[00:02:07] So when I create the template using portable infobox, how do I actually change the information in the box on a specific page? [00:02:17] Like how do I edit the data2 value [00:02:26] or add a specific image as opposed to the default. [00:02:45] In the source it just says {{test}} (I named the template test) [00:02:45] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:test [00:02:46] [00:03:45] When I left click the template I just get a popup [00:03:59] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198417672703058030/IMG_0712.jpg?ex=65bed46e&is=65ac5f6e&hm=ff4c7b7906a54fa4fb061301b66f6c5a7b0dd3d0d6be27b0c500394e1a7ebd25& [00:04:38] Also is this the right place for this? Want to make sure I’m not flooding with the wrong stuff [00:06:01] [1/7] You make something like this [00:06:01] [2/7] {{template name [00:06:01] [3/7] |data1 value = [00:06:02] [4/7] |data2 value = [00:06:02] [5/7] |data3 value = [00:06:02] [6/7] |etc.. [00:06:03] [7/7] }} [00:06:49] [1/2] When it's quiet, it's not that wrong [00:06:50] [2/2] Otherwise open a thread under Support and choose the appropriate tag [00:08:10] ahhhh holy crap I got it to say what I want 😂 one small step for man :WICKED: [00:08:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198418800241021008/IMG_0713.jpg?ex=65bed57b&is=65ac607b&hm=306a63be11db86a5937e9daf82faea51c549f6d6d466161c225da9da80a0a55d& [00:09:00] 🥳 [00:09:14] It might be worth looking up some info on CSS formatting. My housemate is a software engineer though so could probably ask him for help [00:11:30] [1/2] So for this, what is the point of having a label section and default section? I tried doing Label = Potato in the source part but nothing changed. [00:11:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198419563801477241/IMG_0714.jpg?ex=65bed631&is=65ac6131&hm=50e84c2f0164d146e23332fdfbe5f910fc4d22a88ac70b132c9225f91bbc9300& [00:12:19] I guess I just don’t know how to format it for a specific page since these are meant to be generic templates to fill in page specific data. [00:12:26] Idk how I’d change the image either [00:13:17] It's easier to do it like this: https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_building?action=edit [00:13:37] That's how I make it, Just use tables [00:14:36] [1/28] {| [00:14:36] [2/28] ! colspan="2" style="background-color:#517398; color:white;" | General data [00:14:36] [3/28] |-valign="top" [00:14:37] [4/28] | style="text-align:top; background-color:Lightgrey; width:200px;" | Place of Worship: [00:14:37] [5/28] | style="text-align:top; background-color:Lightgrey; width:200px;" | {{{building|}}} [00:14:37] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bbuilding [00:14:37] [6/28] |-valign="top" [00:14:38] [7/28] | style="text-align:top; background-color:#DCEAEA; width:200px;" | Used by: [00:14:38] [8/28] | style="text-align:top; background-color:#DCEAEA; width:200px;" | {{{congregation|}}} [00:14:38] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bcongregation [00:14:38] [9/28] |-valign="top" [00:14:39] [10/28] | style="text-align:top; background-color:Lightgrey; width:200px;" | midweekMeetingTime: [00:14:39] [11/28] | style="text-align:top; background-color:Lightgrey; width:200px;" | {{{midweekMeetingTime|}}} [00:14:39] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bmidweekMeetingTime [00:14:40] [12/28] |-valign="top" [00:14:40] [13/28] | style="text-align:top; background-color:#DCEAEA; width:200px;" | weekendMeetingTime: [00:14:41] [14/28] | style="text-align:top; background-color:#DCEAEA; width:200px;" | {{{weekendMeetingTime|}}} [00:14:41] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bweekendMeetingTime [00:14:41] [15/28] |-valign="top" [00:14:42] [16/28] | style="text-align:top; background-color:Lightgrey; width:200px;" | Address: [00:14:42] [17/28] | style="text-align:top; background-color:Lightgrey; width:200px;" | {{{address|}}} [00:14:42] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7baddress [00:14:43] [18/28] |-valign="top" [00:14:43] [19/28] | style="text-align:top; background-color:#DCEAEA; width:200px;" | Country: [00:14:44] [20/28] | style="text-align:top; background-color:#DCEAEA; width:200px;" | {{{country|}}} [00:14:44] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bcountry [00:14:44] [21/28] |-valign="top" [00:14:45] [22/28] | style="text-align:top; background-color:Lightgrey; width:200px;" | Build in Year: [00:14:45] [23/28] | style="text-align:top; background-color:Lightgrey; width:200px;" | {{{build|}}} [00:14:45] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bbuild [00:14:46] [24/28] |-valign="top" [00:14:46] [25/28] | style="text-align:top; background-color:#DCEAEA; width:200px;" | Dedication