[00:25:47] huh? [00:53:13] the page is not there. [00:53:35] https://fanon.polandballwiki.com/wiki/Bedrockiumball [00:58:36] Whole wiki seems to be down for me [00:58:53] Cannot Access database [00:59:10] unknown database polcomwiki [00:59:13] :ThinkerMH: [00:59:21] is db131 online? [01:00:21] Seems to be on grafana [01:01:17] @agentisai what do you make of this? Or is it working for you [01:05:29] Yeah, `polcomwiki` was deleted and that brought down a lot of ball wikis [01:05:37] Mentions of it have to be removed in ManageWiki settings [01:05:47] that is not ballin [01:05:52] What's that? [01:06:17] where would they even be referenced? [01:08:07] It was a 'commons' wiki that's as linked to a bunch of ball wikis and served as the central image repo [01:08:39] It would've been mentioned in a setting in Special:ManageWiki/settings -> Media -> Shared Repository or something like that [01:11:16] huh. More ya know [01:26:41] I removed everything and added a warning for the users to not edit it at the moment. I am keeping the text in a notepad. [01:30:24] @agentisai have a min [01:56:15] Images are back [01:56:23] thank you!! [01:57:20] # WOOOOOOOOO [01:57:24] W Paladox [01:57:46] Yay, nice job! [02:18:37] for the record the cause of the outage was another SSD failure, but should all be fixed now [02:44:59] yay images! [04:34:54] Thank you!! [04:41:58] uuuh I don't like this feature w/ channels ... like I already muted what doesn't interest me, but then it hides what I read ... [06:33:22] anyone awake an up for a couple of newbie questions? [07:27:57] I'm off for today, but it looks like you've already got the right idea and are making use of the Support forum -- our volunteers are spread all over the world, so getting help asynchronously is a great option esp. if you have several or more complicated questions. šŸ™‚ [08:24:59] [1/2] Am I limited as a new user or something to that effect? Other than pasting text into a frame to create a basic text page, I keep geting errors. Error on links, cannot upload an image for my headshot. Im sorry if I sound frustrated...I've just been trying for hours thinking I must be doing something wrong. But it seems I am missing perhaps an understanding of my limitations at [08:25:00] [2/2] this time. [08:26:43] please check the support thread you have created, we tried to reply [08:27:25] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1196703462973513819 [10:13:42] I have asked a question in your thread. Please respond there. [11:13:50] any wikis here that have buttons that redirect to certain pages? i wanna learn from them [11:20:16] search game wikis, usually have lots of buttons [11:31:02] buttons are usually span or div elements w/ some CSS, complicity can range [11:31:56] [1/2] like [11:31:56] [2/2] `'''Click here!'''/span` [12:30:22] [1/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1194753759411183767 Still not working for me. [12:30:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1196793570150060133/image.png?ex=65b8ebde&is=65a676de&hm=8065e39a3ce1e6c4de4abfeba7b68373f79792d5d8b4e2ad24fbce458d9ec966& [12:30:44] Has been an issue for a while now [13:01:21] [1/2] So, I was editing my wiki, but when I went to preview, it threw up an error page "Sorry, this site is experiencing technical difficulties" and the reason it gives for the error is not being able to connect to database db142. [13:01:21] [2/2] Anyone else experiencing this? [13:01:57] Specifically, it said that the connection had been refused. [13:06:13] Try again then [13:06:33] I have been, it's still the same page. [13:06:59] @Site Reliability Engineers looks like db142 is down [13:07:38] it's back up [13:08:10] Cool [13:08:22] Yep. Just tried it again and it loaded. Y'all are quick! [13:09:21] Nah just got experience breaking server unions [14:52:06] hello, how do i contact? i've got an issue with my wiki [15:00:54] what kind of issue? [15:01:11] this is like main support channel, we might help if we can [15:01:57] if it's something beyond our capabilities then we'll ping some higher up volunteers or direct to contact stewards privately [15:15:52] so basically im not sure if this is a local issue [15:15:53] but [15:16:11] for me and my friend, an image broke on our wiki, literally only that image, we dont know how [15:16:14] all the other images are working [15:16:25] https://tbf.