[00:00:01] hello. world [00:00:01] hello. world [00:00:15] it seems as if there are two Miraheze relays [00:00:15] it seems as if there are two Miraheze relays [00:00:20] The bots were moved to the new infrastructure, but haven’t been shut down on the old server [00:00:41] hello mr MirahezeRelay_ [00:00:56] gone 😢 [00:01:12] …and right as I said that it disconnected [00:01:36] rip [00:01:38] gone too soon [00:10:38] [1/2] I have one more question for today: Is there a way to change the font color on a table by table basis? I'm creating a template and I'd like it to have white text instead of black, but I don't want to make the ENTIRE wiki's text white [00:10:39] [2/2] Writing a "color:" line into the template code isn't working for me and I'm wondering if there's some simple solution I'm missing like with the border radius issue [00:12:53] `` ? [00:13:02] You are probably writing the color part in wrong, as you should indeed be able to put inline styling into the table [00:15:59] if doing a wikitable then it'd be more like `{| class="wikitable" style="color:white"` [00:24:13] It doesn't seem that those are working either, or I'm not writing them in correctly [00:24:51] I would not be surprised. I'm a real novice when it comes to coding [00:25:03] nah css is just a bitch [00:25:04] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1194436710709350531/image.png?ex=65b058df&is=659de3df&hm=e60fc22a721fc4b82abe75e3c5542b96131f65d7e63f0fbabebff9f246841602& [00:25:15] Currently this is what the style code looks like [00:25:55] oh pfffffft [00:25:57] hey SRE its that time of day again! [00:25:58] It should work; I don't see anything wrong [00:26:01] 502s! [00:26:20] are you doing this in the css page or inline on a page's code? [00:27:02] Anyone getting em or just me? [00:27:03] Latter. I want this specific template to have white text and not all of the wiki's text [00:27:12] Latter. I want this specific template to have white text and not all of the wiki's text [00:27:13] hmm not spotting anything particularly wrong on its own, maybe try removeing all except for one, of them as a test, to be sure nothing messing up like that. Also is it a public wiki?, If so, maybe a link to the page, so we can take a look at it directly [00:27:30] It's a private wiki so I can't do that unfortunately [00:27:35] I will try the removing thing though [00:27:36] we back [00:28:23] ^ then the code should be right as long as youre closing tags correctly [00:28:59] yeah could be you are doing something wrong with the rest of the table syntax as well, that makes it mess up [00:31:42] That makes sense [00:31:49] [1/2] example (added blue to show it should work)(the other custom styling is applied in common css thats why theres no code here) [00:31:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1194438410291650680/image.png?ex=65b05a74&is=659de574&hm=21a429e404980e4ffa5efa90c074f3f9507ee93ae97b54779395b5b423c12a84& [00:35:00] ...I think I found the problem, and if it's what I think it is I'm gonna scream [00:35:54] Yeah ok I found it [00:36:52] [1/2] Once again, as it turns out, it was the Pivot skin once again not cooperating as the moment I switched away from it it worked [00:36:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1194439683212578927/image.png?ex=65b05ba4&is=659de6a4&hm=7f52092a2ff7832b47633deda348d539b9b29a12ccf56f84c2f38c8e1b67109f& [00:37:05] So what I've learned today is to not use Pivot, apparently. [00:40:02] Well thank you all for the help regardless, I appreciate it [00:44:35] <:jerma:1117269510836191292> its cool to help and learn [00:44:54] [1/2] The good news at least is that the skin is maintained, so if you'd like to stick with Pivot and want them to make fixes, they have a link to report issues/feature requests on their MW.org listing: [00:44:54] [2/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:Pivot [00:45:21] Cool cool, I'll send another report then [00:45:34] https://tenor.com/view/true-gif-21006811 [00:47:08] [1/2] Ok I lied one more question: I changed the skin to Nimbus to see if that would work instead and now I'm getting this when I try to go back to the manage wiki section or edit anything [00:47:08] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1194442266010460190/image.png?ex=65b05e0b&is=659de90b&hm=6a3db27845eaaa552257fdeaf5632d6f6478889a1e69e83b6b5fda6e44474331& [00:47:33] Are the servers having issues or did I just royally fuck something up [00:48:40] Apparently it's the servers, but I'm not having any issues [00:48:40] MediaWiki internal error. [00:48:59] send the text in the original exception to phabricator [00:49:16] everything after the colon or something [00:50:29] [1/2] Could have a couple different root causes, sometimes due to weird parameter conflicts w/ skins, sometimes the servers just plain acting up. [00:50:29] [2/2] Bukkit's route is one way to go if @Site Reliability Engineers are not available to assist, you can also try adding `?safemode=1` or `&safemode=1` to your URL and see if this makes a difference. [00:50:50] It's probably an extension bug, if anything [00:51:10] so not so much a server issue or a you issue but a code issue [00:51:35] @littlemissghostess , are you at least able to switch away from nimbus under your personal preferences? [00:51:38] what's safemode do [00:51:47] turns off CSS/JS [00:52:23] Nope, that gets me to the error too [00:52:27] ^ This. Not likely to solve things, but can sometimes work in a pinch if there's a weird conflict [00:52:52] i wish i knew that before lol [00:53:12] [1/2] More examples of how to use it: [00:53:12] [2/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Safemode [00:53:50] was tinkering around with css and stuff and kept on deleting my personal css page until i did it to where i likee it [00:56:08] Darn. In that case please definitely file a ticket at https://phabricator.miraheze.org including context on what you were doing prior to the error to assist on debugging. Unfortunately our SRE team is pretty heads-down with the migration effort so that's probably best best. [00:56:19] Got'cha. Thank you [00:56:46] [1/2] I did try this too just to be sure [00:56:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1194444686937575564/image.png?ex=65b0604d&is=659deb4d&hm=4a94e8af2b7af40372009c15b40ccd9fe2df8fffeac4b13f7c7ecb54074f2027& [00:57:44] Trying to think through if there's any way to set your default skin through URL parameters or API to work around this now... [00:58:59] Ha! Try appending ?useskin=vector on your preferences URL [01:00:01] AYYYYYY that worked! [01:00:07] So try something like https://yourwiki.miraheze.org/Special:Preferences?useskin=vector, then go to appearance and change your default back [01:01:08] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1194445788022059068/image.png?ex=65b06153&is=659dec53&hm=fc51a050a85c1e14a4bc6b258658372bfd8fe1c2fe1f793b713da1bd5ea35271& [01:01:12] And we're back in business [01:01:54] Thank you so much! That was admittedly very demoralizing, but I'm glad I know it's not irreversible if it happens again [01:03:17] https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-26317296 [01:03:18] I'm also thrilled to know that's a thing that can be done. [01:11:25] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/989160 [01:15:34] Nice, thanks Paladox! [02:44:11] @orduin or @zppix - RfPs are able to close if someone has a quick sec, they're all pretty cut and dry [02:44:19] No rush [02:47:58] https://trollpasta.com/wiki/Special:UnusedFiles hasn't updated in 3 days even though it updates daily [02:48:07] same with other special pages [03:03:47] 2/4 RFS could be closed [03:04:03] the others don’t have enough votes to pass yet [03:59:54] [1/2] hello, i'm the "owner" (for lack of knowledge on a better term for that) of https://peppered.