date: [00:14:47] [26/28] | style="text-align:top; background-color:#DCEAEA; width:200px;" | {{{dedicated|}}} [00:14:47] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:%7bdedicated [00:14:47] [27/28] |} [00:14:48] [28/28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198420345137405992/message.txt?ex=65bed6eb&is=65ac61eb&hm=d93b138f68c451222ea23751a9b36531ba5aad086a5b2f47084e9247b92f2ddf& [00:15:28] I don't need css, nor a module. Just basic wikitext and css code in 1 template [00:16:01] my brain is going to explode a:thanos: [00:16:08] [1/11] Then I us this [00:16:09] [2/11] {{infobox Building [00:16:09] [3/11] | building = [00:16:09] [4/11] | congregation = [00:16:10] [5/11] | midweekMeetingTime = [00:16:10] [6/11] | weekendMeetingTime = [00:16:10] [7/11] | address = [00:16:11] [8/11] | country = [00:16:11] [9/11] | build = [00:16:11] [10/11] | dedicated = [00:16:12] [11/11] }} [00:16:22] @stroodler you should verify so you have access to the support channel and can post links, if needed. [00:16:37] did I not [00:16:46] Use /auth [00:16:49] For future reference I'm definitely on the lower end of 'knowing current server plans', I intentionally took a step back from sre-type matters post merger [00:17:00] 👍 [00:17:28] If WNB dont work, try #verify [00:17:37] go to #verify [00:17:40] Nappy been goofin [00:17:49] hes old [00:17:59] (no offense to anyone) [00:18:13] Talking about me? [00:18:15] test [00:18:20] I'm 50+ 😄 [00:18:21] hell yeah brother [00:21:25] Did you make that or is that a generic one already made [00:22:02] https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1024751291504791654.gif?size=48&name=shiggy&quality=lossless [00:22:16] Is it possible to make an "open all" button for wiki pages with multiple collapsed sections? To my understanding HideSection allows this but I'm not sure how to enable it. (I'm an admin not a bureaucrat if that matters.) [00:22:53] I have an addiction to this emoji [00:23:06] Only bureaucrat can enable extensions [00:23:15] The extension is already enabled. [00:23:36] I'm just not sure how to get it to do what I want haha [00:23:37] I made it, let's say after an example of same infoboxes from around 2010, when they all were made like that [00:24:02] Look at mw-collapsible and custom classes. [00:24:05] Yes I've been editing wiki's already since then [00:24:28] So when you use the template on another page, it is referencing that template there [00:24:28] Objects that share the same class can be collapsed/expanded all at once. [00:25:10] Yes. {{templatename}} refers to Template:Templatename [00:25:10] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:templatename [00:25:10] [00:25:47] I have an example on one of my wikis for this collapse behavior but am away from keyboard at the moment [00:26:45] Everything in those {} refers to the values in that template. [00:27:00] :headache: [00:27:10] I feel so dumb. Guess it’ll just take time to learn [00:27:28] Trying to see pages that use it so I can see actual examples. [00:27:33] That's how I feel when I see those Modules 😄 [00:28:05] Do you have any templates made with the visual builder? Would be nice to see how the code looks in action [00:29:45] [1/3] No, I never learned to use it. I am stuck in source code. [00:29:46] [2/3] But you could read https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Editing_Wikitext [00:29:46] [3/3] It tells you all the basics of tables, templates, etc. [00:30:15] Should I get my source editor vs visual meme comparison? [00:30:19] Wikibooks is very helpful [00:30:28] I LOVE WIKIBOOKS [00:30:40] Don't you dare 😄 [00:30:49] ooo that’s a great resource, thank you [00:31:02] one of those moments where I wish I knew how to code :grim: [00:31:04] You're welcme [00:32:19] It's basically written for beginners, But even us older ones who have been using it for years, find it helpful when you forget some simple things you haven't used in years (Thos small gray cells get slower) [00:32:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/588766586274316290.webp?size=48&name=blobsad&quality=lossless [00:33:04] I feel old enough already 😄 [00:33:26] Thank you for the directions! They all already have the same class("`wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed`"), so I guess I'd just need a separate element to tell them all to open and close? I'll give the manual a more thorough look in a bit. But if you get around to it I'd love a link to your wiki to see what you did! [00:33:30] https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1017443945833300050.gif?size=48&name=catroll&quality=lossless [00:33:36] dang [00:37:46] For some reason I am suddenly