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Tower_battlefield.png this one stopped displaying for no reason [15:16:41] when i open it's static.miraheze link, it displays This server could not verify that you are authorized to access the document you requested. [15:20:23] also while we're at it could i have a tutorial on how to change the heading font šŸ™šŸ™i hate it [15:42:37] re: image, that's something for SRE (sysadmins) to check [15:45:10] [1/3] re: changing font - CSS [15:45:10] [2/3] you first need to find the font you like, I advice to use something free from Google Fonts, which can be easily imported to wiki's CSS w/o messing around w/ font files, it must be done on `MediaWiki:Common.css` page [15:45:10] [3/3] then you need to modify styling of the wiki, the code and implementation might depend on skin your wiki is using [15:50:05] oh ok tysm, i dont know how the code would look like tho [15:50:10] im using the default skin [15:51:53] i mean [15:51:55] implementation [16:04:48] [1/7] In MediaWiki:Common.css on your wiki it would be this to add, if its part of the already installed fonts on MediaWiki. If it's one you install yourself, I'm not 100% if there are extra steps involved. [16:04:48] [2/7] .firstHeading, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 { [16:04:49] [3/7] font-family: ; [16:04:49] [4/7] } [16:04:49] [5/7] h3, h4, h5, h6 { [16:04:50] [6/7] font-family: ; [16:04:50] [7/7] } [16:05:06] [1/3] somehting like this [16:05:06] [2/3] `h1, h2, h3, h4, h5 { font-family: `name of the font` !important; }` [16:05:07] [3/3] but you need to add the font to ther wiki first [16:05:11] i did add it [16:05:20] im using vector 2022 the font i added is open sans [16:05:22] from google [16:05:41] then use the code Plat listed [16:05:46] ok, tysm [16:05:48] by the way [16:06:02] the image cant even delete itself, its bugged, is there any way it could be deleted by some admin? [16:06:08] i cant reupload it, nor can i delete it [16:06:51] [1/2] is there a way to make this untoggleable so the page is always wide? [16:06:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1196848046156304494/image.png?ex=65b91e9a&is=65a6a99a&hm=035d73ba121589439a73c56819d6c7ef87be2e76e69e9c6f474c4f9a8a9c6c97& [16:07:05] what skin that [16:07:05] ? [16:07:23] skin the wiki uses? [16:08:23] [1/2] what shall we do w/ these again? rhinos, anyone? [16:08:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1196848430849474651/2024-01-16_19_07_40.png?ex=65b91ef6&is=65a6a9f6&hm=7726804eddd556aee04e03c64055a06dc10d38d0b8ff124328793a1bd0860306& [16:08:29] yes [16:08:46] THE DEFAULT ONE i GUESS? [16:09:36] could you reupload it or delete it or something? cant really do anything with it now, its the game logo and cant even reupload/delete it [16:11:38] [1/3] we are having issues w/ file server due to old hardware, and currently preparing to migrate the system to new one [16:11:38] [2/3] further commentary or actions regarding this file can be done only by Miraheze, which seem to be offline rn [16:11:39] [3/3] in the meantime I suggest to upload a new file w/ different name [16:11:53] oh ok, tysm [16:11:58] *Miraheze tech team [16:12:27] No, we must preform the holy wiki ritual to awaken sentience in Miraheze herself [16:12:48] hiding button won't help as by default for every new visitor the width is small, you'll have fix the width in skin's CSS [16:13:16] so can we just make that the default width then? [16:13:40] yes, but I'm not sure how atm, I haven't worked w/ Vector 2022 that much [16:13:48] so uh sorry to annoy again but i get this when i reupload the image (i changed both the file name on my pc and the file name on miraheze) An unknown error occurred in storage backend "miraheze-swift"., is that also a hardware issue or? [16:14:05] most likely [16:14:08] sigh [16:14:29] shall we ping? [16:14:36] no point [16:14:47] They already know about the issue [16:15:32] nah I got this [16:15:42] I have some people who know CSS in my project [16:15:57] I was refering to purpyfind's file problem [16:16:04] šŸ’€ [16:16:05] sorry [16:16:36] No worries [16:18:21] regarding the font change, i did this @import url('https://fonts.googleapis.com/css2?family=ital,wght@0,200;0,300;0,400;0,600;0,700;0,900;1,200;1,300;1,400;1,600;1,700;1,900 &display=swap'); [16:18:22] .firstHeading, h1, h2, h3, h4, h5, h6 { [16:18:22] Ā  Ā  font-family: 'Open Sans'; [16:18:23] } [16:18:23] , would it be correct? i didnt