too [18:28:02] there must be a guide on this ... [18:29:39] I answered someone else same qeustion up here https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1193762676954902589 [18:30:12] [1/2] Sorry if this is a lot of questions [18:30:12] [2/2] I'm just very fascinated on what I can do with my wiki whenever I get it and how I can help one I admin [18:30:59] Don't worry, that is really one of the main purposes of this discord [18:31:55] The only stupid questions are the ones you don't ask. Please don't be afraid to ask. [18:32:20] Worst case, you'll get laughed about at a celebration drinks when I finally get round to the fact I owe most of SRE a drink [18:32:34] We'll still still answer [18:46:50] [1/3] Idk what to label my wiki in the request [18:46:50] [2/3] For category I would put writing, but then there will be like 2 games for sure [18:46:50] [3/3] And for purpose, I think world building would count since it's a mostly comic and animated project [18:55:56] I can change this stuff later on or no? [18:56:05] Still kinda indecisive [18:56:32] hey folks! making my first wiki on miraheze after moving from fandom due to the ads and stuff and I'm having a bit of trouble with infoboxes. What's the best place to share the issues I'm having? [18:56:55] [1/2] I know a bit about infoboxes [18:56:56] [2/2] What issues you having [18:57:31] just getting them to work, really [18:58:45] [1/2] I've added the portable infobox extenstion and the infobox builder works, but once I publish the page it only shows the code? [18:58:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193992205006798938/image.png?ex=65aebae4&is=659c45e4&hm=36c9c1aabbea52b7e8ea3387719bbb649864973ba228f3bc4bec0cd8987d755b& [19:00:30] it doesnt look like any of those besides the main title & image have any source tags on them [19:01:30] but also it shouldnt just show the code like that since the `` tag gets closed ,try linking the page so we can see? [19:04:33] I don't have perms to link the page itself, but I can share a screenshot of the source editor? [19:04:51] [1/2] you can change category in wiki's core settings later [19:04:51] [2/2] worldbuilding is usually applied to original projects [19:06:09] [1/2] you need to /auth w/ our discord bot to post links, although it occasionally takes a nap [19:06:10] [2/2] What's url of the wiki at least? [19:08:19] rwbyevermorrow[.]miraheze[.]org/wiki/Template:CharacterInfobox [19:08:24] sans square brackets [19:09:01] So if I wanna update the purpose later I can [19:09:53] huh the code looks fine to me [19:10:09] if it's a fan wiki for a game then you can pick gaming [19:10:25] It's a wiki for my web series [19:11:03] I'm specifically talking about the drop down for 'purpose of this wiki' [19:11:25] I see [19:13:08] [1/2] seems like I fixed it [19:13:09] [2/2] did you made it w/ infobox builder? [19:13:23] [1/2] I'm gonna say wold building then [19:13:24] [2/2] Idk since it's still in draft rn, but hopefully I can change it later once it is fully off the ground [19:14:48] Yeah, but I did fiddle around with some mediawiki and module pages when I was new to Miraheze so I may have screwed something up somewhere [19:14:56] what was the issue that needed fixing for future reference? [19:15:10] [1/2] Sent my request [19:15:11] [2/2] Hopefully it gets approved soon so I can start working on it [19:15:46] [1/2] it seems like an issue in extension itself, will ping its dev [19:15:47] [2/2] your initial poking around modules shouldn't affect it although I see you tried to change page model [19:16:16] Yeah I figured maybe it was the wrong model or something, but I guess not haha [19:16:52] [1/2] btw i think you should change the first 'title' to 'name' or something because the 'title' data source is used twice in the infobox ,unless this was your plan all along [19:16:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1193996762327830608/image.png?ex=65aebf23&is=659c4a23&hm=f776813b026f4ed62a40639730811ce8281fea28f09226dddc0423e03f462650& [19:17:33] final question, what browser are you using? [19:18:53] Anyone getting 50x's?? [19:18:56] ahhh good point, that was just an oversight on my part [19:19:02] I'm on chrome currently [19:19:03] <.labster, replying to rodejong> Yes [19:19:20] [1/2] The miraheze website no longer loads for my request page [19:19:21] [2/2] Site down or does it weirdly mean it was approved [19:19:31] A moment of silence for Legacy Donor role https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/786615849921675294/1193464296101924964 [19:19:35] <.labster> Things are going to continue to be bad until we move to the new hardware, sorry guys. [19:19:51] okay [19:22:03] @cosmicalpha [19:22:31] Looks like everything is doing what it does best again. [19:28:50] Oh come one. It comes and goes 