[00:00:10] I cannot access your wiki to see, but {{DISPLAYTITLE:}} is a formatting magic word. It cannot change the page title, per se. It only affects how it looks [00:00:10] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/DISPLAYTITLE:Template: [00:00:53] For example, making it display as italics, like for ship names or book titles [00:01:41] Yeah, and though it can do more [00:02:37] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1198048889987682485 [00:03:57] It can highlight cirtain words in a text as keywords. Like I did when I added it t the Navbar. All the pages with that Navbar on, can highlight the links refering to that keyword [00:04:08] certain* [00:09:29] anyone else getting a 502 error on Meta? [00:09:32] been slow lately [00:09:37] unsure if it's just me [00:10:01] I'll look [00:10:23] Seems the issue is with cp34? [00:11:05] No 502's but it's really slow [00:11:39] yeah....going to check icinga [00:12:18] oh wait never mind [00:12:22] guest access is gone [00:13:04] hmmmm [00:13:07] weird though [00:14:51] It's all slow at the moment [00:43:58] still really slow with occasional 502s [00:47:55] 504 now [00:49:45] <.labster> We got 504, can I hear 506, 506, anyone for 506? [00:51:00] 😄 [00:54:31] Need an SRE for that [00:54:51] I can try and raise to a 507 [00:55:36] I’ll bid [00:55:43] What we auctioning? [00:56:57] idk the old servers? [00:58:38] I redact my bid [01:10:06] [1/4] I got word from a guy on Wikimedia that it is impossible to retrieve any data from Wikidata by 3rd parties. [01:10:06] [2/4] Another guy on the same Discord channel stated that you definitely need Wikibase client. [01:10:06] [3/4] Doesn't any one know for certain? [01:10:07] [4/4] So tiresome 😦 [01:20:14] there both high i think [01:20:27] [[wikidata:Project:Data_access]] [01:20:27] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/wikidata:Project:Data_access [01:20:33]

[01:21:23] What server is this? [01:22:30] oh i see oh in the context of nativlely from a wiki they may be rgith [01:23:08] xp [01:23:44] I have been fighting with this sinds december already, You need this, you need that, and the waiting for answers is so slooooww [01:24:52] The reason why I didn't make a database yet on my new wiki, is because it's so painstakenly much work, and keeping it up to date is worse [01:25:23] hm, this may be sacrilegious, but: if its possible to use lua-http, maybe use lua to access the wd api? [01:25:30] And that for a few pages isn't interesting. Hence why I wanted to retrieve it from Wikidata. 😢 [01:26:00] How would I go about that? [01:26:07] I am a LUA Noob [01:26:09] i have no fucking idea [01:26:14] uh [01:26:14] Hahaha [01:26:21] i made a boblox elevator once [01:26:36] and that is....? [01:26:41] roblox [01:26:52] it uses lua for its games [01:27:02] first would need to see if you can use https://daurnimator.github.io/lua-http/0.2/ [01:27:23] thats not how you spell it lmao [01:27:24] I am 50+ so that's more for my 16 year old I guess [01:27:34] Scribunto [01:27:53] im in high school lmao [01:29:00] You could be my kid then 😄 [01:29:42] Okay, but in seriousness. I need to try that code [01:30:12] I'm looking into how lua imports work rn [01:30:22] if its based on file system [01:30:23] uh [01:30:24] fuck [01:30:32] if not [01:30:43] the sacrilege may continue [01:31:25] LOL [01:31:41] These cdes need to go in a module right? [01:31:45] codes* [01:32:10] In the module namespace yeah [01:32:33] yeah looks like its file system based [01:40:12] [1/5] What Wikipedia does is invoking Wikidata by asking for value for Property P18 (images) and then an Item for Q (a image of Commons) [01:40:12] [2/5] But it could just as well be in how many languages (P407) a website is e.g. jw.org (Q21175586) [01:40:12] [3/5] It will then give out that number of languages you ask for. [01:40:12] [4/5] So on a page about that website, You ask for Property 407 and it should give that number. [01:40:13] [5/5] {{#statements:P407|from=Q21175586}} [01:40:13] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23statements:Template:P407 [01:40:42] But as far as I can see... {{#statements:}} isn't installed at Miraheze? [01:40:42] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23statements:Template: [01:41:05] [1/2] Thus I tried using: [01:41:05] [2/2] {{#invoke:WikidataIB |getValue|qid=Q21175586|P407|fwd=ALL |osd=yes |sorted=yes |noicon=true}} [01:41:05] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/%23invoke:Template:WikidataIB_ [01:41:19] As well as {{wikidataOI|property|eid=Q21175586|P407|fetch=true}} [01:41:19] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:wikidataOI [01:41:26] Nothing works [01:43:05] [1/2] It is [01:43:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198080223397285958/HsilstS.png?ex=65bd9a28&is=65ab2528&hm=285e28e93ca3184228c27bd7023be72c2ec0e34f1ecb60956378f0b4cec25ba5& [01:43:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/824597808303702016.webp?size=48&name=eyessus&quality=lossless [01:44:22] I love mediawiki... [01:44:22] Hmm. I tried a search on that in my wiki manager but got nothing [01:44:30] As do I [01:44:57] Have been on and off on Wikipedia since 2010 [01:45:46] I was searching for the extension that uses that, to enable that [01:45:54] hm [01:45:56] But I guess, that it is elsewhere [01:46:09] Well the parser function is on jwmeetings [01:46:18] Okay [01:46:27] But ot working though [01:46:36] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Rodejong/sandbox7 [01:46:48] ..7? [01:47:00] I added that query in 3 fold [01:47:22] Yeah, I like order, [01:47:42] On Danish Wikipedia I had about 20 😄 [01:53:29] you scare me [01:55:16] I love code and gadgets. In stead of notepads, I used Wikipedia's Sandboxes [01:55:59] e.g. Tables, Colors, .js ascii, etc [01:57:18] [1/2] You should see my Dutch Wikipedia : [01:57:18] [2/2] https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciaal:Voorvoegselindex/Gebruiker:Rodejong [01:57:35] Much worse 😄 [01:57:54] But I am Dutch, so I spend most my time on there [01:59:15] Most of it is outdated though. But I leave it there for history [02:12:44] -- My brain just melted from this page https://daurnimator.github.io/lua-http/0.2/#http.request 😮 [02:18:57] [1/9] If I want to pull data from a normal website, so not Wikidata, how would I do that? [02:18:57] [2/9] local http_request = require "http.request" [02:18:58] [3/9] local headers, stream = assert(http_request.new_from_uri("http://example.com"):go()) [02:18:58] [4/9] local body = assert(stream:get_body_as_string()) [02:18:58] [5/9] if headers:get ":status" ~= "200" then [02:18:59] [6/9] error(body) [02:18:59] [7/9] end [02:18:59] [8/9] print(body) [02:18:59] [9/9] https://apps.jw.org/api/conventions/convention-congregation-list/XXX?name=Xxxxxxxxxx Where X is the changable value [02:20:36] tbh ive never used lua_http or any lua really, this is just theory [02:20:37] https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/938600030472896552.webp?size=48&name=Kek&quality=lossless [02:20:46] but should be like that [02:20:54] the issue is the require part [02:21:02] if you can load it [02:22:22] https://apps.jw.org/api/conventions/convention-congregation-list/DNK?name=Holb%C3%A6k [02:22:28] Take a look [02:22:48] hm [02:22:54] It spits out code, so for each wiki page, it should be possible right? [02:23:06] I have been doing that Manually [02:23:19] assuming http can be used in scribunto yes it should [02:23:28] Through ChatGPT which puts it in a template [02:23:41] would it actually load though or would it be blocked by the CSP? [02:23:51] theres the question [02:24:04] normally anything api in the JS realm [02:24:07] I don't remember if Lua executes in the browser or on the server [02:24:21] but JS cant spit out wiki text to parse with a function [02:24:22] hmm [02:24:36] server [02:24:53] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Scribunto#Lua_environment [02:25:14] I wonder if http.request will even run [02:25:27] that Lua code makes me