put Open Sans in font-family in <> brackets cuz it gave me an error but idk if thats my problem or not [16:18:37] sorry im new to miraheze so i dont know alot [16:18:59] this is just general web coding stuff, no worries [16:20:38] did you marked all weigths options? [16:20:43] on google [16:21:18] hold on [16:21:30] `@import url('https://fonts.googleapis.com/css2?family=Open+Sans:ital,wght@0,300..800;1,300..800&display=swap')` [16:21:45] this should be enough, at least that what google gave me rn [16:22:00] I'm not sure you need the ' [16:22:16] i did it because it errored with <> [16:22:24] btw thanks groom [16:22:42] that's something new lol [16:22:49] The was just to illustrate what you needed to edit [16:23:02] OH [16:23:06] damn ok [16:23:08] thanks [16:23:10] didnt know mb [16:23:19] It's o [16:24:28] the 2fa banner now takes half of channels sidebar, and I can't just hide it lol [16:24:37] Lol [16:24:43] Uh [16:24:44] Sorry? [16:28:16] i hate adding phone number to accounts [16:28:40] I forgot you need phone for 2FA [16:29:08] Does the Auth code app alone not work? [16:29:40] so another problem (sorry lmao), it simply doesnt put the font on the heading. i tried doing ctrl+shift+r multiple times but it doesnt work, its the same code that i provided except with groom's import line [16:30:14] I'll be ok w/ Leg thank you lol [16:34:02] [1/4] .firstHeading { [16:34:02] [2/4] font-family: !important; [16:34:02] [3/4] } [16:34:02] [4/4] try doing that seperate instead. [16:35:13] It might take a little bit of time to show, but can show up quicker on an Incognito tab [16:36:10] oh ok sure [16:36:44] warning: use of !important appears, its nothing too serious right? [16:36:53] Thats fine [16:37:01] ok [16:37:04] holy shucks it finally worked [16:37:06] tysm dude [16:37:22] btw one last question, how would i change the width of the font? like the version, cuz the regular open sans is a lil bit too skinny [16:38:38] AND ONE MORE LAST QAUESTION I PROMISE, can i have the same tutorial to make regular text that same font, like just the regular text please i'd be grateful [16:41:11] [1/8] Just remember with CSS you can always undo whatever you've done, it'll just take some time for it to show. [16:41:11] [2/8] font-weight:bold; [16:41:12] [3/8] font-size:20px; [16:41:12] [4/8] within the parameter. [16:41:12] [5/8] For your second question, I believe it should be something like: [16:41:12] [6/8] #bodyContent { [16:41:13] [7/8] font-family: ; [16:41:13] [8/8] } [16:41:44] As well as any other actions you want to throw in there, should it not appear you can try adding !important again [16:52:25] [1/2] File uploads are turned off rn because of the issue with the server. [16:52:25] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407504500136607745/1196518162846453891 [16:53:33] the swift issue was fixed yesterday, uploads should be working fne [16:57:02] ok plat tysm, you and groom are the best people ever :D [16:57:19] btw thanks jph2, i figured it out (I dont know how to reply) [17:01:13] setting 2fa loged me out of mobile app :moonch: [17:05:34] Miraheze has a mobile app now? [17:05:58] discord I meant [17:06:55] On the way [17:34:31] Hello. I'm Rob, and new here. I'm a recent grad school student and wanting to create a wiki page to represent my artwork. Hope I can learn a bit from you all. It seems to not be as straight forward as I thought it would be. [17:38:09] people replied to your previous messages, please check your support thread [18:29:16] Ey y'all, how do you change the link/domain name? [18:29:47] Cuz I realized that I named my wiki (Series)Wiki which means that it probably won't show up if it's searched [18:30:28] I think you need to make a task on [[Phabricator]] [18:30:28] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Phabricator [18:30:28] [18:30:54] You can change your wiki's sitename via Special:ManageWiki; as for subdomains, you need to create a Phabricator task as pixlDeV stated [18:41:03] Ah ok! [19:07:59] [1/2] Ok so like, I can change the site name but if I wanna change the link I have to make a task on Phabirciator? [19:07:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1196893626639319050/Screenshot_20240116-130649.png?ex=65b9490d&is=65a6d40d&hm=c4a28d16726291c48261019e5e99435376af47985594dc08dfc1ac3c52ab4b87& [19:08:03] Just wanting to confirm [19:08:18] Yes [19:08:22] Ah ok! [19:08:29] I'll do that as