😛 [19:29:09] 503 Tradition continues [19:29:14] yup [19:29:30] oh nice, a 502 [19:29:30] Was so happy I could edit again. Short lived happiness 😄 [19:30:01] Please donate so we can fix this 😆 [19:30:12] So nice when you're building a database 😄 [19:31:09] already send 15 euro maybe next month 😹 [19:31:27] Ah, there we are again. for 3 minutes or so 😄 [19:33:15] image are broken probably [19:33:54] I rarely encounter 50X, I mostly get random logouts <:moonch:794697217826095165> [19:40:12] database errors... [19:40:36] is even Miraheze in read mode only? [19:41:19] which db? [19:41:20] Hi, im having image loading issues, images dont seem to be loading atm [19:41:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1194002999035568208/image.png?ex=65aec4f2&is=659c4ff2&hm=dd1afea72af80a005882e1f93a17d64a4465e0c9b383669ec72e76db94356138& [19:41:40] seems like an issue across entire Miraheze mow [19:41:42] @sre explain [19:41:49] Alright thank you [19:42:19] [1/2] Man [19:42:19] [2/2] Thank goodness all my pages are saved as txt files on my laptop and notepad documents on my phone [19:42:20] backend? <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [19:42:34] I do this since Wikia days lol [19:42:37] The base isn't dataing rn [19:46:27] +1 I could never get through an edit without the editor timing out [19:46:54] i lost so much work to this when i tried previewing an edit earlier [19:48:51] if you click back button it might show all the text [19:49:25] at least it's a thing in firefox ... [19:50:38] you can refresh the page and it saves as normal [19:50:51] the key is to never leave the page when that happens, just kep refreshing [19:51:19] <.labster> Usually this works. The browser might say you would sent another POST request, you definitely want to say yes. [19:52:46] are images broke or its my side? [19:53:16] images are intermittently not working [19:53:41] ah ok thx [19:54:24] <.labster> Everything is intermittently not working [19:57:59] imgs back seemingly [19:58:44] mine is not yet [19:59:19] swift is coming in and out [19:59:55] i thought swift supposed to save us from falling out files 😔 [19:59:56] I think the old servers have heard we are ready to bin them [20:00:04] lol [20:00:08] And stuck a finger up at us [20:00:29] It was supposed to save us from going completely down every time it went down so it sort of does works [20:00:33] we're not down entirely lol [20:00:49] yeah [20:00:56] <.labster> We're not dead yet, it's just a flesh wound [20:02:14] <.labster> Maybe I'll go edit over on WikiTide. Everything seems so fast over there. [20:02:49] https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/849425872629006407/1096852087704395856/20230115_122759.gif [20:02:50] No [20:04:26] you mustn't speak of the schism [20:10:58] Miraheze started in 2015? [20:12:29] yep [20:16:12] ye [20:16:49] are files loading very slowly for anyone else? [20:16:56] /not loading at all [20:18:41] I really really want someone to fork Lemony Snicket Wiki away from Fandom so we can talk about the Schism of Lemony Snicket Wikis. [20:18:59] yes [20:22:45] [1/2] Seems everyone here is having the same issues, glad I checked [20:22:46] [2/2] Suppose I'll just do something else for now [20:26:51] my main page looks so goofy rn without images [20:27:34] [1/2] Things might be wonky for the next couple of weeks while we prepare for and carry out some infrastructure migration off the horribly slow servers. If right now is any indication at all the servers are gonna go out with a bang. We apologize for the inconvenience but we hope once we finish the migration everything should stabilize quite a lot and have a lot better performance. [20:27:34] [2/2] Any planned downtime will be announced in advance, but due to the horribly slow servers there might be some unplanned issues with the servers that don't like the stress of migration. [20:33:29] Like me on the couch [20:37:14] lmfao [20:43:22] lol [21:08:39] [1/2] So silly w/o the images [21:08:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1194024897136042084/image0.jpg?ex=65aed957&is=659c6457&hm=6f7a96c4ee639c63faf7a03c3f5aab35a165ead60b9dc862a63dc2b8727e13c9& [21:08:49] Hopefully this gets fixed soon for the whole site [21:08:51] ugh, now swift is being annoying too? [21:10:09] [1/2] BTW how do I update meta data for files [21:10:09] [2/2] I wanted to change some stuff with the images I didn't put when I uploaded [21:13:22] just refresh the page bro [21:15:06] i was sent from wikitide to apply for a wiki here, are there any differences? [21:15:55] [1/2] I did [21:15:55] [2/2] Twice [21:16:29] it's not a browser issue it's a swift issue [21:16:39] the static site isn't responding [21:16:39] try another time [21:16:42] i did [21:19:12] I just noticed some images just don't show up