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page and it's been locked due to no edits. a "bureaucrat" is just someone who is an admin on the wiki, correct? like now that i've unchecked "closed" it should be available for editing again yeah? does this take a while to go through? i'm just worried t [03:59:54] [2/2] his will actually get deleted, do i need to put in a reopen request to keep that from happening? the only reason i haven't done anything with it yet is because the game this wiki is for hasn't been released yet, it's (hopefully) going to release this year. [04:19:08] if you unticked the box for closed and clicked submit, then you should be all set [04:26:03] MacFan4000: not sure regarding RfSs, I mean local RfPs [04:26:12] haven’t taken a look at the RfSs yet [04:46:46] A minor edit (even if adding a space to a page) is also recommended to avoid a retrigger [04:50:01] okay, thank you both. i had been doing well on adding an edit here or there, but lost track of time this time around. ;_; hopefully i can stay on top of it from here on out lol [04:51:05] for some reason it's still saying it's locked, but, i'm going to give it a few days before i really start freaking out lol [04:52:20] Did you actually click the "Save" button after removing the closed checkmark on the managewiki page? [05:11:30] The sitenotice that says it's closed gets cached. You may need to purge the cache to get it to go away. [05:38:34] i did click save ye, i went back to make sure it's not still checked. i will try purging cache [05:39:59] oops nevermind, looks like it did clear on its own lol [05:40:17] thanks to all of you for the suggestions :D [05:51:07] [1/6] If I wanted to change the font for page titles in a certain namespace, would I do this? [05:51:08] [2/6] ```css [05:51:08] [3/6] h1.ns-3002 { / 3002 is my target namespace ID / [05:51:08] [4/6] font-family: "Consolas"; [05:51:09] [5/6] } [05:51:09] [6/6] ``` [05:51:31] it doesn't work when I edit with inspect element, but that might just be because it's a MediaWiki-specific thing [05:52:05] (works without the `.ns-3002`) [05:54:29] [1/2] not sure why i'm getting this though [05:54:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1194519611845136424/image.png?ex=65b0a614&is=659e3114&hm=0d33d188448c58175d75bd570202681a7555781fd7b61c25309635db7326e611& [07:16:23] `.ns-3003` should probably be attached to `body` there, but it's morning so not 100% sure without testing haha. Generally it should work in i spector, the namespace class is alsready inserted by MW so it doesn't matter it's a MW thing <:pupCoffeeMH:766487840694599711> [07:55:26] strange then… [07:56:00] would it be `body.ns-3002 h1` thrn or soemthing? [07:56:11] to make sure only the header is affected [09:37:59] Yeah. If you have trouble getting the code to work in inspector, feel free to ping me again with the link to your wiki or create a support thread [10:32:24] [1/3] When it gets updated, refresh your browser, like `CTRL` + `F5` if you are in windows. [10:32:25] [2/3] For more ways to clean your cache: [10:32:25] [3/3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bypass_your_cache [10:34:18] If you try refresh cache, like `CTRL` + `F5` you don't have to wait days for the caché [14:43:20] [1/2] looks like that did work, thank you <:josukethumb:658089353637265418> [14:43:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1194652698339971214/image.png?ex=65b12206&is=659ead06&hm=718316873ee05c449c78cceb4dbff8ef8847fe7fdb65974c5af92275aaa28994& [14:44:54] looks like `body` isn't even necessary [14:45:01] `.ns-3002 h1 { }` [15:44:40] Heyyo, where would I go to ask questions about XML imports? [15:44:58] I decided to migrate my wiki from Fandom to Miraheze. [15:45:41] Yo we boosted again [15:52:49] idk but if you ask them here someone often sees it and answers it, though maybe 'support' would be helpful too? [15:53:43] also is anyone else having this problem: When I try to search something on my wiki, it just keeps me on my main page. This just started so I was wondering if it was a MH wide problem or if I just clicked the wrong thing or smth [15:55:20] For context, I submitted an XML file to import the articles from my wiki last night. I just have no idea how long the process would take. [15:57:22] a sysadmin will get too it as soon as they can [15:57:43] you mean the RequestImport on Meta Wiki, right? [15:58:03] Yes, I do [15:58:11] and have you requested/created wiki beforehand? [15:58:24] I have, the destination is set up already [15:59:06] It's going from sketchian-multiverse.fandom.com to sketchianmultiverse.miraheze.org [15:59:53] The destination has remained untampered for the time being. [16:00:48] Don't worry, I'm in no rush. In fact, I'm