getting a “Not secure” message for AllTheTropes. [00:50:24] [1/2] Something went wrong [00:50:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198429352992460820/image.png?ex=65bedf4f&is=65ac6a4f&hm=dd10c4923eab0add6ba1b56248ac9d408e6ac111cda10568a92fc0240ba17632& [00:51:08] Miraheze just went down AGAIN! And there was a “Not secure” message on AllTheTropes a few minutes beforehand. [00:51:56] It's been doing that on and off all day. [00:52:25] It’s working again, and the “Not secure” error is gone! The “Not secure” must’ve been a sign the server was starting to have issues. [00:56:53] I must say... I haven't had any problems. Must have been afk at the right times I guess 😄 [00:59:55] I didn't realise Owen was still a board director [01:00:51] Fortunately i've only been having trouble when i'm trying to bring pages up rather than edit them. An active bureaucrat was trying to leave comments and getting errors but. Hopefully it's stable again for the moment [01:33:51] Good night everyone. It's past 2:30 am here so I'm off to bed Zzzz [01:43:17] mimimimi [01:59:03] Anyone else getting 504s? [02:52:11] Is WikiForge merging to [02:55:12] Nope [06:14:30] sorry for bringing this back up but i never actually asked you for a link to this (r.e. adding usertags) [06:22:56] [1/6] ``` [06:22:56] [2/6] You can browse previous version of privacy policy in the following links. [06:22:56] [3/6] Privacy Policy (2018-06-04 ~ 2019-12-30) [06:22:56] [4/6] Privacy Policy (2016-12-10 ~ 2018-05-25) [06:22:57] [5/6] ``` [06:22:57] [6/6] Was there a period between May 25 and June 4, 2018, where Miraheze was without a privacy policy? [06:33:53] <.labster> Hmm, that looks like an oversight [06:39:15] On May 25 the policy did change. I think that first link should have its start date as 2018-05-25 [07:24:25] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:RhinosF1/global.js#L-1 [07:24:38] mw.loader.load('//meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:UserInfo.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript'); [07:24:55] That script should display the information you were asking about [07:26:16] thank you very much!! [07:26:50] Example: A steward, sysadmin, and administrator, 7 years 7 months old, with 4,193 edits. Last edited 1 week ago. From Miraheze Meta, Miraheze's central coordination wiki. [07:27:17] That's for a random user on meta what it adds at the top of their userpage [07:37:39] thank you! i will play with this later... [07:37:50] [1/3] in the meantime uhh, does anyone know why this link isnt displaying? [07:37:50] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198531889250697257/image.png?ex=65bf3ece&is=65acc9ce&hm=a9ab424355deebb9d8815dc2c62347ca26c004ace1bff05148ba31e20882c47a& [07:37:51] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198531889510756423/image.png?ex=65bf3ece&is=65acc9ce&hm=a514fc8ae4a83e3b322c8b1cb3c97dd706df0f2e0214031e15b9b2c984d1e2cb& [07:39:37] add a : in front of Category [07:39:43] omg i am so dumb. thank you!! for some reason mediawiki's own url inserter doesnt do that by default [07:40:07] haha np, it happens [07:43:42] A link to a category will add the page to that category. You need the : in front to make it show. I'm not sure if that removes it from the category (check bottom of page). [07:44:03] it does thankfully! [07:44:04] `:` prevents application of category yes [09:40:00] Did Miraheze go offline [09:40:08] yeah its died on cp25 for me [09:40:14] Rip [09:40:34] Oh nvm it went back online for me [09:49:57] It looks like we are having intermittent availability issues [11:34:23] [1/2] What causes the account and language text to be the wrong color? [11:34:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198591419389059132/image.png?ex=65bf763f&is=65ad013f&hm=7752cdafb6a050e81f4a2557d08b537e2540fed236ea60622878e5c4d730944a& [13:46:17] . [13:56:54] hard to tell just like that [14:08:43] [1/2] wuh oh [14:08:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198630257968828587/image.png?ex=65bf9a6a&is=65ad256a&hm=4cdc4081065b0b5616337c4ee51c348b8ad3895cb3444ed4dd35a8e65a3cdee4& [14:08:49] just tried to preview an edit and got this [14:09:16] [1/2] got this trying to edit something else too [14:09:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198630397739814983/image.png?ex=65bf9a8c&is=65ad258c&hm=74351e34cd79512b01308fd9ffdb174296e4b5963bd937c811caa13987fef8e2& [14:09:43] SAME [14:09:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198630540962705408/Screenshot_20240121-210853.png?ex=65bf9aae&is=65ad25ae&hm=f22b133a994498c97d703d9ddc93319cd524106271ea2112de306382beb969a5& [14:10:07] l just edit anti Shelley Bain alliance page in fanonpedia [14:12:03] wait [14:12:16] Is it back [14:12:19] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198631165553287308/Screenshot_20240121-211140.png?ex=65bf9b43&is=65ad2643&hm=dc73865865253d1a8df99cf8300843eccf93af6546ad34d0368c60355c59058e& [14:12:26] It's normal now [14:12:37] Yeah they been finicky [14:12:41] We are moving servers rn [14:12:46] Oh [14:12:50] ok [14:12:55] l gonna edits again [14:15:18] If it’s a big edit, normally good to copy before saving [14:20:36] okay [14:24:01] And yes, I wrote the page same as Wikipedia [14:25:34] https://fanonpedia.miraheze.org/wiki/Anti_Shelley_Bain_Alliance [14:26:00] bro why is there are 4 image [14:26:10] Bugs? [14:26:17] Yes and no [14:26:32] Basically, page images had a bug for, well forever [14:26:38] Oh [14:26:40] But it was hidden by another bug on discord [14:26:51] l gonna try messenger [14:27:06] Discord fixed their bug and revealed the bug on page images [14:28:03] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198635124250640514/Screenshot_20240121-212727.png?ex=65bf9ef3&is=65ad29f3&hm=462e705e441cd92185c3d22e267ce1448be79a5770f8c1d0c6fdce88d51e7dcb& [14:28:20] it's don't bugs when l send a link in messenger (my group) [14:45:28] [1/5] Regarding WikiTide's recent acquisition of Miraheze, [14:45:28] [2/5] 1) Will Miraheze continue to be run in a not for profit fashion? [14:45:29] [3/5] 2) Will WikiTide also be 100% volunteer? [14:45:29] [4/5] 3) Is there any way to easily remove the donation messages from a wiki one is an administrator of? [14:45:29] [5/5] 4) I can't recall the exact phrasing but I understood from my conversation previously with people running WikiTide that they viewed Miraheze's level of community engagement/control as harmful. Will there be any changes based on this? [14:46:23] 1 yes 2 yes [14:46:47] [1/4] * Absolutely, not and forever more [14:46:47] [2/4] * Yes [14:46:48] [3/4] * No [14:46:48] [4/4] * not really no [14:47:04] Actually to one, the WikiTide is a 501(c)(3) legal nonprofit [14:48:18] 3 is actually yes [14:48:25] On your wiki go to Special:ManageWiki/settings [14:48:53] Under notifications there is a check box that says opt out of global notices [14:49:52] “Opt out of global Miraheze notices ($wmgSiteNoticeOptOut)” [14:50:09] plz donate [14:50:43] I already do, I am signed up for a £2 monthly donation. [14:51:13] I'm not going to disable the notices either, I just feel that it is an important point that they can be disabled. [14:51:44] It's a blanket opt out so it may be good to allow for finer control over types of central notices [14:51:54] Yes, that would be nice. [14:52:49] Obviously, I understand that resources are limited but if it could be made possible when you get an opportunity I'd appreciate that. [14:53:00] Thanks, that is all very reasuring. [15:31:36] there's quite big FAQ regarding the merge on Meta [15:54:33] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WikiTide_Foundation/Merger_FAQ [15:56:59] Labster Is the chair? [15:57:04] He is a chair, yes [15:57:18] only one director has a chair? [15:57:27] https://tenor.com/view/chair-gif-25084729 [15:57:29] Yeah, everyone else has to stand up during meetings [15:57:36] Labster^ [15:57:53] I have a standing desk, so it works out okay [15:58:09] Orange_Star: he’s just built different [15:58:22] More specifically he’s built like a chair [15:59:06] @.labster Mr. Labbs can you confirm this is what you look like irl? The chair [16:06:25] It's Laabs [16:07:06] My apologies v-v [18:09:29] [1/3] can someone check this noticeboard entry please [18:09:30] [2/3] [18:09:30] [3/3] can't help w/ it, the least thing we want is to users feel abandoned [18:10:16] we probably need some kind done/not done/etc templates like on SN [18:10:48] [1/2] also this @ SRE [18:10:49] [2/2] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1198259042825551932 [19:02:02] <.labster, replying to pixldev> Of course, I am always the chair at our daily stand-up meeting [19:02:31] This is why we need people to donate: so we can afford more chairs [19:04:06] <.labster> But not too much money, don’t want to turn SRE into lazy boys [19:05:11] I thought we sold your chair? [19:08:32] [1/2] Something always has to go wrong when everything appears to be going right [19:08:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198705707734814831/Screenshot_20240121_130809_Firefox.jpg?ex=65bfe0af&is=65ad6baf&hm=1854b1aecd0c23b4a29adc5841978af3ef237bb7ad1c93a6fd0bde681423119f& [19:22:46] thats human trafficking for he is the chair [20:42:44] where we can see LocalSettings.php again? [20:43:15] On the repo? [20:43:19] where [20:43:21] mw-config iirc [20:43:30] I’ll check [20:43:31] trying to find source of a bug [20:44:33] https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/master/LocalSettings.php [20:44:39] thanks [20:44:39] this guy? [20:44:49] no problem [20:44:52] whats the bug btw [20:44:54] I suppose global setting is like default thing [20:45:27] text extracts fetches image caption, but according to devs figure element is excluded by default already [20:45:48] on my wiki's current settings there's no figure, but problem is evident for other wikis [20:46:00] im noticing another file [20:46:11] https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/blob/master/GlobalSettings.php [20:47:12] yeah, no figure for default [20:47:23] global has nothing on extension [20:47:46] I'm fillimg a task [20:55:55] If it's a variable we need to configure, might not exist yet [20:58:09] [20:58:30] it apparently exists per wikimedia phab already [20:59:29] Ye [20:59:34] We can fix that [21:01:50] I didn't know I needed it but that coincidentally helps me with my own task haha. [21:10:05] <3 your welcome [21:42:49] [1/2] So i managed to make a button that opens multiple collapsed tables in different sections in one page. However in doing so the default expand/collapse buttons disappear and the tables are invisible unless opened with that one button. I managed to work around it by making additional buttons in the table comments, but is there a way to make them display the default way and have the [21:42:49] [2/2] Expand All button? Or a way to make them display different text when tapped? (I tried `data-collapsetext` and `data-expandtext` and they didn't work, and i tried `mw-collapsible-toggle-placeholder` and that didn't work either. [22:00:36] [1/2] i am so sorry miraheze servers 🙏 [22:00:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198749009687355563/image.png?ex=65c00903&is=65ad9403&hm=2b2d7f0e9e9930eca67429bee84e5aca5d823d68311da6bc666b4f182346a32b& [22:00:57] i only wanted to import [[w:Template:Mbox]] [22:00:57] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Mbox [22:00:58] [22:01:55] i mean it worked though [22:02:07] [1/2] a few minor bugs but nothing major [22:02:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198749391037681714/image.png?ex=65c0095e&is=65ad945e&hm=30356d1d45ec40b51c29da9244b14f38f04494074b215c742967f767282cd340& [22:02:17] He broke the taboo [22:02:26] he imported from Wikipedia [22:02:53] sounds bout right ja [22:08:04] if i import [[w:Template:Ambox]] would it redo everything or just import that because most dependents are there already [22:08:04] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Ambox [22:08:08] [22:12:22] All the Mboxes use the exact same modules [22:12:30] importing was prob not the best idea but too late to start now [22:12:54] what should i do next time [22:12:54] if your gonna go the inefficient route may as well double down [22:12:57] so yes [22:13:03] well depends [22:13:48] If you really want WP’s features set, importing may ne the only option, or there could be better module alternatives. I would personally use a wiki text version like we have on dev wiki [22:13:53] but at this point [22:14:02] import ambox prob [22:14:17] or i could manually delete everything imported 👍 [22:14:25] then do a custom version [22:15:02] all i wanted was a nice little banner on top of a user's page to say if they were an administrator in the game itself 😔 [22:18:20] if only miraheze had [[mw:Extension:DeleteBatch]] i could easily revert my mistakes [22:18:20] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:DeleteBatch [22:18:21] [22:18:31] or completely destroy my wiki by accident [22:19:02] There’s other ways [22:19:02] JavaScript [22:19:02] AutoWikiBrowser [22:19:11] javascript?! [22:19:29] at that point i would not even bother with a module id just use custom table [22:19:35] I have an example if you want [22:19:40] yeah alr [22:19:57] [[mh:nyctocosm:User:PixDeVl/AdminUBX]] [22:19:57] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/nyctocosm:User:PixDeVl/AdminUBX [22:19:57] [22:20:17] change to suite your needs [22:20:29] thanks :) [22:20:55] CC-BY-SA 4 obv [22:24:31] [1/2] Don't think it is supposed to do that: [22:24:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198754984582467614/image.png?ex=65c00e94&is=65ad9994&hm=70752b1b98fa65d3738224211c3669f340b52c9b7bae9a8e28d3b0641e486590& [22:24:55] FUCK IT ALL TO HELL IM SWITCHING IT TO SYSOP [22:25:04] LOL [22:25:17] Now if only the crat box was so easy TO FUCKING ABBREVIATE [22:25:32] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198755285418909816/image.gif?ex=65c00edb&is=65ad99db&hm=65a67e65bba32397ac8663710ae87d1f51152898c195985be107e04f49bc9586& [22:25:35] Please don't yell [22:26:12] And please