think it might not run with Scribunto [02:25:39] thank you discord for fixing a bug and making all mediawiki users' lives 3 times worse [02:25:56] ngl same [02:25:56] lol [02:26:09] lua imports seem to work like python [02:26:16] files on the local system [02:26:34] so idk if you would be able to load it [02:26:51] if your really bat shit maybe import http as well [02:26:57] but it may be written in c [02:27:38] [1/2] also [02:27:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198091436575440926/Hst4GwT.png?ex=65bda499&is=65ab2f99&hm=66600060f7bb3538352d3e0ee6ffd11bb99f5efac0a98e10276118cd193dea56& [02:28:01] [1/2] also [02:28:02] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198091535414198374/xtS89X0.png?ex=65bda4b1&is=65ab2fb1&hm=d7023ddbddb1ef2130b28e77b8ab0a183b4dc3d6a7d0996acbbd972d2c09bf76& [02:29:02] back to the planning board [02:29:39] Now for this, I do believe ExternalData would be what you're looking for [02:29:46] That is activated [02:30:17] [1/14] ChatGPT gives me this: [02:30:17] [2/14] -- Module:JWApi [02:30:17] [3/14] local p = {} [02:30:18] [4/14] local http_request = require "http.request" [02:30:18] [5/14] function p.fetchJWData(conventionId, name) [02:30:18] [6/14] local apiUrl = "https://apps.jw.org/api/conventions/convention-congregation-list/" .. countryId .. "?name=" .. name [02:30:19] [7/14] local headers, stream = assert(http_request.new_from_uri(apiUrl):go()) [02:30:19] [8/14] local body = assert(stream:get_body_as_string()) [02:30:19] [9/14] if headers:get(":status") ~= "200" then [02:30:20] [10/14] error(body) [02:30:20] [11/14] end [02:30:21] [12/14] return body [02:30:21] [13/14] end [02:30:22] [14/14] return p [02:30:36] its gpt [02:30:46] it knows the syntax well enough [02:30:57] but prob not the limitations of Scributno [02:31:19] hmmm [02:31:45] from who Izno said, lua wont work for apis [02:31:47] https://tenor.com/view/agony-gif-23084585 [02:32:15] despair [02:37:45] 😢 [02:58:40] [1/2] I give up. [02:58:40] [2/2] Keep doing it manually then [03:06:19] [1/2] What method allows a template replace all instances of a character in a parameter input? [03:06:19] [2/2] (i.e. Template:Foo, `{{{param|}}}`; on a page, `{{{Foo | param = test string ok 123}}}`. The template changes `test string ok 123` to `test-string-ok-123`) [03:06:19] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bparam [03:22:53] ? [04:28:31] Ooh, might be what I need, thank you very much [04:30:17] Yees, exactly what I needed, thanks again [05:33:20] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198138168864682044/Screenshot_20240120_133258.jpg?ex=65bdd01f&is=65ab5b1f&hm=5adc3db03461c302257d62c5c55d63c4e06f828fa8ced2b12cd7e290a03676d4& [05:33:30] How do I edit this part of the wiki [05:36:07] depends on how exactly you want to change it [06:09:29] <.labster, replying to herrperson> Various different system messages in the Mediawiki namespace [06:15:06] what about this [07:13:08] I just want to add more text and links [07:17:49] that would be JS [07:37:48] Use ?uselang=qqx to see what the messages are then they can be edited in MediaWiki:, or to add more links you can either use JavaScript or file a task on phabricator.miraheze.org and we can do it with hooks probably (depends on what you want) [07:40:28] [1/4] this is what I had to add a Contact link [07:40:28] [2/4] `$.when( mw.loader.using( [ 'mediawiki.util' ] ), $.ready ).then( function () { [07:40:29] [3/4] mw.util.addPortletLink( 'footer-list', 'https://softcell.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Contact', 'Contact Us' ); [07:40:29] [4/4] } );` [07:40:55] (I don't have it now cus the Contact extension now offers setting) [07:41:33] Yeah that'd work but if we do it with hooks it wouldn't rely on JS to be enabled, it would also show on restricted special pages, and would be instantly displayed without that JS delay that sometimes happens. [07:42:13] The extension doesn't offer it, a hook we have does it, that is just enableable in ManageWiki. [07:42:45]