looking forward to giving the wiki a much-needed rework. [16:06:22] [1/2] just a heads up, everyone who work on Miraheze are volunteers, there's no staff and nobody gets paid, so they get to perform tasks whenever they can, this includes time zones [16:06:22] [2/2] but now we are having a good amount of people so things shouldn't take long time [16:07:35] Thanks for letting me know, man. I appreciate the time you guys are taking to make Miraheze worth moving to. [16:18:42] anyone knows which page has CSP whitelist? I remember stumbling on it once, can't find it on Meta now [16:19:49] https://github.com/miraheze/puppet/blob/master/modules/varnish/data/csp.yaml [16:20:02] oh hi Orange_Star [16:20:48] hi [16:20:49] oh well, guess Dailymotion isn't allowed [16:27:30] hello [16:49:43] [1/2] Regarding the `SyntaxHighlight` extensions (the `` tag), can I request that it be updated on Miraheze? [16:49:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1194684509464043590/Screenshot_2024-01-10-17-36-17-877_org.png?ex=65b13fa7&is=659ecaa7&hm=ce031fe668012e31a21c359fb652e46ee3f80235068fbf1700f1815625d667ea& [16:50:04] the extension works, but it seems to be outdated since `wikitext` isn't supported on Miraheze [16:50:22] The alternatives for older versions aren't great either [16:57:37] some user started translating new FAQ to Russian using Google Translate [16:58:02] I'm honestly not in the mood for translation rn but will try to fix [16:59:24] let me guess [16:59:27] Commentian Empire [16:59:30] yes [17:00:12] will warn [17:00:59] G Translate banned? [17:01:44] if you don't have a professional grasp of the language, yes [17:01:54] if you use it as an aid but you know the language then it's fine [17:02:08] Hm, does it count if you know the language but not the words? [17:02:09] Ah ok [17:03:06] I tried to check myself in google and yup, this user def used it w/o changes [17:03:11] (I was born in a Portuguese country but I’ve lived in US for most of my life and never had much of an education in Portuguese so I’m horrible at reading and writing it, but I can speak it) [17:03:53] if you write it in a way that's free from grammatical issues then I'd say its fine [17:04:10] (who manages this kind of stuff?) [17:04:47] assuming you're talking about updating extensions, a team called SRE [17:04:53] All our extensions were updated around 4 days ago [17:05:04] so you should have the latest SyntaxHighlight version [17:05:04] apparently that one wasn’t [17:05:16] according to Special:Version [17:05:31] Aight, probably wouldn’t do much translating anyways, I have the intuitive understanding but don’t really know the complicated Grammer rules [17:05:33] > 2.0 (4564275) 01:20, December 28, 2023 [17:06:04] 2.15 is the update i’m aiming for [17:06:15] [17:06:24] we use the REL1_40 branch [17:06:35] so what you're actually aiming for is MediaWiki 1.41 [17:06:57] update should come soon™️ [17:06:58] Are we planning on updating soon? [17:07:01] soon™️ [17:07:11] Just need to break the Union first [17:07:14] And move the servers [17:07:20] WikiTide already upgraded its biggest wikis, just need to upgrade the rest [17:07:24] but nothing has broken so far [17:07:48] oh ok [17:07:52] hype then [17:08:21] Different wikis use different versions? [17:09:21] we currently have https://phabricator.miraheze.org/T11309 (tracking ticket [17:09:22] WikiTide has multiversion yes [17:09:35] we are n the extension testing phase [17:09:50] WikiTide has done some testing [17:10:03] though some of our testing hasn't been logged yet [17:10:43] Miraheze also now has multiversion but 1.41 hasn't been installed yet on any server because of space [17:10:56] also because it'll probably take a decade for the files to copy from mwtask141 [17:11:01] Yes [17:11:05] https://tenor.com/view/anime-girl-panicking-scared-screaming-gif-18964383 [17:11:10] It’s so fucking long… [17:11:34] you can help us test extensions [17:11:36] The link of names exceeds discord non nitro characters limit by 2000… [17:11:37] @agentisai you tested the parser migration tool too? [17:11:53] we did but only on our test server [17:12:01] Was gonna say though- [17:12:01] nothing major broke [17:12:03]