delete that gif 😮 [22:26:16] me person [22:26:49] My brain is getting flamed up 😮 [22:27:13] Thank you [22:27:37] I have a cprippling shiggy gif problem [22:27:41] nw [22:28:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198756005761257572/image.png?ex=65c00f87&is=65ad9a87&hm=5060b18791d85eca90a197243e647465af532757ed4a7f6599cb1dcdb051b7a5& [22:28:36] [Template fetch failed for https://login.miraheze.org/wiki/User:PixDeVl?action=render: HTTP 0] [22:30:40] Please don't use scary transclude to add stuff to your userpage from loginwiki [22:31:02] They are actual ways for detecting the current wiki that should work [22:31:27] All you will do is make your userpage so much more useless [22:32:30] oh yeah i forgot about that my bad 😅 [22:32:59] I think I wanted to show my global user page with the boxes, this is a much better idea [22:33:20] ill look into how to do that later [22:33:28] Scary transclude doesn't purge cache on edit [22:33:44] It will screw with caching in ways you don't know [22:33:54] Mainly to your disadvantage [22:34:17] got it [22:34:45] I’ll probably just compare {{SITENAME}} to the wikis name [22:34:45] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:SITENAME [22:35:01] or any magic word really, may be able to do on url [22:41:35] can autowikibrowser delete a bunch of pages at once [22:41:52] [1/51] i've got a list of pages like this to be deleted [22:41:53] [2/51] ``` [22:41:53] [3/51] Template:Hlist/styles.css [22:41:53] [4/51] Template:Mbox/doc [22:41:54] [5/51] Template:Mbox templates (small) [22:41:54] [6/51] Template:Cascade-protected template [22:41:54] [7/51] Template:Mbox templates see also [22:41:54] [8/51] Module:Message box/ombox.css [22:41:55] [9/51] Template:Used in system [22:41:55] [10/51] Module:Transclusion count/data/M [22:41:56] [11/51] Template:Lua [22:41:56] [12/51] Module:Lua banner [22:41:57] [13/51] Module:Transclusion count [22:41:57] [14/51] Module:High-use [22:41:58] [15/51] Template:View [22:41:58] [16/51] Template:Tlg [22:41:59] [17/51] Template:Tla [22:41:59] [18/51] Template:Template link with alternate text [22:42:00] [19/51] Template:Template link general [22:42:00] [20/51] Template:Documentation subpage [22:42:01] [21/51] Template:Sandbox other [22:42:01] [22/51] Module:Documentation/styles.css [22:42:02] [23/51] Module:Documentation/config [22:42:02] [24/51] Module:Documentation [22:42:03] [25/51] Template:Documentation [22:42:03] [26/51] Template:Cl [22:42:04] [27/51] Template:Category link [22:42:04] [28/51] Template:Str left [22:42:05] [29/51] Module:Protection banner/config [22:42:05] [30/51] Module:Protection banner [22:42:06] [31/51] Module:Navbar/styles.css [22:42:06] [32/51] Module:Navbar/configuration [22:42:07] [33/51] Module:Navbar [22:42:07] [34/51] Module:File link [22:42:08] [35/51] Module:Effective protection level [22:42:08] [36/51] Module:Effective protection expiry [22:42:09] [37/51] Template:Template other [22:42:09] [38/51] Template:Infobox [22:42:10] [39/51] Module:Template link general [22:42:10] [40/51] Module:TableTools [22:42:11] [41/51] Module:List [22:42:11] [42/51] Module:Infobox/styles.css [22:42:12] [43/51] Module:Infobox [22:42:12] [44/51] Module:String [22:42:13] [45/51] Template:Yesno [22:42:14] [46/51] Module:Message box/configuration [22:42:14] [47/51] Module:Message box [22:42:15] [48/51] Template:Template link [22:42:15] [49/51] Template:Tl [22:42:16] [50/51] Module:Arguments [22:42:16] [51/51] ``` [22:42:38] [1/2] i've got them like this [22:42:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198759588565090464/scratch.txt?ex=65c012dd&is=65ad9ddd&hm=616ec2443b8b339086d13e68ac17efc3f24f3cc324cb5164fba731103ea93c0f& [22:42:53] 99% sure yes [22:43:09] perfect [22:43:10] but also [22:43:16] jimbo christ [22:43:58] Thing im wonder is if awb is picky enough to need wiki links surrounding it, highly doubt [22:44:06] its smart enough to figure it out [22:46:34] hail @raidarr [22:46:40] welcome home [22:47:22] where's the cookies [22:47:30] you explicitly promised cookies if I showed up [22:48:07] @raidarr click "I agree" to the banner at the bottom of Meta that says you agree to cookies [22:48:16] you get two free cookies [22:48:22] oh I see [22:48:38] once you're unlocked and login, you get 15 cookies [22:49:06] fascinating [22:49:57] Welcome back @raidarr [22:50:07] danke [22:54:20] truly intriguing [22:56:29] they're in the browser but delete is greyed out [22:56:37] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198763107812647043/image.png?ex=65c01624&is=65ada124&hm=d8ca54f172caf091d6c87be2b5f4df00d46a62473388800ff68321ca4db2196f& [22:57:56] nvm i was using the bot acc which didn't have sufficient perms [22:58:11] was gonna say id expect it to be a perm issue [23:01:23] So the ban has been reversed? [23:01:40] no, not on-wiki, I was just kidding [23:01:40] not wiki side [23:01:56] Harej has final say on that and he's still investigating [23:02:32] Kidding - that's seems like a very odd comment though from someone in T&S and could be construed as procedurally irregularity [23:02:59] I know all about ts procedural irregularities [23:03:00] To say "when you're unlocked" on a pending investigation outcome while an active member of the team handling it [23:03:06] disclaimer: I was bribed (joke) [23:03:39] I'd advise you cease joking about legal matters [23:04:10] It's unprofessional and unbecoming [23:05:46] I genuinely can't see the issue with that. It's clearly light hearted humour and there's nothing to indicate the comment is in an official capacity. [23:06:03] tbf i thought it was real [23:06:04] it's really not ideal [23:06:12] ill advised for an ongoing case [23:06:45] He's a T&S member joking about an investigation underway in public - official capacity or not - simply holding the position and making such comments can be seen as being an official comment [23:07:43] <.labster> Maybe it’s time for Agent to recuse from this case [23:07:52] I would say unless it comes from an account ending with (Miraheze) then it's not official [23:08:00] That's fair; however, most users here know that Agent likes to joke a lot, so it's not really an issue apart from new members being confused [23:08:05] I'd also think these comments are best made 1:1 at first [23:08:09] that's fair, I was never on the case either way [23:08:25] it's all in the DT&S purview and I'm uninformed entirely on any aspect [23:08:49] It would be far better for individuals to raise individual concerns with the individual [23:09:36] i feel like this is a bad time to ask mediawiki styling questions ngl [23:09:44] Whats up? [23:10:04] the support channel tends to be ideal but that might be a bit backlogged having looked at it [23:10:27] a great portion of things in #support require knowledge most don't have [23:10:29] I was confused regarding the comment, hence why I asked as I didn't see it as a joke [23:10:31] like CSS, etc. [23:10:49] Hm, while I agree it’s obviously light hearted humor I also agree with this [23:11:03] a few seem like they need to be pushed to sre gaze [23:11:17] I didn’t know it was a joke, but also I didn’t have context or know who raidarr was [23:11:18] might be best to send them off to Phab then [23:11:22] Uh, no offence maye [23:11:36] I just have really shit memory [23:11:36] there's been a full 6 months to not know about me [23:11:39] Hello, I'm EmicraftNoob [23:11:46] Lol [23:11:49] almost forever in internet timeline [23:11:57] I also didnt take in the unlocked part [23:12:08] Ello emicraftnoob [23:12:08] Raidarr is a former Steward who was T&S banned due to incidents that happened in June 2023; the new Director of Trust & Safety is currently investigating his case [23:12:36] that is all something I encourage people to broach with me directly if they're particularly interested, I have zero interest in going on about it publicly [23:12:52] I vaguely knew there was a person in a high position who was 1984d, didn’t know much bout who [23:13:08] but yes, I made history as the tsbanned steward [23:13:27] the whole saga could be a few hour long video [23:13:31] All publicity is good publicity they say [23:13:37] I would watch that [23:13:39] might make it an essay or something [23:13:45] I wrote about it partially on wikitide [23:13:57] hello again [23:14:03] hello again [23:14:08] I think I somewhat recall that [23:14:12] yello [23:15:02] side note: do discord messages reply to MHRelay say reply to relay or the irc name [23:15:16] I guarantee, it's not nearly as interesting as to be worth worth a multi-hour sitting. Either way, glad to have Raidarr back to provide counsel to other aspiring wiki admins. [23:15:37] I have all the hot tips how not to get vaporized [23:16:00] If you say someone's IRC name on discord they get a ping on IRC side [23:16:05] You have no idea the shit I spend hours lookingn into [23:16:19] yea, was wonder if it was auto [23:16:27] to be fair, an abridged history of all miraheze drama would be a worthy multi hour video some essayist would pick up [23:18:45] I can’t make videos, but I would enjoy it at least [23:19:18] everyone starts at can't [23:19:33] I can’t be a millionaire [23:19:39] Ok wheres my million dollars [23:19:58] easy [23:20:06] step 1: get a small loan of a million dollares [23:20:10] step 2: ??? [23:20:12] <.labster, replying to pixldev> The Raidarr’s Wiki Massacree in 4 part harmony [23:20:13] step 