[00:05:41] <7101334, replying to pixldev> Indeed I do - I'd post a picture, but, you know 👽 [00:20:16] Huh [00:22:24] Maybe you authed with another account in the past? try and revoke it on that page and then redo it here [00:22:45] I think at this point, @WikiAuthBot is on its way out [00:22:48] count your days [00:22:51] you're getting replaced [00:23:05] It does feel like it could use a replacement [00:23:27] if you do can you please call the new one WikiAwakeBot then? 😄 [00:24:00] <7101334, replying to gummiel> I've only ever had a single Miraheze account [00:24:51] Yes, that would be the one used on the website, but maybe you authed with a different discord account in the past is what I am saying [00:24:52] <7101334> Revoked, clicked "Allow", got "Thanks" page, still nothing as far as I see [00:25:06] <7101334, replying to gummiel> Only ever had one Discord account either [00:36:36] This verifications update sucks [00:36:53] Thank you, very cool! [00:36:56] the old man [00:37:15] #verify exists, pl0x test it out [00:37:42] I don't get the verified role [00:38:11] do wiki bot have whois? [00:38:18] uh [00:39:26] <7101334, replying to agentisai> It worked up to the point where I get to the "Wiki Accounts" section. Then I click "Connect Account" under Miraheze and nothing happens 🕴️ [00:39:40] <7101334> [1/3] nvm this happened: [00:39:41] <7101334> [2/3] Connection failed! [00:39:41] <7101334> [3/3] Your wiki account could not be connected, please try again. [00:39:41] cough [00:39:56] .... [00:40:21] yeah I think my guy needs a nap.. [00:40:23] Yeah, time to go WikiNapBot [00:40:47] I'll miss the whois command [00:40:53] that always works and I walwyas use [00:41:02] <7101334> [1/3] Account successfully connected! [00:41:02] <7101334> [2/3] Your wiki account has been successfully connected with Wiki-Bot. [00:41:02] <7101334> [3/3] Hey trying again actually worked! [00:41:12] <7101334> but I still appear to be unverified here lol [00:41:37] Aracham can you just put this poor guy out of his misery and add the role manually [00:42:55] Hold on, still testing things [00:43:45] <.labster> This is why I’m not worried about AI taking over the world, bots can’t to basic things they could do yesterday [00:44:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1197703087440277595/jOlbnp4.webp?ex=65bc3aec&is=65a9c5ec&hm=aa314d2d422a80043f2b29e800eb6eea4646308ec033c82f0b44e277bbb26326& [00:44:53] got bigger problems [00:46:34] <.labster> On the other hand an LLM definitely get that one right. [00:46:36] the EVIL HOOMANS [00:47:15] Try clicking the link Wiki-Bot gave you [00:47:25] It might be because you're authenticating from the panel after it gives you an error [00:47:39] why does every single wiki bot have dementia [00:48:01] something something mediawiki is a mess [00:48:05] oh yea forgor #meetings exists [00:48:20] It's MediaWiki [00:48:52] guys lets all move to checks notes Microsoft SharePoint [00:49:18] Closed Source Proprietary software is underrated [00:49:42] Microsoft Windows > Linuxsoft Linux [00:50:14] GUIusersaresoft Linux [00:50:22] What the heck is going on anymore [00:50:24] real men use the command line [00:50:37] and wiki-gremlins like me [00:51:38] <.labster> BITS FOR THE BIT GOD! [00:51:52] Just use git and manage your wiki in plain text files [00:51:52] :p [00:51:54] exactly [00:52:01] even better, just write it down [00:52:13] I LOVE THE CLI I LOVE THE CLI [00:52:18] Gotta support the print industry [00:52:22] and place a noticeboard outside your house where you put up your writings [00:53:18] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgV6M1LyfNY&ab_channel=NoBoilerplate reminded me of [00:53:36] nooooooooooo guys its not a mailbox its a home owner noticeboard page!!1!1 [00:54:00] Project:HON [00:54:35] also you know when you find a song and listen to it way too much over and over? [00:55:44] help me please [00:55:59] chew gum and voila [00:56:16] no i dont wanna its too good [00:56:24] then suffer 😡 [00:56:34] @agentisai mind seeing DMs if you have a quick sec? [00:56:36] https://tenor.com/view/agony-gif-23084585 [00:56:42] thanos snap [00:57:38] [1/2] also just thr song name [00:57:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1197706400005111968/l9Bu9tX.png?ex=65bc3e02&is=65a9c902&hm=74afafef962f82cbf1a7ab89f7cad0610bfa8d2c0bc8dffdccd08a908c082c12& [00:58:09] aight lets move to #offtopic [00:58:21] banned for being too off topic [00:58:40] you started it [00:58:46] mods, demote him! [00:58:55] lol [00:58:59] Unless it's a song extolling His