soon as I can [19:08:53] I'm trying to fix up stuff on it before I finish it up by uploading images [19:22:59] The sidebar at meta needs changing [19:23:19] I think there was smt kn CN or AN bout it [19:23:35] It says Community noticeboard, but now it is called Community Portal [19:24:17] but for Stewards' Noticeboard -> Steward requests [19:24:22] This is a different thing [19:50:41] Fixed, we should also consider retiring the similarly-named Meta Community portal. [19:50:53] heh [19:50:55] It's had vanishingly-little use over the years [19:51:10] I fought to restore it in 2023 \:P [19:51:23] during that time, there were a lot of pan-Meta discussions happening all over the place [19:54:20] I got the text for Bedrockiumball on the notepad on my computer. so that page can be saved. [19:55:15] So we have Community Portal, on Meta, and Meta Community Portal, on Meta? [19:58:08] Yep [19:58:19] For the reasons Agent mentioned above [21:15:36] how large can a file be before importing it to a wiki stops working? [21:17:04] Up to ~2 MB with Special:Import; RequestImportDump has a hard limit of 500MB before a Phabricator task has to be made [21:18:05] cause I'm trying to implement template pages which have a file size of like 759 kb to 825 kb and I keep getting a 504 timeout error [21:19:04] hm [21:19:17] it might just be a me issue tho [21:37:11] Known issue for Special:Import, though the new infrastructure will make a big difference in this once we move over. [21:38:11] [1/3] One thing you might see is that you get incrementally more out of the file each time before timeout. [21:38:11] [2/3] So, if you're really diligent, you might be able to forcibly upload it a little bit at a time, over and over again. [21:38:12] [3/3] The much easier option is just requesting an import dump though. šŸ˜„ [21:39:04] is there a particular resource/place/person to go to for takedown requests [21:44:19] [1/2] Filing a Wiki Report on the Steward Requests board is the first stop for most of this: [21:44:19] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests#Wiki_reports [21:45:04] Alternatively, if you'd prefer to make that privately, you can also reach out to one of the stewards via DM or file an email to stewards@miraheze.org [21:45:27] excellent thank you [21:45:42] This route covers Content Policy, terms of use, and copyright violations, though for urgent Trust and Safety matters, please use the TS portal [21:46:04] it's a big ol copyvio so this works out [21:46:10] Sounds good [21:47:39] people stealing stuff is bad and uncool :ok: [22:15:47] how does an import dump work [22:20:11] File a request at https://meta.wikitide.org/wiki/Special:RequestImportDump and attach your XML file to the request, once a SRE volunteer (or steward with shell access, not me šŸ™‚ is available, they run a special script to do a direct import on the servers. [22:25:15] Special:Import is fundamentally fairly limiting [22:27:42] why has special:import been so busted lately? @notaracham @rhinosf1? [22:28:09] It's not recent [22:28:21] well I mean for the past couple months or so [22:28:31] It's been like it for 6 years [22:28:40] Or however long Miraheze has been alive [22:28:41] it's worked really well for me up until like a couple months or so [22:28:44] Is it 8? [22:28:53] 8 and change [22:29:29] Special:Import runs during the request and has to do a lot during that request. It's simply never going to be able to do anything large running in the foreground. [22:30:09] They are many factors that can impact how useless it decides to be so it's quite hard to give a decent idea of the limit. Experience has led people to suggest possible limits. [22:31:00] Without diving too far into the technicals that would be SRE's domain, another big hang-up right now is that the service is running on hardware that is showing its age and has very poor read-write speeds for the storage disks. [22:31:24] Hardware doesn't help but it's fairly fundamentally a bad way of handling stuff anyway. [22:31:30] It's never going to be brilliant [22:32:01] Nope. Looking forward to some of the proposed improvements though. [22:33:13] The better solution is continuing to improve importDump and building on Owen's processes work for Wiki Creation to do similar for each stage there. [22:33:37] So we can handle it server side at a fairly fast pace for our users [22:34:02] 100%. Heck, if we can reach a point of