3: profit [23:20:31] I couldnt afford that downpayment [23:20:35] Or the payment [23:21:04] I am a late addition to the miraheze show [23:21:32] never said everyone gets past it [23:21:32] reception wikis alone would be a whole nother video [23:21:37] Yeah if you want juicy Miraheze drama talk to labster about the origins of Miraheze lol [23:21:46] laaaaaaabster? [23:21:55] our very own lab [23:22:04] I got past, “i cant code” [23:22:24] NOW GETTING PAST “I cant code well” or good or proper or anything like that [23:22:27] theres another issue [23:22:44] Our local board chair [23:22:44] well it's usually not a short journey for sure [23:23:33] I do actually have two small PRs on puppet’s repo [23:24:11] I hacked and slashed around the IRC bot a bit and added a few lines to allow logging from discord [23:24:25] .!log test [23:24:38] doesn't work here [23:24:41] so you're safe [23:24:46] [1/2] here's a thought, phab emoji for the support section [23:24:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198770192570921041/image.png?ex=65c01cbd&is=65ada7bd&hm=edd1d3f5d6cccc528c368c56ea0093c14c3951a95353a4dfcdaedfc7dd791a2a& [23:25:48] <.labster, replying to zppix> I was there 3000 years ago when Dusti stole the silmarili [23:26:24] I knew it was Dusti [23:26:36] my conspiracy theories are vindicated [23:26:40] after almost a decade [23:29:34] [1/2] not identical but the best bet at a quick glance [23:29:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1198771396076113991/icon128x128.png?ex=65c01ddc&is=65ada8dc&hm=f8d203f300faa325774222cb3f3e91a964befcfe75a8f21a278a9f6fdf79d2b6& [23:29:44] Does Miraheze have its own dramatic origin story the way WikiTide has its own dramatic origin story? [23:30:01] <.labster> It’s more dramatic [23:30:01] oh yes [23:30:04] does it count if miraheze was founded on the footsteps of another farm collapsing and its operator stole all its money [23:30:07] 1000x more dramatic [23:30:25] I think I got the summary about right [23:31:36] <.labster> You left out the part where a young child was chosen to secretly carry the data to a new land [23:31:58] [1/2] Orain was founded in 2013 by Dusti and had volunteers like John, SPF, Reception123, NDK, etc., but John and SPF parted ways with Orain in June 2015 and in July 2015 started Miraheze. In August 2015, Orain was "hacked" and redirected all wikis to an adult website and then eventually went offline entirely after a DNS hijack (under suspicious circumstances) and so Miraheze was the nat [23:31:58] [2/2] ural successor [23:31:58] the hole runs deep of course [23:32:29] a Disney Channel Original Movie [23:32:47] Heck, at this point it's getting close to a lifetime original film. [23:32:53] and the predecessor before Orain, TropicalWikis, went offline November 2013 because the owner decided to install Minecraft on the server hosting the server because they were bored [23:32:55] weren't both founders underage at the time [23:32:58] "Wiki for sale: the true story of a sordid affair" [23:32:59] so there ya have it [23:33:15] only SPF I think [23:33:15] ah [23:33:16] I think he was like 13-14? [23:33:30] there was definately a young lad, though not the first/only in our time [23:34:12] most people from that era were toddlers [23:34:28] Reception123 was super young as well [23:34:51] we'll need to ban retroactively for COPPA [23:36:36] <.labster> Damn, I was too slow to register tropicalwikis.com, it expired and someone snatched it up. The origin story of Orain, of course. [23:36:53] TW only formed because CPWN forked from Wikia [23:36:59] so we have Jimbo Wales to blame for everything [23:39:10] The someone was GoDaddy themselves, because of course it was. [23:39:25] quick Q for @serverlessharej - why is your term different than all others? [23:39:41] all others ends Oct. 31 but yours ends Dec. 14 [23:41:03] [1/2] Originally, each board member had a different term end date depending on when they were appointed. The first board had three members, then one member was added on, then another, then two more. Multiple different sets of end dates. At today's meeting we rounded them all up to October 31, which is when we want to have the community board election by. I was appointed in December [23:41:04] [2/2] and you can't remove days from a term. [23:42:10] <.labster, replying to notaracham> Godaddy is literally the worst [23:57:58] Ah - okay [23:57:59] Makes sense [23:58:37] Here's what the list looked like before today's edit https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors/List?oldid=358262 [23:58:45] All over the place as you can see [23:59:10] Ah yes haha [23:59:34] Going forward, will board terms be 2 years and all expiry dates the same?