Majesty The Supreme Leader of Wikimedia, Jimbo I, by the Grace of the Plebs, Defender of the Wiki, then you can't post [00:59:13] I am above mods :trollgod: [00:59:25] Uhm, is there a reason I'm unable to view the entirety of the server? [00:59:35] you have to authenticate first [00:59:38] in #verify [00:59:48] Verification sucks ass though [01:00:05] [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Songs_about_Wikipedia/God_Save_Our_Jimbo](God Save Our Jimbo) [01:00:12] ga [01:00:12] oh [01:00:14] that exists? [01:00:20] Agent' [01:00:31] there are 6 songs with jimbo in the same [01:00:44] sent [01:00:45] We need to restore the monarchy [01:00:49] ???? [01:00:56] er, now we're really veering off [01:00:57] that's hilarious [01:01:03] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Songs_about_Wikipedia/Wikimedia,_Jimbo_named_you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Songs_about_Wikipedia/Jimbo_the_Great https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Songs_about_Wikipedia/Jimbo_Wales https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Songs_about_Wikipedia/Jimbo%27s_Hymn [01:01:07] Fr, it seems to think I simultaneously am authenticated and am not authenticated [01:01:10] yeah let's go to #offtopic [01:01:17] y [01:02:36] And I just tried the time-old "turn it off and then back on again" [01:02:47] Using #verify? [01:03:00] Using the site it took me too [01:03:15] [1/2] Thanks for bearing w/ us on the authentication front, all. Dealing with the twin beasts of getting off of the old hardware (which causes verification timeouts) and a very cranky bot that refuses to authenticate at once. [01:03:16] [2/2] #verify has some minor bugs to work out but we'll get there and can all say goodbye to napbot soon. [01:03:34] I think it's because Meta is too slow [01:03:52] i used the site and connected both my miraheze and discord account and is saying i can't be verified [01:04:13] No problem, I understand complete overhauls are a beast to do for anything [01:04:14] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1197708050635694151/Screenshot_20240118_190405_Discord.jpg?ex=65bc3f8b&is=65a9ca8b&hm=38b1d5b17102327b012e57a80ed6264134852ea24188fa72385ae11bca346b9c& [01:06:46] I'm starting to wonder if Nappy is really the issue here [01:07:02] I used it on another WM server a while ago and works fine [01:07:20] (less then a week) [01:08:34] <7101334, replying to agentisai> [1/4] I tried [01:08:35] <7101334, replying to agentisai> [2/4] six times [01:08:35] <7101334, replying to agentisai> [3/4] twice after revoking access [01:08:35] <7101334, replying to agentisai> [4/4] it never gave me an error, it said "Thanks!" every time [01:09:04] So, in the meantime, I just started a wiki on Miraheze, and I am absolutely struggling with the infoboxes. The information on both Fandom and the Miraheze page on them did not help. [01:09:05] <7101334> about to just give up, I came here for help with a problem, not to volunteer to troubleshoot a new one lol [01:09:38] Open a #support thread, also what parts not working [01:09:52] I can't get to the channel, verification issue. [01:10:03] I've made a change that may allow users to post links to a miraheze.org domain [01:10:04] h o l d u p [01:10:21] since when is support auth locked?????? [01:10:32] Miraheze Meeting tomorrow! [01:10:33] <7101334> [1/2] So I can't even get manually verified despite mods having the ability to do so? [01:10:34] <7101334> [2/2] Just going to leave the server and ask ChatGPT and hope for the best if that's the case [01:10:48] perms probably synced [01:10:48] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1197709690583400468/e8Go2NW.png?ex=65bc4112&is=65a9cc12&hm=fb2dd4d612495920b85f69636de3b54de0a644b63ddc042cd3980290461f5141& [01:10:49] (View channel in Portgues) [01:10:50] The issue is that I can't understand any of the jargon given to me from Miraheze or Fandom about portable infoboxes. [01:11:01] That's clearly Spanish [01:11:20] anyhow, I'll revert the auth changes as Wiki-Bot isn't acting right [01:11:48] <7101334, replying to 7101334> @Discord Moderators? Been trying to access this server for 2 hours now. [01:11:49] checkmate liberal [01:11:49] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1197709931835559936/wDky2Ho.png?ex=65bc414c&is=65a9cc4c&hm=4cd8d2f8c49aab5dbe161a4aaf89cc3667f3140d648862cad7da52b1e8f56f8f& [01:11:50] no need to ping [01:12:00] <7101334> Well no one is replying and I'm fresh out of patience [01:12:11] You already have the heavyweights here [01:12:21] <7101334> not heavy enough to manually verify ig [01:12:34] Oh I can see it now [01:12:37] I'll tell ya now, my cat will be more help then GPT for this stuff [01:12:41] and I don't have a cat [01:13:01] <7101334> Well at least I'll figure that out in less than 2 hours if so [01:13:03] Alright so [01:13:07] Heres whats gonna happen [01:13:12] Youre gonna calm down [01:13:17] <7101334> lmao [01:13:22] <7101334> patronizing and useless [01:13:28] Ok so hard way [01:13:30] <7101334> what a combo [01:13:39] Enjoy the timeout [01:14:01] anyway, channels should be visible once more until Wiki-Bot doesn't act up [01:14:04] Bro, we'd love to help, but no one is gonna assist if you keep being rude [01:14:48] Am I the only person who notices how inconsist #mod-logs is? [01:15:02] yes, it's not very reliable [01:15:07] It didn't log the MWTSV role [01:15:15] It works most of the time [01:15:21] or the timeout [01:15:27] Timeouts arent logged [01:15:29] Okay I got that thread going, thanks for the help! [01:15:32] or channel perms changes(idk if thats intended) [01:15:37] @agentisai is a current agenda set for tomorrow's meeting? [01:15:48] Permissions changes are not logged [01:15:52] tis been 7 months since last meeting [01:16:00] Meetings have never really had a formal agenda to begin with [01:16:12] Anyone was always free to interject any topic [01:16:19] true [01:16:42] how long is it open? [01:16:57] usually a few hours [01:17:09] 3 hours [01:17:15] 5 [01:17:17] see DMs (know I've said this now twice so apologies, don't know if my messages are sending properly? sorry again haha) [01:17:28] 2-3? that's how it used to be [01:17:29] normally when I not on discord [01:17:44] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1197711457660440616/qVAemei.png?ex=65bc42b7&is=65a9cdb7&hm=27491f5681901424ccf1a25ad2f0e5a4b942352e76ccfaa8843d97b28a1a21fd& [01:17:54] like thats stopping me [01:45:46] Question; how long is indexing supposed to take once I submit the sitemap and stuff to google? [02:00:28] It can take anywhere from a few hours to a few days [02:06:50] i'd go to the media thing if it wasn't at 11 am 😭 [02:06:58] the downside of living in EST i fear [02:09:29] EST Superiority [02:12:15] sadly not in this case [02:12:18] i had a few questions but i'll prob wait till the next one [02:29:43] I love using the Infobox builder and making an entire set of 10 sections only to realize I forgot something near the top [02:30:27] last one was uh 7 months ago! so uh [02:30:59] source editing superiority [02:31:37] Using a basic beginner's creator to see how everything is used in the source just made everything make sense [02:32:31] how can I provoke a wiki's Unused Files page into updating? I know the current cache is outdated, but I don't know how much by [02:34:13] smart [02:34:44] hm, try adding `?action=purge` to the end of the URL? [02:46:17] no joy, cache remains the same [02:46:32] hm [02:46:38] prob server side [02:48:28] Yeah, things are gonna be unfortunately slow until the transition is complete, the server hardware is holding in there but showing it's age [02:57:34] [1/2] what is this? it just appeared on our logs [02:57:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1197736580442493019/image.png?ex=65bc5a1d&is=65a9e51d&hm=b28aa5d024ab6b21e0c059f9f7ae21e438336646d7d0e1e41508905f21ab5e37& [03:01:26] It's caused by SocialProfile [03:11:49] alr, just been getting a bit nervous that I did something wrong lol, been 3 days since I submitted it [03:15:40] oh thank you, that makes sense XD [03:23:25] No worries, it took me nearly 10 days, but that's an extreme outlier [03:26:58] wait IRC folks: is Reception123 a GC? [03:27:09] believe @rhinosf1 had looked into it - still listed on Meta so wasn't sure [03:27:18] they do notify [03:27:48] oh cool [07:17:45] How do I set a default theme for all users? [07:25:49] [1/2] first enable skin in Extensions -> Skins [07:25:49] [2/2] then go to Additional settings -> Styling, the first setting is default skin [07:28:00] I only wanted to change the deafult theme to vector-legacy (which is just legacy in the combo bar) so I guess I don't have to enable anything in Extensions [07:28:24] I changed the default theme, but still no change in incognito view, I assume you have to wait for it to update like for the favicon and logo? [07:49:43] are you sure you saved changes? [07:49:58] but it might take some time [08:18:51] The GCs are now publicly listed in ChanServ [09:40:33] 8) guess who got the covid. Fml lol [09:41:27] In addition to what rhinos