one-click for non-technical but trusted volunteers, even better. [22:34:11] That's my 2 cents before I fall asleep for the night [22:35:10] I do not see why trusted technical volunteers couldn't be given some powers with proper technical controls in place and appropriate monitoring and audit capabilities [22:35:58] Maybe even non technical one day [22:36:10] so either way [22:36:17] if I wanted to import some templates I'd have to wait [22:36:24] either for an SRE or for the move [22:36:25] I'm always going to be nervous about giving humans more access and relying on technology to keep them in check [22:36:41] Yes, large imports will always need to be done server side [22:36:57] makes sense [22:37:03] Please use ImportDump like @notaracham linked or file a ticket on Phabricator [22:37:13] a bolt springs loose womp fucking womp [22:37:50] I'm not worried about the bolt coming loose, I'm worried about untrained operators panicking at not telling the right people quick enough or knowing how to fix it [22:38:07] It's generally fairly early to clean up after messes if people are honest about them quickly [22:38:34] Yeah, completely fair concern, I had envisioned something closer to what we did with the reset default permissions button for Stewards, folks who you'd generally trust not to panic or do something rash. [22:38:36] It's when people try to fix them by themselves, don't tell anyone and we discover a week later that I start to question why people exist [22:39:54] question why people exist [22:39:56] huh [22:46:12] reminds me of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Leeson [22:46:31] tried to recouperate loses with unauthorized trades [22:46:44] bankrupted the oldest bank in England [22:46:56] lets hope it wont come to that here! [22:51:19] @trigjegman you didn't need such a lengthy email and to cite half the Content Policy, a simple link would've worked šŸ˜† [22:51:28] anyway, now :Done: done [22:51:51] i like having `all` of the details [22:52:12] maybe its just the fandom closure requests paranoia rubbing off a bit too hard [22:52:56] Hey, though it was a lot to read, the detail is appreciated. [22:53:43] šŸ«” [22:53:50] better to be overly detailed than under-detailed [22:53:54] true [22:55:25] Yeah, "Delete plz" wouldn't have gotten you very far. šŸ™‚ [22:55:32] If it's straightforward, as long as it makes sense and isn't hostile, it's fine by our book [22:55:33] alrightio back to bop it tetris, lol [22:55:55] lengthy emails are boring and I just skim through most [22:56:25] Iā€™d rather know which wire is responsible for shutting down db131 than not having to read which button turns off the datacenters fridges [22:56:38] https://tenor.com/view/tetris-real-life-gif-27160757 [22:56:44] Enjoy zen-blockitude [22:56:54] i've been working with fandom people to shut stuff down recently and that necessitates a little more juice to make happen:lastnerve: guess it comes with the territory. Better cover my bases to show that its not a baseless claim [22:57:34] def [22:59:30] Yeah...I have had my fair share of experiences with Fandom too. [23:02:03] or try smaller imports, which obvs won't work if it's only one template, but I've never had a problem with single templates [23:31:43] [1/5] hi guys, this is a really weird question but how do i make a Messagebox... go sideways? [23:31:44] [2/5] [23:31:44] [3/5] the template is exactly how it was on FANDOM, though i had to import mbox and all its modules to get it to display. left is how its supposed to display and right is how it displays on miraheze. what am i missing? [23:31:44] [4/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1196960003014271067/image.png?ex=65b986df&is=65a711df&hm=d005d167ad17a51d304e6b477ce45ec7193f5638c61a8cc9449d3e2b2c843bd6& [23:31:45] [5/5] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1196960003374993418/image.png?ex=65b986df&is=65a711df&hm=098b2ca0f40120f4a8380556769207dbde5a59459d56c5a9936187dcea210776& [23:31:59] am i just supposed to style it? [23:34:20] looks like adding flex and styling to the .mbox class and its subclasses seem to work but i just want to be sure thats what im meant to be doing LOL [23:45:59] My only real experience with fandom was having my wiki get shut down since there's like 2 others of the same thing. But no one moderates them and are just ransacked with nonsense. [23:55:05] oooh oops, should've said that in offtopic