at all. [21:19:55] for me it's only loading half the files at a time [21:20:13] [1/2] seems like miraheze is just running slowly in general as well [21:20:13] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1194027805269299260/image.png?ex=65aedc0c&is=659c670c&hm=5b3138428f901e7b50253ce2f24509672776d7646a5bb76a9e23644e3ef22b85& [21:22:48] Images aren’t showing up for me on AllTheTropes at all. I think it’s because of the server migration, or maybe the servers are refusing to work knowing they’re about to be “let go”. [21:23:30] Also, my brand-new wiki isn’t even showing icons on mobile. [21:23:53] ah looks like its site wide, i was wondering if something was up with me HAHA (r.e. images) [21:23:53] Yes, images are failing to load intermittently [21:24:56] Certain buttons on mobile on my brand-new wiki seem invisible as well. I can’t even edit pages on mobile on my new wiki. [21:25:18] read above, Miraheze is having some issues as theyre moving infrastructure, images arent loading across all wikis, its temporary and will likely be fixed soon-ish [21:25:33] We're not moving infrastructure yet [21:25:37] which is the funny part [21:25:44] oh mb i misread this part [21:25:49] They’re unionizing [21:25:51] Ah fuck [21:25:53] it hasn't started but old servers decided to act up in advance [21:26:04] ohh the good old "wait no dont replace me!!!!!!!!" [21:26:10] Imagine if we didn’t chose option C [21:26:11] Old servers want to give us a hard time for threatening to nuke them [21:26:22] We're currently setting up our new servers still [21:26:23] El skill issue [21:26:25] They know they’re about to be let go. So they’re slacking off. [21:26:57] We’ll give them a severance package Yeesh [21:27:11] In the form of a trash compactor [21:27:40] [1/2] if you mean real meta data of the file, you do this on your computer and upload new version of the file, followed by deletion of old version [21:27:40] [2/2] if you mean just on-wiki info for a file, you just go to the `File:...` page and click Edit [21:28:58] Y'all need to remember it's Monday, as well, and Swift has certainly noticed that. [21:29:54] Right [21:29:56] Darn [21:30:12] Are they cloud Or datacenters [21:30:42] idk [21:30:45] The servers heard about the redundancy plans and went on strike. [21:30:58] Gotta break the Union [21:31:23] ServerChoice SteVenaGe [21:31:30] Wait, what the fuck? Why would they go on strike for? [21:31:49] Cloud? [21:31:56] Gonna be replaced [21:32:09] That would be a datacenter [21:32:12] Why do we have so many swift servers [21:32:24] Would you want to be made redundant [21:32:34] No. [21:32:36] Also it's sarcastic [21:32:38] Ah, got it. What’s the address I have some old ground coffee that should be enough to get them through the mondays [21:32:54] The servers aren't literally going on strike [21:33:01] Google it [21:33:01] Just cover in caffeine [21:33:07] Sorry for taking it seriously then. [21:33:48] https://maps.google.com/maps/place//data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x487630318f5d1ed1:0xf8bbbb355b7df162?entry=s&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwimuIuU386DAxXclYkEHSdpApYQ4kB6BAgPEAA&hl=pt-br [21:34:08] Right sun [21:34:19] Who’s paying for international shipping [21:34:44] Please don't actually ship them things, they've got enough going on. 🤣 [21:36:05] It'd probably be cheaper to get a train ticket to them [21:38:04] You wanna cure their case of the mondays or not? [21:38:20] Someone invented a flying train without telling me??? [21:38:43] I'm in the UK [21:39:01] The train ticket would be £38.70 on cheapest walk up fare [21:39:14] Ye I was thinking from my position in the US [21:41:15] while im here, what is the preferred method for translating wikis? we have volunteers who want to translate specific pages, what extension/module/etc do we use for that? [21:41:56] There’s a Translation extension [21:42:00] Idk the exact name [21:42:06] Search in ManageWiki [21:42:27] thank you!! [21:46:09] It's called Translate, I believe [21:47:01] thats the one, here if anyones wondering https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Translate [21:59:10] So I don't have to make a new wiki for different languages [22:07:10] Looks like it's back to normal. [22:25:10] "Apologies for the delay in response. Due to a recently concluded merger agreement, WikiTide is no longer accepting new wikis at this time and is in the process of merging with and upgrading the infrastructure of Miraheze, another venerable wiki host. Requests for new wiki creation should be directed to /Special:RequestWiki" [22:25:11] pog [22:25:52] https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/849425872629006407/1096852087704395856/20230115_122759.gif [23:25:59] Do you live down south? [23:48:31] images? [23:48:37] nvm