said the quick answer to your question is yes. Me, reception, and macfan are group contacts for #miraheze [09:43:16] > 4:42:42 AM The #miraheze namespace is registered to the WikiTide project [09:43:17] Oh [09:43:19] lol [09:44:01] This is apparently not entirely true, since the merger apparently some of the contacts are unlisted again. [09:48:26] Oh [09:48:35] Public contacts: CosmicAlpha, Agent, Reception123 | Unlisted contacts: Nibbly, MacFan4000 [09:50:33] I sent an email asking for us both the be public again since we were before the switch lol [09:52:04] Yep thanks [09:56:17] i should sleep now [13:15:17] How do I register a custom namespace? [13:27:17] Do I have way to check number of wiki access? [13:33:10] Pardon? [13:35:10] I want to check "How many times is my wiki being accessed?". [13:35:55] Oh, well one good way is google search console [13:36:21] [1/2] Example [13:36:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1197897338459521094/image0.jpg?ex=65bcefd5&is=65aa7ad5&hm=b58d6d027a16bf8a8aba45f5e2dd4a194e9ce89cb1189de3d5a349abace6ddb3& [13:36:31] There’s also an on wiki page [13:37:09] [[Special:Analytics]] [13:37:09] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Analytics [13:37:10] [13:37:15] On your wiki [13:37:30] It’s not super easy to read unfortunately [13:37:36] One of the few things fandom does better [13:38:32] It counts only access from google search. I want to get all the number of accesses. [13:38:33] lol [13:38:42] Analytics page [14:01:32] submit sitemaps in other search engines lol [14:01:41] bing, yandex ... [14:06:24] i don't think its much use [14:06:24] See https://radar.cloudflare.com/reports/search-engine-market-share-2023-q3 [14:07:51] ikr [14:08:15] I tried to set up yandex console tho, it's trash lol [14:31:41] Ah got it [14:38:00] dit matomo analytics get reset? [14:48:07] yes [14:49:50] oh? [14:49:50] https://tenor.com/view/agony-gif-23084585 [14:50:05] it's on a new server [14:51:16] will the old ones be restored? [15:02:25] no [15:31:21] 504 gateway timeout on Meta? [15:37:25] I've experienced a few 502s today, but nothing too bad [15:42:05] everything has been extremely slow this morning, but i've only seen one 502 so far [16:02:41] @agentisai meetin time? [16:03:27] yse [16:03:42] where? [16:05:11] Did Miraheze and WikiTide merge [16:06:15] They're still in the process of merging [16:06:26] Ok ✅ [16:17:11] #meeting doesn't exist for me [16:17:16] do I need to verify? [16:18:13] yes [16:18:21] type `/auth` [16:18:47] Done [16:18:48] thank you [17:34:07] popups has never worked on my wiki and i don't know why [17:34:40] [1/3] `$wgPopupsReferencePreviewsBetaFeature` is `false` [17:34:41] [2/3] `$wgPopupsOptInDefaultState` is `1` [17:34:41] [3/3] `wmgShowPopupsByDefault` is `true` [18:18:03] need a reminder how to access centralauth page [18:18:16] Special:CentralAuth/username [18:28:26] thamks [18:48:01] is there any specific reason why usernames have to have a capitalized first letter? [18:48:22] for mira at least [18:48:51] Enforced capitalization of page titles, IIRC [18:51:12] It's an automatic feature of MediaWiki [18:52:02] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T28396 [18:52:44] window 5 [18:52:46] oops [18:53:44] /msg NickServ identify hunter2 [18:54:00] what? I only see ******* [18:54:16] I dont think normal commands work via discord [18:54:32] with the prefix [18:54:43] https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/002/053/464/97d.png [18:54:59] ? [18:55:17] `hunter2` is a joke \:P [18:55:25] I didn't mean to login with NickServ [18:56:16] <_______________________________d> https://backrooms.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Backrooms:Image_Policy [18:56:20] <_______________________________d> Did I do good here? [18:56:29] <_______________________________d> Is there anything I should remove? [19:02:09] Hm, `standard 1080p monitor in full-screen at default zoom` seems needless specific [19:02:23] I'd recommend using something like the Spoiler extension [19:49:40] is there a channel to ask for help or can i ask questions here? [19:49:53] here or #support [19:50:10] ima ask here [19:51:09] is there a way to make something transparent? [19:51:16] Define something [19:51:22] can i dm you? [19:52:12] It would be better to make a support thread, so others can help [19:52:28] DMing is normally not a good way for support stuff [19:52:36] aight ima make a post [20:03:08] [1/4] i think this is a bug: [20:03:08] [2/4] https://tuscriaturas.miraheze.org/wiki/Archivo:Yegua_del_Viento_por_Dianabolique.png [20:03:08] [3/4] doesn't show the original description: [20:03:08] [4/4] https://intercriaturas.miraheze.org/wiki/Archivo:Yegua_del_Viento_por_Dianabolique.png [20:03:44] maybe is because at the time the image was uploaded in intercriaturas that wiki was set at English and now I think is set at espanish [20:23:16] this is why I avoid using IRC [20:23:23] I don't trust the process of entering the password [20:51:22] ahh, i see [20:51:56] I think it's disableable in LocalSettings.php, not sure if its in MW [20:59:34] You can use methods for auth that can guarantee your password can't leak in that way [20:59:50] Capital letter at start can ye [21:00:28] gn fellas [21:06:09] is tailwind a bad idea for creating my wiki's home page? [21:06:58] i was just going to copy the generated css to Common.css but that's prob not very efficient [21:25:58] how the fuck do you use tailwind for wiki css [21:25:58] tailwind is line styles for HTML elements [21:26:02] ik [21:26:12] tailwind provides an output.css file [21:26:47] oh [21:27:37] which i can use with [[mw:Extension:CSS]] [21:27:37] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CSS [21:27:38] [22:27:41] I'm getting disappointed [22:28:21] I've tried everything I know now, but nothing works for me to retrieve data from [[d:]] [22:28:21] https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/ [22:28:22] [22:29:24] I've asked on MediaWiki discord, I have added the extensions necessary, still nothing [22:29:43] What so I have to do to make it working? [22:40:06] [1/2] didn't think this through [22:40:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198034151807393872/image.png?ex=65bd6f40&is=65aafa40&hm=8fb7a4d87432196e7103e184a6a96e4f468609e20dbaedefc934a098cbecb495& [22:40:34] (yes i've tried an article too, tailwind uses css classes unsupported by sanitized css) [22:41:52] Ye tbh, I'm not sure why we allow uploading css files [22:42:05] I feel like it being broken is a good thing [22:42:10] lol [22:42:24] idk how star citizen wiki makes their home look so good [22:42:35] well i've looked at the source, it's detailed css [22:42:36] Because intentionally attempting to bypass the sanitizer is against policy anyway [22:42:54] Because you shouldn't be bypassing technical restrictions [22:43:00] oops is that attempting to bypass the sanitizer [22:43:12] it's nothing that's not allowed in Common.css [22:43:25] @bestspyboy then please just add it as a page [22:43:35] just can't be done in the SanitizedCSS contentmodel tho [22:43:38] Can I get a 2O from a @Site Reliability Engineers here? [22:43:43] Why? [22:44:02] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198035165369348146/image.png?ex=65bd7031&is=65aafb31&hm=5c98276c76ece534aa442b7b476ff92309ef7d301ed23f28de2a8cbd84c208fa& [22:44:07] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198035185246154802/image.png?ex=65bd7036&is=65aafb36&hm=08ba1620aa77a2d75a1d36f5992ee31761da780bffbfd5aa1f6979041900a7be& [22:44:11] Okay [22:44:22] Ye I mean the bug is easy to fix [22:44:36] you just might not want to fix it :) [22:44:37] But I don't like the idea of uploading css as a file [22:44:46] it's a bit hacky to be fair [22:44:59] i'll just try manual styling instead of tailwind [22:45:13] css in general is really annoying with mediawiki [22:46:31] Editing CSS pages has some controls [22:46:38] Uploading a css file lacks them [22:47:21] it would be really hard to change [22:47:28] If an SRE is around, they can decide whether they want a task to fix it or just drop allowing css files to be uploaded [22:48:06] Like it's a really easy bug to fix, I'm just not sure what you're trying to do is a good idea [22:48:33] not many of my ideas make it past the practical stage [22:48:42] you'd also want to disallow `.scss` [22:48:57] but how'd you even process that [23:09:57] [1/2] Does anyone know why {{DISPLAYTITLE:}} is working so randomly? [23:09:57] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/DISPLAYTITLE:Template: [23:09:57] [2/2] I added it to my Terminology Navigation, so that those pages flash up as being part of that series. But some are, and some ar not highlighted. [23:10:43] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Navigation_Terminology [23:28:10] hmm even with simple inline styling the CSS extension still isn't working [23:28:14] [23:28:46] i've converted the tailwind styling into plain CSS and attached it inline with the CSS parser function [23:29:19] Is there a way to customize the navbar contents [23:30:01] MediaWiki:Sidebar i think?